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So let's talk abortion, from a man's perspective... | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16990338  Canada02/01/2019 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to rain on your parade, but all of this 'my right to do this, my right to do that', is outright crap. Society, and the laws that come with it, have programmed these bullshit beliefs into your head. There is no 'right' to do anything in the real world. Soon people will argue that it is their right to not die. What choice did you have to be born? Why not gather a posse of legals to prosecute your parents for procreating? Quoting: Sutton Coldfield I am completely anti-abortion, but putting a measure of responsibility between men and women, in order to cast blame, is a true snowflake agenda, and it is pure virtue signalling on your behalf. There are some that believe in 'this or that', and there are some that don't believe in 'this or that', but at the end of the day, they are just beliefs*. The trinity of reason says that there are two certainties endowed upon those that walk this earth (birth and death), and a third, being whatever you can squeeze between them, commonly called life. Get some of it, it rocks! *Belief is the state of mind in which a person thinks something to be the case regardless of empirical evidence to prove that something is the case with factual certainty. The responsibility ultimately is on the woman, if we lived in the fucking jungle. We are civilized, even if you aren't. :briefsword: resppnsiblity is on both parents grandparents extended family and the community takes a village to raise a child |
BRIEF
(OP) User ID: 39607259  United States02/01/2019 09:44 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my emission;You need permission Quoting: BRIEF In the day and age of equal rights, why do men NOT have a say when women kill their babies? I know the woman's body is her right, when she is not a host. When a woman spreads her legs for a man, and willingly accepts his seed, whether or not THEY took steps to prevent conception, she then becomes responsible for potential life that is a result. There is no denying this logic At the very least, the man should be given opportunity to take responsibility if the woman doesn't want the child. I'm glad all my children were born and are happy, instead of being murdered by their mother... I AGREE 100%. As a woman and a mother I agree with every bit of what you said. I have gotten cussed out so bad on YouTube for asking what about the father of the child? Why dont men get a say? A woman cannot make a baby all by herself, a man is a part of that creation as well. Men are left out and treated like dogs told to shut up it's my body well you know what I say, stop offering your body to a man without the proper precautions if you dont want kids. Men are necessary and they deserve rights. Women wonder why it's hard to find a guy nowadays well when u treat them like they are idiots and dont include them but you want their child support money of course your ass will be alone. I cant stand this feminazi crap.  As a man we're more then just sperm donors and a child support check. We are fathers in waiting. Does that mean a women should be forced to carry, that's a tough question. Not forced to carry, but not permitted to murder. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77318347  United Kingdom02/01/2019 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my emission;You need permission Quoting: BRIEF In the day and age of equal rights, why do men NOT have a say when women kill their babies? I know the woman's body is her right, when she is not a host. When a woman spreads her legs for a man, and willingly accepts his seed, whether or not THEY took steps to prevent conception, she then becomes responsible for potential life that is a result. There is no denying this logic At the very least, the man should be given opportunity to take responsibility if the woman doesn't want the child. I'm glad all my children were born and are happy, instead of being murdered by their mother... Bottom line is this is mere conversation and will go no further until women and society as a whole are not only convinced by the argument but acknowledge that men have an equal right to the decision making process. I have been through 5 abortions in my youth with various partners holding their hands as they were scraped. Every time a little of me was lost but when you are young you are less moral and more pussy lustful. Thankfully I am now with a wonderful woman that would never allow that to happen and neither would I. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16990338 Canada02/01/2019 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16990338 Canada02/01/2019 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my emission;You need permission Quoting: BRIEF In the day and age of equal rights, why do men NOT have a say when women kill their babies? I know the woman's body is her right, when she is not a host. When a woman spreads her legs for a man, and willingly accepts his seed, whether or not THEY took steps to prevent conception, she then becomes responsible for potential life that is a result. There is no denying this logic At the very least, the man should be given opportunity to take responsibility if the woman doesn't want the child. I'm glad all my children were born and are happy, instead of being murdered by their mother... Bottom line is this is mere conversation and will go no further until women and society as a whole are not only convinced by the argument but acknowledge that men have an equal right to the decision making process. I have been through 5 abortions in my youth with various partners holding their hands as they were scraped. Every time a little of me was lost but when you are young you are less moral and more pussy lustful. Thankfully I am now with a wonderful woman that would never allow that to happen and neither would I. not just women but fathers fathers need to start talking and standing up for their children I hear all this talk about the mom what about the dad? It is his child too |
| BRIEF
(OP) User ID: 39607259 United States02/01/2019 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my emission;You need permission Quoting: BRIEF In the day and age of equal rights, why do men NOT have a say when women kill their babies? I know the woman's body is her right, when she is not a host. When a woman spreads her legs for a man, and willingly accepts his seed, whether or not THEY took steps to prevent conception, she then becomes responsible for potential life that is a result. There is no denying this logic At the very least, the man should be given opportunity to take responsibility if the woman doesn't want the child. I'm glad all my children were born and are happy, instead of being murdered by their mother... Bottom line is this is mere conversation and will go no further until women and society as a whole are not only convinced by the argument but acknowledge that men have an equal right to the decision making process. I have been through 5 abortions in my youth with various partners holding their hands as they were scraped. Every time a little of me was lost but when you are young you are less moral and more pussy lustful. Thankfully I am now with a wonderful woman that would never allow that to happen and neither would I. Conversations are where ideas become reality... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| Sutton Coldfield
User ID: 47454620  Australia02/01/2019 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to rain on your parade, but all of this 'my right to do this, my right to do that', is outright crap. Society, and the laws that come with it, have programmed these bullshit beliefs into your head. There is no 'right' to do anything in the real world. Soon people will argue that it is their right to not die. What choice did you have to be born? Why not gather a posse of legals to prosecute your parents for procreating? Quoting: Sutton Coldfield I am completely anti-abortion, but putting a measure of responsibility between men and women, in order to cast blame, is a true snowflake agenda, and it is pure virtue signalling on your behalf. There are some that believe in 'this or that', and there are some that don't believe in 'this or that', but at the end of the day, they are just beliefs*. The trinity of reason says that there are two certainties endowed upon those that walk this earth (birth and death), and a third, being whatever you can squeeze between them, commonly called life. Get some of it, it rocks! *Belief is the state of mind in which a person thinks something to be the case regardless of empirical evidence to prove that something is the case with factual certainty. The responsibility ultimately is on the woman, if we lived in the fucking jungle. We are civilized, even if you aren't. :briefsword: You live in the jungle, you just don't want to accept/realise it. |
| Bush Master
User ID: 74652254 United States02/01/2019 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's bs. I think they probably get around that by saying the baby is not a baby until it's out of the mother. As long as there's no law saying a fetus is a human being, they get away with it. I think fathers or potential fathers should have to be notified. My sister's husband was married to someone else years ago. His ex aborted twins and he didn't know till afterwards. He never got another opportunity to be a father. Quoting: Just Some Chick God that's a horrible story. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73027889 United States02/01/2019 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the reptilian vipers want abortion not only when a heartbeat is heard, but now they want it done all the way into the 3rd trimester and even upon BIRTH? Tell me, if a woman was raped then WTF would she wait till the 3rd trimester or BIRTH to abort (slaughter) the child? Even if the woman weren't raped, but enjoyed every last little pleasure in and out scream with legs and uterus wide the fuck open, then WTF would she wait till the first heartbeat, the second heartbeat, the third heartbeat or the heartbeat upon birth to have the child stabbed in the head, legs and arms ripped off and sucked into an igloo cooler packed in ice and heartlessly hear the tiny screams of that baby as its first and only breath is taken away while it's very blood-life is washed down the drain of the murderer's kill gurney? Tell me these things. Does the staff on duty say chants and evil prayers of thanks to their god satan, or appolyon or moloch? How does such evil sleep at night? Or do they? Maybe they sleep during the day and do their wicked deeds at night. Mothers (and some fathers) how can you call yourself human when YOU PAY these people money to do these things to your very own tiny flesh and blood? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16990338 Canada02/01/2019 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By this same logic (which is completely reasonable) shall we also consider the possibility that if the woman has the right to abort a child because of financial burden; does that likeeise give men the right to kill the pregnant woman because he can afford either the woman or the child? Quoting: Chip  neither is correct same concept I dont understand why this is even being considered....this is infanticide Abomination of desolation |
| kristym
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| cosmicgypsy
User ID: 74619032 United States02/01/2019 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my emission;You need permission Quoting: BRIEF In the day and age of equal rights, why do men NOT have a say when women kill their babies? I know the woman's body is her right, when she is not a host. When a woman spreads her legs for a man, and willingly accepts his seed, whether or not THEY took steps to prevent conception, she then becomes responsible for potential life that is a result. There is no denying this logic At the very least, the man should be given opportunity to take responsibility if the woman doesn't want the child. I'm glad all my children were born and are happy, instead of being murdered by their mother... I've been saying this for over 20 years, the first time in an Women's Studies college class. That didn't go well....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Rachael123
User ID: 76881693 United States02/01/2019 10:25 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sad fact is most men don't know their child was aborted until it was done.I know of an activist priest.He was dating a girl before priesthood and then broke up with her.She told him years later that she found out she was pregnant but never told him.She went for an abortion and aborted twins,a boy and a girl.Broke his heart so he joined Priests for Life.He does daily facebook talks,is on EWTN and prayers outside of abortion chambers. |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 02/01/2019 10:33 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok If YOU decided to have drunk sex with a man And he impregnated you without your knowledge And he was drunk too... but did it on purpose Is getting an abortion reasonable? And should the man have any say on whether or not you should have the child? Yes. He has every right to input on the matter. In the case of drunk sex, he probably does not want to have a child with this woman ... but ... he has the right to have a word in whether his child lives, or dies. They had the right to choose to choose not to have drunk sex. I have been really drunk at times, and have only had drunk sex with Mr. LJS. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A  |
| Forever.the.Student
User ID: 28441220 United States02/01/2019 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's bs. I think they probably get around that by saying the baby is not a baby until it's out of the mother. As long as there's no law saying a fetus is a human being, they get away with it. I think fathers or potential fathers should have to be notified. My sister's husband was married to someone else years ago. His ex aborted twins and he didn't know till afterwards. He never got another opportunity to be a father. Quoting: Just Some Chick Government as a moral compass... This idea is flawed from the get-go.  "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
| Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 02/01/2019 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok If YOU decided to have drunk sex with a man And he impregnated you without your knowledge And he was drunk too... but did it on purpose Is getting an abortion reasonable? And should the man have any say on whether or not you should have the child? too bad dont have drunk sex and if you dont want the child there are others that do If one is prone to drunk sex, birth control is always an option for both. If they are having drunk sex, the guy needs to be wearing a condom anyway. Pregnancy is not the only consequence of drunk sex. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
| titanbrian
User ID: 77094129 United States02/01/2019 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if the man slips his seed into her without her knowing? Quoting: Trump 20-every Can she then abort it? Rape always comes up. The responsibility a woman has, as a host, is like any other in life, it's simply a reality. Murder is always wrong Killing in self-defense is reasonable I don't understand this whole, what about rape claims Rape is a crime. You report it. Go to the hospital, get the rape kit done for court, then a D&C is done to prevent pregnancy, or a morning after pill which is not invasive but works on the hormones to trick the body into thinking it's pregnant when it's not. so it won't trigger pregnancy from the rape. (Not abortive) I thought that was standard operating procedure for a rape victim. |
| Interferon
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| tiger1
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| Truth Reaper
User ID: 75955494 United States02/01/2019 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Killing babies is wrong any way you slice it. The father should have a say in it unless he was a rapist. Last Edited by Truth Reaper on 02/01/2019 10:57 AM I lost my apathy. |
| Forever.the.Student
User ID: 28441220 United States02/01/2019 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rape baby here... The Dad should always have a choice to raise the child. My Birth Mom toughed it out at a time when women were scorned for being pregnant out of wedlock... to say nothing about having a rape baby. She had to hide in her bedroom in her folks house for 9 months, just to have me, as her folks were very ashamed. If she could walk the walk with a rape baby... i find it tough to understand what the issue is with any out of wedlock pregnancy, and giving Dad a choice in the matter. "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
| ~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States02/01/2019 10:54 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok If YOU decided to have drunk sex with a man And he impregnated you without your knowledge And he was drunk too... but did it on purpose Is getting an abortion reasonable? And should the man have any say on whether or not you should have the child? If you’re a woman who partakes in drunken sex you better take birth control It’s not without your knowledge, if you are having sex pregnancy is and can be a result of sex, drunk or not Personally, I think both parents should have a say on the baby they created There are consequences for our actions, if your too immature to live with them you better change your lifestyle to prevent it from happening ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
| Truth Reaper
User ID: 75955494 United States02/01/2019 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rape baby here... Quoting: Forever.the.Student The Dad should always have a choice to raise the child. My Birth Mom toughed it out at a time when women were scorned for being pregnant out of wedlock... to say nothing about having a rape baby. She had to hide in her bedroom in her folks house for 9 months, just to have me, as her folks were very ashamed. If she could walk the walk with a rape baby... i find it tough to understand what the issue is with any out of wedlock pregnancy, and giving Dad a choice in the matter. Then there are mothers who become enraged when they see their baby every minute of the day. They relive the rape and it's not fair to either of them. The rapist should be castrated and hung. Your mother should be sainted for doing what she did but most wouldn't. Last Edited by Truth Reaper on 02/01/2019 11:01 AM I lost my apathy. |
| Elegant Walnut
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| 7..X.LePsihoLog
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| BRIEF
(OP) User ID: 39607259 United States02/01/2019 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By this same logic (which is completely reasonable) shall we also consider the possibility that if the woman has the right to abort a child because of financial burden; does that likeeise give men the right to kill the pregnant woman because he can afford either the woman or the child? Quoting: Chip No, both are murder. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| Forever.the.Student
User ID: 28441220 United States02/01/2019 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if the man slips his seed into her without her knowing? Quoting: Trump 20-every Can she then abort it? Why punish the baby for the crime of the father? Killing babies is wrong anyway you slice it. The father should have a say in it unless he was a rapist. Quoting: Truth Reaper This is a really tough call... Would i choose being with a potentially abusive (or at the very least deviant) father over death? Hard tellin' not knowin'... "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
| Sutton Coldfield
User ID: 47454620 Australia02/01/2019 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's bs. I think they probably get around that by saying the baby is not a baby until it's out of the mother. As long as there's no law saying a fetus is a human being, they get away with it. I think fathers or potential fathers should have to be notified. My sister's husband was married to someone else years ago. His ex aborted twins and he didn't know till afterwards. He never got another opportunity to be a father. Quoting: Just Some Chick Government as a moral compass?... This idea is flawed from the get-go. Precisely. People incorrectly treat the lawmakers as the benevolent big brother that preaches the proper virtues and vices to the flock of sheep. Society put this idea in your head that you are owed privileges, due to your existence. It is a load of BS, you are here right now, nothing more, nothing less. Get out of your paranoid little shelter and deal with reality. |
| rosicrucian1
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