Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116

Did I miss the AF paper? Is there a link? I’d like to read it thanks.

Yes it's back on pg 106 I think, I'll find it.

Sage advice. Thanks

here you go.

Perfect thank you

your welcome.

Kristi Leigh from [link to www.kristileightv.com (secure)] and Counter Narrative invited me on her show to discuss the 2024 planetary magnetic anomaly, the 2025 space debris event and how some in power know these cycles are returning and are focused on retaining power on the back side of these civilization changing events.


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I think TPTB are not fully aware of how bad things will be, once they come up from their D.U.M.B.s they are going to find the truly most violent people left on earth, and they won't be taking any orders from anyone.

i read Douglas Vogt's books and they were very interesting and informative and i will read your thread

i wonder what the Highest Lord God is doing with so many migrations and exoduses and why...

i heard from Christ around 2014ish - this is a very important time for everyone

we can't help those that don't want change, but we can help those that love change and still have an opened mind

I feel this is a very important time also, I think this is why so many souls are alive today, to experience an event that only happens every 12,000 years.

If it is true that there is a 12,000 year disaster cycle, then how did the dinosaurs survive it to thrive on earth for millions & millions of years?

Cyclical pole shift is not an ELE for all life, thus there would be none.

Also, consider who you are believing re: dinosaurs, history, and time. Priest-class, government, and privately funded academia...

Why would initiated secret holders tell initiated secrets to the uninitiated ever? They wouldn't.

Ben's morning video, with a special paper about India at the end.

Excellent critical thinking question AC.

Per our research much time had passed from the dino's extinction until the first solar micro-nova in our system. The micro-nova cycle first began after the 5th planet in our solar system imploded telling us our solar system was operating just fine until that happened, which explains why the 5th planet civilization had become so advanced over time and unencumbered by any micro-nova in the inner solar system.

We don't believe in a 12,000-year disaster cycle. What happened 12,000 years ago was the abrupt end of our ice age. Younger Dryas can be associated to that time period.

Humanitarianlike!

Um...the "we" and "our" in your post, Humanitarianlike doesn't speak
for the entire group following this thread (host's name
is Storm2Come.) Just thought I would clarify that point.

There are many theories as to what has happened to our
Mother Earth over the eons--I've read that some of the
Planets in this solar system were NOT in the same orbit
as we are seeing them in 2024. You can check the writings
of Immanuel Velikovsky ("Worlds in Collision" for his
ideas about the "arrival of Mercury," etc.) for more
theories.

Here is a link to an older (but well done) BBC documentary
with Velikovsky speaking for himself:

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Nothing is in "stone" where the solar micro-nova is
concerned yet! (That is why they use the word "theory"
when referring to specifics.)


The Oracle's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 03/12/2024 03:14 PM

Thanks for point that out O's, couldn't have put it better myself.

Thanks, Oracle.

Tolerance and open discussion is required.

I just found this--after my computer had a catastrophic
computer crash 2 weeks ago and I LOST MY MATERIALS--UGH!
--that I find very important.


Doug Vogt's playlist for his series 4 presentations on important
points for the "Solar Micro-Nova Theory:"

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

This particular video (the last in Series 4 (Series 4 Part 5H) talks about
why ICE WILL SEAL SHUT MANY OF THE CURRENT DUMB LOCATIONS. You will
want to got to the 23 min mark for the picture of a TOTALLY FROZEN TSUNAMI WAVE
Vogt believes may be what the D.U.M.B folks will be up against at the
actual event:


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FastForward to the 23 min mark for a real "eye popper!"
All of the video is CRITICAL for anyone who embraces the
Vogt materials/books/videos. This presentation was
PUBLISHED 2021-22--R.I.P. Doug Vogt 2023. (This one video
could explain why Vogt was "silenced" IMHO.)

Vogt explains at the 25 min mark WHY the government folks turned against
TRUMP. I think the DUMBS defunding has something to do with it!


The Oracle's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 03/12/2024 03:32 PM

Thanks for the comments O.

Although, I disagree 100% about set in stone. The archaic "stone" megalithic monuments were built specifically to show and tell us about our solar micro-nova cycle.

40 years of research into the monuments tell us that they are books in stone that were designed and built for this very reason. And they do a fantastic job of surviving Earth's Catastrophe Cycle in case we didn't learn what we should have the last time around ;)

Humans have successfully located various celestial bodies in our solar system right where either the Titus-Bode Law says they'd be or where mathematics does (large asteroids [planetoids - minor planets] in the asteroid belt and planet Neptune).

I like Velikovsky but we've learned a lot since his time. IMHO Venus has always been in our solar system and wasn't a wandering planet or comet.
I believe most modern-day astronomers have yet to agree conclusively what happened to planet 5 although the most accepted theory is 'Disruption Theory' - which includes our hypothesis (theory).

This theory states that there was once a major planetary member of our solar system circulating in the present gap between Mars and Jupiter, which was variously destroyed when:
*it veered too close to Jupiter and was torn apart by its powerful gravity
*it was struck by another large celestial body
*it was shattered by some internal catastrophe
*it was destroyed by a hypothetical brown dwarf, the companion star to the Sun, known as Nemesis
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

*to date all the lunar and asteroid mission findings over the last 10 years have been supportive of our theory as it relates to P5 and the asteroid belt.
Fun trivial fact - at Mecca's Grand Mosque, the 'Kaaba', is the "Cube" which houses a black stone asteroid which they walk counter-clockwise around.
This in Arabic is called ‘Tawaf’ or circumambulation. They move together in one direction in a circular fashion to symbolize their belief in and worship of the one true God. Interestingly, the Mosque itself has certain architecture such as the minaret-spires that layout as our solar system as well as 3 domes as Orion's Belt.
They walk in the same direction that the asteroids orbit - counterclockwise. That can't all be a happy accident. Even the organized religions are on to what our great stone monuments reveal. And why not? Humanity has been on this planet a long, long time.

https://imgur.com/8d8uoGt

Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 03/12/2024 05:48 PM

Bens afternoon video.

Interesting to see the solar-system-link and why the
folks at MECCA walk in a circle around the KABBA...but
I seriously doubt that many (except their top elite)
have knowledge of the Solar Micro-nova.

I always wondered why they did the circular walk around
the meteorite Kabba. What a wonderful celebration of
our orbit!


The Oracle's Cookie

All of the stone monuments that we see our history on are less than 12,000 years old, I would like to see a major collection of cave art, from before the last micro nova, its got to be out there sense a lot of those have been dated at 25,000 years ago.

Last Edited by Storm2come on 03/12/2024 06:30 PM

Bump just to keep this video at the end of the thread.

If you will watch the entire last video from Doug Vogt
...we can understand that preparations to address...and
revelation of solar micro-nova information was actually
first circulated DURING THE PRESIDENCY OF RICHARD NIXON!
Vogt goes into painful (it is tough to watch the whole hour
as it is dense with mega-info about the gov. reactions as
early as 1969!) Also...This video from Velikovsky was
published in the 1970's. OF ALL PEOPLE "in-the-loop"
on space events that would face humanity, Velikovsky would
KNOW.


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From Diehold Foundation Doug Vogt (1-2020) talks about
the DUMBs cave shelter program from 1969 thru 2020...with
tidbits on why gov't turned on Trump. Vogt suggests that
govmt knew about the solar micro-nova as early as the
Apollo 11 mission! They've had 50 years to educate the
public and prepare...but well...OR NOT.

This is the video link (1970's BBC Documentary on Immanuel Velikovsky)--so even suggesting the this great scientists
was "old hat" and wouldn't know about what was found on
the moon is really short-changing the guy.

ALSO...THE PAINTINGS OF CARL JUNG (his mentor was Velikovsky)
reflect what he knew about the coming solar disasters...
I did a thread on those paintings even before learning myself
in 2018 about DOUG VOGT'S THEORY.


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Couple of threads on Carl Jung and his association (secret)
with Velikovsky:
Thread: Dr. Carl Jung's "Catastrophe-Art" Meets Velikovski, Vogt, Davidson and the Solar Micro-Nova--Did Jung KNOW?
and
Thread: Big UPDATE pg 7!!Part 2. The "Father of Modern Psychology," Carl Jung Kept Planetary "Doom" Secret for 80 years! Update/Warning se
did several more you can find in the archives.

Check out this Carl Jung painting keeping in mind the
up-to-date solar micro-nova information forwarded to him
from Velikovsky:





The Oracle's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 03/12/2024 06:33 PM

For sure they are "out there" in archeological discovery...
the problem is that OUR CURRENT SYMBOLISM may NOT match
the symbols which cryptic cave paintings used to forward
the information. The artist who created the Bank of America
Mural has done other murals with reference to the cave
drawings and especially putting Greek history in the middle
of that reference. Here is one of his "tryptich 3-in-1 murals" at a college in N. Carolina:




From earlier thread on artist Benjamin Long
Thread: Does the Bank of America Mural (with "a predictive message") have a "cousin Mural?" Let's Look!

...AS FOR symbols that may mean something to folks living
PRIOR to the last micro-nova event (12,000 years ago)...
check out some symbols from Gobekli Tepe archeology discovery
around 2013. The "Argha Noa" disaster symbol used in their
time has been "borrowed" by many POST 12,000 YEAR human
symbols--but NOT for "creation/destruction" which those
folks used it for. Just look:


A 1/2-ARC under a CIRCLE is called
an "Argha Noa" (pronounced "arka-noah")
and predates "noah" in the Old Testament by 10,000 years.

This use of the same "Argha Noa Symbol" by the Catholic
church can clearly be seen, but NOT with the same
meaning:


This image *(TY to GLP's BASE12) shows us that at least
the Vatican has "captured" the Argha Noa Symbol for its
own symbol, referenced to the Virgin Mary, yet have you ever
seen this symbol in wide use anywhere else?


From earlier thread on this 12,000 year old "creation
and destruction" symbol:
Thread: The Argha Noa Symbol: Dan Brown's & Jordan Maxwell's Secret Disaster Symbol now Points to a Solar Micro-Nova Soon!

Good example, I think.


The Oracle's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 03/12/2024 07:04 PM

Bump again So the video doesn't get buried by long posts.

Beat me to it.

There are some great civil discussions in here and I really appreciate everyone's research and input.

Helps build the bigger picture and clears some of the muddy water.

Thanks for keeping this thread going Storm...

You're welcome, it seems that every time I think of quitting this thread people post and I realize that there are many people who follow this thread but rarely post a reply.

So I keep posting twice a day and pinning it when I can.

Less than 12,000 years old? That's debatable.

There are artifacts in the caves of Europe (France and Germany) dating back to around 30-35,000 BC, pointing us to human occupation. I think the artwork itself in Lascaux is dated to about 15,000 BC and square in the last ice age expansion period. Hard to imagine people taking the time to make such great artwork which depicts some of our constellations when they were actually trying to survive day-to-day and they would have migrated further south to places like southern Italy and Sicily.

I see the cycle like this. Imagine a tire with its valve stem. The valve stem marks the micro-nova event. In the circle-cycle we are most advanced right before the valve stem (like now) and right after it we are the least advanced fighting for survival. The number of cycles is unknown but I'm pretty sure they were not happening when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth as I expressed above. In one of those cycles though is when the great megalithic stone monuments were built for, we simply lacked the knowledge to do so in this cycle (the technology is lost). Scripture tells us about the advanced pyramid-building society in the Genesis Tower of Babel story. Unfortunately, scripture compresses the timeline.

Monuments and their Ages

From an academic perspective they tend to date a site based on artifacts (carbon). We can't date rock, but we can observe some things.

We're told that history, the time when humans had complete writing systems; Sumerian archaic cuneiform script and the Egyptian hieroglyphs began approx 5,500 years ago.

Before that we have proto-writing: Jiahu symbols (c.6600 BCE), Vina signs (c.5300 BCE) that goes back another 1,100 years to almost to 8,000BC.
There is debate over exactly when we crossed from pre-history to history based on writing systems.

Amazingly, some of the same academic archaeologists and historians agree that Gobekli Tepe is 11,500 years old (9,500BC). They tell us that the site was "inhabited" then.

To be clear they are saying that hunter-gathers who lacked proto-writing skills had stopped in Turkey to build megalithically. For the academics then Gobekli Tepe is an outlier but demonstrates a lot of astronomical knowledge.

Should it strike us as odd that some of the most advanced stone carving techniques we know of, called 'embossed' carving, is representative at Gobekli Tepe? Yes, it should. Just like the best pyramids built in Egypt were the first ones..??

We should also consider that they don't have any theories on solar micro-nova and yet ancient sites in South America, Mexico and Egypt have vitrification, a sign of shiny and smooth 'solar flaring melted rock' on temple sites. Same is true in the American Southwest where there is arguably the largest petroglyph collection on Earth - blackened rock.

Is it possible that a solar micro-nova happened 12,000 years ago and then 500 years after that someone built Gobekli Tepe? I don't think so. But that site and sites in Egypt are contemporary based on the embossed carving technique displayed.

Robert Schoch makes a good argument that the Sphinx is much older based on water erosion. Again, we have no way of dating the stone used at the temple sites and just because the academic pros give us a carbon/artifact date that date is contemporary with tenants not builders.



Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 03/12/2024 10:58 PM

It is possible that the dating technology is off by 500 years, and possible that burnt stones thru off the dating method also.

Thats why I believe the cave drawings are important, as far as the cave dwellers having time to draw, I've done the same thing at deer camp, most of the day and early nighttime is spent telling stories and cooking around the fire.