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Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !

 
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Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !
Wind turbines are actually slaughtering millions of birds and bats annually.

Of particular concerns are the Raptors, golden and bald eagles, various species of broad wing soaring hawks and vultures. These raptors primary habitat is open grasslands and woodlands where they soar over open country in search of small mammal prey species. These open woodlands often coincide with area that have winds that are favorable for wind power generation. The conflict between the rapidly spinning wind blades and the high flying raptors is no contest for these birds. It is estimated that over a million eagles have been killed by wind farms since they first started operation. One study showed that over 2,000 Golden Eagles were killed at the location of a windfarm near Altamont pass near San Francisco.

The local extinction of raptors in the area of wind farms has ripple effects across ecosystems, as rat, mice, snakes and other prey species populations explode in the absence of predatory birds to control their population.

[link to savetheeaglesinternational.org]

I studied Golden Eagle Populations for over a decade in southern California ... they are magnificent birds.

So sad to here the extent of what many of my colleagues predicted what would happen with wind farms.
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You know how laughable it sounds to say wind mills are killing enough birds every year to commit to emergency response efforts?


'we have to stay dependent on oil (which kills tens of millions of animals a year) because birds die when we use renewable energy sources'



I'd need to see many many very specific proofs just to believe this absurd notion.


up to 175million 'collisions' between birds and powerlines just in the USA every year. we BETTER BAN ELECTRIC CABLES

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Re: Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !
So youre saying birds are too stupid to see the wind turbines and fly around them??? I find this hard to believe, birds can migrate due to natural instanct , catch prey from high up dueto excellenteyesight, but cant manage to avoid a huge wind turbine????
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So youre saying birds are too stupid to see the wind turbines and fly around them??? I find this hard to believe, birds can migrate due to natural instanct , catch prey from high up dueto excellenteyesight, but cant manage to avoid a huge wind turbine????
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exactly lol clappa
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well now ... we have some ornithologists here at GIP

thank you for your insightful and intelligent contributions to this important discussion.

If you knew anything about raptors your would understand that their eyes are adapted for hunting by scanning terrain with focus on peripheral vision for the widest view of potential prey. This focal arrangement creates a blind spot in their forward vision, with results in them not seeing in front of them with clarity.
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That is more eagles killed than DDT ever did. Probably one of the most beneficial pesticides for mankind ever invented, as it almost wiped out malaria by controlling mosquitoes

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well now ... we have some ornithologists here at GIP

thank you for your insightful and intelligent contributions to this important discussion.

If you knew anything about raptors your would understand that their eyes are adapted for hunting by scanning terrain with focus on peripheral vision for the widest view of potential prey. This focal arrangement creates a blind spot in their forward vision, with results in them not seeing in front of them with clarity.
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so what you're saying is, through allllll of the airspace available out there, that birds are far too likely to just happen to be in the right place at the right time to not notice a multi-hundred foot structure right in front of them?

I understand the dangers of fast moving parts, but Im still laughing that people see wind turbines as such a threat.


Why don't we hear about birds dying from flying into buildings because they're too focused on their peripheral?

Where's the outrage against birds dying from running into tree branches that are swaying in the wind, since you know, they can't even see the branches because #peripherals
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Re: Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !
well now ... we have some ornithologists here at GIP

thank you for your insightful and intelligent contributions to this important discussion.

If you knew anything about raptors your would understand that their eyes are adapted for hunting by scanning terrain with focus on peripheral vision for the widest view of potential prey. This focal arrangement creates a blind spot in their forward vision, with results in them not seeing in front of them with clarity.
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so what you're saying is, through allllll of the airspace available out there, that birds are far too likely to just happen to be in the right place at the right time to not notice a multi-hundred foot structure right in front of them?

I understand the dangers of fast moving parts, but Im still laughing that people see wind turbines as such a threat.


Why don't we hear about birds dying from flying into buildings because they're too focused on their peripheral?

Where's the outrage against birds dying from running into tree branches that are swaying in the wind, since you know, they can't even see the branches because #peripherals
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You obviously work for the wind turbine industry and give no shits about Eagles and hawks.
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Has no thought been given or action taken to painting these inefficient NASA designed machines with some sort of stripes or patterns to scsre the birds away from them... like owls faces perhaps... make em like scarecrows.

Or is this too obvious for this world? Present company excluded of course.
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well now ... we have some ornithologists here at GIP

thank you for your insightful and intelligent contributions to this important discussion.

If you knew anything about raptors your would understand that their eyes are adapted for hunting by scanning terrain with focus on peripheral vision for the widest view of potential prey. This focal arrangement creates a blind spot in their forward vision, with results in them not seeing in front of them with clarity.
 Quoting: Plants Constant


so what you're saying is, through allllll of the airspace available out there, that birds are far too likely to just happen to be in the right place at the right time to not notice a multi-hundred foot structure right in front of them?

I understand the dangers of fast moving parts, but Im still laughing that people see wind turbines as such a threat.


Why don't we hear about birds dying from flying into buildings because they're too focused on their peripheral?

Where's the outrage against birds dying from running into tree branches that are swaying in the wind, since you know, they can't even see the branches because #peripherals
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You obviously work for the wind turbine industry and give no shits about Eagles and hawks.
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DANG BRO I didnt know that the wind turbines were RACIST ALSO!! I can't believe they're profiling and openly attacking hawks and eagles, while leaving other flying critters alone. Hell yeah, I learn every day.
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Re: Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !
I never liked wind farms.

Trump doesn't either.
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btw obviously im being playful. If this topic is actually sometheing you care about, I apologize for having fun with it.

I absolutely love all life, all life matters, but nature kills far more eagles every year than windmills ever could, especially at the slow rate in which wind farms are being installed here.
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If you want to talk about bird decimation look at the toll house cats do to birds nationwide. BTW I have 3
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Re: Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !
How about the fact that these Turbines are wiping out bat populations in many areas which are critical for controlling flying insects ....

and bats have radar

[link to www.scientificamerican.com (secure)]

also here is an interactive map of all the wind turbine locations in the US. I had no idea there were so many ....
of these 300 ft bird blenders there are in the US>

[link to openei.org (secure)]

Zoom in on some of the more densely populated areas of wind farms to see how extensive there are ....

and how much territory they occupy in prime raptor habitat.
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OP is an alarmist with an IQ no higher than 65.

No "raptors"!!!!

ahhh

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how the fuck did you get all that green karma while being an insulting prick. Oh I see ... your a forum administrator ... no wonder this forum is going to shit.

People give you green karma because they dont wanna be kicked off the forum and wanna get some brown on their nose.
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Great post PC, 5 stars

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OP is an alarmist with an IQ no higher than 65.

No "raptors"!!!!

ahhh

billlaugh
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how the fuck did you get all that green karma while being an insulting prick. Oh I see ... your a forum administrator ... no wonder this forum is going to shit.

People give you green karma because they dont wanna be kicked off the forum and wanna get some brown on their nose.
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Nope. They see you just like I do. I gave the honest truth. You're an anti-truth type of pussy. You need a dose of reality and I shoved it up your fat ass.

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well nice to meet you too mr. sunshine !

you like shoving it up a boys ass now do you ?
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Re: Wind Farms are DECIMATING RAPTORS across the Planet ! Extinction Predicted for many species !
These things also cost more than projected to maintain. So they may not be getting the maintenance they should. And if a blade comes off - watch out.

The human death per kilowatt is much higher for wind than coal.
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you are the one who started the metaphor ....

and I am a Man ... so

you started it with your insult ... so I guess you can dish but not take it ... waddever

ban me ... I give no shits

But I also give good posts ... something in short supply these days.

and I go back to the days of Kent and Elaine

so maybe it is a good time for you to put me out to pasture.

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