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The reason for forced multiculturalism and breakdown of societies... Alien Contact

 
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Nature is brutal. "They show empathy for the benefit of the group"? You just defeated your entire argument. They are working for the benefit of others without virtue signalling.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


You clearly didn't read my other comment. Usually found only in primate groups. When's the last time a lion had empathy for a gazelle before it tore it apart live!? Empathy benefits the group so is found there. Unlike in predators. It's all self serving because what's good for the group is good for everyone.
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Different species pal, big difference. No need to teach me about the behavioral aspects of animals, I am a farmer and I know a lot more than you will ever know. I show no empathy to any animal that I slaughter. The instinct to breathe is self serving as well, you considering giving up breathing in order to stop virtue signalling?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Was exactly my point. Empathy is only found in the primate group. Predators don't give a shit about the feelings of others. It just cares about lunch and having its needs met. You do show empathy or at least I hope you would in that you wouldn't torture the animal for some sick pleasure. Because you can empathize with pain and feelings of fear. Lol breathing has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
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You know nothing about animals. All animals, not only primates, show empathy to others in their species. I see it in a range of species every day. If a species has no empathy for its own kind, it is finished. Predators, including us, all show empathy. You have been taught incorrectly.

LOL, you're right, I realised as soon as I published it that it was wrong. I do feel empathy for stock, injured beyond help, that I have to kill. I meant that I have no empathy for them being dead when I eat them. I kill humanely.
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I'll try my best to explain this, but it might be long. Please bear with me.

As a species, we've proven to be aggressive, fearful, xenophobic and destructive towards one another. Any alien species observing us would not be able to classify as simplistic as the way they make it seem in Sci-Fi shows such as Star Trek or Star Trek or any similar.

For instance, with Star Trek, they will often refer to Klingon, Romulans, Vulcan and a ton of other species from many other worlds. With Star Wars, people and creatures are often designated by the planet they come from. In the movies The Predator, or Aliens, or similar, the creatures are, once again, distinct as a species and from a particular planet.

In each of these instances, every species referred to is understood to be of the same, one collective, one group, one race.

Humans (from Earth) are merely referred to as "humans" or "Earthlings", however, the problem is, there has never been a movie which has examined the planet Earth, and our species, as it really is... None that I can recall at the moment.

You see, we have WAY too many factions here on this planet, to be able to meet with, make alliances or to fight with, an Alien threat. The best movie I can recall which suggested that we would see past our differences (as Ronald Reagan once suggested) and work together to defeat such a threat, was the movie, Independence Day.

Now, this being said, what happens when they come here in secret, or as friends... then what?

Exactly what has happened unfortunately, and the reason for much of our history occurring the way it has, as well as entire missing tribes of people on the Earth, at different times. What I am suggesting is this.

We have come to a bit of a stagnation point in terms of our advancement and progression and have actually started to regress as a result. When you consider how we went from steam powered engines, to electricity and right into the nuclear age, followed by advanced electronics, digital and computers in such a short period of time; when you compare all of that to what we've seen in the past 5-10 years, a slowing down and no really new advances in technology, but instead, simply more planned obsolescence and more expensive repeats of the same tech, labeled as "the next best thing" every 6 months to a year. That's simply our technology.

But what about socially? What's happened?

Yes there's been an increase of some groups on the planet. True there has been a decrease in others. Collectively we are still segregated as human beings, with China being China, Russia being Russia, India being India, and so on down the line. For an alien species to come to Earth and to simply declare us "humans" would be like examining dogs at a dog show or spiders or birds or fish, and declaring them all as being the same, when they obviously are not.

And just as you might have no problem with being in contact with certain types of dogs or spiders or birds or fish, there are others you would look to avoid, naturally. So too with our alien observers and so have they carefully selected who to contact, try to make deals with and who they avoid.

How does this tie in to multiculturalism? If you notice most stories we draw ideas from about the future of the human species in terms of the future, Sci-Fi and space travel, one distinct social queue is that nobody seems to care about anyone's individual identity. Everyone is nonplussed and could not possibly care less. What they do care about is what function one serves as THAT is their worth. If you don't have a function, you're worthless, end of story.

However, unlike our current conditions here on Earth, in 2019, there seems to be less of a chance of becoming worthless and every chance and opportunity of being something, contributing something or reaching for the stars and actually getting there.

What I'm getting at is this. If space is truly the next great destination for our species, and contact with other species is the plan, then we need to be homogeneous as a species, without borders, without so many differences, with a one world governance (call it order if you wish, but unfortunately, management of 7+ billion requires order) and possibly even one language (in time).

It's possible then, what we are seeing, as more and more people try to express their individuality in every way possible, is the end of individuality as a result.

If this bothers you, think of it this way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The biggest problem they faced with sending someone through that portal was truly a moral issue that needed the kind of attention to interviewing and dissecting who would be the best candidate. That person would have to be a "universal" representative to ALL of us here on the planet, if first contact was going to be established to our better advantage.

Imagine sending the wrong kind of individual through that thing. Someone with a political bias, ideology, anti-social personality, racist or even a fundamentalist. Really stop and think about this for a moment.

Ahh, I know. Think of it like what happened at the end of the modern day reproduction of Planets of the Apes and how one ape was able to get away and back to Earth before Mark Wahlburg did. He gets back to Earth and sadly, the entire world is different, even the statue of Abraham Lincoln is replace with a figure of that ape instead.

Now, these are two different scenarios, one of time travel and consequences of paradoxes and such and one of time and space travel with meeting aliens.

Thankfully for us (in the movie Contact) the alien who portrayed himself as Jodie Foster's dad was already aware of who and what we were, even telling her as much. They had already observed us, knew how we thought, knew our flaws and yet, they also knew we were smart enough and ready to interpret signals with embedded information which we could translate and then build the device which made it possible to make contact with them. THIS was our test (as he told her that this was the way it was done as well) and that human species was VERY young in terms of the hundreds and thousands of years we had to go yet to progress further.

So in my opinion (and observing our own world, news and social memes and behaviors), we may be entering our next "jump point" or advancement step to the next level. Unfortunately, not everyone moves at the same pace, or with the same level of advancement and as a result, many will be left behind, devolve or simply, die off.

There is no wrong or right to all of this. This is NOT a challenge to anyone's personal, spiritual or dogmatic beliefs of God, religion or lack thereof. I'm merely suggesting that what I am seeing is the breakdown of our world and there being an alien component to it all, something other than human rather, which has a driving force or influence behind it all.

Some of you might say that it is deception, that this force is Lucifer or someone similar, masquerading as aliens and inter-dimensional beings. Perhaps, but then, it never answers the question or solves our biggest problem, that being, of being so diversified and separated from one another. As to why there are SO many different dialects and languages around the world when mathematics and music and many other things are universally accepted, integrated and used by all (I know, for some of you it's the "tower of babel" story). As to why there are distinct differences between several particular races of people on this planet, very distinct, and which makes it seem that there was either genetic tampering or some other kind of placement of us being put here on this planet, at different times or by different individuals.

One last thing. Entering into space, the perfect "space traveler" would one that was cloned, simply for efficiency. The same blood type, spare body parts and organs with dormant clones in stasis, the same nutritional requirements and so on. As it stands, to send people with so many genetic and hereditary problems or historically inherited illnesses, why would you?

Alien abductions, DNA collection, blood banks and genetic collection agencies (23 and me, ancestry, etc.) are for good reason.

Lastly, as for the social norms in our society, I've said this before and will again. "What nature deems is natural. What society deems is normal."

Unfortunately, we (men and women) have tried to destroy nature, not merely by our abuses and excessive uses of certain natural resources, but spiritually as well. In simple terms:

Nature is what deems a boy a male and in becoming a man, as well as a girl a female and in becoming a woman. Basic biology 101. It does this to ensure procreation, first and foremost. Anything second to that are a byproduct of the who, what, where, when and why in terms of our being born to a specific area, set of parents, social class, region and other factors which will then shape our personality, experiences and thinking, which includes our genetic mix, predisposition and quite possibly, environmental factors either of our two parents may have been in contact with which further affected our development from inception (people don't investigate this enough). Think bi-phenol A and affecting young boys for instance, or a woman smoking during pregnancy here.

Society can decide, label and decide what we call each other and accept as our societal norms. It used to be socially acceptable to use the N-word, just as it was socially acceptable to stay in the closet and not tell people you were gay. Just as it was socially acceptable to be a Nazi in 1939 Germany. Problem is, does it make it right? Does it conform with natural law or does it possibly violate it? And what factors or influences then decide when it's no longer fashionable, accepted, practiced or eventually, outlawed?

When nature and society are in harmony, as well as applying or deriving our technology to compliment both the same (like Tesla free energy for instance), we advance, rapidly.

Well, that's it, I'm done with my long rant or writing here. I'm just giving you all something to consider. That what is influencing us all is bigger than us, it's almost like a collective consciousness which is trying to make a "New Order" out of chaos, so to speak.

I wish everyone well, whatever and wherever your journey takes you. Peace.
 Quoting: BeenHereBefore


I read every word of your post.

Here is the problem with your line of thought...

The idea was "there can be only one" NOT "lets make homogenized ice cream".

Only the strongest and smartest were meant to survive.

The rest were meant to die.

Now we are pushing for the survival of the weakest and dumbest.

All wrong.

Ass backwards.

Bad fucking idea.

I can see how people could be suckered in by your line of thought but it's completely wrong and only breeds a weak worthless 'species'.
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How can it still stand? I know, without a doubt, that I do these gigs only because I believe that the retirement home thing is a big rort. I think it is practically criminal the way it is set up. They are mostly defenseless and forgotten bags of meat in beds.
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Equal opportunity. You all get something out of it. Is my point.
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I thought that your point was that all empathy is contrived for self gain. Equal opportunity?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


All empathy is self serving and equal opportunity. It is for the good of the group and has its own rewards. It is not selfless.
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You keep repeating this, but you must understand that the words 'group' and 'self' are two separate words because they mean completely different things? Doing something for a group can hardly be called self serving, although it can contribute to self in a gradual manner.
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You clearly didn't read my other comment. Usually found only in primate groups. When's the last time a lion had empathy for a gazelle before it tore it apart live!? Empathy benefits the group so is found there. Unlike in predators. It's all self serving because what's good for the group is good for everyone.
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Different species pal, big difference. No need to teach me about the behavioral aspects of animals, I am a farmer and I know a lot more than you will ever know. I show no empathy to any animal that I slaughter. The instinct to breathe is self serving as well, you considering giving up breathing in order to stop virtue signalling?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Was exactly my point. Empathy is only found in the primate group. Predators don't give a shit about the feelings of others. It just cares about lunch and having its needs met. You do show empathy or at least I hope you would in that you wouldn't torture the animal for some sick pleasure. Because you can empathize with pain and feelings of fear. Lol breathing has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
 Quoting: Spaceman11




You know nothing about animals. All animals, not only primates, show empathy to others in their species. I see it in a range of species every day. If a species has no empathy for its own kind, it is finished. Predators, including us, all show empathy. You have been taught incorrectly.

LOL, you're right, I realised as soon as I published it that it was wrong. I do feel empathy for stock, injured beyond help, that I have to kill. I meant that I have no empathy for them being dead when I eat them. I kill humanely.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I know plenty about animals. What is your point anyway!? Are you just looking to split hairs!? Different species don't feel empathy. They kill without compunction. Empathy is more group based animals. And even chimpanzee and the like are known to kill each other and dominate each other. Yes, you kill humanely because you have empathy for them. You can empathize with their feelings.
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Equal opportunity. You all get something out of it. Is my point.
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I thought that your point was that all empathy is contrived for self gain. Equal opportunity?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


All empathy is self serving and equal opportunity. It is for the good of the group and has its own rewards. It is not selfless.
 Quoting: Spaceman11





You keep repeating this, but you must understand that the words 'group' and 'self' are two separate words because they mean completely different things? Doing something for a group can hardly be called self serving, although it can contribute to self in a gradual manner.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


You clearly don't understand group psychology. What benefits the group also benefits everyone in the group. You scratch my back while I scratch yours. Something in return.
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Bull shit. It’s to usher in One World Goverment
Make everyone the same and over take America and Europe
With 3rd world Scum. 3rd world people are easier to rule over
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This is the correct answer. That is why you see Islam being pushed worldwide by TPTB. Why else is Christianity being eliminated? Hundreds of thousands wiped out by ISIS, (TPTB) in the middle east recently. Christianity considered racist and backwords, but Islam praised and pushed in our schools and in the halls of congress. It is "cult" of submission. As you said, easy to rule over.
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I'm tired of this discussion anyway. Got some things to do.
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I'm a certified German

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I'll try my best to explain this, but it might be long. Please bear with me.

As a species, we've proven to be aggressive, fearful, xenophobic and destructive towards one another. Any alien species observing us would not be able to classify as simplistic as the way they make it seem in Sci-Fi shows such as Star Trek or Star Trek or any similar.

For instance, with Star Trek, they will often refer to Klingon, Romulans, Vulcan and a ton of other species from many other worlds. With Star Wars, people and creatures are often designated by the planet they come from. In the movies The Predator, or Aliens, or similar, the creatures are, once again, distinct as a species and from a particular planet.

In each of these instances, every species referred to is understood to be of the same, one collective, one group, one race.

Humans (from Earth) are merely referred to as "humans" or "Earthlings", however, the problem is, there has never been a movie which has examined the planet Earth, and our species, as it really is... None that I can recall at the moment.

You see, we have WAY too many factions here on this planet, to be able to meet with, make alliances or to fight with, an Alien threat. The best movie I can recall which suggested that we would see past our differences (as Ronald Reagan once suggested) and work together to defeat such a threat, was the movie, Independence Day.

Now, this being said, what happens when they come here in secret, or as friends... then what?

Exactly what has happened unfortunately, and the reason for much of our history occurring the way it has, as well as entire missing tribes of people on the Earth, at different times. What I am suggesting is this.

We have come to a bit of a stagnation point in terms of our advancement and progression and have actually started to regress as a result. When you consider how we went from steam powered engines, to electricity and right into the nuclear age, followed by advanced electronics, digital and computers in such a short period of time; when you compare all of that to what we've seen in the past 5-10 years, a slowing down and no really new advances in technology, but instead, simply more planned obsolescence and more expensive repeats of the same tech, labeled as "the next best thing" every 6 months to a year. That's simply our technology.

But what about socially? What's happened?

Yes there's been an increase of some groups on the planet. True there has been a decrease in others. Collectively we are still segregated as human beings, with China being China, Russia being Russia, India being India, and so on down the line. For an alien species to come to Earth and to simply declare us "humans" would be like examining dogs at a dog show or spiders or birds or fish, and declaring them all as being the same, when they obviously are not.

And just as you might have no problem with being in contact with certain types of dogs or spiders or birds or fish, there are others you would look to avoid, naturally. So too with our alien observers and so have they carefully selected who to contact, try to make deals with and who they avoid.

How does this tie in to multiculturalism? If you notice most stories we draw ideas from about the future of the human species in terms of the future, Sci-Fi and space travel, one distinct social queue is that nobody seems to care about anyone's individual identity. Everyone is nonplussed and could not possibly care less. What they do care about is what function one serves as THAT is their worth. If you don't have a function, you're worthless, end of story.

However, unlike our current conditions here on Earth, in 2019, there seems to be less of a chance of becoming worthless and every chance and opportunity of being something, contributing something or reaching for the stars and actually getting there.

What I'm getting at is this. If space is truly the next great destination for our species, and contact with other species is the plan, then we need to be homogeneous as a species, without borders, without so many differences, with a one world governance (call it order if you wish, but unfortunately, management of 7+ billion requires order) and possibly even one language (in time).

It's possible then, what we are seeing, as more and more people try to express their individuality in every way possible, is the end of individuality as a result.

If this bothers you, think of it this way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The biggest problem they faced with sending someone through that portal was truly a moral issue that needed the kind of attention to interviewing and dissecting who would be the best candidate. That person would have to be a "universal" representative to ALL of us here on the planet, if first contact was going to be established to our better advantage.

Imagine sending the wrong kind of individual through that thing. Someone with a political bias, ideology, anti-social personality, racist or even a fundamentalist. Really stop and think about this for a moment.

Ahh, I know. Think of it like what happened at the end of the modern day reproduction of Planets of the Apes and how one ape was able to get away and back to Earth before Mark Wahlburg did. He gets back to Earth and sadly, the entire world is different, even the statue of Abraham Lincoln is replace with a figure of that ape instead.

Now, these are two different scenarios, one of time travel and consequences of paradoxes and such and one of time and space travel with meeting aliens.

Thankfully for us (in the movie Contact) the alien who portrayed himself as Jodie Foster's dad was already aware of who and what we were, even telling her as much. They had already observed us, knew how we thought, knew our flaws and yet, they also knew we were smart enough and ready to interpret signals with embedded information which we could translate and then build the device which made it possible to make contact with them. THIS was our test (as he told her that this was the way it was done as well) and that human species was VERY young in terms of the hundreds and thousands of years we had to go yet to progress further.

So in my opinion (and observing our own world, news and social memes and behaviors), we may be entering our next "jump point" or advancement step to the next level. Unfortunately, not everyone moves at the same pace, or with the same level of advancement and as a result, many will be left behind, devolve or simply, die off.

There is no wrong or right to all of this. This is NOT a challenge to anyone's personal, spiritual or dogmatic beliefs of God, religion or lack thereof. I'm merely suggesting that what I am seeing is the breakdown of our world and there being an alien component to it all, something other than human rather, which has a driving force or influence behind it all.

Some of you might say that it is deception, that this force is Lucifer or someone similar, masquerading as aliens and inter-dimensional beings. Perhaps, but then, it never answers the question or solves our biggest problem, that being, of being so diversified and separated from one another. As to why there are SO many different dialects and languages around the world when mathematics and music and many other things are universally accepted, integrated and used by all (I know, for some of you it's the "tower of babel" story). As to why there are distinct differences between several particular races of people on this planet, very distinct, and which makes it seem that there was either genetic tampering or some other kind of placement of us being put here on this planet, at different times or by different individuals.

One last thing. Entering into space, the perfect "space traveler" would one that was cloned, simply for efficiency. The same blood type, spare body parts and organs with dormant clones in stasis, the same nutritional requirements and so on. As it stands, to send people with so many genetic and hereditary problems or historically inherited illnesses, why would you?

Alien abductions, DNA collection, blood banks and genetic collection agencies (23 and me, ancestry, etc.) are for good reason.

Lastly, as for the social norms in our society, I've said this before and will again. "What nature deems is natural. What society deems is normal."

Unfortunately, we (men and women) have tried to destroy nature, not merely by our abuses and excessive uses of certain natural resources, but spiritually as well. In simple terms:

Nature is what deems a boy a male and in becoming a man, as well as a girl a female and in becoming a woman. Basic biology 101. It does this to ensure procreation, first and foremost. Anything second to that are a byproduct of the who, what, where, when and why in terms of our being born to a specific area, set of parents, social class, region and other factors which will then shape our personality, experiences and thinking, which includes our genetic mix, predisposition and quite possibly, environmental factors either of our two parents may have been in contact with which further affected our development from inception (people don't investigate this enough). Think bi-phenol A and affecting young boys for instance, or a woman smoking during pregnancy here.

Society can decide, label and decide what we call each other and accept as our societal norms. It used to be socially acceptable to use the N-word, just as it was socially acceptable to stay in the closet and not tell people you were gay. Just as it was socially acceptable to be a Nazi in 1939 Germany. Problem is, does it make it right? Does it conform with natural law or does it possibly violate it? And what factors or influences then decide when it's no longer fashionable, accepted, practiced or eventually, outlawed?

When nature and society are in harmony, as well as applying or deriving our technology to compliment both the same (like Tesla free energy for instance), we advance, rapidly.

Well, that's it, I'm done with my long rant or writing here. I'm just giving you all something to consider. That what is influencing us all is bigger than us, it's almost like a collective consciousness which is trying to make a "New Order" out of chaos, so to speak.

I wish everyone well, whatever and wherever your journey takes you. Peace.
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Yeah...sounds wonderful ... just sucks that the bastards invading us are a bunch of soulless insect beings.

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Different species pal, big difference. No need to teach me about the behavioral aspects of animals, I am a farmer and I know a lot more than you will ever know. I show no empathy to any animal that I slaughter. The instinct to breathe is self serving as well, you considering giving up breathing in order to stop virtue signalling?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Was exactly my point. Empathy is only found in the primate group. Predators don't give a shit about the feelings of others. It just cares about lunch and having its needs met. You do show empathy or at least I hope you would in that you wouldn't torture the animal for some sick pleasure. Because you can empathize with pain and feelings of fear. Lol breathing has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
 Quoting: Spaceman11




You know nothing about animals. All animals, not only primates, show empathy to others in their species. I see it in a range of species every day. If a species has no empathy for its own kind, it is finished. Predators, including us, all show empathy. You have been taught incorrectly.

LOL, you're right, I realised as soon as I published it that it was wrong. I do feel empathy for stock, injured beyond help, that I have to kill. I meant that I have no empathy for them being dead when I eat them. I kill humanely.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I know plenty about animals. What is your point anyway!? Are you just looking to split hairs!? Different species don't feel empathy. They kill without compunction. Empathy is more group based animals. And even chimpanzee and the like are known to kill each other and dominate each other. Yes, you kill humanely because you have empathy for them. You can empathize with their feelings.
 Quoting: Spaceman11





You have gone off on more tangents than I thought possible. Dead set, I am not trying to split hairs, you are making profoundly incorrect statements that can't be ignored. We are talking about empathy between humans, not the empathy of animals. I introduced animal empathy to the conversation only because you incorrectly stated that empathy is a self serving human construct. Stop being a revisionist and rearranging the Titanic's deck chairs. Without empathy a species would perish, even predators. Predators, besides apex predators, all have their own predators you know.
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I thought that your point was that all empathy is contrived for self gain. Equal opportunity?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


All empathy is self serving and equal opportunity. It is for the good of the group and has its own rewards. It is not selfless.
 Quoting: Spaceman11





You keep repeating this, but you must understand that the words 'group' and 'self' are two separate words because they mean completely different things? Doing something for a group can hardly be called self serving, although it can contribute to self in a gradual manner.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


You clearly don't understand group psychology. What benefits the group also benefits everyone in the group. You scratch my back while I scratch yours. Something in return.
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Put down that Guinness and learn how to read moran!
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Different species pal, big difference. No need to teach me about the behavioral aspects of animals, I am a farmer and I know a lot more than you will ever know. I show no empathy to any animal that I slaughter. The instinct to breathe is self serving as well, you considering giving up breathing in order to stop virtue signalling?
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Was exactly my point. Empathy is only found in the primate group. Predators don't give a shit about the feelings of others. It just cares about lunch and having its needs met. You do show empathy or at least I hope you would in that you wouldn't torture the animal for some sick pleasure. Because you can empathize with pain and feelings of fear. Lol breathing has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
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You know nothing about animals. All animals, not only primates, show empathy to others in their species. I see it in a range of species every day. If a species has no empathy for its own kind, it is finished. Predators, including us, all show empathy. You have been taught incorrectly.

LOL, you're right, I realised as soon as I published it that it was wrong. I do feel empathy for stock, injured beyond help, that I have to kill. I meant that I have no empathy for them being dead when I eat them. I kill humanely.
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I know plenty about animals. What is your point anyway!? Are you just looking to split hairs!? Different species don't feel empathy. They kill without compunction. Empathy is more group based animals. And even chimpanzee and the like are known to kill each other and dominate each other. Yes, you kill humanely because you have empathy for them. You can empathize with their feelings.
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People have murdering/killing instinct, as well. We're just more advanced and evolved with our emotions and instincts.

Everything unique and sentimental about us is just a result of our evolution and biology. We are no better, but potentially farther along the with the development of our consciousness and probably feel more connected to the universe than us (feeling separate, and so feeling empathetic toward others).

We have 3 dogs, they each have their own completely unique personality and they care for each other and my son. You could argue they are just doing it because of their evolutionary instinct. so are we. It all comes from the SOURCE!
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I'm a certified German

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I'll try my best to explain this, but it might be long. Please bear with me.

As a species, we've proven to be aggressive, fearful, xenophobic and destructive towards one another. Any alien species observing us would not be able to classify as simplistic as the way they make it seem in Sci-Fi shows such as Star Trek or Star Trek or any similar.

For instance, with Star Trek, they will often refer to Klingon, Romulans, Vulcan and a ton of other species from many other worlds. With Star Wars, people and creatures are often designated by the planet they come from. In the movies The Predator, or Aliens, or similar, the creatures are, once again, distinct as a species and from a particular planet.

In each of these instances, every species referred to is understood to be of the same, one collective, one group, one race.

Humans (from Earth) are merely referred to as "humans" or "Earthlings", however, the problem is, there has never been a movie which has examined the planet Earth, and our species, as it really is... None that I can recall at the moment.

You see, we have WAY too many factions here on this planet, to be able to meet with, make alliances or to fight with, an Alien threat. The best movie I can recall which suggested that we would see past our differences (as Ronald Reagan once suggested) and work together to defeat such a threat, was the movie, Independence Day.

Now, this being said, what happens when they come here in secret, or as friends... then what?

Exactly what has happened unfortunately, and the reason for much of our history occurring the way it has, as well as entire missing tribes of people on the Earth, at different times. What I am suggesting is this.

We have come to a bit of a stagnation point in terms of our advancement and progression and have actually started to regress as a result. When you consider how we went from steam powered engines, to electricity and right into the nuclear age, followed by advanced electronics, digital and computers in such a short period of time; when you compare all of that to what we've seen in the past 5-10 years, a slowing down and no really new advances in technology, but instead, simply more planned obsolescence and more expensive repeats of the same tech, labeled as "the next best thing" every 6 months to a year. That's simply our technology.

But what about socially? What's happened?

Yes there's been an increase of some groups on the planet. True there has been a decrease in others. Collectively we are still segregated as human beings, with China being China, Russia being Russia, India being India, and so on down the line. For an alien species to come to Earth and to simply declare us "humans" would be like examining dogs at a dog show or spiders or birds or fish, and declaring them all as being the same, when they obviously are not.

And just as you might have no problem with being in contact with certain types of dogs or spiders or birds or fish, there are others you would look to avoid, naturally. So too with our alien observers and so have they carefully selected who to contact, try to make deals with and who they avoid.

How does this tie in to multiculturalism? If you notice most stories we draw ideas from about the future of the human species in terms of the future, Sci-Fi and space travel, one distinct social queue is that nobody seems to care about anyone's individual identity. Everyone is nonplussed and could not possibly care less. What they do care about is what function one serves as THAT is their worth. If you don't have a function, you're worthless, end of story.

However, unlike our current conditions here on Earth, in 2019, there seems to be less of a chance of becoming worthless and every chance and opportunity of being something, contributing something or reaching for the stars and actually getting there.

What I'm getting at is this. If space is truly the next great destination for our species, and contact with other species is the plan, then we need to be homogeneous as a species, without borders, without so many differences, with a one world governance (call it order if you wish, but unfortunately, management of 7+ billion requires order) and possibly even one language (in time).

It's possible then, what we are seeing, as more and more people try to express their individuality in every way possible, is the end of individuality as a result.

If this bothers you, think of it this way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The biggest problem they faced with sending someone through that portal was truly a moral issue that needed the kind of attention to interviewing and dissecting who would be the best candidate. That person would have to be a "universal" representative to ALL of us here on the planet, if first contact was going to be established to our better advantage.

Imagine sending the wrong kind of individual through that thing. Someone with a political bias, ideology, anti-social personality, racist or even a fundamentalist. Really stop and think about this for a moment.

Ahh, I know. Think of it like what happened at the end of the modern day reproduction of Planets of the Apes and how one ape was able to get away and back to Earth before Mark Wahlburg did. He gets back to Earth and sadly, the entire world is different, even the statue of Abraham Lincoln is replace with a figure of that ape instead.

Now, these are two different scenarios, one of time travel and consequences of paradoxes and such and one of time and space travel with meeting aliens.

Thankfully for us (in the movie Contact) the alien who portrayed himself as Jodie Foster's dad was already aware of who and what we were, even telling her as much. They had already observed us, knew how we thought, knew our flaws and yet, they also knew we were smart enough and ready to interpret signals with embedded information which we could translate and then build the device which made it possible to make contact with them. THIS was our test (as he told her that this was the way it was done as well) and that human species was VERY young in terms of the hundreds and thousands of years we had to go yet to progress further.

So in my opinion (and observing our own world, news and social memes and behaviors), we may be entering our next "jump point" or advancement step to the next level. Unfortunately, not everyone moves at the same pace, or with the same level of advancement and as a result, many will be left behind, devolve or simply, die off.

There is no wrong or right to all of this. This is NOT a challenge to anyone's personal, spiritual or dogmatic beliefs of God, religion or lack thereof. I'm merely suggesting that what I am seeing is the breakdown of our world and there being an alien component to it all, something other than human rather, which has a driving force or influence behind it all.

Some of you might say that it is deception, that this force is Lucifer or someone similar, masquerading as aliens and inter-dimensional beings. Perhaps, but then, it never answers the question or solves our biggest problem, that being, of being so diversified and separated from one another. As to why there are SO many different dialects and languages around the world when mathematics and music and many other things are universally accepted, integrated and used by all (I know, for some of you it's the "tower of babel" story). As to why there are distinct differences between several particular races of people on this planet, very distinct, and which makes it seem that there was either genetic tampering or some other kind of placement of us being put here on this planet, at different times or by different individuals.

One last thing. Entering into space, the perfect "space traveler" would one that was cloned, simply for efficiency. The same blood type, spare body parts and organs with dormant clones in stasis, the same nutritional requirements and so on. As it stands, to send people with so many genetic and hereditary problems or historically inherited illnesses, why would you?

Alien abductions, DNA collection, blood banks and genetic collection agencies (23 and me, ancestry, etc.) are for good reason.

Lastly, as for the social norms in our society, I've said this before and will again. "What nature deems is natural. What society deems is normal."

Unfortunately, we (men and women) have tried to destroy nature, not merely by our abuses and excessive uses of certain natural resources, but spiritually as well. In simple terms:

Nature is what deems a boy a male and in becoming a man, as well as a girl a female and in becoming a woman. Basic biology 101. It does this to ensure procreation, first and foremost. Anything second to that are a byproduct of the who, what, where, when and why in terms of our being born to a specific area, set of parents, social class, region and other factors which will then shape our personality, experiences and thinking, which includes our genetic mix, predisposition and quite possibly, environmental factors either of our two parents may have been in contact with which further affected our development from inception (people don't investigate this enough). Think bi-phenol A and affecting young boys for instance, or a woman smoking during pregnancy here.

Society can decide, label and decide what we call each other and accept as our societal norms. It used to be socially acceptable to use the N-word, just as it was socially acceptable to stay in the closet and not tell people you were gay. Just as it was socially acceptable to be a Nazi in 1939 Germany. Problem is, does it make it right? Does it conform with natural law or does it possibly violate it? And what factors or influences then decide when it's no longer fashionable, accepted, practiced or eventually, outlawed?

When nature and society are in harmony, as well as applying or deriving our technology to compliment both the same (like Tesla free energy for instance), we advance, rapidly.

Well, that's it, I'm done with my long rant or writing here. I'm just giving you all something to consider. That what is influencing us all is bigger than us, it's almost like a collective consciousness which is trying to make a "New Order" out of chaos, so to speak.

I wish everyone well, whatever and wherever your journey takes you. Peace.
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I'll try my best to explain this, but it might be long. Please bear with me.

As a species, we've proven to be aggressive, fearful, xenophobic and destructive towards one another. Any alien species observing us would not be able to classify as simplistic as the way they make it seem in Sci-Fi shows such as Star Trek or Star Trek or any similar.

For instance, with Star Trek, they will often refer to Klingon, Romulans, Vulcan and a ton of other species from many other worlds. With Star Wars, people and creatures are often designated by the planet they come from. In the movies The Predator, or Aliens, or similar, the creatures are, once again, distinct as a species and from a particular planet.

In each of these instances, every species referred to is understood to be of the same, one collective, one group, one race.

Humans (from Earth) are merely referred to as "humans" or "Earthlings", however, the problem is, there has never been a movie which has examined the planet Earth, and our species, as it really is... None that I can recall at the moment.

You see, we have WAY too many factions here on this planet, to be able to meet with, make alliances or to fight with, an Alien threat. The best movie I can recall which suggested that we would see past our differences (as Ronald Reagan once suggested) and work together to defeat such a threat, was the movie, Independence Day.

Now, this being said, what happens when they come here in secret, or as friends... then what?

Exactly what has happened unfortunately, and the reason for much of our history occurring the way it has, as well as entire missing tribes of people on the Earth, at different times. What I am suggesting is this.

We have come to a bit of a stagnation point in terms of our advancement and progression and have actually started to regress as a result. When you consider how we went from steam powered engines, to electricity and right into the nuclear age, followed by advanced electronics, digital and computers in such a short period of time; when you compare all of that to what we've seen in the past 5-10 years, a slowing down and no really new advances in technology, but instead, simply more planned obsolescence and more expensive repeats of the same tech, labeled as "the next best thing" every 6 months to a year. That's simply our technology.

But what about socially? What's happened?

Yes there's been an increase of some groups on the planet. True there has been a decrease in others. Collectively we are still segregated as human beings, with China being China, Russia being Russia, India being India, and so on down the line. For an alien species to come to Earth and to simply declare us "humans" would be like examining dogs at a dog show or spiders or birds or fish, and declaring them all as being the same, when they obviously are not.

And just as you might have no problem with being in contact with certain types of dogs or spiders or birds or fish, there are others you would look to avoid, naturally. So too with our alien observers and so have they carefully selected who to contact, try to make deals with and who they avoid.

How does this tie in to multiculturalism? If you notice most stories we draw ideas from about the future of the human species in terms of the future, Sci-Fi and space travel, one distinct social queue is that nobody seems to care about anyone's individual identity. Everyone is nonplussed and could not possibly care less. What they do care about is what function one serves as THAT is their worth. If you don't have a function, you're worthless, end of story.

However, unlike our current conditions here on Earth, in 2019, there seems to be less of a chance of becoming worthless and every chance and opportunity of being something, contributing something or reaching for the stars and actually getting there.

What I'm getting at is this. If space is truly the next great destination for our species, and contact with other species is the plan, then we need to be homogeneous as a species, without borders, without so many differences, with a one world governance (call it order if you wish, but unfortunately, management of 7+ billion requires order) and possibly even one language (in time).

It's possible then, what we are seeing, as more and more people try to express their individuality in every way possible, is the end of individuality as a result.

If this bothers you, think of it this way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The biggest problem they faced with sending someone through that portal was truly a moral issue that needed the kind of attention to interviewing and dissecting who would be the best candidate. That person would have to be a "universal" representative to ALL of us here on the planet, if first contact was going to be established to our better advantage.

Imagine sending the wrong kind of individual through that thing. Someone with a political bias, ideology, anti-social personality, racist or even a fundamentalist. Really stop and think about this for a moment.

Ahh, I know. Think of it like what happened at the end of the modern day reproduction of Planets of the Apes and how one ape was able to get away and back to Earth before Mark Wahlburg did. He gets back to Earth and sadly, the entire world is different, even the statue of Abraham Lincoln is replace with a figure of that ape instead.

Now, these are two different scenarios, one of time travel and consequences of paradoxes and such and one of time and space travel with meeting aliens.

Thankfully for us (in the movie Contact) the alien who portrayed himself as Jodie Foster's dad was already aware of who and what we were, even telling her as much. They had already observed us, knew how we thought, knew our flaws and yet, they also knew we were smart enough and ready to interpret signals with embedded information which we could translate and then build the device which made it possible to make contact with them. THIS was our test (as he told her that this was the way it was done as well) and that human species was VERY young in terms of the hundreds and thousands of years we had to go yet to progress further.

So in my opinion (and observing our own world, news and social memes and behaviors), we may be entering our next "jump point" or advancement step to the next level. Unfortunately, not everyone moves at the same pace, or with the same level of advancement and as a result, many will be left behind, devolve or simply, die off.

There is no wrong or right to all of this. This is NOT a challenge to anyone's personal, spiritual or dogmatic beliefs of God, religion or lack thereof. I'm merely suggesting that what I am seeing is the breakdown of our world and there being an alien component to it all, something other than human rather, which has a driving force or influence behind it all.

Some of you might say that it is deception, that this force is Lucifer or someone similar, masquerading as aliens and inter-dimensional beings. Perhaps, but then, it never answers the question or solves our biggest problem, that being, of being so diversified and separated from one another. As to why there are SO many different dialects and languages around the world when mathematics and music and many other things are universally accepted, integrated and used by all (I know, for some of you it's the "tower of babel" story). As to why there are distinct differences between several particular races of people on this planet, very distinct, and which makes it seem that there was either genetic tampering or some other kind of placement of us being put here on this planet, at different times or by different individuals.

One last thing. Entering into space, the perfect "space traveler" would one that was cloned, simply for efficiency. The same blood type, spare body parts and organs with dormant clones in stasis, the same nutritional requirements and so on. As it stands, to send people with so many genetic and hereditary problems or historically inherited illnesses, why would you?

Alien abductions, DNA collection, blood banks and genetic collection agencies (23 and me, ancestry, etc.) are for good reason.

Lastly, as for the social norms in our society, I've said this before and will again. "What nature deems is natural. What society deems is normal."

Unfortunately, we (men and women) have tried to destroy nature, not merely by our abuses and excessive uses of certain natural resources, but spiritually as well. In simple terms:

Nature is what deems a boy a male and in becoming a man, as well as a girl a female and in becoming a woman. Basic biology 101. It does this to ensure procreation, first and foremost. Anything second to that are a byproduct of the who, what, where, when and why in terms of our being born to a specific area, set of parents, social class, region and other factors which will then shape our personality, experiences and thinking, which includes our genetic mix, predisposition and quite possibly, environmental factors either of our two parents may have been in contact with which further affected our development from inception (people don't investigate this enough). Think bi-phenol A and affecting young boys for instance, or a woman smoking during pregnancy here.

Society can decide, label and decide what we call each other and accept as our societal norms. It used to be socially acceptable to use the N-word, just as it was socially acceptable to stay in the closet and not tell people you were gay. Just as it was socially acceptable to be a Nazi in 1939 Germany. Problem is, does it make it right? Does it conform with natural law or does it possibly violate it? And what factors or influences then decide when it's no longer fashionable, accepted, practiced or eventually, outlawed?

When nature and society are in harmony, as well as applying or deriving our technology to compliment both the same (like Tesla free energy for instance), we advance, rapidly.

Well, that's it, I'm done with my long rant or writing here. I'm just giving you all something to consider. That what is influencing us all is bigger than us, it's almost like a collective consciousness which is trying to make a "New Order" out of chaos, so to speak.

I wish everyone well, whatever and wherever your journey takes you. Peace.
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I read every word of your post.

Here is the problem with your line of thought...

The idea was "there can be only one" NOT "lets make homogenized ice cream".

Only the strongest and smartest were meant to survive.

The rest were meant to die.

Now we are pushing for the survival of the weakest and dumbest.

All wrong.

Ass backwards.

Bad fucking idea.

I can see how people could be suckered in by your line of thought but it's completely wrong and only breeds a weak worthless 'species'.
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Was exactly my point. Empathy is only found in the primate group. Predators don't give a shit about the feelings of others. It just cares about lunch and having its needs met. You do show empathy or at least I hope you would in that you wouldn't torture the animal for some sick pleasure. Because you can empathize with pain and feelings of fear. Lol breathing has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
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You know nothing about animals. All animals, not only primates, show empathy to others in their species. I see it in a range of species every day. If a species has no empathy for its own kind, it is finished. Predators, including us, all show empathy. You have been taught incorrectly.

LOL, you're right, I realised as soon as I published it that it was wrong. I do feel empathy for stock, injured beyond help, that I have to kill. I meant that I have no empathy for them being dead when I eat them. I kill humanely.
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I know plenty about animals. What is your point anyway!? Are you just looking to split hairs!? Different species don't feel empathy. They kill without compunction. Empathy is more group based animals. And even chimpanzee and the like are known to kill each other and dominate each other. Yes, you kill humanely because you have empathy for them. You can empathize with their feelings.
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People have murdering/killing instinct, as well. We're just more advanced and evolved with our emotions and instincts.

Everything unique and sentimental about us is just a result of our evolution and biology. We are no better, but potentially farther along the with the development of our consciousness and probably feel more connected to the universe than us (feeling separate, and so feeling empathetic toward others).

We have 3 dogs, they each have their own completely unique personality and they care for each other and my son. You could argue they are just doing it because of their evolutionary instinct. so are we. It all comes from the SOURCE!
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Couldn't agree more. There is way to much false empathy in the world though. We have predation in our DNA, but TPTB are trying to manipulate our instinct, which, by definition, is virtually impossible. I think that your pets are as you say they are because of instinct, and perhaps a bit of Pavlov's Dog thrown in (no pun intended).
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What all-powerful entity/energy would engage in anthropomorphic ventures?: wanting to be worshipped, jealousy, etc.

Wouldn’t something so mind-blowingly omniscient be well beyond petty emotion?
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That's because you're not dealing with God.

You're dealing with beings who basically are like ticks that managed to suck a little god blood and have done bad bad things with it.

Humanity being one of them.

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I'll try my best to explain this, but it might be long. Please bear with me.

As a species, we've proven to be aggressive, fearful, xenophobic and destructive towards one another. Any alien species observing us would not be able to classify as simplistic as the way they make it seem in Sci-Fi shows such as Star Trek or Star Trek or any similar.

For instance, with Star Trek, they will often refer to Klingon, Romulans, Vulcan and a ton of other species from many other worlds. With Star Wars, people and creatures are often designated by the planet they come from. In the movies The Predator, or Aliens, or similar, the creatures are, once again, distinct as a species and from a particular planet.

In each of these instances, every species referred to is understood to be of the same, one collective, one group, one race.

Humans (from Earth) are merely referred to as "humans" or "Earthlings", however, the problem is, there has never been a movie which has examined the planet Earth, and our species, as it really is... None that I can recall at the moment.

You see, we have WAY too many factions here on this planet, to be able to meet with, make alliances or to fight with, an Alien threat. The best movie I can recall which suggested that we would see past our differences (as Ronald Reagan once suggested) and work together to defeat such a threat, was the movie, Independence Day.

Now, this being said, what happens when they come here in secret, or as friends... then what?

Exactly what has happened unfortunately, and the reason for much of our history occurring the way it has, as well as entire missing tribes of people on the Earth, at different times. What I am suggesting is this.

We have come to a bit of a stagnation point in terms of our advancement and progression and have actually started to regress as a result. When you consider how we went from steam powered engines, to electricity and right into the nuclear age, followed by advanced electronics, digital and computers in such a short period of time; when you compare all of that to what we've seen in the past 5-10 years, a slowing down and no really new advances in technology, but instead, simply more planned obsolescence and more expensive repeats of the same tech, labeled as "the next best thing" every 6 months to a year. That's simply our technology.

But what about socially? What's happened?

Yes there's been an increase of some groups on the planet. True there has been a decrease in others. Collectively we are still segregated as human beings, with China being China, Russia being Russia, India being India, and so on down the line. For an alien species to come to Earth and to simply declare us "humans" would be like examining dogs at a dog show or spiders or birds or fish, and declaring them all as being the same, when they obviously are not.

And just as you might have no problem with being in contact with certain types of dogs or spiders or birds or fish, there are others you would look to avoid, naturally. So too with our alien observers and so have they carefully selected who to contact, try to make deals with and who they avoid.

How does this tie in to multiculturalism? If you notice most stories we draw ideas from about the future of the human species in terms of the future, Sci-Fi and space travel, one distinct social queue is that nobody seems to care about anyone's individual identity. Everyone is nonplussed and could not possibly care less. What they do care about is what function one serves as THAT is their worth. If you don't have a function, you're worthless, end of story.

However, unlike our current conditions here on Earth, in 2019, there seems to be less of a chance of becoming worthless and every chance and opportunity of being something, contributing something or reaching for the stars and actually getting there.

What I'm getting at is this. If space is truly the next great destination for our species, and contact with other species is the plan, then we need to be homogeneous as a species, without borders, without so many differences, with a one world governance (call it order if you wish, but unfortunately, management of 7+ billion requires order) and possibly even one language (in time).

It's possible then, what we are seeing, as more and more people try to express their individuality in every way possible, is the end of individuality as a result.

If this bothers you, think of it this way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The biggest problem they faced with sending someone through that portal was truly a moral issue that needed the kind of attention to interviewing and dissecting who would be the best candidate. That person would have to be a "universal" representative to ALL of us here on the planet, if first contact was going to be established to our better advantage.

Imagine sending the wrong kind of individual through that thing. Someone with a political bias, ideology, anti-social personality, racist or even a fundamentalist. Really stop and think about this for a moment.

Ahh, I know. Think of it like what happened at the end of the modern day reproduction of Planets of the Apes and how one ape was able to get away and back to Earth before Mark Wahlburg did. He gets back to Earth and sadly, the entire world is different, even the statue of Abraham Lincoln is replace with a figure of that ape instead.

Now, these are two different scenarios, one of time travel and consequences of paradoxes and such and one of time and space travel with meeting aliens.

Thankfully for us (in the movie Contact) the alien who portrayed himself as Jodie Foster's dad was already aware of who and what we were, even telling her as much. They had already observed us, knew how we thought, knew our flaws and yet, they also knew we were smart enough and ready to interpret signals with embedded information which we could translate and then build the device which made it possible to make contact with them. THIS was our test (as he told her that this was the way it was done as well) and that human species was VERY young in terms of the hundreds and thousands of years we had to go yet to progress further.

So in my opinion (and observing our own world, news and social memes and behaviors), we may be entering our next "jump point" or advancement step to the next level. Unfortunately, not everyone moves at the same pace, or with the same level of advancement and as a result, many will be left behind, devolve or simply, die off.

There is no wrong or right to all of this. This is NOT a challenge to anyone's personal, spiritual or dogmatic beliefs of God, religion or lack thereof. I'm merely suggesting that what I am seeing is the breakdown of our world and there being an alien component to it all, something other than human rather, which has a driving force or influence behind it all.

Some of you might say that it is deception, that this force is Lucifer or someone similar, masquerading as aliens and inter-dimensional beings. Perhaps, but then, it never answers the question or solves our biggest problem, that being, of being so diversified and separated from one another. As to why there are SO many different dialects and languages around the world when mathematics and music and many other things are universally accepted, integrated and used by all (I know, for some of you it's the "tower of babel" story). As to why there are distinct differences between several particular races of people on this planet, very distinct, and which makes it seem that there was either genetic tampering or some other kind of placement of us being put here on this planet, at different times or by different individuals.

One last thing. Entering into space, the perfect "space traveler" would one that was cloned, simply for efficiency. The same blood type, spare body parts and organs with dormant clones in stasis, the same nutritional requirements and so on. As it stands, to send people with so many genetic and hereditary problems or historically inherited illnesses, why would you?

Alien abductions, DNA collection, blood banks and genetic collection agencies (23 and me, ancestry, etc.) are for good reason.

Lastly, as for the social norms in our society, I've said this before and will again. "What nature deems is natural. What society deems is normal."

Unfortunately, we (men and women) have tried to destroy nature, not merely by our abuses and excessive uses of certain natural resources, but spiritually as well. In simple terms:

Nature is what deems a boy a male and in becoming a man, as well as a girl a female and in becoming a woman. Basic biology 101. It does this to ensure procreation, first and foremost. Anything second to that are a byproduct of the who, what, where, when and why in terms of our being born to a specific area, set of parents, social class, region and other factors which will then shape our personality, experiences and thinking, which includes our genetic mix, predisposition and quite possibly, environmental factors either of our two parents may have been in contact with which further affected our development from inception (people don't investigate this enough). Think bi-phenol A and affecting young boys for instance, or a woman smoking during pregnancy here.

Society can decide, label and decide what we call each other and accept as our societal norms. It used to be socially acceptable to use the N-word, just as it was socially acceptable to stay in the closet and not tell people you were gay. Just as it was socially acceptable to be a Nazi in 1939 Germany. Problem is, does it make it right? Does it conform with natural law or does it possibly violate it? And what factors or influences then decide when it's no longer fashionable, accepted, practiced or eventually, outlawed?

When nature and society are in harmony, as well as applying or deriving our technology to compliment both the same (like Tesla free energy for instance), we advance, rapidly.

Well, that's it, I'm done with my long rant or writing here. I'm just giving you all something to consider. That what is influencing us all is bigger than us, it's almost like a collective consciousness which is trying to make a "New Order" out of chaos, so to speak.

I wish everyone well, whatever and wherever your journey takes you. Peace.
 Quoting: BeenHereBefore

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If you wanted to advance civilization you would first eliminate the useless people. Not bringtens millions of them to destroy advanced societies.
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If you wanted to advance civilization you would first eliminate the useless people. Not bringtens millions of them to destroy advanced societies.
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This. When we import millions of rapefugees to white countries, we only bring those countries down. If the goal was to advance civilization we would have change in the opposite direction. We would have 1st worlders moving into the 3rd world countries, bringing civilization to them and uplifting their primitive peoples.

Sadly, the goal of multiculturalism is not to prep us for alien contact. The goal of multiculturalism is white genocide. It's the replacement of whites with people who will more easily accept slavery at the hands of the elite.
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I'll try my best to explain this, but it might be long. Please bear with me.

As a species, we've proven to be aggressive, fearful, xenophobic and destructive towards one another. Any alien species observing us would not be able to classify as simplistic as the way they make it seem in Sci-Fi shows such as Star Trek or Star Trek or any similar.

For instance, with Star Trek, they will often refer to Klingon, Romulans, Vulcan and a ton of other species from many other worlds. With Star Wars, people and creatures are often designated by the planet they come from. In the movies The Predator, or Aliens, or similar, the creatures are, once again, distinct as a species and from a particular planet.

In each of these instances, every species referred to is understood to be of the same, one collective, one group, one race.

Humans (from Earth) are merely referred to as "humans" or "Earthlings", however, the problem is, there has never been a movie which has examined the planet Earth, and our species, as it really is... None that I can recall at the moment.

You see, we have WAY too many factions here on this planet, to be able to meet with, make alliances or to fight with, an Alien threat. The best movie I can recall which suggested that we would see past our differences (as Ronald Reagan once suggested) and work together to defeat such a threat, was the movie, Independence Day.

Now, this being said, what happens when they come here in secret, or as friends... then what?

Exactly what has happened unfortunately, and the reason for much of our history occurring the way it has, as well as entire missing tribes of people on the Earth, at different times. What I am suggesting is this.

We have come to a bit of a stagnation point in terms of our advancement and progression and have actually started to regress as a result. When you consider how we went from steam powered engines, to electricity and right into the nuclear age, followed by advanced electronics, digital and computers in such a short period of time; when you compare all of that to what we've seen in the past 5-10 years, a slowing down and no really new advances in technology, but instead, simply more planned obsolescence and more expensive repeats of the same tech, labeled as "the next best thing" every 6 months to a year. That's simply our technology.

But what about socially? What's happened?

Yes there's been an increase of some groups on the planet. True there has been a decrease in others. Collectively we are still segregated as human beings, with China being China, Russia being Russia, India being India, and so on down the line. For an alien species to come to Earth and to simply declare us "humans" would be like examining dogs at a dog show or spiders or birds or fish, and declaring them all as being the same, when they obviously are not.

And just as you might have no problem with being in contact with certain types of dogs or spiders or birds or fish, there are others you would look to avoid, naturally. So too with our alien observers and so have they carefully selected who to contact, try to make deals with and who they avoid.

How does this tie in to multiculturalism? If you notice most stories we draw ideas from about the future of the human species in terms of the future, Sci-Fi and space travel, one distinct social queue is that nobody seems to care about anyone's individual identity. Everyone is nonplussed and could not possibly care less. What they do care about is what function one serves as THAT is their worth. If you don't have a function, you're worthless, end of story.

However, unlike our current conditions here on Earth, in 2019, there seems to be less of a chance of becoming worthless and every chance and opportunity of being something, contributing something or reaching for the stars and actually getting there.

What I'm getting at is this. If space is truly the next great destination for our species, and contact with other species is the plan, then we need to be homogeneous as a species, without borders, without so many differences, with a one world governance (call it order if you wish, but unfortunately, management of 7+ billion requires order) and possibly even one language (in time).

It's possible then, what we are seeing, as more and more people try to express their individuality in every way possible, is the end of individuality as a result.

If this bothers you, think of it this way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The biggest problem they faced with sending someone through that portal was truly a moral issue that needed the kind of attention to interviewing and dissecting who would be the best candidate. That person would have to be a "universal" representative to ALL of us here on the planet, if first contact was going to be established to our better advantage.

Imagine sending the wrong kind of individual through that thing. Someone with a political bias, ideology, anti-social personality, racist or even a fundamentalist. Really stop and think about this for a moment.

Ahh, I know. Think of it like what happened at the end of the modern day reproduction of Planets of the Apes and how one ape was able to get away and back to Earth before Mark Wahlburg did. He gets back to Earth and sadly, the entire world is different, even the statue of Abraham Lincoln is replace with a figure of that ape instead.

Now, these are two different scenarios, one of time travel and consequences of paradoxes and such and one of time and space travel with meeting aliens.

Thankfully for us (in the movie Contact) the alien who portrayed himself as Jodie Foster's dad was already aware of who and what we were, even telling her as much. They had already observed us, knew how we thought, knew our flaws and yet, they also knew we were smart enough and ready to interpret signals with embedded information which we could translate and then build the device which made it possible to make contact with them. THIS was our test (as he told her that this was the way it was done as well) and that human species was VERY young in terms of the hundreds and thousands of years we had to go yet to progress further.

So in my opinion (and observing our own world, news and social memes and behaviors), we may be entering our next "jump point" or advancement step to the next level. Unfortunately, not everyone moves at the same pace, or with the same level of advancement and as a result, many will be left behind, devolve or simply, die off.

There is no wrong or right to all of this. This is NOT a challenge to anyone's personal, spiritual or dogmatic beliefs of God, religion or lack thereof. I'm merely suggesting that what I am seeing is the breakdown of our world and there being an alien component to it all, something other than human rather, which has a driving force or influence behind it all.

Some of you might say that it is deception, that this force is Lucifer or someone similar, masquerading as aliens and inter-dimensional beings. Perhaps, but then, it never answers the question or solves our biggest problem, that being, of being so diversified and separated from one another. As to why there are SO many different dialects and languages around the world when mathematics and music and many other things are universally accepted, integrated and used by all (I know, for some of you it's the "tower of babel" story). As to why there are distinct differences between several particular races of people on this planet, very distinct, and which makes it seem that there was either genetic tampering or some other kind of placement of us being put here on this planet, at different times or by different individuals.

One last thing. Entering into space, the perfect "space traveler" would one that was cloned, simply for efficiency. The same blood type, spare body parts and organs with dormant clones in stasis, the same nutritional requirements and so on. As it stands, to send people with so many genetic and hereditary problems or historically inherited illnesses, why would you?

Alien abductions, DNA collection, blood banks and genetic collection agencies (23 and me, ancestry, etc.) are for good reason.

Lastly, as for the social norms in our society, I've said this before and will again. "What nature deems is natural. What society deems is normal."

Unfortunately, we (men and women) have tried to destroy nature, not merely by our abuses and excessive uses of certain natural resources, but spiritually as well. In simple terms:

Nature is what deems a boy a male and in becoming a man, as well as a girl a female and in becoming a woman. Basic biology 101. It does this to ensure procreation, first and foremost. Anything second to that are a byproduct of the who, what, where, when and why in terms of our being born to a specific area, set of parents, social class, region and other factors which will then shape our personality, experiences and thinking, which includes our genetic mix, predisposition and quite possibly, environmental factors either of our two parents may have been in contact with which further affected our development from inception (people don't investigate this enough). Think bi-phenol A and affecting young boys for instance, or a woman smoking during pregnancy here.

Society can decide, label and decide what we call each other and accept as our societal norms. It used to be socially acceptable to use the N-word, just as it was socially acceptable to stay in the closet and not tell people you were gay. Just as it was socially acceptable to be a Nazi in 1939 Germany. Problem is, does it make it right? Does it conform with natural law or does it possibly violate it? And what factors or influences then decide when it's no longer fashionable, accepted, practiced or eventually, outlawed?

When nature and society are in harmony, as well as applying or deriving our technology to compliment both the same (like Tesla free energy for instance), we advance, rapidly.

Well, that's it, I'm done with my long rant or writing here. I'm just giving you all something to consider. That what is influencing us all is bigger than us, it's almost like a collective consciousness which is trying to make a "New Order" out of chaos, so to speak.

I wish everyone well, whatever and wherever your journey takes you. Peace.
 Quoting: BeenHereBefore


I read every word of your post.

Here is the problem with your line of thought...

The idea was "there can be only one" NOT "lets make homogenized ice cream".

Only the strongest and smartest were meant to survive.

The rest were meant to die.

Now we are pushing for the survival of the weakest and dumbest.

All wrong.

Ass backwards.

Bad fucking idea.

I can see how people could be suckered in by your line of thought but it's completely wrong and only breeds a weak worthless 'species'.
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I have not read it all yet.. waiting on waking up.. slow morning climbing out of bed.

we can't make homoginized ice cream... oneness occurs as people grow and some never do grow and the creation does eliminate them... its how it works... More than 1/2 the population of this world is now eliminated .. will never be HUman... their Father Fragments LEFT them behind and what is necessary for HUman.


HUman beings in the knowing/searching are Only BEgotten Sons of the Father.. and these well more than half of those walking the planet are NOT and never will be. Its not there.
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I read every word of your post.

Here is the problem with your line of thought...

The idea was "there can be only one" NOT "lets make homogenized ice cream".

Only the strongest and smartest were meant to survive.

The rest were meant to die.

Now we are pushing for the survival of the weakest and dumbest.

All wrong.

Ass backwards.

Bad fucking idea.

I can see how people could be suckered in by your line of thought but it's completely wrong and only breeds a weak worthless 'species'.


This is a very good point. I fully agree. Yes, the new narrative is dumbing us all down. I've mingled with some of our "elites". I was blown away how stupid they are. I mean it was and is unbelievable. Blind narcissism and ignorance. They're trying to do the right thing and help our people of earth become what they think we are. It was and is crazy. Here's a simple fact. If the native Americans behaved as we are now they would've been extinct long before pilgrims ever showed up.
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These are the reasons for multiculturalism into white and only white nations.

The non-whites are being indoctrinated into the white nation's culture as well as being educated to the highest levels possible on earth.

Then they release the genetic targeting weapons on the non-white nations and utterly depopulate them.

The non-whites educated and living in white nations then go or are sent back to rebuild their devastated nations but they are almost entirely Europeanised and controlled by Europeans.

Then you have an earth of 500 million people totally controlled by Europeans with Anglo-Saxons at the apex since their nations - Britain, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are absolutely flooded with non-whites.
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Any alien group that forces humanity to do anything is service to self and of the dark side orientation.

Humanity has free will and this would be observed by good aliens.
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Humanity has free will and this would be observed by good aliens.
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The issue, then, shouldn't be handled in the WEST until it is addressed in the EAST.

You want all of us to be the same, go start in the ME and Africa. Until you get them to be civilized societies, your plan is going no where.

Brow beating the West into taking in uncivilized people will just make the situation worse.
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The earth is flat brah. You can test this pretty easily get a nice set of binoculars and go to the ocean. Now occording to the math of our current belief when you point it at the ocean you should see a drop off and then you'd see space and if you had a real good binocular you'd see space. However you don't see that. You see flat water as far as the eyes can see. My point is this is a closed system so is not aliens. Whatever they are they are from here.





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