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'It's all fake' - Former Reddit CEO admits social media traffic statistics are phony

 
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'It's all fake' - Former Reddit CEO admits social media traffic statistics are phony
All the traffic you think you see, Facebook numbers, Twitter friends, it’s all fake, according to people in the know. More than that, what is real? In this age of social media and morphed everything, what can we assume is real?

“It’s all true: Everything is fake,” tweeted former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao. She was referencing a Wednesday New York Magazine article which reveals that internet traffic metrics from some of the largest tech companies are overstated or fabricated.

How much of the internet is fake? Studies generally suggest that, year after year, less than 60 percent of web traffic is human; some years, according to some researchers, a healthy majority of it is bot. For a period of time in 2013, the Times reported this year, a full half of YouTube traffic was “bots masquerading as people,”.


[link to www.independentsentinel.com]
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wow
Unofficial member of my own hate club. I'm there in a limited capacity. :[
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Duh?
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I have long suspected that I am the only living person posing on the internet. Since Richard retired.
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The issue here is twofold.

#1. These social media providers are charging advertisers based on their own fraudulent metrics, and the people paying for ad-space are getting ripped off.

#2. It allows them to create a faux sense of 'community consensus' and manipulate the crowds of people - If half or more of the 'upvotes' on these sites are pure B.S. - they can ostensibly ostracize counter-viewpoints by fooling people into a belief that the rest of the world just doesn't think as they do, which in-fact is false. They can then proceed to use this manipulation from everything to adverse socioeconomic views to political manipulation - making politicians believe more people are 'in-line' with a certain view than reality dictates. This inevitably causes civil-war or revolution.

This is a very dangerous precedent.
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 Quoting: Gettinoffdatsht


Wow? Are you surprised?
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The issue here is twofold.

#1. These social media providers are charging advertisers based on their own fraudulent metrics, and the people paying for ad-space are getting ripped off.

#2. It allows them to create a faux sense of 'community consensus' and manipulate the crowds of people - If half or more of the 'upvotes' on these sites are pure B.S. - they can ostensibly ostracize counter-viewpoints by fooling people into a belief that the rest of the world just doesn't think as they do, which in-fact is false. They can then proceed to use this manipulation from everything to adverse socioeconomic views to political manipulation - making politicians believe more people are 'in-line' with a certain view than reality dictates. This inevitably causes civil-war or revolution.

This is a very dangerous precedent.
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When you pay for advertising on Facebook, you will "miraculously" get a bunch of endless likes from Indian men.
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 Quoting: Gettinoffdatsht


Wow? Are you surprised?
 Quoting: Davey2000


Not surprised - I used to do SEO and know well the ease of social-media manipulation. I am surprised to hear it directly from the horses mouth.
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As a Russian bot, I'm in good company.
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Re: 'It's all fake' - Former Reddit CEO admits social media traffic statistics are phony
It works both ways too, metrics or views can be way higher for certain things than they appear.





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