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Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,

 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s nothing anyone can do to prepare for this.
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Not at all, because a Nova would totally obliterate the earth completely, as well as everything else in the solar system, possibly, including the Sun itself, because that's what novas do and are: the star exploding!

chuckle
 Quoting: Now Then..


apparently you didn't watch the videos.

what happens when the sun goes nova?

i believe that the sun rids itself of the material deposited into the sun from the comets, that fall into it, on a clock cycle of 12,600 years.
The solution to most problems is generally close at hand.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s nothing anyone can do to prepare for this.
 Quoting: _Enigma_


Not at all, because a Nova would totally obliterate the earth completely, as well as everything else in the solar system, possibly, including the Sun itself, because that's what novas do and are: the star exploding!

chuckle
 Quoting: Now Then..


My point. Thank you.
 Quoting: _Enigma_


As an engineer with some scientific training, a couple of things bother me about this hypothesis:

1. The exact regularity. Most processes in nature are fairly chaotic. Many are cyclical, but they do not happen on exact schedules. For example, the solar cycle of sunspots is about 11 years, but varies.

2. The idea of the crust of the Earth stopping rotation and then going backwards seems absurd. The amount of heat energy released would probably MELT the crust, and we see no geological evidence that this has ever happened.

Color me skeptical.
 Quoting: darth


what about the many layers of rock folding displayed at the Delaware Water Gap?
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More bullshit Doom that can’t be corroborated or proven. More dunces that will believe this crap.
Fucking crazy people listening to crazy people.
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More bullshit Doom that can’t be corroborated or proven. More dunces that will believe this crap.
Fucking crazy people listening to crazy people.
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WRONG, its very well documented and you do not have a cue or any documents to prove him wrong and it frustrates you that it aligns with the Torah ? yes
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by far the most important thread on GLP in quite a while...
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5 stared the thread and yes this needs permed to the top. I have been watching his lectures for two weeks now and very surprized (spelled wrong to make some people twitch) this is just now being posted here.
 Quoting: led_Dis_Spencer


I am onboard with this information and it resonates
being true with me--I have watched the first video twice
already and am taking notes for a 3rd time through. THERE
US A HUGE AMT OF MATERIAL TO ABSORB...

...NOT TO MENTION one needs to keep an open mind to be
able to listen carefully.

My only question to this AMAZING disclosure is...WHY NOW?

If TPTB have worked since 1958 to suppress this information
for the general public--and I'm sure there is something
to the "conspiracy of death" surrounding people who would
come forward to try to get the info out (as Charlie explained
in a fictional parody in the movie 2012)--WHY LET IT OUT
IN 2019?

PlzSaveChiweenie
"I'd listen to this guy, (Dr. Voyt)...If I were you!"[/youtube]

Is it because the SHTF "last chapter" is coming so soon
that most people will NOT have a chance to really plan
(as in moving AWAY FROM THE COASTLINES...moving to the
side of the planet where the nova WILL NOT HIT...things
like that)...and the elite who plan to be AT THE TOP of
the "heap" are well entrenched now with their bunkers?

I'm curious as to how they are even keeping it on YouTube!

cheers
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So we’re all going to die?

tomatosplat
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Some will survive, we just don’t know who. Civilation will go on.
 Quoting: Dee49


Though Dr. Voyt in the first video in OP's introduction
does NOT emphasize this statement--you need to listen very
carefully for it--Voyt makes the statement that SOME
PEOPLE CAN SURVIVE THIS...(I believe it is close to the
end of Part #4--the first video above when he says this.)

He then makes the caveat...and IMPORTANT POINT...
"...It will depend on WHERE YOU ARE ON THE PLANET when
this thing hits."


So...sadly, if you embrace Dr. Voyt's information,
"prepping" is not going to buy you any insurance. According
to what Dr. Voyt says is that we need to BE VERY AWARE OF WHERE WE ARE at the time this happens!!

Dr. V. said the last "focal point was in India" and Egypt
for this event--being evident by certain types of
"glass" left on the ground which is actually blasted out
parts of the sun's shell during a micro-nova (as Ben
Davidson from Suspicious Observer's video) calls it.
He DOES NOT say where researchers believe the "NEXT EVENT"
WILL TAKE PLACE which would be survivable.

He promises to go into greater detail in one of his
later videos (the one I watched on Page 1 paragraph 1 is
from #4...I'm assuming he will tell us more about LOCATION
in #5 or #6.

This is an extremely interesting topic...and Ben Davidson
is SO IMPRESSED (in his December 2018 video posted above)
that he places the research of Dr. Douglas Voyt as an
EQUAL IF NOT SUPERIOR to that of Immanuel Velikovsky (who
is considered a genius by many.)

GREAT TOPIC, OP. THANK YOU!

five stars

O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


He's trying to explain survival details from +10,000 years ago? It's anyone's guess how they lucked out.

Yes, some will survive. But its going to be a 1 in a billion chance.

The high energy atomic particles must have affected the survivors brains as well. Since we retained no knowledge of how that civilization cut/moved the huge megalith/stone structures using advanced tech. All this predating the Sumerians/Egyptians by 5 thousand years.
 Quoting: USCrusader_1


Well...Your point about it "predating the Sumerians/
Egyptians by 5 thousand years" is a red flag in part
of Dr. Voyt's disclosure...THAT BEING...the various
disciplines which have cooperated with this "suppression
of solar information since the 50's--and probably before
that" will shake up the various "experts" on DATING
THINGS!

The Egyptians must have gone back to the 9,500 b.c. timeline
for the whole thing to make any sense, and if you will
watch the video by Ben Davidson in his interview with
archeologist Robert Schoch on page 1...you'll hear him tell
that the whole Egyptian dating system is in question now.
(Remember...it is the Vatican who originally began the
whole science of Egyptology back in the 1500s and it is
THEIR TIMELINE...not necessarily the REAL TIMELINE that
suits their own agenda.)

Here is that video. Ben does a great job giving an
easy to follow summary of Voyt's video. (By the way,
in today's video Ben Davidson reports he is in the process
of making a couple MORE VIDEOS ON VOYT since they had an
interview with this guy last weekend.)


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Includes a clip from Dr. Robert Shoch who explains
WHY Egyptology is so "OFF" in their dating timeline.


There is a great deal of "big shake-ups" coming to the
various disciplines if the public FINALLY EMBRACES the
truth about Earth's real history...and everyone is really
worried about having to go back to the drawing-board on
dates!

cheers
O'sCookie

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It definitely resonates with me. It starts to make sense of things like the Mayan Calendar (long count), the Cross at Hendaye, the Georgia Guidestones, DIA, the push to get underground. Antarctica, and so much more...

And seems to me the only ones to survive will be at the poles or deep in caves like Iquitos, Peru...
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Some will survive, we just don’t know who. Civilation will go on.
 Quoting: Dee49


Though Dr. Voyt in the first video in OP's introduction
does NOT emphasize this statement--you need to listen very
carefully for it--Voyt makes the statement that SOME
PEOPLE CAN SURVIVE THIS...(I believe it is close to the
end of Part #4--the first video above when he says this.)

He then makes the caveat...and IMPORTANT POINT...
"...It will depend on WHERE YOU ARE ON THE PLANET when
this thing hits."


So...sadly, if you embrace Dr. Voyt's information,
"prepping" is not going to buy you any insurance. According
to what Dr. Voyt says is that we need to BE VERY AWARE OF WHERE WE ARE at the time this happens!!

Dr. V. said the last "focal point was in India" and Egypt
for this event--being evident by certain types of
"glass" left on the ground which is actually blasted out
parts of the sun's shell during a micro-nova (as Ben
Davidson from Suspicious Observer's video) calls it.
He DOES NOT say where researchers believe the "NEXT EVENT"
WILL TAKE PLACE which would be survivable.

He promises to go into greater detail in one of his
later videos (the one I watched on Page 1 paragraph 1 is
from #4...I'm assuming he will tell us more about LOCATION
in #5 or #6.

This is an extremely interesting topic...and Ben Davidson
is SO IMPRESSED (in his December 2018 video posted above)
that he places the research of Dr. Douglas Voyt as an
EQUAL IF NOT SUPERIOR to that of Immanuel Velikovsky (who
is considered a genius by many.)

GREAT TOPIC, OP. THANK YOU!

five stars

O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


He's trying to explain survival details from +10,000 years ago? It's anyone's guess how they lucked out.

Yes, some will survive. But its going to be a 1 in a billion chance.

The high energy atomic particles must have affected the survivors brains as well. Since we retained no knowledge of how that civilization cut/moved the huge megalith/stone structures using advanced tech. All this predating the Sumerians/Egyptians by 5 thousand years.
 Quoting: USCrusader_1


Well...Your point about it "predating the Sumerians/
Egyptians by 5 thousand years" is a red flag in part
of Dr. Voyt's disclosure...THAT BEING...the various
disciplines which have cooperated with this "suppression
of solar information since the 50's--and probably before
that" will shake up the various "experts" on DATING
THINGS!

The Egyptians must have gone back to the 9,500 b.c. timeline
for the whole thing to make any sense, and if you will
watch the video by Ben Davidson in his interview with
archeologist Robert Schoch on page 1...you'll hear him tell
that the whole Egyptian dating system is in question now.
(Remember...it is the Vatican who originally began the
whole science of Egyptology back in the 1500s and it is
THEIR TIMELINE...not necessarily the REAL TIMELINE that
suits their own agenda.)

Here is that video. Ben does a great job giving an
easy to follow summary of Voyt's video. (By the way,
in today's video Ben Davidson reports he is in the process
of making a couple MORE VIDEOS ON VOYT since they had an
interview with this guy last weekend.)


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Includes a clip from Dr. Robert Shoch who explains
WHY Egyptology is so "OFF" in their dating timeline.


There is a great deal of "big shake-ups" coming to the
various disciplines if the public FINALLY EMBRACES the
truth about Earth's real history...and everyone is really
worried about having to go back to the drawing-board on
dates!

cheers
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


I like how Ben is so articulate. He makes it easier to understand for those with no/little knowledge of physics, astronomy, etc...
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by far the most important thread on GLP in quite a while...
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I wonder if OP even saw how it took off? I should PM him.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s nothing anyone can do to prepare for this.
 Quoting: _Enigma_


Not at all, because a Nova would totally obliterate the earth completely, as well as everything else in the solar system, possibly, including the Sun itself, because that's what novas do and are: the star exploding!

chuckle
 Quoting: Now Then..


apparently you didn't watch the videos.

what happens when the sun goes nova?

i believe that the sun rids itself of the material deposited into the sun from the comets, that fall into it, on a clock cycle of 12,600 years.
 Quoting: OwlTalking


I only watched enough to get a feel for how I felt about the gentleman's theory, so you are right - and I did mention this earlier, asking people to explain this.

Because what you describe is not a nova. A nova is a very specific thing (actually that involves a binary system), so I am still waiting to find out all about it, without having to waste my time watching videos. A nova is end game - no more sun.
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by far the most important thread on GLP in quite a while...
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I wonder if OP even saw how it took off? I should PM him.
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I did see. There are much more things that can be associated with this phenomena that haven't even been mentioned here.
The Caves under Turkey that get up to Great Britain.
This is the big "Circle of Life", they also know how it will be this time and how much it will affect Earth. The big problem is the timing that can only be estimated because we don't know the exact date of the last time it happened.
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What about all of the archeological evidence of people living quite normally during these periods, out in the open?

12,000 isn't very long ago! Wouldn't that all have gotten wiped out? Where did all the animals come from? Did space aliens create an Ark for them?
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s nothing anyone can do to prepare for this.
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Not at all, because a Nova would totally obliterate the earth completely, as well as everything else in the solar system, possibly, including the Sun itself, because that's what novas do and are: the star exploding!

chuckle
 Quoting: Now Then..


apparently you didn't watch the videos.

what happens when the sun goes nova?

i believe that the sun rids itself of the material deposited into the sun from the comets, that fall into it, on a clock cycle of 12,600 years.
 Quoting: OwlTalking


I only watched enough to get a feel for how I felt about the gentleman's theory, so you are right - and I did mention this earlier, asking people to explain this.

Because what you describe is not a nova. A nova is a very specific thing (actually that involves a binary system), so I am still waiting to find out all about it, without having to waste my time watching videos. A nova is end game - no more sun.
 Quoting: Now Then..


micro-nova
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Not at all, because a Nova would totally obliterate the earth completely, as well as everything else in the solar system, possibly, including the Sun itself, because that's what novas do and are: the star exploding!

chuckle
 Quoting: Now Then..


My point. Thank you.
 Quoting: _Enigma_


As an engineer with some scientific training, a couple of things bother me about this hypothesis:

1. The exact regularity. Most processes in nature are fairly chaotic. Many are cyclical, but they do not happen on exact schedules. For example, the solar cycle of sunspots is about 11 years, but varies.

2. The idea of the crust of the Earth stopping rotation and then going backwards seems absurd. The amount of heat energy released would probably MELT the crust, and we see no geological evidence that this has ever happened.

Color me skeptical.
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what about the many layers of rock folding displayed at the Delaware Water Gap?
 Quoting: OwlTalking


Well, I am an engineer, not a geologist.

I did not calculate the amount of energy released if the crust of the Earth, which is rotating at 1000 mph at the equator, quickly stopped and reversed, but it is ENORMOUS. In fact, I would be surprised if that amount of energy would not melt the crust.

As others have pointed out, if these catastrophes had occurred, we would see a lot more physical evidence. For instance, humans would have been wiped out worldwide.

Still skeptical.
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What about all of the archeological evidence of people living quite normally during these periods, out in the open?

12,000 isn't very long ago! Wouldn't that all have gotten wiped out? Where did all the animals come from? Did space aliens create an Ark for them?
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fisher

The river Hiddekel is representative of the Hiddekelic, or Second, race and age, and it corresponds with the second seal of the vision of St. John. The people of this age were red in color, as indicated in Rev. vi. 3, 4; Lam. iv. 7; Zech. vi. 1; Song of Sol. iv. 12-14; and, as a race, is called the Hiddekelic, from the river Hiddekel. It was created about the year B.C. 23,017, and perished by famine about the year B.C. 12,098.

Like I said - think AGES and it becomes clear. thumbs
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What about all of the archeological evidence of people living quite normally during these periods, out in the open?

12,000 isn't very long ago! Wouldn't that all have gotten wiped out? Where did all the animals come from? Did space aliens create an Ark for them?
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fisher

The river Hiddekel is representative of the Hiddekelic, or Second, race and age, and it corresponds with the second seal of the vision of St. John. The people of this age were red in color, as indicated in Rev. vi. 3, 4; Lam. iv. 7; Zech. vi. 1; Song of Sol. iv. 12-14; and, as a race, is called the Hiddekelic, from the river Hiddekel. It was created about the year B.C. 23,017, and perished by famine about the year B.C. 12,098.

Like I said - think AGES and it becomes clear. thumbs
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The 7 seals are about your interface with reality, the place where your consciousness meets God's Light, so to speak.

I am all for Ages, but I believe in trillion year old ages, cycles of universe, you know?

What you described can't fit with this nova theory, where, from what I gleaned from what people have posted about the video, most of the surface is toasted and only a minority survive somehow. Well! There is no global evidence of a disaster of this magnitude at all, and we're good enough that we can see global evidence of massive meteor strikes or supervolcano explosions from millions of years ago (for example)
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I can buy that the oceans have sloshed over the Continents at some point, due to the undersea canyons - but not regularly and not because of earths rotation reversing. It sure looks like this happened to N Africa and wiped out Atlantis as the Richat structure though. Maybe a close encounter with Niburu or whatever could do this.

I believe the evidence is overwhelming that the Universe is electrical, runs on Plasma currents and is most probably as a living organism in it's own right.

All stars probably have a mini Nova phase and all Galaxies are Sefert Galaxies (as in Galactic superwaves) - so yes it looks like we are in for some very strange cosmic shit to happen in our lifetimes.

Seems very likely the elites know about this and are hiding it from us, making sure that Physics, cosmology, Archeology, Geology are all on the wrong track - so they get to create huge black budget underground cities to survive in whilst most on the surface perish.
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All stars probably have a mini Nova phase and all Galaxies are Sefert Galaxies (as in Galactic superwaves) - so yes it looks like we are in for some very strange cosmic shit to happen in our lifetimes.

Seems very likely the elites know about this and are hiding it from us, making sure that Physics, cosmology, Archeology, Geology are all on the wrong track - so they get to create huge black budget underground cities to survive in whilst most on the surface perish.
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You know.. Basically, it just occurred to me.. this thread is the plot to the movie 2012, rehashed and reformatted.

Stars having some sort of mini-nova phase would be a pretty well known fact, as the stars in the sky are billions and billions in number, and such a change would have happened at some point on at least some of them, somewhere, causing obvious effects. Do we have a candidate unknown effect that might be this in action, in astrophysics?
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it is my understanding, after having re-establishing a symbiotic relationship with Nature, that it was designed to sustain Life - ETERNALLY ... and has done so, despite all the challenges, for millions of years

I trust that it can handle this challenge too
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Sure it can...and in a few thousand years from now new civilizations will have risen...
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Somebody needs to make sure the 30 females surviving this time won't be SJWs, feminists, leftists or liberals...
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The latter ie. SJWs etc pretty much precludes the former, namely "surviving".
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He's trying to explain survival details from +10,000 years ago? It's anyone's guess how they lucked out.

Yes, some will survive. But its going to be a 1 in a billion chance.

The high energy atomic particles must have affected the survivors brains as well. Since we retained no knowledge of how that civilization cut/moved the huge megalith/stone structures using advanced tech. All this predating the Sumerians/Egyptians by 5 thousand years.

 Quoting: USCrusader_1


Well we don't really know what went up in smoke when Rome torched the Library of Alexandria, nor understand the full extent of what's hidden down in the Vatican (and/or wherever else they have the good stuff squirreled away.
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...There is no global evidence of a disaster of this magnitude at all, and we're good enough that we can see global evidence of massive meteor strikes or supervolcano explosions from millions of years ago (for example)
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fisher

nano-diamonds and bubble free green glass
Have been found all over....

“Gobekli Tepe - this, I believe, is a question that ties in with the end of the last ice age and I believe as a geologist there were catastrophic things happening on Earth. I believe the dramatic warming and the glaciers melting tied in with major rains, major floods. I believe there were earthquakes and volcanic activity that would have been set off at least in part by the release of pressure when glaciers melted at higher latitudes. But I think this all ties back ultimately to solar outbursts – that the sun at that time underwent a series of major solar outbursts unlike anything we have seen in historic times." Robert M. Schoch, Ph.D., Professor of Geology, Boston University, Boston, Massachusetts


“Many of these animals appear to go out 12,900 years ago after a preceding and catastrophic event. In fact, this stratum of nanodiamonds – the sediments containing these nanodiamonds – in some cases sit directly above the bones of these extinct animals. These animal bones do not occur above the sedimentary layers in well-stratified sections.

“Nanodiamonds only form under very high temperatures and pressures consistent with a major cosmic impact event. It’s very hard to explain their presence in these sediments just based on other kinds of surficial processes. And, of course, increased temperatures and pressures would have had major repercussions for the environment in North America, including vegetation and animals and humans that were on the landscape at the time.

“The destruction would have been instantaneous. People living in the immediate vicinity of impact or airbursts would pretty much have been annihilated. And where the impacts and airbursts would have occurred, there would have been a lot of debris kicked up into the atmosphere. And I can imagine there would have been major sound – even hard to imagine the senses that would have been involved in all this. Also, the wildfires triggered by all this would have put smoke and soot up into the atmosphere that would also have had major atmospheric effects in terms of obscuring the sun for fairly long periods of time.”
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Back in 2012, this was posted:
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It goes deep sheeple - be ready.

As I have discussed elsewhere*, the indigenous Easter Island rongorongo script may record a major plasma event in the skies thousands of years ago, at the end of the last ice age. Plasma consists of electrically charged particles. Familiar plasma phenomena on Earth today include lightning and auroras, the northern and southern lights.

In the past, much more powerful plasma events may have taken place, perhaps due to coronal mass ejections from the Sun or emissions from other celestial objects. Powerful plasma phenomena could cause strong electrical discharges to hit Earth, burning and incinerating materials on the planet’s surface.
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* Robert M. Schoch, "An Ancient Warning, A Global Message, From the End of the Last Ice Age" , New Dawn 121, 15-22 (July-August 2010)

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What about all of the archeological evidence of people living quite normally during these periods, out in the open?

12,000 isn't very long ago! Wouldn't that all have gotten wiped out? Where did all the animals come from? Did space aliens create an Ark for them?
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Well, I am an engineer, not a geologist.
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As others have pointed out, if these catastrophes had occurred, we would see a lot more physical evidence. For instance, humans would have been wiped out worldwide.

Still skeptical.
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most of the surface is toasted and only a minority survive somehow. Well! There is no global evidence of a disaster of this magnitude at all, and we're good enough that we can see global evidence of massive meteor strikes or supervolcano explosions from millions of years ago (for example)
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Ancient megalithic building blocks measuring +1000 tons or more cut with high technology equipment and moved 100's of miles from quarry to the build sites are found worldwide.

These blocks are granite and world wide all similarly have the east facing surfaces melted. These blocks predate known civilizations and are +10-12,000 years old.

From this evidence I doubt the earth was standing still during the last cataclysmic CME because of that - maybe a slower rotation.

Even 1 rotisserie earth rotation at 2500F degrees and the DNA shredding from the (Nova)CME atomic particles would leave little to tell the story.
Those particles are detected more than 2 miles in the earth(where the sensors are) so 'digging in' would be a project.

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NOW, I know why Bezos is building the 10,000 Clock in a Mountain - his own personal Gobekli Tepe... Smack right in our faces - amazing.

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What about all of the archeological evidence of people living quite normally during these periods, out in the open?

12,000 isn't very long ago! Wouldn't that all have gotten wiped out? Where did all the animals come from? Did space aliens create an Ark for them?
 Quoting: Now Then..


Well, I am an engineer, not a geologist.
...
As others have pointed out, if these catastrophes had occurred, we would see a lot more physical evidence. For instance, humans would have been wiped out worldwide.

Still skeptical.
 Quoting: darth


...
most of the surface is toasted and only a minority survive somehow. Well! There is no global evidence of a disaster of this magnitude at all, and we're good enough that we can see global evidence of massive meteor strikes or supervolcano explosions from millions of years ago (for example)
 Quoting: Really Now



Ancient megalithic building blocks measuring +1000 tons or more cut with high technology equipment and moved 100's of miles from quarry to the build sites are found worldwide.

These blocks are granite and world wide all similarly have the east facing surfaces melted. These blocks predate known civilizations and are +10-12,000 years old.

From this evidence I doubt the earth was standing still during the last cataclysmic CME because of that - maybe a slower rotation.

Even 1 rotisserie earth rotation at 2500F degrees and the DNA shredding from the (Nova)CME atomic particles would leave little to tell the story.
Those particles are detected more than 2 miles in the earth(where the sensors are) so 'digging in' would be a project.
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One more possibility. I actually studied large asteroid strikes such as the KT Impact when I was an aerospace engineer. There were government funds to study the risk of impacts.

One popular hypothesis is that there is a large body out in the Oort Cloud that disrupts the orbits of icy bodies and sends them falling into the inner Solar System. Note that far from the Sun, it takes very little energy to put such a body into a parabolic orbit such as we see from comets.

There seems to be a periodicity to impacts. KT was about 65M years ago while there was another bombardment of Earth about 33M years ago.

If may be possible that very large objects such as a gas giant could be sent sunward on such a parabolic orbit. What would occur if such a large object hit the Sun as many comets do? Perhaps that could explain the evidence of rocks melting as the heat blast from the impact hit Earth.

BTW, you may note that we about due for another era of impacts, give or take a million years or so.

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NOW, I know why Bezos is building the 10,000 Clock in a Mountain - his own personal Gobekli Tepe... Smack right in our faces - amazing.

[link to www.10000yearclock.net (secure)]

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that is a clever thought





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