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The Sphinx aligns to the rising sun in the age of Leo. Was this structure built during the age of Leo or in another time and is a textbook of an event that maybe occurred in the age of Leo? The “experts” tell us it was built around 5,000-10,000 B.C. The last Age of Leo was around 11,000 B.C.

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boss

"Built by the Hiddekelic Race 13,465 B.C. to 12,098 B.C."

You should read the linked story "Out of Egypt" also.

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ICE AGE


Electric planet changes




Solar minimum
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ICE AGE


Electric planet changes




Solar minimum
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Acording to the Planet Positions we're basically fvcked, moreover, in April gets very accelerated

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Anyone feeling strange...upset tums, headaches, the feeling
you are "buzzing?"

Well...You are not alone (I'm right on-board with ya!) as
we are seeing some kind of COSMIC RAY "ANOMALY" with
a consistent (not-ending) gamma ray DETECTION at the
Antarctic field station. Here is the link:
[link to earthboppin.net (secure)]

This could be an "energetic" part of Ben Daivdon's
interstellar "current sheet" he speaks of our solar system
crossing every 12,000 years.

Or it could even be the "leading edge" of the Galactic Super Wave
which Dr. Paul Laviolette spoke about arriving to our
solar system starting in 2007 (and INCREASING IN STRENGTH)
possibly to the point of triggering the sun.

Either way...It is uncomfortable physically--but at least
you KNOW it isn't COVID symptoms and it IS NOT YOUR IMAGINATION.

Ben Davidson posted this chart on his webpage months ago
with your getting an idea of how increasing cosmic ray
or solar energies can impact our bodies. I was able to
get the cosmic ray detection article from "Earthboppin
skywatchers" (linked above) where they do a fair job
of tracking gamma ray bursts and solar activity.

:CosmicRAhealth:

Be safe everyone...NO FEAR. (Thanks Ben!)


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Special HAT-TIP to "CleverCreator" who provided this
MARCH 16 2021 NEW VIDEO from Douglas Vogt this A.M.
THIS VIDEO IS ONLY 7 HOURS "FRESH!"


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE

Talks about SPECIFICS of what kind of "cave system"
would be ideal to survive the Solar Micro-Nova on
either side of the earth (fire on one side/water and
ice on the other side)...At least they are trying to
figure this out.

Vogt mentions right up front that TPTB have spent
an ESTIMATED $23 TRILLION over the past 50 to 60 years
to build underground tunnel systems...(How many "stimulus
checks for struggling families WOULD THAT pay for?)

Many of these "survival tunnels" claims Vogt, will pretty
much be "DEATH TRAPS" AND WILL NOT WORK!

So, If you have your "ticket punched" already for one of
these tunnels...WATCH THIS VIDEO before you take your
seat! lol!

Here is the YouTube link to ALL OF VOGT'S PRESENTATIONS:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


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This is the link to find all of Doug Vogt's videos.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

He makes a "special suggestion" at the ending of his
most recent video that he wants people coming into this
material for the first time to--as he says:

"Please WATCH all of video series 4."


Those videos are 1/4 the way down the list at the
link below and are the ones that are colored gray.

I was a little bummed by the latest video he has put
out because he pretty much says that we will need a
large number of people working together cooperatively
to "survive this thing." (Below is his latest video:)

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE

That pretty much leaves the lone individual with his/her
survival skills out of the loop as well as the famous
U.S. "nuclear family." Vogt talks about pretty sophisticated
cave systems--many in locations that are "idea" not in
the continental U.S.A. Heck, he even reports that Ben
Davidson's Colorado location and even Arizona and New Mexico
are not the best choices for riding this thing out. (In fact,
I was surprised to hear him say that Colorado as the "go to
place" for your best chance at surviving the event was
actually a DISINFORMATION "plant" and not correct!

I was surprised to see the graphic that shows HOW NARROW
A LAND AREA the actual "HOT SPOT" for the worst of the
Solar Micro-nova event he anticipates it being. (It is NOT
1/2 the Earth like you might imagine from watching the
videos. I think THAT graphic alone is worth watching the
whole video. He does mention which previous videos that
talk about what land areas get the main heat, then the
area that gets the dust shell and then the area that is
most likely the "instant ice age." So watch for that.

Anyways...Doug lets us know in this latest video, too,
that he is studying the "Adam and Eve" material (there
are a couple of threads already on this C.I.A. declassified
document about the coming solar micro-nova if you wish to
find out about what this is before Vogt's next video.)
That should be really interesting and I'm going to be
watching for THAT ONE!

That's all I've got for now. I recommend you watch this
newest video.

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Bump
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Forget the red or the blue pill. Take the Gold Elixir.

“How can there be a God, when there is nothing but God.” - Laozi


“Naturalness is called the Way. The Way has no name or form; it is just essence, just the primal spirit.” - The Secret of the Golden Flower.
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Happy Easter Week, everyone!

:birdieWflowers:

Please VOTE on which of the 3 threads I've present in my newest thread
(link below) you believe is the "Greatest Secret the U.S.A. has today"
--even with all the information from Vogt, Davidson and others on the
solar micro-nova clock cycle--is THIS the "greatest secret the U.S. has today?"

Note:
The 3-secrets I picked were NOT all my own threads
and, in fact, I don't even agree much with ONE
of the 3...but seems like since we can HEAR for
ourselves from Dr. Vogt that he believes the
SOLAR MICRO-NOVA CLOCK CYCLE IS the U.S.A.'s "greatest secret"
(sourced from the Torah) seems like we need to have a
discussion on his and OTHER theories as well!

Hear Dr. Vogt say this HIMSELF at the 1:11 min mark
in the introduction video from our thread host "Adragon:"


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
FF to the 1:11 min mark in Dr. Vogt's
introduction to his topic and you will
hear him say: "There is NO greater SECRET
than this...and you'll find out WHY THEY
HID IT FROM YOU."


Douglas Vogt states this clearly in the first 5 minutes
of his introduction video (page 1 Post 1)...THERE IS
NO GREATER SECRET. (I'm just curious if the GLP community
would vote this as the greatest secret.) I think we'll
have a lively discussion and some "brain-storming"
*(which I always look forward to doing!) Please join me!
By the way, if you miss the discussion on 3-29-2021...please
feel free to ADD YOUR COMMENTS or your ideas about what
OTHER "greatest secrets the U.S.A. has (as of 3-2021) as
I will check back into the thread to read other "takes"
on this. Thanks!

Here is the link:
Thread: Which of these 3 thread topics do you consider the U.S.A.'s greatest secret? Vote in a post: #1,2,or 3!

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wow

Hey! Adragon...you gotta see this one!

And...if you have been following this thread like the
other 90,000 viewers have been (that's alot! Good Job, OP!)
...you MUST see this update from Ben Davidson today
(S.O.)


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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His report about the science journal paper that their
use of a dating technique (which Ben debunks) shows that
1/2 million years ago a "PLASMA BURST" from a meteorite
(yeah, right..."plasma burst" from a meteorite--THAT'S
A NEW ONE!) left those "glass beads" over the Arctic!

Ben also shows that there is more than enough proof that
this was related to a solar micro-nova--AND NOT 1/2 MILLION
YEARS AGO (since the dating technique has already been
proven to be inaccurate in other papers)--and that it was
most likely from the last solar micro-nova (12,000 years
ago--fairly close in geologic history.)

Then he goes on to make the statement that really
blew me away! He says Major White reported that the
arctic WAS AT THE EQUATOR when the "events" surrounding
the last solar micro-nova happened--which is what Ben
believes was the case with the "artifacts" one would be
looking for if you were searching for evidence of a
solar micro-nova (like COAL AT THE SURFACE right there in plain sight)

Happy Easter!

cheers
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"Read this book ASAP"

An Explication of the Chief Geological Phenomena of the Globe by Proofs of Periodical Changes of the Earth's Axis. Embracing a Theory, founded on Geographical Facts, on the True Geological Formation of Carboniferous Mineral.

COAL

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You guys should be looking at this is very serious and totally cientific





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Its Long but says basically the ICE age is here and the NOVAs are about to happen.

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Hi Cliff, any sumarry notes?
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In the last of Vogt's videos he spends some time discussing the ideal survival locations (equator +/- 15 degrees) and survival structures.

True that at the equator is moving about one thousand miles per hour. What Vogt fails to note is that at the north and south poles the rotational speed is much less.

Perhaps the best place to survive tsunami floods is the Antarctic. Perhaps an ocean going vessel hauled inland to one of those dry valleys would be a good choice.

Remember the Hapgood theory of continental masses moving from the offset loads imposed by glaciers... The Antarctic might end up located twenty degrees north (or more). An ocean going boat set up for survival would offer options not available to anyone sitting in a cave.

Other than a sailboat, the other choice might be an ocean going flat bottom barge. That type vessel can haul a couple hundred tons of material and they are very strong.

The last Vogt video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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In the last of Vogt's videos he spends some time discussing the ideal survival locations (equator +/- 15 degrees) and survival structures.

True that at the equator is moving about one thousand miles per hour. What Vogt fails to note is that at the north and south poles the rotational speed is much less.

Perhaps the best place to survive tsunami floods is the Antarctic. Perhaps an ocean going vessel hauled inland to one of those dry valleys would be a good choice.

Remember the Hapgood theory of continental masses moving from the offset loads imposed by glaciers... The Antarctic might end up located twenty degrees north (or more). An ocean going boat set up for survival would offer options not available to anyone sitting in a cave.

Other than a sailboat, the other choice might be an ocean going flat bottom barge. That type vessel can haul a couple hundred tons of material and they are very strong.

The last Vogt video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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Interesting ideas, AC5976...I'm betting on inland U.S.
1,000 miles in high altitude with access to either spent
mines or underground tunnels (not DUMBS)...I'm in
NW Montana.

Here is a picture Ben Davidson posted last week with
one of his daily reports. It shows the mouth of a
HIGH ALTITUDE CAVE (not sure where this is located--he
is currently in Colorado.)

:SmartTibetspot:

Davidson has done research on "survivors" from past
civilizations who got through their "solar micro-nova event"
alive (but thrown back into the cave age temporarily)
and most were in cave systems at higher altitudes. This
one talks about the oceans/coastlines, etc.


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Doug Vogt begins to talk about the oceans and
the "Great Flood" at the 18:50 min mark in the
video above.


All the videos so far can be found at DieholdFoundation
at this link (there are currently 14 listed Vogt videos
on this topic--they are the ones in blue/grey mid-page:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

If you watch the entire series from Vogt's Diehold Foundation
YouTube site on the topic you will get a much better
grasp of what IS and what IS NOT a "survivable location."
And...even THAT is speculation since from what I have watched
in my first and 2nd pass on all of Vogt's videos is
we don't have an ACCURATE HANDLE ON WHICH IS SUN-FACING
and which is DUST-SHELL IMPACT FACING spots on the Earth's
surface when all of this goes down. Certainly a wood
sailboat on the SUN FACING SIDE during the solar micro-nova
will do very little to assist in your survival. This is why
there is a HUGE BLACK BAND OF ASH/BURNED ORGANIC MATTER
in the ice core samples.

I'm thinking I wouldn't be keen on Antarctica just because
of the tsunami/wind problem. You wouldn't be protected in
a sailboat or barge in those scenarios. Doug Vogt talks
about that in a couple of his videos. One about the
coastlines and tsunamis was pretty scary. You do NOT
want to be anywhere NEAR a coastline during this event
--including on a boat...but that's just me! UDECIDE!

Just sayin!

mRNAhurricane

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Added a paragraph as an after-thought...given that the
A.C. posting was talking about surviving in a wooden
sailboat near Antarctica during the solar micro-nova.

Um...No.

SquirrelyNO

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In the last of Vogt's videos he spends some time discussing the ideal survival locations (equator +/- 15 degrees) and survival structures.

True that at the equator is moving about one thousand miles per hour. What Vogt fails to note is that at the north and south poles the rotational speed is much less.

Perhaps the best place to survive tsunami floods is the Antarctic. Perhaps an ocean going vessel hauled inland to one of those dry valleys would be a good choice.

Remember the Hapgood theory of continental masses moving from the offset loads imposed by glaciers... The Antarctic might end up located twenty degrees north (or more). An ocean going boat set up for survival would offer options not available to anyone sitting in a cave.

Other than a sailboat, the other choice might be an ocean going flat bottom barge. That type vessel can haul a couple hundred tons of material and they are very strong.

The last Vogt video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80155976


Interesting ideas, AC5976...I'm betting on inland U.S.
1,000 miles in high altitude with access to either spent
mines or underground tunnels (not DUMBS)...I'm in
NW Montana.

Here is a picture Ben Davidson posted last week with
one of his daily reports. It shows the mouth of a
HIGH ALTITUDE CAVE (not sure where this is located--he
is currently in Colorado.)

:SmartTibetspot:

Davidson has done research on "survivors" from past
civilizations who got through their "solar micro-nova event"
alive (but thrown back into the cave age temporarily)
and most were in cave systems at higher altitudes. This
one talks about the oceans/coastlines, etc.


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Doug Vogt begins to talk about the oceans and
the "Great Flood" at the 18:50 min mark in the
video above.


All the videos so far can be found at DieholdFoundation
dot com.

If you watch the entire series from Vogt's Diehold Foundation
YouTube site on the topic you will get a much better
grasp of what IS and what IS NOT a "survivable location."
And...even THAT is speculation since from what I have watched
in my first and 2nd pass on all of Vogt's videos is
we don't have an ACCURATE HANDLE ON WHICH IS SUN-FACING
and which is DUST-SHELL IMPACT FACING spots on the Earth's
surface when all of this goes down. Certainly a wood
sailboat on the SUN FACING SIDE during the solar micro-nova
will do very little to assist in your survival. This is why
there is a HUGE BLACK BAND OF ASH/BURNED ORGANIC MATTER
in the ice core samples.

I'm thinking I wouldn't be keen on Antarctica just because
of the tsunami/wind problem. You wouldn't be protected in
a sailboat or barge in those scenarios. Doug Vogt talks
about that in a couple of his videos. One about the
coastlines and tsunamis was pretty scary. You do NOT
want to be anywhere NEAR a coastline during this event
--including on a boat...but that's just me! UDECIDE!

Just sayin!

mRNAhurricane

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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@ Oracle's Cookie.

My Antarctic suggestion came from the idea that at the poles the water is rotating in a circle. So, if the planet stopped rotating and tried to reverse the ocean water would effectively be flowing sideways to the shoreline.

Tsunami effects would likely be minimal. You would not want to be anywhere near the straits of Magellan (between Antarctic and South America)

The dry valleys of Antarctic lie more toward South Africa. I have zero idea at the moment of the topography of that area.
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McMurdo Dry Valleys.

A search reveals several topographic maps.

Water flows out of these valleys about two months of the year.

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@ Oracle's Cookie.

My Antarctic suggestion came from the idea that at the poles the water is rotating in a circle. So, if the planet stopped rotating and tried to reverse the ocean water would effectively be flowing sideways to the shoreline.

Tsunami effects would likely be minimal. You would not want to be anywhere near the straits of Magellan (between Antarctic and South America)

The dry valleys of Antarctic lie more toward South Africa. I have zero idea at the moment of the topography of that area.
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I still suggest to you that you watch the videos
provided to give you information "from the horse's mouth"
(Doug Vogt) which is the featured topic of this thread.

I'm assuming you haven't watched at least the one I
provided above or you probably wouldn't suggest trying
to weather the solar micro-nova event in the way you
are suggesting. You really can't grasp the GIGANTIC
EFFECTS of this event on surface areas of this planet
Vogt talks about.

When you say the phrase you mention in your post above:


My Antarctic suggestion came from the idea that at the poles the water is rotating in a circle. So, if the planet stopped rotating and tried to reverse the ocean water would effectively be flowing sideways to the shoreline.

Tsunami effects would likely be minimal. You would not want to be anywhere near the straits of Magellan (between Antarctic and South America)


So, while Vogt uses the term "...tsunami" when he talks
about the bulk of the water (several miles deep) sweeping
over the continents during a rotation stoppage...you
aren't dealing with a "tsunami" such as we have seen
in Sumatra or Japan. This kind of "water event" is EPIC
and boats of any kind would fair very poorly.

My suggestion....Watch the videos.

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Forget the Antarctic. Too damned cold and the fly fishing along the Onyx river is non-existent.

[link to methods.sciencefriday.com (secure)]

How about moving to northern Siberia and learning how to survive like a reindeer herdsman? You can always travel to a small village and get some vodka.
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I am a retired aerospace engineer.

When I first heard of this idea, I was extremely skeptical. The amount of rotational energy involved in moving the crust of the Earth is so enormous that it seemed impossible to me that it could occur.

Yet, the evidence is interesting to say the least.

I especially appreciate Ben Davidson's input on this subject.

OP and others, thanks for keeping this subject alive. If these guys are even partly right, we are facing an unimaginable cataclysm.

The evidence that the government KNOWS about this possibility and has planned for it is even more interesting. As many have noted, the profligate spending, missing trillions, etc. may indicate that preparations are underway.

However, as others have also noted, I don't think the peasants are included in TPTB plans.

It's up to us to individually survive.

I see that Ben has a ranch on the East side of the Rockies that he wants to develop into a shelter system.

I am thinking the same thing.

So, I am studying the videos and the plans of others.

This is right up there with Giant Asteroid as an event that could wipe out our civ if not our species.

Sure would be nice if we had those colonies on Luna and out in the Main Belt about now!

Ad astra
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This video tells us that #7 is on HIS LIST for the
scariest scientific things that COULD HAPPEN...THE SUN.
(He doesn't mention Vogt's Clock Cycle--but could be that
he hasn't heard about it yet. This was published 2019.)



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Mentions the SUN as on his list at 6:00 min mark.

His FIRST MATCH talks about a "zombie apocalypse" with
report about the UK beef emergency about CJD caused by
brain-eating "prions" from infected burgers. Sadly, I've
read that some scientists are CONCERNED ABOUT CJD-LIKE
DISEASE as a result of the mRNA in current VACCINES!
(He doesn't mention the vaccines...but you can connect
the dots since this came out BEFORE the mRNA vaxes.)

GoodLuckWthat

This guy has a YouTube channel with other stuff too...
like 10 amazing facts about Sigmund Freud.

Interesting!

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I have not watched the entire Diehold series, but I got the gist of what he is saying.

Vogt has made a number of engineering judgements which I would class as opinions at this point.

For example, he insists on putting shelters close to the equator to avoid the glaciers.

Fine, but the miles deep water sweeping over that region seems to be an almost insurmountable problem for survival.

An underground bunker built to withstand MILES of water overhead is a very tall order.

I think that Ben Davidson's idea of being at high altitude East of the Rockies is a more prudent choice.

Sure, you will face trekking across miles of snow to get to a lower latitude, but avoiding snow and ice is moot if you get crushed or drowned first!

The reliance on the Torah reminds me of my friends who search for hidden, coded messages in the Bible.

Did The Almighty put survival instructions in the Book? Perhaps, but I think He would expect us to use our brains as well.

I realized that we are actually looking at several different survival challenges, which may or may not be related:

-Polar flip

-Planet wide rotation reversal

-Cosmic ray or radiation bombardment

-Solar micro nova

-Plasma discharges

The ones that seem to have the most solid evidence are the micro nova, since we found the glass on the surface of Luna, and the plasma discharges which blasted the surface of the Earth.

I am still skeptical that the Earth will reverse rotation because the amount of energy is so incredible.

Let us continue the discussion.
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I have not watched the entire Diehold series, but I got the gist of what he is saying.

Vogt has made a number of engineering judgements which I would class as opinions at this point.

For example, he insists on putting shelters close to the equator to avoid the glaciers.

Fine, but the miles deep water sweeping over that region seems to be an almost insurmountable problem for survival.

An underground bunker built to withstand MILES of water overhead is a very tall order.

I think that Ben Davidson's idea of being at high altitude East of the Rockies is a more prudent choice.

Sure, you will face trekking across miles of snow to get to a lower latitude, but avoiding snow and ice is moot if you get crushed or drowned first!

The reliance on the Torah reminds me of my friends who search for hidden, coded messages in the Bible.

Did The Almighty put survival instructions in the Book? Perhaps, but I think He would expect us to use our brains as well.

I realized that we are actually looking at several different survival challenges, which may or may not be related:

-Polar flip

-Planet wide rotation reversal

-Cosmic ray or radiation bombardment

-Solar micro nova

-Plasma discharges

The ones that seem to have the most solid evidence are the micro nova, since we found the glass on the surface of Luna, and the plasma discharges which blasted the surface of the Earth.

I am still skeptical that the Earth will reverse rotation because the amount of energy is so incredible.

Let us continue the discussion.
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An absolute nonsense:

[link to www.syfy.com (secure)]
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I have not watched the entire Diehold series, but I got the gist of what he is saying.

Vogt has made a number of engineering judgements which I would class as opinions at this point.

For example, he insists on putting shelters close to the equator to avoid the glaciers.

Fine, but the miles deep water sweeping over that region seems to be an almost insurmountable problem for survival.

An underground bunker built to withstand MILES of water overhead is a very tall order.

I think that Ben Davidson's idea of being at high altitude East of the Rockies is a more prudent choice.

Sure, you will face trekking across miles of snow to get to a lower latitude, but avoiding snow and ice is moot if you get crushed or drowned first!

The reliance on the Torah reminds me of my friends who search for hidden, coded messages in the Bible.

Did The Almighty put survival instructions in the Book? Perhaps, but I think He would expect us to use our brains as well.

I realized that we are actually looking at several different survival challenges, which may or may not be related:

-Polar flip

-Planet wide rotation reversal

-Cosmic ray or radiation bombardment

-Solar micro nova

-Plasma discharges

The ones that seem to have the most solid evidence are the micro nova, since we found the glass on the surface of Luna, and the plasma discharges which blasted the surface of the Earth.

I am still skeptical that the Earth will reverse rotation because the amount of energy is so incredible.

Let us continue the discussion.
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An absolute nonsense:

[link to www.syfy.com (secure)]
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That is one professional opinion.

My experience in working with scientists is that new ideas, especially radical ones, are always treated as nonsense initially.

However, as pointed out in Ben Davidson's videos and books, there ARE periodic micro novas in our galaxy that appear on a regular basis.

Some of those periodic explosions happen on a schedule like clockwork.

So, the phenomena DOES exist. Whether it happens to Sol is something to be proven.

As Davidson points out, the vitrification on the surface of Luna is pretty solid evidence that such a micro nova DID happen.

I remain open minded but skeptical, waiting for proof.
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OK, I read the syfy article. It lightly covers the conventional thinking about novas.

It also, rightly I think, criticizes Vogt's reliance on the Torah as a source of science.

However, the article did NOT address any of the real evidence that has been uncovered.

That article is "newsy" but not a serious debunking of the entire hypothesis.

BTW, ref the ancient documents, there are legends and warnings about great floods, periods of extended darkness, and the need to shelter in caves world wide. Some serious scientists note the similarity in those legends from almost every ancient culture.

They may be warnings from the distant past of civilization-ending events that were so traumatic that they felt the need to warn their descendants.
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I have not watched the entire Diehold series, but I got the gist of what he is saying.

Vogt has made a number of engineering judgements which I would class as opinions at this point.

For example, he insists on putting shelters close to the equator to avoid the glaciers.

Fine, but the miles deep water sweeping over that region seems to be an almost insurmountable problem for survival.

An underground bunker built to withstand MILES of water overhead is a very tall order.

I think that Ben Davidson's idea of being at high altitude East of the Rockies is a more prudent choice.

Sure, you will face trekking across miles of snow to get to a lower latitude, but avoiding snow and ice is moot if you get crushed or drowned first!

The reliance on the Torah reminds me of my friends who search for hidden, coded messages in the Bible.

Did The Almighty put survival instructions in the Book? Perhaps, but I think He would expect us to use our brains as well.

I realized that we are actually looking at several different survival challenges, which may or may not be related:

-Polar flip

-Planet wide rotation reversal

-Cosmic ray or radiation bombardment

-Solar micro nova

-Plasma discharges

The ones that seem to have the most solid evidence are the micro nova, since we found the glass on the surface of Luna, and the plasma discharges which blasted the surface of the Earth.

I am still skeptical that the Earth will reverse rotation because the amount of energy is so incredible.

Let us continue the discussion.
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I don't know what ADragon (the thread's host) thinks of
your post--but I feel it has some SUPER good points and
is very specific to my own thoughts on this topic.

If NASA sent the Apollo mission to specifically look for
these "glass beads" (from a solar micro-nova)...they MUST
HAVE ALREADY HAD A "HINKY" ABOUT THE PHENOMENON BEFOREHAND.

It's like already having the ANSWER to the question you
are asking--you're just needing more physical evidence
(which they got!)

It has been wonderful "brain-storming" ideas on this topic
since Adragon first posted the first Series 4 video from
Doug Vogt on Page 1 post 1 December 2018. Even more info
has been uncovered and I am inclined to back Vogt 100%
in his theory.

Thanks for your input. Hope Adragon addresses your post!

cheers
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If NASA sent the Apollo mission to specifically look for
these "glass beads" (from a solar micro-nova)...they MUST
HAVE ALREADY HAD A "HINKY" ABOUT THE PHENOMENON BEFOREHAND.

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boss

“They knew in 1872. One of my references:”

Report on the Scientific Results of the Voyage of H.M.S. Challenger, Parts 1&2 with Plates - John Murray - 1887
"Fiat Lux et Veritas"
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If NASA sent the Apollo mission to specifically look for
these "glass beads" (from a solar micro-nova)...they MUST
HAVE ALREADY HAD A "HINKY" ABOUT THE PHENOMENON BEFOREHAND.

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boss

“They knew in 1872. One of my references:”

Report on the Scientific Results of the Voyage of H.M.S. Challenger, Parts 1&2 with Plates - John Murray - 1887
 Quoting: Nemesis8


..."THEY KNEW IN 1872?"...

:socksOFFpug:
"...You make me FAINT with your post!"

Just to add one thing>>>

The original video on page 1 which GLP member "Adragon"
features for this thread has Doug Vogt stating that the
REASON he believed they went to the moon to locate the
glass bead evidence (that our sun has cycles of micro-nova)
...was BECAUSE THE SUN WENT OFF IN 1957 in such a "spectacular"
way that it freaked out scientists at that time.

If they already knew back in 1872 that the sun did this
wouldn't they have tried to mount the effort for a space
mission sooner than that? I know it took time to develop
all the technology--but seems like they waited having this
knowledge many years.

Interesting theory, tho!

cheers
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Adding the paragraph about the King Tut glass artifact
from above.
cheers
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If NASA sent the Apollo mission to specifically look for
these "glass beads" (from a solar micro-nova)...they MUST
HAVE ALREADY HAD A "HINKY" ABOUT THE PHENOMENON BEFOREHAND.

 Quoting: The Oracle's Cookie


boss

“They knew in 1872. One of my references:”

Report on the Scientific Results of the Voyage of H.M.S. Challenger, Parts 1&2 with Plates - John Murray - 1887
 Quoting: Nemesis8


..."THEY KNEW IN 1872?"...

:socksOFFpug:
"...You make me FAINT with your post!"

Just to add one thing>>>

The original video on page 1 which GLP member "Adragon"
features for this thread has Doug Vogt stating that the
REASON he believed they went to the moon to locate the
glass bead evidence (that our sun has cycles of micro-nova)
...was BECAUSE THE SUN WENT OFF IN 1957 in such a "spectacular"
way that it freaked out scientists at that time.

If they already knew back in 1872 that the sun did this
wouldn't they have tried to mount the effort for a space
mission sooner than that? I know it took time to develop
all the technology--but seems like they waited having this
knowledge many years.

Interesting theory, tho!

ONE MORE POINT...

Somewhere in this thread--it's on one of the pages can't
recall--I posted my own theory that ANCIENT EGYPT had
knowledge of a solar micro-nova clock cycle back during
the reign of Pharaoh Tutankahmun. The artifact below was
found SEWN INSIDE THE BURIED MUMMY OF KING TUT and had
enormous personal value to him (especially since buried
with him was a DAGGAR with a blade made from a meteorite!
This was revealed last week by National Geographic in a
special report.) The "GOLD KHEPRA BEETLE" IN THE CENTER
is a large carved glass bead from the solar micro-nova.
*(I emailed Doug Vogt personally and asked if he believed
this artifact could have been SOLAR MICRO-NOVA GLASS and
Vogt said it was possible.)

BeetleGodETmessa
Center carved glass beetle may very well
be solar micro-nova glass bead (or several
melted together.) It's being a 'space artifact"
would go along with the gold daggar with a
meteorite blade announced last week by Natl Geo.

So if ANCIENT EGYPT had this evidence...The Vatican
would have had knowledge of this during the time
Napoleon brought back his artifacts from Egypt and
started the whole field of Egyptology!
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If NASA sent the Apollo mission to specifically look for
these "glass beads" (from a solar micro-nova)...they MUST
HAVE ALREADY HAD A "HINKY" ABOUT THE PHENOMENON BEFOREHAND.

 Quoting: The Oracle's Cookie


boss

“They knew in 1872. One of my references:”

Report on the Scientific Results of the Voyage of H.M.S. Challenger, Parts 1&2 with Plates - John Murray - 1887
 Quoting: Nemesis8


..."THEY KNEW IN 1872?"...

:socksOFFpug:
"...You make me FAINT with your post!"

Just to add one thing>>>

The original video on page 1 which GLP member "Adragon"
features for this thread has Doug Vogt stating that the
REASON he believed they went to the moon to locate the
glass bead evidence (that our sun has cycles of micro-nova)
...was BECAUSE THE SUN WENT OFF IN 1957 in such a "spectacular"
way that it freaked out scientists at that time.

If they already knew back in 1872 that the sun did this
wouldn't they have tried to mount the effort for a space
mission sooner than that? I know it took time to develop
all the technology--but seems like they waited having this
knowledge many years.

Interesting theory, tho!

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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What they found on the ocean's floor, they did not understand. Millions of glass beads, and strange looking red clay, that all look deposited all at once. I will find the short description of the book's contents this weekend if interested. Also, you need to read Chapter 10 out for this book:

Cataclysm! Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C. - D.S. Alan & J.B. Delair - 1997

That chapter is titled, "The Rains of Death". I link it on the site under "The End", in the table of contents.

This is real, and it did happen, and it will happen any day now. That was why I created the website, to research the dates.... I still believe 2133 AD, just as Latch elucidated. But, it could happen at any moment. It will be a complete surprise, just like the people of Tiahuanaco experienced. Remember, they found their remains buried as if they were enjoying life, and then snuffed out like a candle all at once. You can keep trying to figure this out, but it is done. Now we wait my friend for the event.

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Special HAT-TIP to "CleverCreator" who provided this
MARCH 16 2021 NEW VIDEO from Douglas Vogt this A.M.
THIS VIDEO IS ONLY 7 HOURS "FRESH!"


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FairUSE

Talks about SPECIFICS of what kind of "cave system"
would be ideal to survive the Solar Micro-Nova on
either side of the earth (fire on one side/water and
ice on the other side)...At least they are trying to
figure this out.

Vogt mentions right up front that TPTB have spent
an ESTIMATED $23 TRILLION over the past 50 to 60 years
to build underground tunnel systems...(How many "stimulus
checks for struggling families WOULD THAT pay for?)

Many of these "survival tunnels" claims Vogt, will pretty
much be "DEATH TRAPS" AND WILL NOT WORK!

So, If you have your "ticket punched" already for one of
these tunnels...WATCH THIS VIDEO before you take your
seat! lol!

Here is the YouTube link to ALL OF VOGT'S PRESENTATIONS:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


cheers
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He says in the video if we are contractors, to get a hold of him...I'm not, but I have an idea anyway.

To keep it closer to the surface without having to dig so deep if at all, is(now, I've only thought about this on an individual basis, but hearing they need thousands...) a floatable egg-shaped, steel triple-layered shell that has it's amenities inside like self-contained toilet, compressed air with filtration and CO2 retrieval for self-contained breathing, bed, etc with an exterior coating of panels made of starlight which is basically elmer's glue and baking soda mixed together that creates a substance similar to the heat shield on the shuttles. It's cheap, can withstand up to thousands of degrees of temperature while keeping contents nice n cool, and can sit in a pod or holding device that would reflect the initial heat blast, then be able to float and withstand severe sloshing and impacts. It will always remain right side up as well. Compared to government costs, I think a 10ft wide, 15ft tall unit equipped as needed would be cheap at +-$150,000-$200,000 depending on how many can be produced.

5 million @ $200,000 each is a measly trillion dollars.

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