Can't blame them for wanting a life

But, that behavior is historical. There were millennia where there was no accountability, men acted like dogs, women were property. Humans acted more like herd animals. Yet we got here, to this set of ideals in this country. How did that happen?

No doubt, the educational system in this country is broken. I know this first and second hand. Everyone, the administrators, the students and the parents have learned to game the system.
The result is collapse of the system.

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Last Edited by Lily o' the Valley on 12/19/2018 01:39 PM

That's why I went with mockery and laughter. I didn't want to create angry antifa warriors, I just wanted them to be able to think something is not only not them, but is plain stupid for anybody.
I had the lucky time of them being so exposed to the sex crap so little, by thier teens they largely had contempt for that too. Did not make too big a mess of it because it wasn't "new" and they already knew it was nowhere.
The cusp of these now who aren't real turned on by the peomiscuous thing, despite what california seems like.



Over by lebanon / Bennet Spring. Used to be a lot better when not as many people came tho. All the Missouri State Parks are "holy ground" for me since I can remember.

I was raised very natural environment and I think its a big part of the sense of personal security. If you can handle nature and what you are made of, the "world" seems a little less overpowering.

I have two brother-in-laws who are very late gen-x. They are very different from each other. One is very conservative, the other is an open border liberal. The "liberal" one says he really doesn't have anything in common with people born in the 1960s-early 1970s. He is more like the worst that is said of millennials. He was born 1980.

The school system was ruined before Millennials started school. Communists had already taken it over.

Really OP?

Do you provide your children safe spaces too? Let's get real.

This year, I bought my nephew two important DVD documentaries. One about 4/26/86 and another about 9/11/01.

Why? Because I want them to know the REAL side to life and history. It's not pretty. It's UGLY. It's discussing but it's reality. But from the horror and trials of life, REAL HEROES emerged. People who sacrificed their lives for us.

Time to teach the children the truth and not hide it with pretty (fake) thoughts or entertainment to forget.

Life is hard. It's not FREE. But hard work and reality can build your children UP! Millenials need to understand that.

Well, it's good that you do that. My parents did also. Most Millennial's parents do not. They are rudderless.

I believe this came out of marketing... my MBA marketing friends obsess over this shit... they need to categorize people into groups in order to better target selling to them.. then the media picked this up thinking it sounded cool and it became viral.

I consider Millenials to be those who lost their childhood to internet & computers in general, so who were 5/6 years old when internet was more common, around 98 (when internet cafés were a thing and they started teaching internet at school). So kids born around 92.
By the current standards i'm considered a millennial (1984), but when I saw 92 kids I didn't relate to them (and none of my friends did either) we were already like WTF at the time when those kids were 16.

I don't believe you can bunch 92 kids with 84 kids (yet they are), my childhood was very different to theirs, ask them if they know what conker fights are, or pogs, playing marbles, the LA gear lights shoes and they'll look at you gone out lol, yet that's my childhood

You only have one life so make the best out of it.

Giving up is an excuse. It will never get better unless they make it better.

As a GenX, I cannot remember a time when I did not view the world as a cold hearted bitch. Maybe something to do with my malignant narcissist boomer mother who made life hell for her Greatest Gen parents, and her GenX kids?

Debbie and David Downer get fucked.

No doubt that life has always been hard for most people. We were fortunate to have been born in this country, else we could be hunting rats to survive - like some families in India. Or, we could be hunted by thugs with AK47s, because we are Christian.

I agree with you about being realistic. But, if we really want to to understand their world view, and help them deal with those realities; we can't just give them formulaic prescriptions. Those have not worked for a long time. That is why so many kids are disillusioned and suicidal. The prescription used to be "Go to college." Well that worked in the 50s-70s - not now.

Now, some people say, just work hard and everything will be OK. But, that is just another formulaic prescription. It is very superficial - like saying, "Hey kid, watch this documentary and it will help you understand."

"Success" is more of a moving target than ever. Recipes won't work. They need mentors and caring parents, who will put forth the effort to understand them and help them understand the world. School teachers cannot do it.

Give them motivation and hope.

very simple the times you talk about when the family unit did not exist or was loose if I may describe it thusly, mankind was more barbaric.

I'm Gen X, and I look at Millennials like this:

They're young. Guess some figure it out eventually, some don't.
Many that don't will perish, just like it's always been.

i think there should be a new generation every 5-10 years. theres no way an 18 year old has the same experiences as kinderngardner.

Last Edited by Limestone Cowboy on 12/19/2018 02:17 PM

Well, aren't we returning to barbarism, then? Are we in retrograde?

You're full of shit. My parents were born in 46. My wife's parents were born in 46 and 53. I was born in 66 and my brother in 69. My wife was born on 77. So, we're all Boomers?

Sorry about that. Mine were disfunctional too. But, I did pick up a few bits of wisdom from them, regardless.

This x 100.

yes as a transition period but they want to transfer control to the state.. or A.I., or dare I say it aliens?

Well, that just won't work. And, we already know it.

Want to know a major reason why we can't work together? You group us all up as one and think just because you've seen some (liberally raised) kids screaming "open border" that they must all be like that. You see some of the entitled idiots of the generation whining and complaining that they don't yet have a skyscraper and a multi million dollar mansion, and think all of the kids must be like that.

News flash: every generation has had those people. These attitudes against whole generations are extremist, not actually fact.

It would be the same as if my generation generalized the boomers for allowing things to get to this point socially and economically while enjoying the hand-over of property of the generation before. That is simply not always the case.

I find it scary how we often talk about sticking together for the betterment of the country while maintaining a division amongst generations. Some of the "kids" in my generation have 3 jobs to maintain school and a $1200 1 bedroom apartment in an unsafe neighborhood. These kids are fully aware of what their parents paid for their family home growing up, knowing they will never have that same opportunity. There are more of those "kids" than you'd think, actually. They are too busy skipping many of the things the boomers had to enjoy. They are too busy to be pointing fingers and bitching about the generations before them or after them.

The tunnel vision is very real on this topic. Think for a moment; if things continued at the same pace for another 50 years, we will be making approximately $18/hr, milk will be $10, entry level homes will be $750,000 and education will require a scholarship unless you are born into wealth or are willing to work every second of every day split amongst 4-5 jobs. Will you still think they're all entitled then?

Last Edited by Nev6502 on 12/19/2018 03:34 PM

Sounds like a bunch of new age mumbo jumbo to me.