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| Bright Side
Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses...  User ID: 75932275  United States12/05/2018 08:58 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Outland Thinking the same thing...I take 10k per day and once I started taking it I haven't been sick in years. This may be a psyop as VIt D is making people healthier Research done ten years ago showed a vitamin D alone cut all kinds of Cancer in HALF as prevention Vitamin D is blocked by BPA - the stuf that they put in plastic water bottles - baby bottles - and coating on cookware Vitamin D is a HORMONE - and the other ones don't work right without it Lack of sunlight = lack of Vit D Maps show more heart disease and Cancer the higher latitude you live at My friend started taking high doses - lost 90 pounds (had gained 100 when he quit smoking) and felt great - energy- less joint pain - younger - Vit D enables Testosterone too. He told his doctor he was taking Vit D after doc noticed how great he was doing. Doc Rained on that parade - said Vit D would ruin his BRAIN and "too much can turn your brain to mush" - so he quit taking it Gained weight - numbers went bad - joints hurt - got DEPRESSED! Researched it again - and the Doc was wrong! He's on Vit D again - and feeling terrific! i was with you on this at first.... D is good! but my dog died Sunday after ELM dog food. We put her down due to kidney/liver failure. it is real. She may be the first dog to die of this. I read that the FDA knows of six that were ill at least. She was 16 and had other issues, but the kidney failure was acute. And I bought the ELM in the recall. How horrible. I am so sorry for your loss. So sorry for your loss beeches. Lots of things can cause acute kidney failure. If you still have the food I'd send it away to an independent lab that tests for toxic metals or another possible source of the D. It's not the vitamin d - it's the source of the D... Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
| beeches
User ID: 74276477 United States12/05/2018 09:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Theobromine The Deplorable This may be a psyop as VIt D is making people healthier Research done ten years ago showed a vitamin D alone cut all kinds of Cancer in HALF as prevention Vitamin D is blocked by BPA - the stuf that they put in plastic water bottles - baby bottles - and coating on cookware Vitamin D is a HORMONE - and the other ones don't work right without it Lack of sunlight = lack of Vit D Maps show more heart disease and Cancer the higher latitude you live at My friend started taking high doses - lost 90 pounds (had gained 100 when he quit smoking) and felt great - energy- less joint pain - younger - Vit D enables Testosterone too. He told his doctor he was taking Vit D after doc noticed how great he was doing. Doc Rained on that parade - said Vit D would ruin his BRAIN and "too much can turn your brain to mush" - so he quit taking it Gained weight - numbers went bad - joints hurt - got DEPRESSED! Researched it again - and the Doc was wrong! He's on Vit D again - and feeling terrific! i was with you on this at first.... D is good! but my dog died Sunday after ELM dog food. We put her down due to kidney/liver failure. it is real. She may be the first dog to die of this. I read that the FDA knows of six that were ill at least. She was 16 and had other issues, but the kidney failure was acute. And I bought the ELM in the recall. How horrible. I am so sorry for your loss. So sorry for your loss beeches. Lots of things can cause acute kidney failure. If you still have the food I'd send it away to an independent lab that tests for toxic metals or another possible source of the D. It's not the vitamin d - it's the source of the D... thank you - you bet I still have it. your advice is good. I was only going to test for D, a fat-soluble vitamin Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| beeches
User ID: 74276477 United States12/05/2018 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had posted about her dying on another thread..... just mentioned it. it was only personal to those that knew her. Quoting: beeches all of GLP knows her as my avatar... and petpeeve gave us all a headsup. I hope no one else here has this happen. So sorry to hear this. Prayers lifted that little one is at the rainbow bridge. However, last year, my pup almost died from blue buffalo. Very ill and moving into kidney failure. I google it and found MANY pets had lost their lives due to this horrible food. I try not to feed the same thing every night. Dry kibble one night, home cooked meat w/ rice the next. Both seem to be doing better with that. Important thread  thank you too, dear friend. you and all expressing loss at my loss.... good to vary foods, for sure. This was a local artisanal brand. All natural.... obviously they must be shattered too. keeping my mind and options open at this point. Want to learn more before doing anything beyond notifying the FDA. which seemed to be closed today Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| beeches
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| JFKdemocrat
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| beeches
User ID: 74276477 United States12/05/2018 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REALLY?? Quoting: JFKdemocrat yet my doctor has always advised me you cannot over do Vitamin D....guess humans are obviously different. you can, for sure D is a fat-soluble vitamin like A, K, and E. any of those can be overdone they are stored in our fat the water-soluble vitamins B and C are less likely to be overdone, we excrete the excess in urine. find a doctor who admits they know nothing about nutrition. most don't Last Edited by beeches on 12/05/2018 09:21 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| marooned
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Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States12/05/2018 09:25 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REALLY?? Quoting: JFKdemocrat yet my doctor has always advised me you cannot over do Vitamin D....guess humans are obviously different. you can, for sure D is a fat-soluble vitamin like A, K, and E. any of those can be overdone they are stored in our fat the water-soluble vitamins B and C are less likely to be overdone, we excrete the excess in urine. find a doctor who admits they know nothing about nutrition. most don't as a rule, the MD's know NOTHING about nutrition. NOTHING. "Ask your doctor before...  you try to kill yourself..."Bullshit. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
| C.K. Dexter Haven
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| beeches
User ID: 74276477 United States12/05/2018 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn, I haven't read the article yet but that must have been a lot of Vitamin D. I take 20k to 50k units daily. Quoting: A Chosen That's too much. It builds up over time. It can have a lot of negative effects. Some subtle, some not so subtle. 5k is plenty, 10k is more than enough. 70 times the healthy dose Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77064257 United States12/05/2018 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was put in to increase the apparent amount of protein to lab testing: Quoting: fluffycat [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com (secure)] Or it occured in the wheat gluten as a result a pesticide interacting with the plant: [link to pubs.acs.org (secure)] and we just blamed those evil Chinese, to avoid panic over the food supply. Designated scapegoats, take your places. [link to avimune.co.za] "Melamine contains 66% nitrogen by mass and is also a metabolite of cyromazine, a pesticide. It is formed in the body of mammals who have ingested cyromazine. It has been reported that cyromazine can also be converted to melamine in plants." [link to www.emea.europa.eu] |
| Intruth
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77042767  Canada12/05/2018 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn, I haven't read the article yet but that must have been a lot of Vitamin D. I take 20k to 50k units daily. Quoting: A Chosen You're crazy then. I tried that much once, and I ended up in the hospital. You're at least poisoning yourself even if you're not at lethal dosage. Yea yea I know what folks here have said about how you should take this crazy amounts and hoe it fights swine flu and stuff. It's b.s. Take 10k units a day at most. The official limit is 4K units a day for healthy adults who are not old or sickly. The average human adult needs 2k units a day. Actually, it's more like 1000 IU for every 25 lbs of bodyweigh for healthy adults. Double that for really sick people which is ironically brought by life long chronically vitamin D deficient as a last resort. I never heard of that before. Obviously what a person needs varies some what based on their age, body size, life style and state of health. Some people don't process vitamin d very efficiently while others do. As we get older we tend to spend less time out doors to get vitamin d naturally and we don't absorb it as well when we are old. Like many other vitamins we have more trouble absorbing them as we get older. It all has to do with our aging gut. 4K is the actual official limit according to so called health experts but there are people who are in poor health that have taken more than official limit and not experienced any negative side effects. The unofficial limit is 10K but is not recommended by health experts. I definitely wouldn't go beyond 10K and I certainly would not recommend 10k for healthy adults because you might be over dosing here since you do get some vitamin d from other food sources and the sun. |
| GreatWhiteNorth
User ID: 75993659 Canada12/05/2018 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least eight brands of dry dog foods are being recalled after the FDA said the food could contain toxic levels of vitamin D. The FDA urged owners to stop using the recalled products. Quoting: Petpeeve Excess vitamin D can cause vomiting, appetite loss, increased urination, excessive drooling and weight loss. Toxic levels of the vitamin can cause kidney failure and death. The affected brands include: Nutrisca, Natural Life Pet Products, Sunshine Mills, Inc., ANF, Inc., Lidl (Orlando brand), Kroger, ELM Pet Foods, Inc. and Ahold Delhaize. Below is the list of recalled dry dog food products provided to the FDA: [link to www.fda.gov (secure)] [link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)] BULLSHIT LIE!!!!!!! Vitamin D overdose does not cause those symptoms. What does cause those symptoms MELAMINE. Which means they are covering up the fact that those dog food brands are using chinese made dog food. Dont believe it? Google the following phrase "melamine in dog food symptoms". The FDA is lying to the public. |
| C.K. Dexter Haven
User ID: 77028752 Switzerland12/05/2018 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least eight brands of dry dog foods are being recalled after the FDA said the food could contain toxic levels of vitamin D. The FDA urged owners to stop using the recalled products. Quoting: Petpeeve Excess vitamin D can cause vomiting, appetite loss, increased urination, excessive drooling and weight loss. Toxic levels of the vitamin can cause kidney failure and death. The affected brands include: Nutrisca, Natural Life Pet Products, Sunshine Mills, Inc., ANF, Inc., Lidl (Orlando brand), Kroger, ELM Pet Foods, Inc. and Ahold Delhaize. Below is the list of recalled dry dog food products provided to the FDA: [link to www.fda.gov (secure)] [link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)] BULLSHIT LIE!!!!!!! Vitamin D overdose does not cause those symptoms. What does cause those symptoms MELAMINE. Which means they are covering up the fact that those dog food brands are using chinese made dog food. Dont believe it? Google the following phrase "melamine in dog food symptoms". The FDA is lying to the public. Quite possible. Melamine contamination has been an ongoing problem, and vitamin D is not cheap. The wool oil it's made from is actually pretty valuable. |
| Timur2020
User ID: 71869501 United States12/05/2018 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Us too. Or we get cheap kibble and add equal parts of real food. Kibble casserole sometimes. But we also get recall alerts "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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| Deplorable Azila_Again
User ID: 76822217 United States12/05/2018 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my last physical a month ago, I was low in Vitamin D (18) Quoting: Intruth Taking 5000 IU of D3 daily. but fighting off a bad cough and diarrhea. You can not compare humans to Animals when it comes to lots of things like vitamins. Great, informative video The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
| The ring of truth
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| The ring of truth
User ID: 54411851 United States12/05/2018 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We pressure cook thigh chicken and then pressure cook rice.. And feed it everyday to our dogs.. With a pinch dinvite. TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND! Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH! Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON... ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS! |
| The ring of truth
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| Eggcellently Deplorable
Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 39723407 United States12/05/2018 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we will let Brief, the supposed healer, show his true colors here. Quoting: beeches for those with a brain, this is information we need to keep out there. a vet in our family was unaware of the extent of the recall. Vitamin D has gotten a bad press recently, as a poster pointed out.... I glossed over it until another poster here pointed out that we might be using ELM, a Delaware brand. it is all over the country. the supplier made ingredients for many small local dog food brands. As a true conspiracy theorist, I would be curious to learn the ethnic make-up of the supplier's employees. There are certain ethnicities which are adverse to dogs to the point of hatred and they might deliberately place themselves into a position where they could do something about it. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
| Bucknutty
User ID: 76334933 United States12/05/2018 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fun fact about vitamin D. Its being pushed by the establishment as the miracle cure all pill with no facts to support it. The truth of the matter is it does absolutely nothing. The risk of overdosing on it is great its not worth the risk for a pill that is a placebo. [link to theconversation.com (secure)] |
| Bright Side
Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 75260080 United States12/06/2018 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had posted about her dying on another thread..... just mentioned it. it was only personal to those that knew her. Quoting: beeches all of GLP knows her as my avatar... and petpeeve gave us all a headsup. I hope no one else here has this happen. So sorry to hear this. Prayers lifted that little one is at the rainbow bridge. However, last year, my pup almost died from blue buffalo. Very ill and moving into kidney failure. I google it and found MANY pets had lost their lives due to this horrible food. I try not to feed the same thing every night. Dry kibble one night, home cooked meat w/ rice the next. Both seem to be doing better with that. Important thread thank you too, dear friend. you and all expressing loss at my loss.... good to vary foods, for sure. This was a local artisanal brand. All natural.... obviously they must be shattered too. keeping my mind and options open at this point. Want to learn more before doing anything beyond notifying the FDA. which seemed to be closed today Beeches I don't want to compound your sorrow and righteous anger but you should also consider the local artisanal stuff you've been paying out the nose for is just repackaged Kroger crap. Look at the list... I stopped feeding my dog packaged food after my family member, an employee of Target at the time, told me they have huge trashcans to throw expired meat into. They had to unpackage it and it smelled horrible. Once a month an alternative food processor would pick up the cans and give fresh cans. Then I researched and found out this is done everywhere. They bleach it and cook it, grind it and sell to dog food companies. Essentially there is no difference in dog food source ingredients, just the recipes. Last Edited by Bright Side on 12/06/2018 11:24 AM Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
| FINGERPRINTS of the GODS
User ID: 58686169 United States12/06/2018 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Agent Smith 2014 You're crazy then. I tried that much once, and I ended up in the hospital. You're at least poisoning yourself even if you're not at lethal dosage. Yea yea I know what folks here have said about how you should take this crazy amounts and hoe it fights swine flu and stuff. It's b.s. Take 10k units a day at most. The official limit is 4K units a day for healthy adults who are not old or sickly. The average human adult needs 2k units a day. Actually, it's more like 1000 IU for every 25 lbs of bodyweigh for healthy adults. Double that for really sick people which is ironically brought by life long chronically vitamin D deficient as a last resort. I never heard of that before. Obviously what a person needs varies some what based on their age, body size, life style and state of health. Some people don't process vitamin d very efficiently while others do. As we get older we tend to spend less time out doors to get vitamin d naturally and we don't absorb it as well when we are old. Like many other vitamins we have more trouble absorbing them as we get older. It all has to do with our aging gut. 4K is the actual official limit according to so called health experts but there are people who are in poor health that have taken more than official limit and not experienced any negative side effects. The unofficial limit is 10K but is not recommended by health experts. I definitely wouldn't go beyond 10K and I certainly would not recommend 10k for healthy adults because you might be over dosing here since you do get some vitamin d from other food sources and the sun. Pretty sure it's 10,000 IU that is the upper limit now. 4,000 IU used to be UL till a few years ago, whenever that was. Everything about vitamin D... [link to www.grassrootshealth.net (secure)] and [link to www.vitamindcouncil.org (secure)] EDIT: My bad about UL. I guess 10,000 IU was for studies, I don't recall but I used to read everything at the links above for starting 12 years ago. I take 5,000 IU in the fall and spring. 10,000 IU in the winter. It works pretty good as I got sick much less frequently. Last Edited by Marvelous Man on 12/06/2018 04:33 PM There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. |
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| White Wolf Waking
User ID: 76693158 United States12/06/2018 06:01 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REALLY?? Quoting: JFKdemocrat yet my doctor has always advised me you cannot over do Vitamin D....guess humans are obviously different. you can, for sure D is a fat-soluble vitamin like A, K, and E. any of those can be overdone they are stored in our fat the water-soluble vitamins B and C are less likely to be overdone, we excrete the excess in urine. find a doctor who admits they know nothing about nutrition. most don't as a rule, the MD's know NOTHING about nutrition. NOTHING. "Ask your doctor before... you try to kill yourself..."Bullshit.  This.ANIMAL FRIEND "All creatures are created from the same paternal heartbeat of God. Not to hurt our humble brethren is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be of service to them wherever they require it. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." -St. Francis of Assisi "The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." -Gandhi Thread: Top 10 Opera Auditions (My Music Thread) |
| beeches
User ID: 74276477 United States12/08/2018 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REALLY?? Quoting: JFKdemocrat yet my doctor has always advised me you cannot over do Vitamin D....guess humans are obviously different. you can, for sure D is a fat-soluble vitamin like A, K, and E. any of those can be overdone they are stored in our fat the water-soluble vitamins B and C are less likely to be overdone, we excrete the excess in urine. find a doctor who admits they know nothing about nutrition. most don't as a rule, the MD's know NOTHING about nutrition. NOTHING. "Ask your doctor before... you try to kill yourself..."Bullshit. This.I will update as I get more information about this. The FDA is not making it easy for anyone to report a dog illness or death, in that they require a great deal of documentation before they decide whether to test any leftover food from what your dog ate or autopsy it. I have no doubt many, many more dogs than just six were affected. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
