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Deeply saddening but not surprising. We are being conquered from within or the attempt is here and strong. Their plan is to do this over the course of time and have done so for decades. It’s just really starting to show their progress. What I think they don’t understand is that America is the only country to know freedom since it’s founding. They won’t win, enough of us will NEVER allow that to happen. But unfortunately it may come a second Civil War. I pray it doesn’t but I know if it does, those that choose to fight for freedom will win...the fucking pussy ass snowflakes have ZERO chance.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Nicomachus




I'm from NY and once in the distant past I did consider myself to be a liberal democrat.
That was long ago.
The current crop of so-called "Liberals" are some of the craziest, illogical, frenzy driven mob mentality nut jobs who have no reasoning abilities and when you disagree with them, automatically throw out the words, racist and bigot and have no debate to offer even if you present them with sound arguments based in documentable fact !
They are impossibly lost, sad and scary and present a real danger not only to the sovereignty of America but to the continued existence of Mankind as we know it...
they are THE BORG!

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We already know that here in Ohio. Everyone around us younger than 40, believes the same. We are shocked, disgusted, alarmed, you name it.

I don't know how it all happened. Obviously it wasn't overnight, but it sure seems like it was.
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sounds like it's time for a new set of friends.
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A lot of them sounded like family, maybe. Just an unfortunate geographical choice seems to have turned them into political zombies.
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If Q is a fraud and if the traitors our not rounded up we are doomed as a country. It’s just a matter of time before the hordes begin persecution of conservatives and Christians. Just a matter of time.
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And for those who pooh-pooh the notion of such a thing happening, less than 200 years ago State Governors ran groups of Christians out of their States and put a dead-or-alive bounty on their heads.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Unfortunately we have reached the saturation point. The point that the good is outnumbered by the bad. The bad segments of our culture have joined forces to overwhelm the good populace.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Nicomachus




I'm from NY and once in the distant past I did consider myself to be a liberal democrat.
That was long ago.
The current crop of so-called "Liberals" are some of the craziest, illogical, frenzy driven mob mentality nut jobs who have no reasoning abilities and when you disagree with them, automatically throw out the words, racist and bigot and have no debate to offer even if you present them with sound arguments based in documentable fact !
They are impossibly lost, sad and scary and present a real danger not only to the sovereignty of America but to the continued existence of Mankind as we know it...
they are THE BORG!

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There not human
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Wow - thank you OP...

A hard night indeed for you...thankfully you chose to share what you observed. Daunting as it is, there are millions of us who cherish a very different set of values and goals, grounded in reality and logic and in opposition to most of those whom you observed during your party night.

I say God Bless our President Trump and God Bless all of us who are supporting and encouraging Mr. Trump to carry on!
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We already know that here in Ohio. Everyone around us younger than 40, believes the same. We are shocked, disgusted, alarmed, you name it.

I don't know how it all happened. Obviously it wasn't overnight, but it sure seems like it was.
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It's because of this that Republicans and Trump better start think about strategies to combat this mentality or it's all over for Republicans in 2020.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
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It is clear that half the country is indeed brain washed. That being said, when the massive arrests start happening in the near future, most of the media will be taken over and people will be red pilled about how deep the corruption went within the FBI, CIA, Obama, the Clinton's and most of the Democrats in power. We will get the house back because of the arrests of those democrat house members that are part of the deep state. Notice how many republican seats opened up in the house. Republicans were told that if they are compromised, don't run for re-election and they may not be arrested.(Paul Ryan was one of them) Otherwise, we would have easily kept the house.

After the arrests and the truth comes out, Trump will be seen as the President that saved our country, and will easily win 2020.....MAGA.....WWG1WGA
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The common folk will never revolt against tyranny for fear of reprisal and losing gains.... However it's the people who no longer give a damn and have nothing left to lose that will finally start the ball rolling. And when that starts, politicians and lampposts will be like hands to gloves.
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So you just verified that most east coasters are fucking stupid retarded.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
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As bad as it is here, and it is, you should see my get togethers with my family in Spain, same story, except they blame the failures of socialism on the country's politicians. The solution: they say to become more like the rest of Europe. They were aghast that we all supported Trump. The media there is CNN squared, ultra liberal. My cousin who has his own business said socialism is the perfect economic model. When I questioned about places like Venezuela he said their economy was being " sabotaged by right wing mafias" whatever that means. Most of them still believe the answer to socialism's failure's is more socialism. One difference I noticed is that you can still talk and discuss divergent viewpoints, unlike here in the US. My best friends son stopped talking to him and basically disowned him when Trump started to run for president.
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I went through this realization (and it does make you sick, doesn't it? I mean physically ill) after 3 friends of more than 30 YEARS called me a homophobic racist for liking Trump and not wanted Transgenderism taught in schools.

3 of them in one week.
And not all at the same time. They don't even know one another at all.

It's fucking horrible.
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you're over 30 and have more than 3 friends!?!?!? how!?!?! not married?

lmao
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Seriously! LOL

I have 1 friend and I see him about once every couple years.

chuckle

Otherwise, it's just me and the wife and our family bullshit.
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I used to think there was something wrong with me for just having 1 good friend.

I could call him at 2 am and he would be here in 15 mins. He's called me at 2 and I was there in 15.

We try to go out and do something around our birthdays', but if it doesn't happen, oh well...

Good guy. Proud, honorably discharged Marine with 3 Marine sons and 1 Army boy too.
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The mainstream media is the enemy of the people. where else do you think they get their hysterical bullshit? The news fags...
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If you read Martin Armstrong, he repeatedly said we have crossed the point of no return and what's next is the crash and burn. That will happen around 2032, when America will split.
I was born and raised in a former socialist country in Eastern Europe. It was really bad. If that comes here, I'm out. Where? I don't know yet. Maybe Brazil, after 40 years of socialism, will be capitalist by then.
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That's your small circle of friends. I don't know anyone in my family or where I work that doesn't support Trump, or at least recognize liberals as bat shit crazy. Hardly a national sampling of opinion
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Lucky you! I live halfway between Portland and Salem. Two years ago I was afraid to put Trump stickers on my car, and I STILL am afraid to put them on my car! You never know when a Portlander or a Salemite might be in the neighborhood.

This Election was really sad. The paper showed a picture of Oregon by how it voted, and the entire STATE was RED except for along the I-5 Corridor (Portland-Salem-Corvallis-Eugene) which was Blue.(about 5 per cent) And yet, the Blue won. Brown the switch-hitter is still the Governor, we are still a sanctuary state, and are now wide-open for a grocery tax. Where has my Oregon disappeared to?
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No matter how much they cheat and stuff the ballot boxes, Democraps are NOT 50% of the voters, so there are still lots of real Americans out here.
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Be careful. Remember 50% of the population has a 99 IQ or lower.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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it's like the NORTH VS SOUTH civil war all over again-
they really deceived and brainwashed them good up north
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It's not just up north. It's everywhere, now even in predominantly red states. Look at Texas this last midterm. I live in taxachusetts (unfortunately) and in no way am I brainwashed and know quite a few like minded patriots. Although, most are leftists. Planning on moving to New Hampshire soon as it's one of the most free states there is. The constitution state. I'll still work in mass tho.
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It seems we might be at the point of "What ever the fuck is around" You need to stand up and duck real fast. lflash
On the other hand, I have different fingers.
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OP, that's a fantastic summary.

I live in upstate NY and OMG people like that are everywhere here. I think I lost my last job over it (backstabbers)… and almost started a better job last week till … backstabbers … started new job today and NFW will religion/politics escape my lips in that place.

What's worse are certain family members ... stupid strong...

I've been feeling sick over crap like this since O'bummer 1st election bait-switch and they didn't care.
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Sounds a lot like Atlas Shrugged.
Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison.
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op..i cried, thankyou, in uk, we are allowing the freaks who say..let them all in, then, when they are in...we have to adapt to them, give them more rights than we have, house and feed them, let them build mosques, let them abuse our children, let them dictate to us, how to live in our own country, let them make ghettos, sadly its to late, nwo and deep state are winning.

At todays rememberance service in uk, black and white kids were on bikes, heads/faces covered, laughing, lots rejoicing so many died in wars.

op..a brilliant post, sadly..how can we change things?
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Gawd , that makes me depressed. I work at a private school and the same zombie like, non nonsensical , thinking even there. I thought is was just mellinials Teachers. But even the older liberal-leftist administration is the same.
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Unfortunately this lot of friends get their news from MSM which tells watchers what to think.. not how to think. I do look forward to the day when the media is shut down. Time to get those ham radio licenses folks.

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I hear this all the time from my friends on the left. I just pray for them and know that they have been brainwashed. They are like MSM mouthpieces... sheep'le


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what are they "teaching" in school these days? Anything "useful"???
We'll be third world in no time...
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The country is toast. The rule of law is dead. We will finish our descent into banana republic. We will be ruled by one party, criminals, and unhinged mobs of marginally functional illiterates.

This Veteran's Day sucked realizing it was all for nothing.





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