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I have some bad news.... doesn't bode well for our country. I'm still feeling sick over it.

 
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
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Sounds like the Dems and the media have succeeded in the hate Trump brainwashing.
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Its evil and it makes me physically ill.
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My condolences to you OP.
It especially sucks when family members are turned.
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The political climate destroyed families.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


...and friendships. We believe one of our best friends voted for Keith Ellison and other traitors last week. She sucks from the system and wants it to continue instead of getting a real job.

I can not stomach to talk to her anymore. She calls every weekend to talk for hours to my wife but I will not answer the phone anymore. My wife has stopped answering too. I never though politics would destroy friendships but call me bad. I don't care anymore. I am at war now.
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Its irreversible
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sounds like it's time for a new set of friends.
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This is so typical I don't even go to politics hardly ever... the mind control remains "well done" on this world.. You gotta give the dark shits credit.. they are GOOD at what they do.. TOO GOOD. Something is wrong with mind. TOO MUCH 2d and 3d copy catting and little original thinking...and almost no personal introspection.
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It could be 50/50 at a party but the general population of White people is not 50/50. White Americans are m/l 85% conservative patriotic and 15% useful idiot.
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it's like the NORTH VS SOUTH civil war all over again-
they really deceived and brainwashed them good up north
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Dont go stereotyping "the north" because that is not what the north believes. NY/NJ, maybe, but that's sheeple central.

Folks in Chicago are nothing like that at ALL! Just thought Id share that good news!
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Its so sad to watch the Demise of America, but when us Trump voters die off....America will probably be a part of the NWO....and Marxism will rule for a little while

Then, Jesus comes back and destroys the darkness with HIS LIGHT!!!

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By the way,this is a 10 Star Post and should be permanently pinned.

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This is why I have taken to just slamming even mild Democrats with the hard truth that:

Democrats were founded on genocide - Trail of Tears

Democrats won the Civil War - Democrat shot Lincoln in the head and then Johnson (D) signed the peace deal.

Democrats founded the Federal Reserve. They had Wilson's League of Nations, precursor to global socialist government, in mind when they started the Fed, so the War was a pretext for financial control.

Democrats created the IRS, which is unConstitutional because it forces you to report the contents of your mind and pockets, illegal search and seizure to report income. What happens if you find $100 on the ground?

Democrats started the FBI in 1933 and the first thing they did with it was steal everyone's gold. The Constitution says nothing but Gold and Silver, so that's another fascist unConstitutional program run by the Dems.

By 1947 Dems had nuked Japan, started the CIA and set up the Bretton Woods system, meaning that all international oil transactions have to be done with their fiat currency.

What does freedom of the press mean? How do you make Democrat toilet paper money?

Freedom of the Press = Printing Press = Paper, not corporate talking heads, not even journalism. A press is different than a journal. DUH

America is 100% Fascist, Racist, Socialist State, thanks to the Democrats.

My Grandfather fought in WW2, and I loved him, but the truth is that he wanted to fight for freedom and fought instead for oil and blood soaked Democrat fiat toilet paper.
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This is why I have taken to just slamming even mild Democrats with the hard truth that:

Democrats were founded on genocide - Trail of Tears

Democrats won the Civil War - Democrat shot Lincoln in the head and then Johnson (D) signed the peace deal.

Democrats founded the Federal Reserve. They had Wilson's League of Nations, precursor to global socialist government, in mind when they started the Fed, so the War was a pretext for financial control.

Democrats created the IRS, which is unConstitutional because it forces you to report the contents of your mind and pockets, illegal search and seizure to report income. What happens if you find $100 on the ground?

Democrats started the FBI in 1933 and the first thing they did with it was steal everyone's gold. The Constitution says nothing but Gold and Silver, so that's another fascist unConstitutional program run by the Dems.

By 1947 Dems had nuked Japan, started the CIA and set up the Bretton Woods system, meaning that all international oil transactions have to be done with their fiat currency.

What does freedom of the press mean? How do you make Democrat toilet paper money?

Freedom of the Press = Printing Press = Paper, not corporate talking heads, not even journalism. A press is different than a journal. DUH

America is 100% Fascist, Racist, Socialist State, thanks to the Democrats.

My Grandfather fought in WW2, and I loved him, but the truth is that he wanted to fight for freedom and fought instead for oil and blood soaked Democrat fiat toilet paper.
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I think the next war will be there end like the communist party.
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That’s why they call them “Brain Dead Liberals”.
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I think Yuri Bezmenov's talk and interview should earn a permanent PIN so people can understand what's going on.
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One of the best posts I've ever read here. Cuts to the core of America's problems - most of which are mental. It figures that a bunch of Yankees would be pro-commie, anti-freedom. It's a long tradition there.

Looks like a fight for the soul of this country. If most people just don't care or are unwilling to sacrifice for freedom then the globalists just might win. I'd hate to think we'd have to take out our fellow citizens to save our country but we are the last bastion of freedom on the planet. If we can't save freedom it will disappear for 1,000 years. That long walk in to darkness that Reagan spoke of will become reality. Not for my children or my grandchildren if I can help it. If the time comes I'm ready to give up everything. Patriots need a call sign and hand sign to recognize each other. I suggest the 3 fingers up for 3%.
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Your figurin' is part of the problem. There are lots of ignorant lefties in the NE. There are lots of ignorant righties in the South. The broad brush signals DivideAndConquer in a way almost up there with virtue signaling represents leftie brain washing. Do better. Your country depends on it.
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That’s why they call them “Brain Dead Liberals”.
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The damage they caused families is irreversible and all the infighting is irrevocable.
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"Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT."

I found the problem.
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Exactly! That and the fact that conservatives generally keep their opinions to themselves (unless around like minded people)

It really just depends. My friends are all conservative and conversations go opposite of what you described. Just read comment sections. I would say the country is split right down the middle. A civil war is coming. The only question is, what will be the match that starts the fire.
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Man oh man. That is something else. Very sad to hear this. My kids in college are starting to think this way. Very sad state of affairs in this country
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the Chinese actually control most of the colleges in this country.
I have no idea who can manage to listen to the fat man from Austin or what you think of him ... but today's show would be a good one to see or hear. He was better in his delivery and was serious enough he didn't rant. It was good info ......
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Whoa mispurrrr is SPOT ON!

bump

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It's the socialist liberals that will be the first to take the Mark of the Beast when the time comes because they want the "state" to take care of and protect them.

Very sad, but they refuse to believe the truth - on many levels.
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"The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy." (Yuri Bezmenov)
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That’s why they call them “Brain Dead Liberals”.
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The damage they caused families is irreversible and all the infighting is irrevocable.
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^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^

bump
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"The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy." (Yuri Bezmenov)
 Quoting: Beast Baby


well, that didn't work
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"The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy." (Yuri Bezmenov)
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well, that didn't work
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This won't go well for the dimmms
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it's like the NORTH VS SOUTH civil war all over again-
they really deceived and brainwashed them good up north
 Quoting: Alice in Black Boots


Dont go stereotyping "the north" because that is not what the north believes. NY/NJ, maybe, but that's sheeple central.

Folks in Chicago are nothing like that at ALL! Just thought Id share that good news!
 Quoting: Revelation Baby


Sigh. The biggest sheeple I know are the Chicagoland Obamabots who "knew him" when he was a community organizer. Im even related to one. The brain washing is breathtaking.

We all need to get it through our heads: this is not a geo issue, an econ issue, or a gender issue. And more importantly, if we are going to SaveTheUnion2.0, we have wake up to the fact it is Control issue. 0.001% of population has duped 40% that anther 40% is wrong and EVIL. 15% know something is wrong but not what. 5% see our fight is beyond left-right D-R, and goes to parasite-host.

If you read up on parastism, you will find parasites often alter the behavior of host-prey. We need to help support our brothers and sisters when they are ready to cleanse. Pointing fingers at groups that are very disparate but for geo proximity, only does the parasites' bidding.

DON'T BE A PARASITE ENABLER YO.
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"Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT."

I found the problem.
 Quoting: Erif Snogard


Exactly! That and the fact that conservatives generally keep their opinions to themselves (unless around like minded people)

It really just depends. My friends are all conservative and conversations go opposite of what you described. Just read comment sections. I would say the country is split right down the middle. A civil war is coming. The only question is, what will be the match that starts the fire.
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I don't know what is worse: the OP's experience or the cohort, of which you are a part, that is so quick to tar whole groups AND demonstrate a flaccidity in the face of defending the American construct. I have responded to four of you now, and I see nothing but defeatist collectivists. Your projections would be hilarious if the stakes were not so high. Do better. Your country needs you.
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Well that was uplifting.
(Sarcasm obviously)
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sounds like it's time for a new set of friends.
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I stopped 100% communications with an entire set of relatives over Trump. So.... bye.
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yeah it sucks but seems like no one can talk about anything anymore, even family.

i honestly think it's 100% the fault of cell phones/social media/internet in general.

we all can ingore/block/etc. everything we don't like, so when you talk to people with a different opinion, rather than get into an argument or discuss a topic, people have begun to just decide to say "well, guess i won't be talking to you anymore".

it's just happened in the last 10 years or so, even with someone very close to me who went from ron paul libertarian to Facebook obsessed hillary clinton libtard.
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From Ron Paul to Hillary Clinton is definitely mental illness.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Wow. This scares me. It's worse than I thought.
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Hegelian dialectic is working. The resolution is coming. Trumps job was to bring those people together.

Wait until the real big shit comes.

World strong. Stronger together.

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