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sounds like it's time for a new set of friends.
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Yes.

You and the honored veteran and your wife would have been welcomed.

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it's like the NORTH VS SOUTH civil war all over again-
they really deceived and brainwashed them good up north
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It is the cities vs the rural mostly, I think.
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((((Hugs)))) know uR NOT alone. I am female (over 50) - married over 30 years, to a man who believes in all that garbage. He listens to Mad Cow, (and I wear jack hammer ear muffs, (I hate it that bad)).....99.999 percent of my FB "friends" and family feel (as you described)...so I am the crazy one, who Supports US Constitution, Bill of Rights, elected President - etc. I think there are many of us out here?, but it is not safe to "come out of the closet" as a patriot.
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Ehhh..my wife and I are both 50'ish and we flaunt our right-wingedness.

Maybe that's why nobody wants to be our friends, lol.
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Did you not stand for YOUR beliefs OP? Or did you sit and listen wondering how many acually believe the crap and we're just going along with it because they were afraid to rock the boat like you? By the bye, I probably wouldn't have said anything either... Wouldn't join that conversation but just kept quiet
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People don't like Trump because they think he's leading us to WAR.
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It's not that simple.

A large number of people don't like him mainly because he isn't a liberal/leftist.

He could be beating the war drums right now, but if he were also extolling the virtues of high taxes, the EU/UN, stopping global warming, the righteousness of the GLBT, the wonders of Planned Parenthood, the niceness of Hollywood, the compassion of Hillary/Soros/Obama, etc, etc., he'd be hugged and kissed by the usual-suspects of the left.

He'd be getting stroked by the social-media titans and their mindless-robot employees, by the DNC, by the "non-profits," by groups like the NFL to the limousine liberals of corporate America, by their counterparts in the world of entertainment, by BLM to Antifa, and all the rest.

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People don't like Trump because they think he's leading us to WAR.

It's not Trump. WAR is coming from foreign forces. Trump is the only one with balls enough to be a WAR president.

Any other president would have surrendered. And the Generals other presidents had in place weren't ready for WAR.
 Quoting: MissCleo


War with who?

From where I sit, it appears that our international diplomacy is in the best place it has ever been in my nearly 50 years on the planet.

Sure, France and Germany are grumpy with us, but fuck them. They don't even matter.
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I think out diplomacy is spot on, but man what I have seen the Chinese doing outside of this country is damn crazy. They are like locusts, and trust me they could care less if the whole world was Chinese. I am not trying to fear monger...they will eventually be a threat.
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Agree

China is and will be a problem.

I think we should just turn loose Japan on them and problem solved in like 10 minutes.
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it's like the NORTH VS SOUTH civil war all over again-
they really deceived and brainwashed them good up north
 Quoting: Alice in Black Boots


It is the cities vs the rural mostly, I think.
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I think there is a lot of that going on, but this is starting to become what it was always meant to be...a fight for the survival of the republic. Commies VS Everyone Else
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When around people like that, I enjoy sitting back, listening and observing. I become detached -- like a scientist watching a lower lifeform interacting with other lower life forms. It soon become surreal, as if observing curious little lemmings from another dimension.
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LMAO...perfect!
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People don't like Trump because they think he's leading us to WAR.

It's not Trump. WAR is coming from foreign forces. Trump is the only one with balls enough to be a WAR president.

Any other president would have surrendered. And the Generals other presidents had in place weren't ready for WAR.
 Quoting: MissCleo


War with who?

From where I sit, it appears that our international diplomacy is in the best place it has ever been in my nearly 50 years on the planet.

Sure, France and Germany are grumpy with us, but fuck them. They don't even matter.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


I think out diplomacy is spot on, but man what I have seen the Chinese doing outside of this country is damn crazy. They are like locusts, and trust me they could care less if the whole world was Chinese. I am not trying to fear monger...they will eventually be a threat.
 Quoting: HowlinMadMurphy


Agree

China is and will be a problem.

I think we should just turn loose Japan on them and problem solved in like 10 minutes.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


LOL no shit. I can guarantee you that those Japs have been cooking up doomsday weapons regardless of what treaties may be in place. "This bomb totally disrupt smelly Chinese at molecular level". They hate each other.

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Deeply saddening but not surprising. We are being conquered from within or the attempt is here and strong. Their plan is to do this over the course of time and have done so for decades. It’s just really starting to show their progress. What I think they don’t understand is that America is the only country to know freedom since it’s founding. They won’t win, enough of us will NEVER allow that to happen. But unfortunately it may come a second Civil War. I pray it doesn’t but I know if it does, those that choose to fight for freedom will win...the fucking pussy ass snowflakes have ZERO chance.
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All I can say is this..

A war is coming. Prepare yourself and your families.

One side is going to push socialism, and places like where I live are going to say no, and say no with teeth.

Its not going to end well.
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OP, if the people you met at that party only knew... Europe has turned into a shithole because of migration during the last years. But they'd probably love it because of "diversity" lol ...

But they're right about health care. Health care is good here - for now. But since every third- and fourth-world ape that gets here can claim it the moment he asks for "asylum", it will probably ruin our social systems. New teeth, new heart, new liver - no problemo! The German state pays for it.
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Our nation is lost. Our fellow American sucks.
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no, not all of them. Many are coming to their senses, seeing through the media's lies. The more the media rages irrationally, more people see through them...
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"Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT."

I found the problem.
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Man oh man. That is something else. Very sad to hear this. My kids in college are starting to think this way. Very sad state of affairs in this country
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the Chinese actually control most of the colleges in this country.
I have no idea who can manage to listen to the fat man from Austin or what you think of him ... but today's show would be a good one to see or hear. He was better in his delivery and was serious enough he didn't rant. It was good info ......
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I think the Chinese are the ones pushing the race mixing ads in Australia. They are also buying up Australian property causing a housing bubble.

Chinese are arch communists and this wreaks of being their agenda.

I hope Trump deals with China with equal measure.

China truly is a Godless evil Maoist-Marxist-Leninist-Communist regime.
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I think so many people are lazy about their information
and the rest just want to fit in (both things brought to you by fluoride)

War is hell, I sure hope it doesn't come to that.

We need to be strong and take EVERY opportunity to teach.

I really think some of the politics has led to families and friends breaking up

THAT IS WRONG

Better to not let them divide and conquer

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Deeply saddening but not surprising. We are being conquered from within or the attempt is here and strong. Their plan is to do this over the course of time and have done so for decades. It’s just really starting to show their progress. What I think they don’t understand is that America is the only country to know freedom since it’s founding. They won’t win, enough of us will NEVER allow that to happen. But unfortunately it may come a second Civil War. I pray it doesn’t but I know if it does, those that choose to fight for freedom will win...the fucking pussy ass snowflakes have ZERO chance.
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America has always been a nation of freedom.
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So DOOMED.

READY FOR.A.REAL BLOOD N GUTS CIVIL WAR?

CAUSE ITS COMING FAST.

Wonder what the final spark will be?
JUST FACE IT..

We are ALL DOOMED.

ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

NO ONE GETS OUT OF THIS LIFE ALIVE.
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Man oh man. That is something else. Very sad to hear this. My kids in college are starting to think this way. Very sad state of affairs in this country
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


the Chinese actually control most of the colleges in this country.
I have no idea who can manage to listen to the fat man from Austin or what you think of him ... but today's show would be a good one to see or hear. He was better in his delivery and was serious enough he didn't rant. It was good info ......
 Quoting: Misspurrrrrect
I think the Chinese are the ones pushing the race mixing ads in Australia. They are also buying up Australian property causing a housing bubble.

Chinese are arch communists and this wreaks of being their agenda.

I hope Trump deals with China with equal measure.

China truly is a Godless evil Maoist-Marxist-Leninist-Communist regime.
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Man what I have seen of the Chinese outside the US is not cool.
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So DOOMED.

READY FOR.A.REAL BLOOD N GUTS CIVIL WAR?

CAUSE ITS COMING FAST.

Wonder what the final spark will be?
 Quoting: THE.....DOOM


The answer is love. Love your relatives, and friends. Even if they are idiots. Love them.
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You need to find less friends from socialist states. Very normal people in the midwest.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
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Broward county is a hellhole.
Its full of demon possessed people and you were among them.

They enslave masses of people down here and generate negativity and misery.



Been here over 14 years, praying itsbour last ones un Sodom.
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Ohh, I just have John Titor ringing in my head.

Cities vs. Rural.

Go look at a political map. By geography, the country is Red.

But by population, it's Blue. All centered around Dem welfare mega-cities.
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#OrangeManBad!

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Do these fucking idiots not see the delusions in their statements. The irony of calling someone a racist and then calling him orange because of the color of his skin?

The time has come, let the sun send the EMP. Im done with these morons.
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propoganda media.welcome to iran.we really are no better than them or NK.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.
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Ohh, I just have John Titor ringing in my head.

Cities vs. Rural.

Go look at a political map. By geography, the country is Red.

But by population, it's Blue. All centered around Dem welfare mega-cities.
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Pretty sad, OP but very typical now. That mindset is the result of all the indoctrination people get through the media and through colleges.

I’m sure there’s gonna be a lot more experiences like that posted over the holidays as people get together with family members they don’t see often.

Hope you finish your story and tell us the rest.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Nicomachus


I know it is crazy in America but try Australia!! it is just as bad believe it or not, it seems the left leaning crowd worldwide have been brainwashed.

I have lost friends because of my support for President Trump, family I can see avoid any mention of President Trump around me, here in Australia, can you believe it?


My niece was going to New York during the election, my wife quietly asked her to pick up a MAGA cap for me from Trump Tower, she basically told my wife, her aunty to push off, she was not going to support a man like him buy buying any of his merchandise, can you believe it here in Australia?


I cannot believe the hate here, I ran into some friends in a big hardware store during the election, we were talking and the American election came up once they caught on I was supporting Donald Trump to become President, it ended in a screaming fight, not by me by them, can you believe it in Australia??

I guess we don't have it as bad as America but it is pretty bad, we have more numbskulls running our country but rational talk can be had about our sorry state of affairs but mention President Trump and mention you support him, people you thought you knew turn crazy and nasty … why?

I now support in silence, I follow news online about President Trump and share nothing with anyone except my wife and son, I do not need to debate my stance on President Trump at family gatherings and barbeques with friends, because they only spit out media spin about President Trump.
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Just got back from Ft Lauderdale. Last night my wife and I were invited to our friend's 5th anniversary party. About 150 people were there. Many people flew down from NY/NJ/CT. We knew some people there including some from my wife's family. It was also a celebration for our friend's father who is a Nam vet who they celebrated as well.

The party started out nice, hors d'oeuvres, top shelf open bar, mingling with old friends etc. The usual repertoire.

Finally dinner was served. By this time the mood had already begun to shift as the topic of politics came up and boy, did it go down from there. I've never seen anything like it. I'm actually still feeling ill over what transpired and it doesn't bode well for this nation.

For those who don't wish to read the details of this drama, I'll summarize what about 50% of the people there said---

1- Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler and a racist.
2- Trump has brought "instability" and has made America "ungovernable." Trump has divided America by race. (Incredible since the media and the Dems are the very ones doing this! NOT TRUMP!!!!!!!!)
3- Trump has ties to Russia and Putin and they want to destroy America. (My head is spinning)
4- "SOCIALISM is the answer." (No really, that was repeated MULTIPLE time as if they are all reading the same leftwing newspaper)
5- America is founded in hate and slavery and unless we give blacks all the political positions things will never change (this from white people)
6- EUROPE is what America should be like. Europe is safe and people are happy. They don't have guns. No crime. No violence. Europe is perfection. (Again this is not an exaggeration or hyperbole. I heard this shit from multiple people, NONE of which have ever lived there as I have and NONE of which watch anything other than MSNBC, ABC etc) Again, none of these people actually LIVED there. They only heard about it from the media. Let that sink in WHO the enemy is.
7- The government should tell you what cars you can and can't buy and FORCE people to buy healthcare so everyone can have healthcare.
8- Ban ALL guns. Even POLICE should not carry guns, but stun guns and pepper spray are ok for Police. Common people SHOULD NOT have access to any weapon. (This told to me by one FAT, recently divorced white female and others agreed with her)
9- Higher taxes are ok if it makes the world a better place. (In other words, the government is the solution too all the world's problems)
10- Letting hundreds of millions of people come into our country is NOT ok (surprising!) but we don't need borders because borders are evil because Trump wants them and they are racist (again, makes no sense since they don't think everyone should come here, but yet a border is not needed..)
11- The media IS biased against Trump and Republicans but that is GOOD because the media is right and the Republicans are bad...
12- World peace can be achieved if all nations give up their weapons and follow the United Nations as a ONE WORLD ORDER. Nation sovereignty is BAD. Nationalism is BAD. Capitalism is BAD. America is BAD. I asked about North Korea, China, Russia etc giving up their weapons. They said they will if America gives up her's first!
13- The government must force people to do things they don't want to do like become vegetarians and drive electric cars to stop global warming. It was suggested that a European like carbon/energy tax is necessary. I asked if people knew that energy is so cost prohibitive in Europe that most people can't afford air-conditioning? They said they did not know that. I asked do poor people have the right to air-conditioning. They said yes they should if everyone else has it.
14- Your individual rights and freedoms are not important. The greater good for all people is more important. Your rights to choose how you want to live is not guaranteed by the US constitution!! I immediately blew up and said YES IT FUCKING IS GO READ IT! They responded that the constitution needs to be rewritten or abolished for a modern global society. The Bill of right is outdated.
15- Christianity is bad. Islam is good. Christianity is bad because it takes a hard line against ABORTION which is a human RIGHT!!! Islam is more open to change than Chrisitianity! Christians need to accept and embrace abortion, even late term. Abortion is the most important human right after health insurance.
16- When our friend's 76 year old father was introduced to celebrate veteran's day, many of these same people didn't bother to get out of their chairs. Clapping was from our side (patriots, the service members that were there). It was awkward as fuck and our friend's father could see it. We all could see it. His daughter definitely saw it. We later congratulated him in person and he was almost in tears because he said people like him are no longer welcome. I said, he will always be invited and loved by REAL Americans. We talked for a long time after and that was the sole bright spot of the evening.
17- Fox news and Breitbart are evil right wing racist news media. They should be banned. Free speech laws needs to be changed.

Those are the main points and it created heated discussions. These people have NO clue about the reality of the world. I asked these same people to name ONE working socialist nation. They said Europe. Germany. Sweden. etc. I asked if they knew that people pay 50% income tax there. They said no. I asked if they knew that socialized healthcare creates LONG waits for simple procedures and that more and more Europeans are buying PRIVATE health insurance so they have get better care. They said no except a woman from Canada who said socialized healthcare is actually not that great for the average person but good for poor people only. She was attacked for saying that because the brainwashed sheep said socialized health insurance is so wonderful and human right. I asked if personal liability insurance is a right. They said no. I asked why not. They said because it is not needed. I said health insurance is insurance like any other insurance. I asked what else is a right. They said access to food and water. I said, even if they don't want to work? They said yes. So human rights that should be granted to everyone - abortion, money, food, water, health insurance, housing. Who's going to pay for it? They said everyone. I shook my head in disgust.

Moving on to protecting one's life, they said guns are EVIL. I asked what if someone attacks you - do you have the right to defend yourself? They said no, you should run away. I asked if a woman had a knife and was about to get raped should she stab the man. They said NO! She should scream as loud as she can but not take his life. My wife was listening to this one and she just was silent and shocked. She walked away. That was about the time we left which was early. The place was rented until midnight. We left around 10 which is unusual for my wife who lives to dance and usually is burning up the dance floor. But I noted the dance floor was generally empty despite the DJ doing his best work to get people up there. We went back to out hotel and left first thing this morning.

In the end, we felt out of place like our nation is dead on the inside already. I only estimate about half of the people were anti-Americans but I could be wrong. The older people there (50+) tended to be patriots and 100000000% Trump supporters. An older man about 60+ said he is ready to retire and join a militia group if it comes to that. All the mil guys I think already are. I think all of the anti-Americans were from NY/NJ/CT. All the patriots were from here in Florida, Georgia.

I have a lot more to tell you but that is the gist of last night. I think I'm going to drink myself to sleep tonight... I love all you patriots out there who still love this country! Peace.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Nicomachus


Sounds like every single holiday at my libtard bro and sis-in-law's house in their gay little artsy fartsy town.

I actually stopped talking to about 99% of people including my family after the 2016 election and I don't miss a thing.

Nothing but guilt-tripping and virtue-signaling.

Fuck em, don't need their BS.
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Amen, brother.
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One of the best posts I've ever read here. Cuts to the core of America's problems - most of which are mental. It figures that a bunch of Yankees would be pro-commie, anti-freedom. It's a long tradition there.

Looks like a fight for the soul of this country. If most people just don't care or are unwilling to sacrifice for freedom then the globalists just might win. I'd hate to think we'd have to take out our fellow citizens to save our country but we are the last bastion of freedom on the planet. If we can't save freedom it will disappear for 1,000 years. That long walk in to darkness that Reagan spoke of will become reality. Not for my children or my grandchildren if I can help it. If the time comes I'm ready to give up everything. Patriots need a call sign and hand sign to recognize each other. I suggest the 3 fingers up for 3%.
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