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Agenda 21 hello. Fires and relocation.

 
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Yes the forest must burn. However those fires from the past were not usually man created they did not come with plastic and whatever combination of chemicals you find in building materials. Beyond that a lot of these people do not have proper insurance to rebuild. Displacing people who many fear rebuilding in these areas anyway.
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So, many reacting to Trump's callous tweet by saying it's federal land "management" that is the problem, not California, are correct?

I don't doubt that about the Greens infiltrating the Forest Service. Maybe not the "Green Party", per se, but that communist/pagan/nature worship/people hating mindset. They are Malthusians. Georgia Guidestones, if you will.

What makes you say that about the spotted owl? Do you have evidence or is it more of a hunch? I believe the same types planted cougars east of the Mississippi, in places where they had long been rooted out - to the extreme benefit of humans. Suddenly, mountain lions started appearing in places where there never had been any in anyone's living memory. Very fishy. All it takes is ONE rich person, like a Ted Turner, to make that happen.

A year or two ago I got an email from the Sierra Club. I've never been a member, don't like them and have no idea how I made their list. I opened it and you know what it was about, in the headline? POPULATION CONTROL.
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When I say greens, you understood that I was referring to the Green Religion not the party.

The bit about the owls was told to me by a senior guy in the logging industry. That was in 1992. The loggers knew that people were planting owls in the forest to prevent planned logging.

My major point is that the lousy forest management is the fault of the bureaucrats in charge.

If I was the Prez, I would fire the entire Forest Service and hire a contractor company to provide the same services. If we just started cutting firebreaks, opening old roads, grazing, and logging, we could cut the severity of the fires by 90%.

Hell, it would turn a profit for the country while providing jobs!
 Quoting: darth


Oh, "green religion". Okay. The pagan commie Malthusians. The "party" is just the political arm of the same mindset, even if not directly related. It's a death cult and the young people that get drawn in don't realize it.

I'm skeptical about the owls. I don't know how anyone could plant birds since they can fly back to where they came from.

That's interesting how old photos showed grassland with a few trees where forests now stand. I'd love to see some side by side comparisons.

Are you familiar with that Deborah Tavares lady?
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The logging exec I met in 1992 explained that the greens had a secret breeding facility for spotted owls.

When a section of forest came up for logging, they would release an owl or two in that area and then "observe" that the birds were there.

If the owls were within a certain distance, the logging would be canceled.

I saw the old photos vs. new photos of the Sierras at a Ranger Station when I was backpacking. I'll bet you can find similar examples with a web search. The Sierras naturally burned off every few years before the modern practice of putting out forest fires.

Remember, the original idea behind putting out forest fires was to have more trees for LOGGING. Timber used to be a major industry in those mountains.

BTW, as a hunter, having the forests cover the mountains is BAD. There are few forbs and grasses below the trees for the deer to eat. When the trees start dying , there are lots of bugs, grubs, and mushrooms for the bears. Current trend is fewer deer and more bears.

I have seen the Tavares video. Yes, there is a widespread green religion that supports Agenda 21.

If anyone is really interested, just join the Sierra Club or some environmental group and LISTEN while keeping your mouth shut. They will tell you exactly what they plan to do!
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Good post and very informative. Now, I can see how they could have done that with owls.

When I was young (64 now) I, too, believed the "environment" needed extreme protection. That's what I mean about misguided young people getting sucked into the wrong path. Back then, I just thought that old growth (1000-2000 yrs old) giant redwoods were being cut down for lumber so was sympathetic to the tree huggers. It was a simplistic lack of understanding of complex subject which, I think, is the case with a lot of younger people. I still feel the environment needs protection but over the years I've learned about the Malthusians and how they've manipulated legit concerns by the uninformed.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Agenda 21 duh.
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They're up to date on it I'm afraid
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Agenda 21 duh.
 Quoting: El Pato


I don't buy into the laser beam bullshit or whatever, but I do believe environmentalism has been funded by globalists to drive people from rural areas.
 Quoting: The Ghost of Comedian


For crying out loud... The overall 20 year drought in California coincides perfectly with the Geoengineering going on, as does the "climate change" fervor.

Of COURSE the climate is changing. That';s what happens when you spend 10's of BILLIONS of dollars fucking with it!
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Agenda 21 duh.
 Quoting: El Pato


I don't buy into the laser beam bullshit or whatever, but I do believe environmentalism has been funded by globalists to drive people from rural areas.
 Quoting: The Ghost of Comedian


For crying out loud... The overall 20 year drought in California coincides perfectly with the Geoengineering going on, as does the "climate change" fervor.

Of COURSE the climate is changing. That';s what happens when you spend 10's of BILLIONS of dollars fucking with it!
 Quoting: Bullshit Terminator


Heard that asshole, Jerry Brown, on a livestream earlier. He said this (the fires) wasn't the new normal but the new abnormal and it was going to get worse for the next 20 years because CLIMATE CHANGE. I felt he was telegraphing an Agenda 21 cleansing.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.


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These are people causing the fires? Like a Green family or grass?
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This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.


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These are people causing the fires? Like a Green family or grass?
 Quoting: Diabolical


Green = radical communist environmentalist pagans who want all human beings banned or severely restricted from rural and wild land areas.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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The fire-breathing (blue laser) DRAGON has been awakened...

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I think they want to sell our mining and timber resources to China for example and even give large sections of the country to other nations to build cities on, without us knowing, like Hillary and Harry Reid were up to.
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I think they want to sell our mining and timber resources to China for example and even give large sections of the country to other nations to build cities on, without us knowing, like Hillary and Harry Reid were up to.
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Yes, fact is, China owns us
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I think they want to sell our mining and timber resources to China for example and even give large sections of the country to other nations to build cities on, without us knowing, like Hillary and Harry Reid were up to.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


Yes, fact is, China owns owes us
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FIFY, Chinese and Europeans owe us big time for all the American blood lost on saving their ass. If I were POTUS, I'd tell EU and Chinese to go fuck themselves and pay us retributions for saving their ass (WW1 EU, WW2 EU, East Asia).
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