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Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
The following are just my thoughts and opinions.

Would love to hear your angle on them.
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What is "taking the red pill"?
Some say it is about getting the truth and accepting it.

That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies.

In my opinion "taking the red pill" is accepting that you see that you have been lied to on one or more important subjects, maybe even your whole life.

Now you start yourself looking for the truth.

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"That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies."

That's always a risk.

As someone who had the unfortunate luck of being the fly on the wall for a few, well, actual conspiracies, I usually just sit back gape-jawed watching ordinary people try to figure it out by fighting back and forth over two equally absurd mistruths while the real criminals just keep going about their business unfazed.

But, such is life.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
5G and its problems and hidden goals.

I think 5G is even more unhealthy than the previous systems.

I know it can and probably will be used as an effective carrier for mind influencing signals. Effectively hidden instructions aimed at the general population.

There is this other thing I want you to consider.

Using the current network a persons location can be found by checking the distance to the nearest GSM towers.
Though that works without GPS, is is far from accurate.

The fact that 5G needs a whole myriad of towers to work makes it also a very efficient locator, without the need for GPS.

Now place also a camera on the same streetlamp.
Bingo, facial recognition linked to the Imei of the phone you carry.
From then on you can be recognized by a bunch of biometrics. Not only your face from all kind of angles, your clothing but also your personal walking pattern.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
"That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies."

then it would also be a blue pill, as red = truth, blue = illusion, a new one, maybe a different shade of blue
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The fact that 5G needs a whole myriad of towers to work makes it also a very efficient locator, without the need for GPS.

Now place also a camera on the same streetlamp.
Bingo, facial recognition linked to the Imei of the phone you carry.
From then on you can be recognized by a bunch of biometrics. Not only your face from all kind of angles, your clothing but also your personal walking pattern.
 Quoting: grumpier


That's a terrifying thought.

I leave a trail on purpose, because being beneath the covers left me more at risk in this life - it's like living in a dark alley - but I can definitely recognize the ordinary need for privacy and an extra 2 minutes head start to run.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
"That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies."

then it would also be a blue pill, as red = truth, blue = illusion, a new one, maybe a different shade of blue
 Quoting: Ostria1


Nah, purple just combines the two mistruths. You need to step away from the table, back up, and see why people are maneuvering the way they are, rather than looking at the cards they're playing face-up on the table.

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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
For example, here's a basic conspiracy.

A - Obama is a citizen
B - Obama is from somewhere in Africa (sorry, I genuinely forgot)

B plays off A by resisting it and going in a different direction while acknowledging that there are inconsistencies in his story.

The answer is actually different than either of those, in fact, the man we know as Obama was not old enough to be president when he was first elected.

But because B seemed like a reasonable contra-response to A, and there was something fishy about A, people ran with it.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
On remote viewing, out of the body experiences and astral travel.

Remote viewing

Your ethereal body stay in your normal body.
Your soul stays in your normal body.
Your mind acts a bit like a amoebe, part of it goes on travel but stays connected.
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Out of the body experience.

Your soul and mind stay in contact with your body( via the golden thread) while traveling together with your ethereal body.
Faster than light travel not possible this way.
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Astral travel.

Your ethereal body is fully disconnected from your body an your soul and mind are traveling in that ethereal body.
Far more speed and reach than possible with Oobe .
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The fist one is the least dangerous.
The last one is the most dangerous.
Oobe is potentially dangerous.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
"That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies."

then it would also be a blue pill, as red = truth, blue = illusion, a new one, maybe a different shade of blue
 Quoting: Ostria1


Nah, purple just combines the two mistruths. You need to step away from the table, back up, and see why people are maneuvering the way they are, rather than looking at the cards they're playing face-up on the table.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Usually we say, you can tell what was the purpose of an action from its results, though this is not very safe either.
I guess it is really complicated, as we are all pre-occupied with own ideas and stepping back from them, is the most difficult task.
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"That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies."

then it would also be a blue pill, as red = truth, blue = illusion, a new one, maybe a different shade of blue
 Quoting: Ostria1


Nah, purple just combines the two mistruths. You need to step away from the table, back up, and see why people are maneuvering the way they are, rather than looking at the cards they're playing face-up on the table.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Usually we say, you can tell what was the purpose of an action from its results, though this is not very safe either.
I guess it is really complicated, as we are all pre-occupied with own ideas and stepping back from them, is the most difficult task.
 Quoting: Ostria1


The easiest way I describe figuring out what things are is to consider them the same way as you would a cat under a blanket.

You see a lump, if you move your foot near it, chances are you'll feel claws in your skin. After a while, you can be fairly certain it's a cat. Sure, you may not know if its a black cat or a tabby - but it's definitely a cat.

Figuring out peoples motivation is the same way - if you observe what influence they are trying to create on the world around them, after a while you will be able to determine their general motive. Will you ever know if that motivation has stripes or if its a solid color? Maybe not, but you know what its purpose is.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
Choices.

From very early age we are trained to chose between two.

Like...good and bad.
Hot and cold.
Love and hate.
Run or fight.
Even our IT era was based on it, the zero and the one.

If I ask people to look for the third choice most automatically look along the line that connects two choices.

Like black vs white...they will look for a fitting grey.

If you are between a rock and a hard place...look sideways for a solution.
There is Always a third choice...look for it and recognize it.
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Re: Just some thoughts and opinions on red pill,5G,RV/Oobe/AT and choices
"That could also be accepting a second set of pre prepared lies."

then it would also be a blue pill, as red = truth, blue = illusion, a new one, maybe a different shade of blue
 Quoting: Ostria1


Nah, purple just combines the two mistruths. You need to step away from the table, back up, and see why people are maneuvering the way they are, rather than looking at the cards they're playing face-up on the table.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Usually we say, you can tell what was the purpose of an action from its results, though this is not very safe either.
I guess it is really complicated, as we are all pre-occupied with own ideas and stepping back from them, is the most difficult task.
 Quoting: Ostria1


Those ideas did mostly not originate from you, you adopted them, they were force fed to you...indoctrination at work.
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Choices.

From very early age we are trained to chose between two.

Like...good and bad.
Hot and cold.
Love and hate.
Run or fight.
Even our IT era was based on it, the zero and the one.

If I ask people to look for the third choice most automatically look along the line that connects two choices.

Like black vs white...they will look for a fitting grey.

If you are between a rock and a hard place...look sideways for a solution.
There is Always a third choice...look for it and recognize it.
 Quoting: grumpier


I was never taught in the binary.

Although, it's been fun to dip my toe into with the current regime.

Most of the time you can look at a problem between two people and realize they're both only seeing one side, and are thus missing the whole picture, which has plenty of solutions to offer.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Have you read Babbitt?

He observed a thing about colour and the colour spectrum....you are intelligent, what do you think of what he notated?

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2 working days of reading. That is what it would cost a semi-intelligent person who can read to understand what was written by him.

Have you read bailey? That shit was also floating around for years before I read it for myself.

I was pretty angry after that.
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Have you read Babbitt?

He observed a thing about colour and the colour spectrum....you are intelligent, what do you think of what he notated?
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You are micro managing now.
If you would have to think about color, think outside the visible color spectrum.
From one Hertz to the gamma rays, all of that, besides the visible color spectrum.
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You edited my post. or tried to.

Have you read bailey? also? all of them?

It took a cursory full read after the first two, planted in a town library. To know shits funky and wrong.....are you part of the 'wrong'?

3/11/2018 9:43pm

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Have you read Babbitt?

He observed a thing about colour and the colour spectrum....you are intelligent, what do you think of what he notated?
 Quoting: lythandewilder


You are micro managing now.
If you would have to think about color, think outside the visible color spectrum.
From one Hertz to the gamma rays, all of that, besides the visible color spectrum.
 Quoting: grumpier


I was actually thinking up how to word a piece for idiots, about why an asteroid belt was intentional and also, used to be a planet....thanks for saving me the trouble.
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Have you read Babbitt?

He observed a thing about colour and the colour spectrum....you are intelligent, what do you think of what he notated?
 Quoting: lythandewilder


You are micro managing now.
If you would have to think about color, think outside the visible color spectrum.
From one Hertz to the gamma rays, all of that, besides the visible color spectrum.
 Quoting: grumpier


I was actually thinking up how to word a piece for idiots, about why an asteroid belt was intentional and also, used to be a planet....thanks for saving me the trouble.
 Quoting: lythandewilder


That's micro managing....just in case you missed it.
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Don't get the red or blue pill. Never did watch the matrix I'm guessing this is were it came from.

Truth takes no pills to change ones mind. Only lies need you to take a pill be it blue red or purple.

Truth doesn't need a pill.
Truth is trust yourself.
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but you know what its purpose is.
 Quoting: Ostria1


No you don't.

That's bullshit.


The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s.
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morons.
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Those ideas did mostly not originate from you, you adopted them, they were force fed to you...indoctrination at work.
 Quoting: grumpier


This is valid for most of them, but still you carry them. On the other hand there are personal ideas, from your own experience.


but you know what its purpose is.
 Quoting: Ostria1


No you don't.
That's bullshit.
The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


what are you talking about? you probably missed the rest of my post, but still i dont see why you get so angry
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"No you don't.
That's bullshit.
The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s."


Heyyyyyy. I didn't write that but it's got my name in it.

Bloody quote fail.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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"No you don't.
That's bullshit.
The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s."


Heyyyyyy. I didn't write that but it's got my name in it.

Bloody quote fail.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I see but have no clue how that happened...
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"No you don't.
That's bullshit.
The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s."


Heyyyyyy. I didn't write that but it's got my name in it.

Bloody quote fail.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I see but have no clue how that happened...
 Quoting: grumpier


1dunno1

There are already enough things I'm responsible for in life.

I'm not putting my brand on anyone else's.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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"No you don't.
That's bullshit.
The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s."


Heyyyyyy. I didn't write that but it's got my name in it.

Bloody quote fail.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


lol sorry then. Strange
hf

oh lythandewilder and i misquoted him, sorry again!

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"No you don't.
That's bullshit.
The problem is all those (yourself included) who want to pick 'their' story as THE story, and the reality is No PERSON alive today wants that story, you all are trying to flog as actual/real, and not fantasy/made up, in your own mind/s."


Heyyyyyy. I didn't write that but it's got my name in it.

Bloody quote fail.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


lol sorry then. Strange
hf

oh lythandewilder and i misquoted him, sorry again!
 Quoting: Ostria1


No worries. hf
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Anyway, i was looking at the new insect robots.. scary stuff if they ever get used against people..
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Choices.

From very early age we are trained to chose between two.

Like...good and bad.
Hot and cold.
Love and hate.
Run or fight.
Even our IT era was based on it, the zero and the one.

If I ask people to look for the third choice most automatically look along the line that connects two choices.

Like black vs white...they will look for a fitting grey.

If you are between a rock and a hard place...look sideways for a solution.
There is Always a third choice...look for it and recognize it.
 Quoting: grumpier


Just try to imagine IT based on multi level stages instead of a two stage setup.
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All of our attempts to understand the world create different mental models. All of those models are flawed.

I discovered the red pill on Reddit several years ago. As a man who was raised by a single mother, it was an eye opening experience that explained a lot of my personal issues with women and even some at work. It was incalculably helpful to me and my life improved from it.

All of that being said, it doesn't mean that my understanding is perfect or that I accept all of the things that people say are "red pill truths". It did get me a little closer to whatever the basic truth of being a man and dealing with women in this period of time is.

I'm certain there are other levels of understanding and maybe I'll live long enough to get to a couple more.





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