Warning: Sick; ‘How-to’ Manual Found in Al Qaeda Safe House Shows Disturbing Torture | |
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Fool User ID: 242965 Canada 05/27/2007 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you sure thats not a recount/diary of what happened to a person in our capture? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 242875Oh and its called "enhanced interrogation techniques" get a clue fox is straight out of the prez cabinet no no... U.S. has methods that won't leave any physical scars afterwards... very effective |
malu
User ID: 206474 United States 05/27/2007 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all countries use some form of torture if i had a person in my possession, and my daughter was missing, and he knew where she was, is torture justified? i don't really give a shit, the fucker "will talk" :) "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Fool User ID: 242965 Canada 05/27/2007 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all countries use some form of torture Quoting: maluif i had a person in my possession, and my daughter was missing, and he knew where she was, is torture justified? i don't really give a shit, the fucker "will talk" :) How do you know he knows? That's where the problems start |
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User ID: 206474 United States 05/27/2007 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all countries use some form of torture Quoting: Fool 242965if i had a person in my possession, and my daughter was missing, and he knew where she was, is torture justified? i don't really give a shit, the fucker "will talk" :) How do you know he knows? That's where the problems start i guess you glossed over the part "and he knew where she was" i did not say,, i suspected he knew where she was thats where that problem started, reading comprehension :) "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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Fool User ID: 242965 Canada 05/27/2007 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i guess you glossed over the part "and he knew where she was" Quoting: malui did not say,, i suspected he knew where she was thats where that problem started, reading comprehension :) The problem still comes in how you're getting your information. You might think you know for sure, but you still don't, and if you were so sure... chances are torture wouldn't be needed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 208180 United States 05/27/2007 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only if torture remains illegal will the user of it have to justify his actions. Without an attached penalty for its use the gates to hell are left wide open. Hell should be locked and the key left where everybody can see it. Duh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 208180 United States 05/27/2007 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only if torture remains illegal will the user of it have to justify his actions. Without an attached penalty for its use the gates to hell are left wide open. Hell should be locked and the key left where everybody can see it. Duh. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 208180Double 'duh' now that I think about it. |
malu
User ID: 206474 United States 05/27/2007 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i guess you glossed over the part "and he knew where she was" Quoting: Fool 242965i did not say,, i suspected he knew where she was thats where that problem started, reading comprehension :) The problem still comes in how you're getting your information. You might think you know for sure, but you still don't, and if you were so sure... chances are torture wouldn't be needed you are assuming a lot none the less i would peel his skin and slowly extract his eyes until he screamed like a little school girl and gave me my information ok,, i have to run along to my next therapy session :) "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 243009 United States 05/27/2007 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WASHINGTON — Al Qaeda terrorists use blow torches, electric drills and meat cleavers to torture and force information out of their victims, according to a "how-to" book discovered in a terrorist safe house in Iraq. The Defense Department recently released disturbing images and cartoons showing how to torture a captive found by American forces during a raid on a Al Qaeda safe house a few weeks ago. They also found photos of tortured Iraqi victims. Click here to view the Al Qaeda 'torture handbook.' The book guides followers of Al Qaeda how to interrogate and torture captives. The drawings and cartoons depict ways to use electric drills and irons, meat cleavers and other devices to force victims to talk or harm them. Some of the drawings show how to drill hands, sever limbs, drag victims behind cars, remove eyes, put a blowtorch or iron to someone’s skin, suspend a person from a ceiling and electrocute them, break limbs and restrict breath and put someone’s head in a vice. Items found at the safe house include electric drills, hammers, blow torches, meat cleavers, pliers and wire cutters, chains, screw drivers, whips and handcuffs. Earlier this week U.S. troops found the information near Baghdad, along with five Iraqis being held. Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters Thursday that Al Qaeda poses a dangerous threat to the United States for years to come. "Clearly, whatever military advice we give, both in Iraq and regionally, must take into account that this group — of Al Qaeda — has targeted free nations, to include the United States, and how our long-term plan and our long-term recommendations must deal with that very real threat to the United States," Pace said at a Pentagon briefing. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the United States continues to direct most efforts to defeating Al Qaeda, but he predicted insurgents in Iraq will ramp up attacks this summer "I think the worry that we have is clearly what we have seen over the past year: that whatever progress is made — and particularly in the last few months — often is overshadowed when Al Qaeda will launch a major attack that kills a lot of innocent civilian Iraqis," Gates said. [link to www.foxnews.com] 'NUFF SAID!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 156123 United States 05/27/2007 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only if torture remains illegal will the user of it have to justify his actions. Without an attached penalty for its use the gates to hell are left wide open. Hell should be locked and the key left where everybody can see it. Duh. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 208180how true. too bad rumsfeld and company opened the gates of hell. torture does not equate knowledge of some happening. from past readings it simply seems to bring on false information to get it to stop. cia handbook. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 156123 United States 05/27/2007 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | items found in most country homes...perhaps the handcuffs were due to army presence? or some kink...but allowable. |
malu
User ID: 206474 United States 05/27/2007 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Queda Torture Manual a Fake? The Pentagon released what it’s calling an Al Queda torture manual. Pictures from the manual can be found at The Smoking Gun. Looking at these pictures raises a few questions: 1) Why do terrorists need a manual to tell them how to torture people? Are terrorists so unimaginative that beating people, burning them, and prying their eyes out needs to be taught in a manual? From what the pictures show, there is nothing technically sophisticated about these torture methods. They depict torture methods even the nicest person would think of if he put his mind to it. 2) Why do the illustrations look more meant for dramatic effect than for instruction? "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 242998 United States 05/27/2007 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh please, they just tore out the pages from an interrogation manual at Langley, scotch taped an Arabic cover, fedex'd to wherever they had they press gaggle in Iraq and announced "Look, bright shiny object!" This stretches all credibility when there are people walking around with dog bites and trauma wounds, dilated rectums and severe PTSD from Abu Gharib and about a dozen other nasty little cia/mosaad clubhouses in Iraq, Poland, Cuba, Egypt, Kahzekstan, Israel. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 156123 United States 05/27/2007 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats really sick man. The whips and hadcuffs should definitly stay in the bed room! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 208180oh gersh...spread it out...to the kitchen even...or the entry...the laundry room...lots of vibrational things...don't keep it to only one room. |
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User ID: 243028 Mexico 05/27/2007 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the picture number 10 you can see how that book and pictures where make it for Americans ... the arm of the guy with gloves is white.... and there is an annotation close to the neck that says: 60" that means 60 inches.... USA is the only country that don't use a metric system.. Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
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User ID: 243028 Mexico 05/27/2007 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you remember the video of a kidnapped guy who has beheaded on camera? the guys have gold watch... all of them where whites and even the mask could not cover their blue eyes. the guy who was murder on camera has a uniform from the USA detention center... USA says it was kidnapped from it facilities.. but guess what? even the chair was part of the USA detention facility... they kidnap the guy and a chair?? The video proof it where Americans the killers. Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
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User ID: 243028 Mexico 05/27/2007 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to iraqwar.mirror-world.ru] Iraqi Resistance Report for events of Wednesday, 12 October 2005 By: Muhammad Abu Nasr on: 13.10.2005 [04:28 ] (10926 reads) ·Iraqis apprehend two Americans disguised as Arabs trying to detonate car bomb in a residential neighborhood of western Baghdad’s al-Ghazaliyah district on Tuesday. Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 220562 United States 05/27/2007 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you remember the video of a kidnapped guy who has beheaded on camera? Quoting: féru.the guys have gold watch... all of them where whites and even the mask could not cover their blue eyes. the guy who was murder on camera has a uniform from the USA detention center... USA says it was kidnapped from it facilities.. but guess what? even the chair was part of the USA detention facility... they kidnap the guy and a chair?? The video proof it where Americans the killers. The fact that the terrorists chair and the Abu Gharib chair was the same just proves that the Pentagon and the Nick Berg decapitators both shop at the same Baghdad Walmart. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 233978 United States 05/28/2007 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all countries use some form of torture Quoting: maluif i had a person in my possession, and my daughter was missing, and he knew where she was, is torture justified? i don't really give a shit, the fucker "will talk" :) Just curious Malu. How do you REALLY know that the person you have 'knows' anything? How could you be sure? How can anyone unless they themselves tell you that they do? |
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User ID: 243028 Mexico 05/28/2007 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you remember the video of a kidnapped guy who has beheaded on camera? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 220562the guys have gold watch... all of them where whites and even the mask could not cover their blue eyes. the guy who was murder on camera has a uniform from the USA detention center... USA says it was kidnapped from it facilities.. but guess what? even the chair was part of the USA detention facility... they kidnap the guy and a chair?? The video proof it where Americans the killers. The fact that the terrorists chair and the Abu Gharib chair was the same just proves that the Pentagon and the Nick Berg decapitators both shop at the same Baghdad Walmart. Muslims men can not wear gold. The guys on the video had gold rins and gold watches... Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 160503 United States 05/28/2007 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Queda Torture Manual a Fake? Quoting: maluThe Pentagon released what it’s calling an Al Queda torture manual. Pictures from the manual can be found at The Smoking Gun. Looking at these pictures raises a few questions: 1) Why do terrorists need a manual to tell them how to torture people? Are terrorists so unimaginative that beating people, burning them, and prying their eyes out needs to be taught in a manual? From what the pictures show, there is nothing technically sophisticated about these torture methods. They depict torture methods even the nicest person would think of if he put his mind to it. 2) Why do the illustrations look more meant for dramatic effect than for instruction? your not suppossed to ask those questions. |