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Cancer is so expensive to treat that 42% of patients deplete their entire life's assets to afford treatment within the first 2 years says study

 
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Across 9.5 million estimated new diagnoses of cancer from 2000–2012, individuals averaged 68.6±9.4 years with slight majorities being married (54.7%), not retired (51.1%), and Medicare beneficiaries (56.6%). At year+2, 42.4% depleted their entire life's assets, with higher adjusted odds associated with worsening cancer, requirement of continued treatment, demographic and socioeconomic factors (ie, female, Medicaid, uninsured, retired, increasing age, income, and household size), and clinical characteristics (ie, current smoker, worse self-reported health, hypertension, diabetes, lung disease) (P<.05); average losses were $92,098. At year+4, financial insolvency extended to 38.2%, with several consistent socioeconomic, cancer-related, and clinical characteristics remaining significant predictors of complete asset depletion.

Conclusions
This nationally-representative investigation of an initially-estimated 9.5 million newly-diagnosed persons with cancer who were &#8805;50 years of age found a substantial proportion incurring financial toxicity. As large financial burdens have been found to adversely affect access to care and outcomes among cancer patients, the active development of approaches to mitigate these effects among already vulnerable groups remains of key importance.

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All that and the cancer still kills you in the long run
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Unless you live in most of the first world countries.
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I knew a couple who blew over 3 million and she still died. Poor old man who had made a fortune, lost everything. Very sad.
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Re: Cancer is so expensive to treat that 42% of patients deplete their entire life's assets to afford treatment within the first 2 years says study
Or you can get a pound of cannabis, a gallon of Everclear and make oil for less than 3k, cure cancer.

Too many toxins are killing us and keeping us sick as part of the control paradigm.
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Re: Cancer is so expensive to treat that 42% of patients deplete their entire life's assets to afford treatment within the first 2 years says study
Unless you live in most of the first world countries.
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Yes. Treatment is free here. Doesn't help most of the time tho.
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and the treatment for it Chemotherapy fails 95% of the time
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and the treatment for it Chemotherapy fails 95% of the time
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I guess it depends on the study. What I've read shows chemo fails within 7 years 97% of the time.

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All part of the plan. Allow hundreds of cancer causing substances in your food, water and drugs, let you work a lifetime, then collect all YOUR money when you finally get cancer. Works much better than concentration camps, the illusion of freedom and caring keeps the idiot cattle asleep. The end result? you're dead and they have all your money!

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Sadly that's the point. It's also why the cure isn't being found just more expensive treatment. Imagine we find out there's been a known cure for decades.
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Re: Cancer is so expensive to treat that 42% of patients deplete their entire life's assets to afford treatment within the first 2 years says study
Unless you live in most of the first world countries.
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Yes. Treatment is free here. Doesn't help most of the time tho.
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paid by the high taxes....

not any more free than the free school lunches here...

I worked in the Germany system as a Krankenpflegehelferin decades ago.

don't know how it works for cancer treatments now - back then there was not much.

thanks for the article.

indirect costs, even if treatment is free, are very high.

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It's a real shame for all the people in the US. Maybe one day they'll get first world status.
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I think cancer is the reason they won't allow the US to get free health care, too expensive to treat 40 million for cancer
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Re: Cancer is so expensive to treat that 42% of patients deplete their entire life's assets to afford treatment within the first 2 years says study
Results
Across 9.5 million estimated new diagnoses of cancer from 2000–2012, individuals averaged 68.6±9.4 years with slight majorities being married (54.7%), not retired (51.1%), and Medicare beneficiaries (56.6%). At year+2, 42.4% depleted their entire life's assets, with higher adjusted odds associated with worsening cancer, requirement of continued treatment, demographic and socioeconomic factors (ie, female, Medicaid, uninsured, retired, increasing age, income, and household size), and clinical characteristics (ie, current smoker, worse self-reported health, hypertension, diabetes, lung disease) (P<.05); average losses were $92,098. At year+4, financial insolvency extended to 38.2%, with several consistent socioeconomic, cancer-related, and clinical characteristics remaining significant predictors of complete asset depletion.

Conclusions
This nationally-representative investigation of an initially-estimated 9.5 million newly-diagnosed persons with cancer who were &#8805;50 years of age found a substantial proportion incurring financial toxicity. As large financial burdens have been found to adversely affect access to care and outcomes among cancer patients, the active development of approaches to mitigate these effects among already vulnerable groups remains of key importance.

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It's been 10 Years since I came to this "country" after spending in 2 years 2005 - 2006 about 1.5 US$ million ( which took more than 20 years to make) in a weird sickness my wife and also had Cancer on both of my parents. Mentally it's really damn hard to overcome.

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And exactly none of it works and makes them worse.

Using Royal Rife Technology will get rid of cancer.
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Sadly that's the point. It's also why the cure isn't being found just more expensive treatment. Imagine we find out there's been a known cure for decades.
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I believe there is a cure but they won't release it. They need us to die and cancer is big business for big Pharma.
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Sadly that's the point. It's also why the cure isn't being found just more expensive treatment. Imagine we find out there's been a known cure for decades.
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I believe there is a cure but they won't release it. They need us to die and cancer is big business for big Pharma.
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And people gulp it up. Study up on Raymond Royal Rife...whose technology was disallowed. Each cancel has its own frequency which can be ID'd and zapped.
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42% of people don't even have any assets... So that goes pretty fast.

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www.rexresearch.com search cancer cures

cancer is not expensive its greedy farma corps who make it that way to profit from your agony ...
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Unless you live in most of the first world countries.
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Yes. Treatment is free here. Doesn't help most of the time tho.
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and that is why the globalists want to destroy your countries, what good are you if you aren't generating shekels from your dying and death?

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All that and the cancer still kills you in the long run
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As soon as your bank accounts run out...they "let" you die

Rarely before!

A cancer diagnosis is just a method of turning you upside down and shaking out your pockets...and those of family members...for torturous treatments even Dr Mengela couldn't think up...and then letting you die when they decide you are "empty"

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Re: Cancer is so expensive to treat that 42% of patients deplete their entire life's assets to afford treatment within the first 2 years says study
Results
Across 9.5 million estimated new diagnoses of cancer from 2000–2012, individuals averaged 68.6±9.4 years with slight majorities being married (54.7%), not retired (51.1%), and Medicare beneficiaries (56.6%). At year+2, 42.4% depleted their entire life's assets, with higher adjusted odds associated with worsening cancer, requirement of continued treatment, demographic and socioeconomic factors (ie, female, Medicaid, uninsured, retired, increasing age, income, and household size), and clinical characteristics (ie, current smoker, worse self-reported health, hypertension, diabetes, lung disease) (P<.05); average losses were $92,098. At year+4, financial insolvency extended to 38.2%, with several consistent socioeconomic, cancer-related, and clinical characteristics remaining significant predictors of complete asset depletion.

Conclusions
This nationally-representative investigation of an initially-estimated 9.5 million newly-diagnosed persons with cancer who were &#8805;50 years of age found a substantial proportion incurring financial toxicity. As large financial burdens have been found to adversely affect access to care and outcomes among cancer patients, the active development of approaches to mitigate these effects among already vulnerable groups remains of key importance.

[link to www.amjmed.com (secure)]
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That is the bottom line objective.....to rob you of all your money and health.

There are cures for cancer but the big machine will not allow that. After all, it cuts into the profit making. There is a cancer hospital in Oklahoma that can cure it but you are not allowed permission to be treated there until all other money making endeavors are exhausted.

Also, ayuasca cures cancer but this is buried by the medical insurance industrial complex..

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All that and the cancer still kills you in the long run
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As soon as your bank accounts run out...they "let" you die

Rarely before!

A cancer diagnosis is just a method of turning you upside down and shaking out your pockets...and those of family members...for torturous treatments even Dr Mengela couldn't think up...and then letting you die when they decide you are "empty"

SOULLESS BEINGS OPERATE THIS SHAM
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and if the vaccines and radiation and chemicals don't give you cancer, they will just give you false diagnosis

I mean, my god there's a GIGANTIC HUGE motivation to give you a false diagnosis of cancer. you'd have to be out of your minds to believe it. this kind of thing happens all the time, it's been reported on by honest people. few of which actually exist in the medical field, because they are getting rich off of it.

i remember when the NFL would wear pinnk to bring awareness to breast cancer. everything would be pink, the bottled water was pink, to raise breast cancer awareness,Angelie Jolie cut her breasts off premptively as human advertisement. all the drum up business.
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All that and the cancer still kills you in the long run
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As soon as your bank accounts run out...they "let" you die

Rarely before!

A cancer diagnosis is just a method of turning you upside down and shaking out your pockets...and those of family members...for torturous treatments even Dr Mengela couldn't think up...and then letting you die when they decide you are "empty"

SOULLESS BEINGS OPERATE THIS SHAM
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the cancer drugs, chemotherapy is mustard gas, they tested it on children. animal testing is also how they recruit psychopaths for trustworthy positions.
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Sad. I'm about $300 a month for 3 months and then it kicks down to about $200 a month for the other 3-9 months. Depends on what it is. So like $1,500-$2,300...
The advent of pot and cbd tho is sure changing that and people are watching what it can do. If it replaces one or two things we were doing, those costs can be converted to cbd/pot.

Besides cbd we don't make, costs will also go up some soon anyway. Thats why we try to keep the nfp going, so people can find a way to afford it.

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there is so many billions spent on pointless research, billions of animals tortured for cancer research and all for nothing. not treatment has ever come of it, they still use 'chemotherapy' , injecting chemical warfare agents and blasting you with radiation, or cutting out lymph nodes. none of these treatments ever came about from all the animal research.

and yet you cruel heartless people do not object or give any fucks, after watching all the youtube videos of how animals are sentient, feeling, thinking beings, you all just go about your business, caring only for your selfish lives.
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Sad. I'm about $300 a month for 3 months and then it kicks down to about $200 a month for the other 3-9 months. Depends on what it is. So like $1,500-$2,300...
The advent of pot and cbd tho is sure changing that and people are watching what it can do. If it replaces one or two things we were doing, those costs can be converted to cbd/pot.

Besides cbd we don't make, costs will also go up some soon anyway. Thats why we try to keep the nfp going, so people can find a way to afford it.
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and if the vaccines and radiation and chemicals don't give you cancer, they will just give you false diagnosis

I mean, my god there's a GIGANTIC HUGE motivation to give you a false diagnosis of cancer. you'd have to be out of your minds to believe it. this kind of thing happens all the time, it's been reported on by honest people. few of which actually exist in the medical field, because they are getting rich off of it.


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I think people have cancer all the time and their body just deals with it. It's there but it's not doing anything, if it starts to cause problems your immune system handles it if you let it.

That my belief anyway. I think the problems come when you disrupt the natural healing and regulation processes of your body with invasive medical treatments that probably aren't necessary and do more harm than good.

I know each situation is different and I don't expect other people to see it the same way I do. But for me the way I deal with it is to avoid the diagnosis. I stay away from doctors, haven't been for decades and it was decades before that, like been to a doctor once in my adult life, and I'm pushing 60.

And I've had things that most people would run to a doctor for too, just dealt with it with herbs and vitamins, diet etc.

There have definitely been cases of false diagnosis of cancer because it's so lucrative. And even a real diagnosis is suspect, because what if you had cancer and never knew it and it got better by itself? I believe your body can heal itself.





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