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Q Metaphysics: You Are That Which You Perceive // new paradigm on page 58

 
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So, if there's depression because happy thoughts are forgotten, then what is the plan?

"You are what you focus on"

Easy to say, of course. But it seems you're still stuck on your island.

Maybe too proud to do what you are resisting? Perhaps because you think you all ready know what will happen? (Do you?)

Take my hand and let's jump into the deep blue together!
 Quoting: Taol


I am not even on the raft yet? Damn! hiding

"You are what you focus on", I can agree with that.

I don't think that feeling proud is what holds me back.

Just being insecure and seeing only bad choices ahead, still.
 Quoting: tuuur


What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Being with my son (whom I only see every odd weekend)

Last 20 years or so: playing music (I quit my band in January, will be doing auditions for a new one. Though playing gigs late at night for mostly drunk uninterested people isn't much fun)

Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)

Discovering new parts of my country

I incorporate those into my life already.
 Quoting: tuuur


These all sound amazing!!! I always wished playing an instrument came naturally to me. It doesn’t. That alone is awesome.

Maybe go hike with your guitar and play a concert for the trees, nature and whoever else is lucky enough to be within ear shot. Maybe your drawings are trying to “pull” you in a different direction. What you see as imperfection could be a door to a different perspective. :)

You sound like you have many blessings and gifts! Lucky you!!!
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I am not even on the raft yet? Damn! hiding

"You are what you focus on", I can agree with that.

I don't think that feeling proud is what holds me back.

Just being insecure and seeing only bad choices ahead, still.
 Quoting: tuuur


What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Being with my son (whom I only see every odd weekend)

Last 20 years or so: playing music (I quit my band in January, will be doing auditions for a new one. Though playing gigs late at night for mostly drunk uninterested people isn't much fun)

Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)

Discovering new parts of my country

I incorporate those into my life already.
 Quoting: tuuur


These all sound amazing!!! I always wished playing an instrument came naturally to me. It doesn’t. That alone is awesome.

Maybe go hike with your guitar and play a concert for the trees, nature and whoever else is lucky enough to be within ear shot. Maybe your drawings are trying to “pull” you in a different direction. What you see as imperfection could be a door to a different perspective. :)

You sound like you have many blessings and gifts! Lucky you!!!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


They are amazing. I’m happy those things make you happy Tuur.

But I’m sad you only get to see your son on the odd weekend. I know it’s hard, but try to look at that as a gift. So many parents take for granted seeing their kids every day. You get to know that it’s not always the case and how special those times are. And they won’t always be perfect but that’s ok.

I’m sorry Gigs became less fun because it was just drunk people. I’m proud of you that you quit what wasn’t working and are looking for something else. I hope it works out! New people can be fun.

If you’re not inspired drawing, it’s ok to lay off until it takes hold again. But I wonder who you’re trying to impress? Just scribbling then ripping it up can be cathartic. Who cares if it’s not perfect, if it’s only you that’s seeing it?

I wish I had real words to fix everything. But this me is just as broken. We may be till the end of our days. We’re still growing day by day though and today is very different than the last, so perhaps in the days to come things will shift?

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Can't wait for page 58 and the new paradigm...
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What’s people’s thought on...

What if life was deeply personal.

About sorting out your own nitty gritty, soul destroying demons?

Would that make a real difference to the world at large?

Or should we just not bother, and just keep trying to chip away at the outside because nothings really going to change anyway?

Should I risk losing myself to save the world? Is that even possible?
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What’s people’s thought on...

What if life was deeply personal.

About sorting out your own nitty gritty, soul destroying demons?

Would that make a real difference to the world at large?

Or should we just not bother, and just keep trying to chip away at the outside because nothings really going to change anyway?

Should I risk losing myself to save the world? Is that even possible?
 Quoting: OTR


From my perspective, life is deeply personal.

That takes hard work, but worth it. If I may, I read a book called, Feeding your Demons. I find the practice very valuable.

It’s made a difference to my world at large and then ripples.

Should you risk yourself to save yourself? Only you can answer that.

Sending you love mama.
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What’s people’s thought on...

What if life was deeply personal.

About sorting out your own nitty gritty, soul destroying demons?

Would that make a real difference to the world at large?

Or should we just not bother, and just keep trying to chip away at the outside because nothings really going to change anyway?

Should I risk losing myself to save the world? Is that even possible?
 Quoting: OTR


From my perspective, life is deeply personal.

That takes hard work, but worth it. If I may, I read a book called, Feeding your Demons. I find the practice very valuable.

It’s made a difference to my world at large and then ripples.

Should you risk yourself to save yourself? Only you can answer that.

Sending you love mama.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


hf
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I am not even on the raft yet? Damn! hiding

"You are what you focus on", I can agree with that.

I don't think that feeling proud is what holds me back.

Just being insecure and seeing only bad choices ahead, still.
 Quoting: tuuur

So, how do you 'know' they are all bad choices?
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Belly of the beast, huh?

Good to know you sense it changing. Aren’t we all a part of the process? Each and everyone of us?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, including the beast itself.

We can come to love the great beast within, I suppose.
 Quoting: Taol


Isn’t that the point? If we are perceiving it, it is us. The sinner and the saint doing the spiral dance of balance. Even if we like to ‘think’ otherwise.

Essentially, doesn’t it go something like, “I am the beast, and he is me...”?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Or maybe something like, "I am the great beast, and he is good"

A realization that I hope many will come to in good time.
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What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Nice. For me, it is also going out for a nice long walk. Usually by the sea or lake, or sometimes just walking through the city and seeing the different stories going on. It helps to bring perspective into my life.

When I was growing up and things weren't so good sometimes, I would think to myself, "It could be worse than this" and find happiness in that it wasn't.

If I was sad because I was sleeping on the balcony in the cold I would think "It could be worse than this. There are kids who have no place to sleep. At least I have enough clothes to keep me warm."

If I was sad because my mom was sick with cancer and nearly all of our money went for medical treatment I would think, "It could be worse than this. Some kids never really had a mom."

If I was sad because I only had noodles to eat for dinner I would think, "Well, it's not so bad. At least these are some pretty good noodles."

Then the way I would see it changed. It became more of a game. "What are some creative ways I could warm myself up?", "How many new grey hairs can I count on my mom's head?", "How spicy can I make these noodles?"

It sounds a bit corny, perhaps, but it really helped me growing up and gave me confidence to face just about anything.

It still helps me to this day but it's more automatic. If someone steps on my foot I think, "Well, that's not so bad. It could have hurt much worse."

Or sometimes I think of how they could have done a better job being evil, if it was intentional. Then I think, "Well, they didn't do it that way, did they? Maybe they didn't mean to hurt me that much." I think when people do 'bad' things they don't want to be too bad. Just 'enough' to express themselves.

I suppose we can learn to be thankful for the reality that we find ourselves in, as there is no limit to the ways in which 'bad' things can present themselves.

When my mom died, it took a while for me to realize what it meant. Somehow I learned to deal with it by seeing the good things about her and thinking of how much others really loved and appreciated her. (Something I was made aware of by the sheer numbers of people that came from all around the country to pay their respects.) I had seen her sick with cancer for about 7 years before that, and hadn't realized how much she helped others even during that time.

The thing with feelings is that they colour your entire outlook on life. Everything takes on a new light in the light of sadness or depression.

Often, we do not understand our parents because we spend so much time around them that we take on their thoughts and mannerisms. They may remind us of the parts of ourselves that we are uncomfortable with.

But if I hadn't 'resolved my issues' with my mother, I suppose I would still have problems understanding the real value of a relationship with an other woman.

Sometimes we need to look at the woman (or man) we 'once' loved and think, she could be worse than that.

Then we can learn to 'love' it in ourselves, because there is no need to resist something that we've known for 13 years, for example.

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new paradigm on page 58?

How do I get to this page 58? lol
 Quoting: Hermit Seb

By jumping orbit! Like me :)

The new paradigm sacrifices much of the relative peace and tranquility these threads have had for the past 9 years, but the time has come to rise from our seats.

But sometimes when we explore new paradigms all we get is twenty cents.
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@ Taom

What does this new paradigm look like, feel like?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It's quite difficult to interpret the noise of tomorrow, but I would imagine something like [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
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new paradigm on page 58?

How do I get to this page 58? lol
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Just keep typing...LOL
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Haha.. or that :)
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Last few months: drawing (I find it hard to get inspired last 2 weeks though, easily frustrated when it doesn't work out as planned)
 Quoting: tuuur

Curious. Do you need to get inspired before drawing?

Why not just take out some paper and start drawing?
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What is one thing that brings a smile to your face at just the thought of it, every time? For me, it’s connecting with my kids or playing with my dogs. A really awesome song. When I find myself in a funk, I try to shift my focus to those things that for me, are, as close to pure joy as possible. Just thinking out loud. hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Nice. For me, it is also going out for a nice long walk. Usually by the sea or lake, or sometimes just walking through the city and seeing the different stories going on. It helps to bring perspective into my life.

When I was growing up and things weren't so good sometimes, I would think to myself, "It could be worse than this" and find happiness in that it wasn't.

If I was sad because I was sleeping on the balcony in the cold I would think "It could be worse than this. There are kids who have no place to sleep. At least I have enough clothes to keep me warm."

If I was sad because my mom was sick with cancer and nearly all of our money went for medical treatment I would think, "It could be worse than this. Some kids never really had a mom."

If I was sad because I only had noodles to eat for dinner I would think, "Well, it's not so bad. At least these are some pretty good noodles."

Then the way I would see it changed. It became more of a game. "What are some creative ways I could warm myself up?", "How many new grew hairs can I count on my mom's head?", "How spicy can I make these noodles?"

It sounds a bit corny, perhaps, but it really helped me growing up and gave me confidence to face just about anything.

It still helps me to this day but it's more automatic. If someone steps on my foot I think, "Well, that's not so bad. It could have hurt much worse."

Or sometimes I think of how they could have done a better job being evil, if it was intentional. Then I think, "Well, they didn't do it that way, did they? Maybe they didn't mean to hurt me that much." I think when people do 'bad' things they don't want to be too bad. Just 'enough' to express themselves.

I suppose we can learn to be thankful for the reality that we find ourselves in, as there is no limit to the ways in which 'bad' things can present themselves.

When my mom died, it took a while for me to realize what it meant. Somehow I learned to deal with it by seeing the good things about her and thinking of how much others really loved and appreciated her. (Something I was made aware of by the sheer numbers of people that came from all around the country to pay their respects.) I had seen her sick with cancer for about 7 years before that, and hadn't realized how much she helped others even during that time.

The thing with feelings is that they colour your entire outlook on life. Everything takes on a new light in the light of sadness or depression.

Often, we do not understand our parents because we spend so much time around them that we take on their thoughts and mannerisms. They may remind us of the parts of ourselves that we are uncomfortable with.

But I hadn't 'resolved my issues' with my mother, I suppose I would still have problems understanding the real value of a relationship with an other woman.

Sometimes we need to look at the woman (or man) we 'once' loved and think, she could be worse than that.

Then we can learn to 'love' it in ourselves, because there is no need to resist something that we've known for 13 years, for example.
 Quoting: Taom


Wow, Anthony. Again, I can only begin to imagine your life experience. Like you, I don’t really struggle with depression. I find a way to reframe it. When you feel like you’ve been through hell how else can it be? Embrace what is and the dream of the possibilities of what can be.

Thanks for your example, it’s relevant to my experience.
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Belly of the beast, huh?

Good to know you sense it changing. Aren’t we all a part of the process? Each and everyone of us?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, including the beast itself.

We can come to love the great beast within, I suppose.
 Quoting: Taol


Isn’t that the point? If we are perceiving it, it is us. The sinner and the saint doing the spiral dance of balance. Even if we like to ‘think’ otherwise.

Essentially, doesn’t it go something like, “I am the beast, and he is me...”?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Or maybe something like, "I am the great beast, and he is good"

A realization that I hope many will come to in good time.
 Quoting: Taom


The Great Hope. ;)
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@ Taom

What does this new paradigm look like, feel like?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It's quite difficult to interpret the noise of tomorrow, but I would imagine something like [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Taom


Haha...

(Take us back already then.)
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I do want to jump though...
 Quoting: tuuur

Choose your chaos

You can imagine jumping with me, some crazy guy from who-knows-where who might be a troll in his mom's basement on planet HooHoo.

My former driver (and good friend) jumped off of a bridge a few years ago when his new wife wanted a divorce.

The problem is, she wanted full custody their baby daughter, too.

We saw each other every day and sometimes I could tell from his eyes in the mirror that he was somewhere else, worried about the teenaged daughter he had already from his first wife. This was before his second wife.

He wanted to see his daughter so badly, and spend time with her. But custody laws lean towards mothers. After a few years he met someone new, and within a few years they were married.

I knew she wasn't good for him. She was best friends with one of the most famous actresses in the world and was quite shallow. Her 'Hollywood lifestyle' really messed up her thinking. She was, I think, only interested in the way he looked.

They had a baby and were happy, for a while. Then I moved overseas and his new job wasn't enough to satisfy her. So she asked for a divorce, and he jumped off of a bridge.

He was quite a big man, with the biggest smile you've ever seen. He had a heart of gold. But when love and chaos meet chaos can win the first battle, with its flailing tentacles and menacing growl. Then we lose hope, not knowing that love all ways wins with chaos within.

Our happiness is not in what we want, I think, but in what we have all ready. We have only to discover the happiness that is patiently waiting for us. It is patient regardless of whether or not we want to see.

Perhaps he could have thought, during those trying times with his first wife, "Maybe it's not so bad. Maybe we don't get along sometimes for problems not really related to each other."

Some people can make you feel like jumping off of a bridge.

And for some, we actually do it.
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I’m sorry Gigs became less fun because it was just drunk people. I’m proud of you that you quit what wasn’t working and are looking for something else. I hope it works out! New people can be fun.
 Quoting: OTR

It sounds like an opportunity!

Maybe it's time for him to get drunk and get a table with a few friends and see a band play. Perhaps discover ways to play to his audience and make it fun :)

Or just a way to see himself in the audience when he is playing.

Tuuur, the musical comedian!
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What’s people’s thought on...

What if life was deeply personal.

About sorting out your own nitty gritty, soul destroying demons?

Would that make a real difference to the world at large?

Or should we just not bother, and just keep trying to chip away at the outside because nothings really going to change anyway?

Should I risk losing myself to save the world? Is that even possible?
 Quoting: OTR

May I ask, when you wake up feeling shitty how do you see the world?

Did the world 'become' shitty overnight, or is it just reflecting how you feel?

If the world is 'shitty' it might be because we tend to focus on the 0.00135 of things that are shitty and ignore all the rest.

As an example, just take a look at news and media. That's where most of us 'learn' about what is going on in the world. (Even though it is ignoring most of what is actually going on.)

Better than waste energy changing the world, it is seeing what is all ready there... differently. In effect, it is changing the world through our own perspective.
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Wow, Anthony. Again, I can only begin to imagine your life experience. Like you, I don’t really struggle with depression. I find a way to reframe it. When you feel like you’ve been through hell how else can it be? Embrace what is and the dream of the possibilities of what can be.

Thanks for your example, it’s relevant to my experience.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, that's a good way to do it. Thank you for sharing, too :)
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Keeping with my India Arie theme. Lol

Lessons I learned when my life fell apart...
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@ Taom

What does this new paradigm look like, feel like?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It's quite difficult to interpret the noise of tomorrow, but I would imagine something like [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Taom


Haha...

(Take us back already then.)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

YES!

(Please)

But I suppose if I've learned to love and laugh with my enemies then they, too, will help me along whatever path I find myself.

We can all benefit from a few good enemies, perhaps even as we do from good friends.
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Page 58 yet?
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@ Taom

What does this new paradigm look like, feel like?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It's quite difficult to interpret the noise of tomorrow, but I would imagine something like [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Taom


Haha...

(Take us back already then.)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

YES!

(Please)

But I suppose if I've learned to love and laugh with my enemies then they, too, will help me along whatever path I find myself.

We can all benefit from a few good enemies, perhaps even as we do from good friends.
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We can but I really don’t like having enemies.
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We can but I really don’t like having enemies.
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If you loved your enemies...

Would you still have enemies?
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We can but I really don’t like having enemies.
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If you loved your enemies...

Would you still have enemies?
 Quoting: Taom


I don’t really ever feel like I have enemies per se. But I do have people who don’t like me and are mean. After 14 years of animosity on their part, I really just try to keep my space sacred. Hard when they are your neighbors though. Life. When it gives you lemons....
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We can but I really don’t like having enemies.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

If you loved your enemies...

Would you still have enemies?
 Quoting: Taom


I don’t really ever feel like I have enemies per se. But I do have people who don’t like me and are mean. After 14 years of animosity on their part, I really just try to keep my space sacred. Hard when they are your neighbors though. Life. When it gives you lemons....
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I seem to be my own, true enemy at times.
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I can see the psy-op and I can see some of how he has outsmarted them BUT, the baggage he brings doesn't endear him to me.
 Quoting: Eductor


If it endeared you, do you think it would change anything?

Is he the one the 'messiah' is going to betray?
 Quoting: Eductor


Ogmios is the Messiah.

The one that comes after will not be human. (The "Great Genius" that Chaol alluded to.)

In a recent post you mentioned this month will probably be when the start of the Golden Age takes place. Are you equating this with the emergence of the Dream World to everyone and not just those who are paying attention?
 Quoting: Eductor


It's very much tied to one of the main driving forces behind common interactions. In this way, it's about capitalism and finance. The 'start' of the Golden Age is far more than just about money, however.

I suppose someone in future might see it as the unlocking of the shackles of bondage.

I see it as diminishing the force that gives the Matrix (a matrix of '6-6-6') its power.

Baby steps, but a step in very interesting directions.
 Quoting: Kore

 Quoting: Magnison

This was part of an ongoing conversation, as the quotes above will imply. In that respect it must be taken in context.

I do not say that Trump is "the saviour of all things good".

Eductor was referring to this post: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

In which I state:

Betting on the devil is always the safest bet. (At least until the 'messiah' betrays them, such as may begin this month to help usher in the Golden Age.)
 Quoting: Kore

I'm not implying that Trump is Jesus, of course.

Here I identify Trump as the Ogmios in Nostradamus' work. Like an onion with layers, Trump is the 'Messiah' in the sense that he is a 'viper' in a den of vipers whose actions to save his own sense of self (as a lover of humanity) will bring it all crashing down, as in this post:

The final layer is like a viper in a den of vipers that comes up with an elaborate strategy to wipe out all of the other vipers for the sole benefit of a humanity that would prosper much more without any vipers at all.
 Quoting: KEKui

For example, we can think of the main antagonist in the film 'Inglourious Basterds' (Col. Hans Landa, played by Christoph Waltz) as a type of 'messiah' figure who is, in the film, an evil person whose maneuvers to save himself basically bring an immediate end to World War II.

"Would you take that deal?"

He would not be the 'saviour of all things good' of course, but in a sense, he is the Messiah figure of the story. Though of course I don't mean that he, or Trump, is Jesus.

I've identified Trump as being a part of the Deep Stink, but it doesn't mean he cannot also be a tool in a much larger process of the Chaos/Order harmony.

I don't mean that any agent of the Deep Stink is Jesus, certainly :) But everyone has a role to play.

If we assume that very chaotic forces do not also have very "good" forces inside of them, we are lost.

Or, as Jesus would say, love your enemies.
 Quoting: Taol

For the graphical version of this concept:



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I hadn't even thought about it. My first choice was to have events which are orchestrated. My experience with past events is that we may all have a different path within the event, but we always ended up at the same place.

What are your thoughts about reconciling all the different paths?
 Quoting: Eductor

I had a dream about such an event last night. I'm not sure if it has any significance, as I normally don't dream about such things, but Maria was there and she was standing next to a brass metal laithe that I understood to be a key, like this one [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Let's try for an event! No expectations or themes. Totally open to possibilities. We'll just see if we can connect. I don't know if the laithe is the key but it reminds me of the device we used before for MindCraft, the brass phonograph.
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The experiences I've had over the past couple of weeks, since about the day this was posted (November 28) have been quite profound.

I don't think I've even gotten past the doorway, yet!

This key still seems to be a combination of image and imagination. (The three parts I mentioned.) I've been testing out different variations and have had interesting experiences with each.

My original impression of the evolving material was "Q Metaphysics". I registered the domain as qmetaphysics.com but thought the 'Q' stood for 'quantum'.

Although it has some implications for physics (and the 'science' known as quantum physics) it's actually related to something much older. So I'll just refer to it as Q Metaphysics from now.
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Here's what I've been up to for our exercise...

Step 1 - What is?
We as humans are generally unaware that every part of our reality - including people - is an intimate part of our own perspective, because there isn't an easy way for us to know that.

Step 2 - How do we know?
Inter-personal conflicts, disrespect for others, disrespect for Earth, abuse, wars, violence, loneliness, despair

Step 3 - What do we do about it?
Create guidelines for navigating the greater reality and balancing the forces of Chaos and Order. [The 21 Laws of Existence]

Step 4 - How do we communicate it, or make use of 1-3 in a practical or effective way?
Illustrate the greater reality in a way that introduces the primary concepts to others.
[The QM website; and the upcoming revised Q Metaphysics book]

I'm still looking for a 'key' that will allow anyone to easily access the greater reality, which seems to be the shared reality between the two Earths, and of course some aspects of the Upper Earth.

(We also each seem to have counterparts in the Upper Earth, but I'll look more into this.)

That would change the last two steps as follows:

Step 3 - What do we do about it?
Discover a way for anyone to easily see a greater reality of the things and people around them being an extension of themselves

Step 4 - How do we communicate it, or make use of 1-3 in a practical or effective way?
Instruct others how to use the new tool. Make it easy to use and easy for people to explain to others.
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