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Kore
(OP) User ID: 76612195 Italy 10/13/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed it has. Quoting: Chaol But we can only assume that the concept of "the internet" needs to be seen through to the end in order for this transition to happen. I think of it more as an introduction. The internet has a lifespan, and it could very well be a short, awesome life of less than 50 years instead of a longer one like the telegraph. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
BohemianExile
User ID: 75956529 United States 10/13/2018 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is anyone here familiar with the Wheel of Time? "Tel'aran'rhiod (tel-AYE-rahn-rhee-ODD; Old Tongue: The Unseen World), also known as the World of Dreams and the Wolf Dream, is a parallel world where all the possibilities of the Wheel of Time connect, and it is linked to all the myriad such worlds that exist within the Wheel. It is both of those worlds and apart from them, and is occasionally entered for a few seconds at a time by ordinary people dreaming, although there is great risk to those who do so as imagination becomes reality in the Unseen World and what happens there happens in the normal world as well. There are people called Dreamwalkers who have the ability to enter Tel'aran'rhiod at will, and they are able to exert varying degrees of mastery over its strange and malleable nature." [link to wot.wikia.com] “Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day.” -Aiel Oath Let the Dragon ride again on the Winds of Time WoT WoT! Build that RedWall Loose Lips Don't Sink Ships ~ Qanons DEW |
Eductor
User ID: 76927719 United States 10/13/2018 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Each part of perspective (and person) is on their own time. All seem to be headed that way, but it should appear differently for everyone. When the thread has finished, I will have 'crossed' to the other side (I think). If you do cross, will you try to visit here? Probably not. I don't think there'd be any reason. But we'll see how it works out. You can come back without teaching if you think that's the only reason to be here. We're used to you so I hope you will. Otherwise, I'll guess have to do a Genius to get you back Last Edited by Eductor on 10/13/2018 07:51 PM AKA: U3 |
Eductor
User ID: 76927719 United States 10/13/2018 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They won't care as long as it doesn't change things too drastically, I would guess. Quoting: Eductor Do you see this small percentage of human population as beings other than yourself? being other than yourself? What do you mean? Do you see the small percentage of human population as someone other than yourself (your perspective) AKA: U3 |
Eductor
User ID: 76927719 United States 10/13/2018 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is anyone here familiar with the Wheel of Time? Quoting: BohemianExile "Tel'aran'rhiod (tel-AYE-rahn-rhee-ODD; Old Tongue: The Unseen World), also known as the World of Dreams and the Wolf Dream, is a parallel world where all the possibilities of the Wheel of Time connect, and it is linked to all the myriad such worlds that exist within the Wheel. It is both of those worlds and apart from them, and is occasionally entered for a few seconds at a time by ordinary people dreaming, although there is great risk to those who do so as imagination becomes reality in the Unseen World and what happens there happens in the normal world as well. There are people called Dreamwalkers who have the ability to enter Tel'aran'rhiod at will, and they are able to exert varying degrees of mastery over its strange and malleable nature." [link to wot.wikia.com] No, I haven't heard of it but I'm guessing I know of a couple of Dream Walkers. One supposedly died but there was never a death certificate. It's said he just walked into another dimension. AKA: U3 |
Eductor
User ID: 76927719 United States 10/13/2018 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah, ok. Thank you! Quoting: Eductor So, even though it's my perspective, I've always got some parts of it out of my control. That's the way I keep existing. If I may, now you are seeing the benefits of the Nexus. Most of reality is 'out of control'. That's the nature of Chaos :) But what if I told you that one can you could easily harness the power of Chaos? ...using tools to more directly interface with your perspective? That's what's been taught since these threads started. However, I can see you're moving us past the Genius. Yes, the Genius is a stepping-stone. But of course some may prefer to use it, instead. (Though the relatively easy instructions seems more difficult to follow.) To me, it's simple. I even got to the point where I could do Genius-on-the-fly so to speak. I've since backed down but enjoy using it when I feel it will propel the change in my perception. AKA: U3 |
Eductor
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Eductor
User ID: 76927719 United States 10/13/2018 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The core of your self is your 'now/here', though one cannot really perceive of now or here. The now/here is about as close as you can get to your core with perception involved. Everything else 'radiates' from it, unfolding into what seems infinite. "Kore" is the last past of the cycle before jumping orbit to an other kind of Chaos. A new kind of radiation. [quote/] Interesting. Thank you. So, would you say that since you became aware of these threads, you have evolved? or would you say you've gained new tools? AKA: U3 |
Hall of Mirrors
User ID: 17635688 United States 10/13/2018 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just trying to flesh out your concept of "tokenization" a bit more. If I understand correctly you are saying that to tokenize is to reduce or distill a large concept to something small and easily manipulated, transported or"traded/exchanged. Like the idea of tokenizing a large object into gold or silver, or tokenizing gold and silver into a dollar bill or further, "tokenizing" a dollar bill into zeros and ones in the form of bitcoin. So I think that you said you could tokenize most anything. So, how would one tokenize: A poem A painting A bag of concrete A glass of beer? Enquireing minds Get out of your way! |
Eductor
User ID: 76927719 United States 10/13/2018 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'other side of the bridge' is all ways for entertainment, not evolution. Don't expect to understand any more about yourself (because there is no end) if whatever happens. Quoting: Kore That's why I'm not too motivated about where I end up, lol! One reason I asked about your family is because that's my main concern. I doubt my ability to include them in my perception if I do use a genius. I have an idea how I can do it but you know how it is. I might try it and it doesn't work. Then what? I suppose I could keep doing more and more Geniuses, lol! The other concern is that I won't like it much. From my experience, I've had amazing things happen but I was the only one that saw it. I prefer to be in relationships. Yes! Thanks for reminding me. Last Edited by Eductor on 10/14/2018 08:12 PM AKA: U3 |
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cosmicgypsy
User ID: 74619032 United States 10/13/2018 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let’s say you were interacting with a field of information made up of trillions of atoms Quoting: TheThunderbird All of it arranged in a Multitudenous array of various imperceptible geometric configurations. This is after all what we see “out there.” “Empty space” in a room is actually filled with billions upon billions of atoms all of them bouncing around with quite discernible patterns and corralitive relationships that, while indeed present, are far too subtle for today’s instruments to measure. Perhaps some sensitive and creative beings could see and interact with this grand symphony, but the crude technology of this species is far from witnessing let alone measuring such permutations. Let’s say that multitude of geometric atomic arrangements, all overlapping like waves in an ocean, each represent their own data sets of information. An echo of an ancient pervasive societal pattern could be perceived by a mind designed to do so in the manner that an ancient sea farer might witness the currents of the sea in the seemingly chaotic waves about their vessel. A veritable symphony of corralitive waves interacting with one another produce the “events” in space time as we perceive them. Build up a number of cross corralitive “waves” of data sets, and you might perceive a great deal of increasing scales of detail. That is to say you might find in such a convergence that, like an electron microscope designed t perceive to the very limits of our scale of measure, a higher degree of “depth” into which a perception can deepen. Into those arrangements you can perceptively dive Deeper into ancient origins. Perhaps those subtle waves, echoes of a time gone by, Ripples upon the surface atoms of a planet rich with “history,” Have been bouncing and spreading in the grand symphony for ages Like ocean waves upon the surface of the sea And within that sea You float Perceiving those relationships Like the light playing at the bottom of a pool. Higher degrees of detail, found in that prime number cross of yours, are found at the edge of those arrangements. The sea shore and the beaches, with trillions of grains of sand, are after all beautiful, for each grain carries it’s own brilliant age old story. etched upon each grain is a history unique to that shell, that organism, that crystal. Each one rich with history and data unique to its own story. Trillions of stories, collected into a seemingly random formation. Chaos Far more “beautiful” are these sea shores, these beaches, for they contain higher degrees of detail and scalar data than a mundane and orderly iron box. Or that which may be made by the hands and mind of a simple human. The crude magicians of your occult societies endeavor to affect causality and their desired outcomes by increasing their degrees of subtlety and intracacy witnessed in nature but they are perceived as children, crude in their understanding, methods and scope. They, after all, cannot create a beach Far greater is that data Far more rich is that chaos than what a simple mind may conceive And so it is between the order of prime patterns and golden rations that the spiraling swirling data pulls out our perception. It pulls us outward, deeper into the entropic fold entrancing us into traversing space time. Into knowing. While the order of those patterns ground us, cages us , and naturally pushes into us, preventing our dissolution into the grand symphony. Structure, in the sea of sound and data. Constiriction that we may have form, That we may have form..... The chaos which pulls us apart in our knowing Is balanced by the order which constricts is that we may have a point of reference. An island of ignorance in a sea of knowing. Life in a sea of death. Light in a void of darkness. A star in an endless sea of space, Boundaried by the beach of our perception. Our perception itself is deep and powerful data set made of trillions of stories Beautiful in its complexity Simple in its order That, TheThunderbird, is beautiful. Thank you. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 10/13/2018 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to participate in this game if you don't mind. I think a good token for a painting would be some kind of slip of paper signifying ownership. I imagine this is how museums are able to display a privately owned painting. A token for a glass of beer, the context I'd go with (since it's in a glass) is that it was poured in a bar or at a restaurant. The token for the beer might be represented on the receipt or on the bar tab with its dollar value in numbers. A token for a poem could be its title. "The Road Not Taken" by Robert Frost, for example, carries implicit connotations for anyone who has experienced this rather famous poem. For anyone who might especially experience affinity to this poem in particular, the title itself would be representative of the overall meaning conveyed by the poem. A bag of concrete could be represented by a documented "commitment to purchasing". The document itself could be traded or given away and the commitment to purchasing transferred as well. The context I imagine for this could be someone trading concrete abstractly (hehe) probably transferring many bags of concrete in one trade. More....concretely, (hehe): I enter into a type of unexecuted contract recording a commitment to purchasing 10,000 bags of concrete. In this case I suppose they would be tokenized numerically within the terms of this contract, while the total amount of the 10,000 would be tokenized by the recorded commitment to purchase. But I could also trade or make a commitment to purchasing only one bag of concrete (for whatever reason). Some other interesting parallel possibilities I am entertaining right now: Token painting: There is secret valuable information hidden in the canvas and a group of people are vying for its ownership. They relate to the painting as a token for the secret valuable information. Although this is using a concrete representation for something abstract, so a bit different. Token poem: A sentimental love poem cherished by an old widow Token bag of concrete: a meme about a bag of concrete Token glass of beer: A popular television character holding their glass of beer in an iconic way such that anyone who holds a glass of beer in the same way brings to minds associations with the television character. ... I look forward to Kore's response. Nice questions |
MerelyHuman
User ID: 76497161 United States 10/14/2018 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just trying to flesh out your concept of "tokenization" a bit more. Quoting: Hall of Mirrors If I understand correctly you are saying that to tokenize is to reduce or distill a large concept to something small and easily manipulated, transported or"traded/exchanged. Like the idea of tokenizing a large object into gold or silver, or tokenizing gold and silver into a dollar bill or further, "tokenizing" a dollar bill into zeros and ones in the form of bitcoin. So I think that you said you could tokenize most anything. So, how would one tokenize: A poem A painting A bag of concrete A glass of beer? Enquireing minds Excellent points raised, here. A token is a symbol. A symbol can exist beyond the substrate of its issuance but is only a thought form in the end. Just as the token is not the poem, painting or glass of beer, the FRN is not the dollar, the Deed Trust is not the land and the map is not the territory. A token can describe the taste of the beer but it cannot communicate the "experience" of enjoying the beer. All symbols are cryptographic in nature, in that they must be encoded by the author and decoded by the receiver using a common "lexicon" or understanding, in order for the information to be transmitted. Without a common lexicon, or unifying principle of authorship, entropy prevails and the information contained in the symbol is dissipated. The principal of authorship is the essence of the distinction between order and chaos. |
Simon Says
User ID: 76994681 United Kingdom 10/14/2018 04:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cia.gov (secure)] Page 24 references the Wheel of Time. Each spoke seams to represent a prominent chapter. |
bworkman708
User ID: 76777481 United States 10/14/2018 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With the mention of Blockchain on this topic specifically, would Tim Berners-Lee's new interpretation of the internet (Solid) be applicable? Seems as if tokenization would fit quite well with a model like this. [link to solid.inrupt.com (secure)] Solid is the technology that underpins a movement, being lead by Sir Tim Berners-Lee to re-orient the web to its original vision. To understand the ‘why’ of Solid, it’s important to understand the evolution of the web and how it’s diverged from Sir Tim’s original and inspiring vision. The first web browser was also an editor. The idea being that not only could everyone read content on the web, but they could also help create it. It was to be a collaborative space for all mankind. However, when the first browser that popularized the web came along, called Mosaic, it included multimedia and editing was taken out. It was considered too difficult a problem. This change was the first curtailing of the web’s promise and spawned an effort lead by Tim and others to get the write functionality back. It was dubbed the ‘read-write web’ and lead to Richard McManus' seminal article published in 2003. Solid has taken 15 years of development work to finally deliver this. The issue with writing data, as wikipedia and others have learned, is that you need a degree of control over who can write what. That means you need to have permissions - what can individuals do to the data. And to have permissions you need to have a system for identity - a way of uniquely confirming that an individual is who they purport to be. At the same time the web was always designed to be a space for data as well as documents. The Linked Data Platform group formalized this further by creating a standard for working with file systems, which when combined with the Unix philosophy form a powerful way of achieving this. These two principles, of read-write capability and managed data accessibility are key to the original and potent concept of the web. They were unfortunately lost along the way as the web evolved. Hence solid, based on existing web standards and the result of decades of work, Solid has read-write functionality, incorporating permissions and identity, along with data manageability and real-time updates via a websocket. It realizes the web as originally envisioned and provides a platform for the next generation of truly empowering and innovative applications. Last Edited by CrankyGrunt on 10/14/2018 09:49 PM |
Hall of Mirrors
User ID: 17635688 United States 10/15/2018 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just trying to flesh out your concept of "tokenization" a bit more. Quoting: Hall of Mirrors If I understand correctly you are saying that to tokenize is to reduce or distill a large concept to something small and easily manipulated, transported or"traded/exchanged. Like the idea of tokenizing a large object into gold or silver, or tokenizing gold and silver into a dollar bill or further, "tokenizing" a dollar bill into zeros and ones in the form of bitcoin. So I think that you said you could tokenize most anything. So, how would one tokenize: A poem A painting A bag of concrete A glass of beer? Enquireing minds Excellent points raised, here. A token is a symbol. A symbol can exist beyond the substrate of its issuance but is only a thought form in the end. Just as the token is not the poem, painting or glass of beer, the FRN is not the dollar, the Deed Trust is not the land and the map is not the territory. A token can describe the taste of the beer but it cannot communicate the "experience" of enjoying the beer. All symbols are cryptographic in nature, in that they must be encoded by the author and decoded by the receiver using a common "lexicon" or understanding, in order for the information to be transmitted. Without a common lexicon, or unifying principle of authorship, entropy prevails and the information contained in the symbol is dissipated. The principal of authorship is the essence of the distinction between order and chaos. Thanks Stephen S and Merely Human, good insights, much appreciated! Get out of your way! |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/18/2018 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Kore Each part of perspective (and person) is on their own time. All seem to be headed that way, but it should appear differently for everyone. When the thread has finished, I will have 'crossed' to the other side (I think). If you do cross, will you try to visit here? Probably not. I don't think there'd be any reason. But we'll see how it works out. You can come back without teaching if you think that's the only reason to be here. We're used to you so I hope you will. Otherwise, I'll guess have to do a Genius to get you back I never thought of it as teaching. For me, it's learning. I learn as I explain. But thank you for the warm welcome :) It will be kept in mind. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/18/2018 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They won't care as long as it doesn't change things too drastically, I would guess. Quoting: Eductor Do you see this small percentage of human population as beings other than yourself? being other than yourself? What do you mean? Do you see the small percentage of human population as someone other than yourself (your perspective) Yes. I think that's the whole point of perspective. I see everyone else as un-me. Sometimes those un-mes really pee me off, but in a fun way. It's the more extreme un-me experiences that remind me of how clever it all is. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/18/2018 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Kore If I may, now you are seeing the benefits of the Nexus. Most of reality is 'out of control'. That's the nature of Chaos :) But what if I told you that one can you could easily harness the power of Chaos? ...using tools to more directly interface with your perspective? That's what's been taught since these threads started. However, I can see you're moving us past the Genius. Yes, the Genius is a stepping-stone. But of course some may prefer to use it, instead. (Though the relatively easy instructions seems more difficult to follow.) To me, it's simple. I even got to the point where I could do Genius-on-the-fly so to speak. I've since backed down but enjoy using it when I feel it will propel the change in my perception. I think the point when you get to good at it is when you begin to forget. At least, that's how it has been for me. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/18/2018 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of any realization happens subconsciously and is focused into more physical experiences. A lifetime of understanding, though, could appear in the flick of an instant watching a rat's ass. Quoting: Kore I thought there was no subconscious? There is also no 'I', 'thoughts' and 'was' but we use those terms to illustrate things that would be more difficult to conceive otherwise. A 'good-enough representation' as some might say :) video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/18/2018 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The core of your self is your 'now/here', though one cannot really perceive of now or here. The now/here is about as close as you can get to your core with perception involved. Quoting: Kore Everything else 'radiates' from it, unfolding into what seems infinite. "Kore" is the last past of the cycle before jumping orbit to an other kind of Chaos. A new kind of radiation. [quote/] Interesting. Thank you. So, would you say that since you became aware of these threads, you have evolved? or would you say you've gained new tools? I would say that I'm nearly ready to forget it all again, and start over in a new way. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/18/2018 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just trying to flesh out your concept of "tokenization" a bit more. Quoting: Hall of Mirrors If I understand correctly you are saying that to tokenize is to reduce or distill a large concept to something small and easily manipulated, transported or"traded/exchanged. Nothing about size, but complexity. Tokenization simplifies things/concepts into a form that can scale more efficiently. Tokens help to remove friction from transactions. They allow interaction-at-a-distance. Like the idea of tokenizing a large object into gold or silver, or tokenizing gold and silver into a dollar bill or further, "tokenizing" a dollar bill into zeros and ones in the form of bitcoin. Quoting: Hall of Mirrors Gold and silver becoming notes becoming digital notes. Bitcoin, I think, represents new assignations of debt that are more divorced from the old. Before the debt was a claim to future physical labour, but Bitcoin makes the debt about future digital labour in the form of calculations. At its core, a token is information. A dollar, for example, is information about a debt, not the debt itself. What we call money is just debt that has moved from place to place. When we make use of this information, we call it currency. The problem with Bitcoin is that people think of it as a store of value when it is a unit of measurement, like any other token. The value is not being stored, but measured. The value of Bitcoin is in the way it measures information, not in the way it stores it. So I think that you said you could tokenize most anything. So, how would one tokenize: Quoting: Hall of Mirrors A poem A painting A bag of concrete A glass of beer? Enquireing minds All of the above can be tokenized with contracts. A poem, for example, could be tokenized with a contract so that it could be published an endless number of times. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Cat Carel
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Cat Carel
User ID: 68726729 United States 10/18/2018 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Kore Scenario 1 [not-Nexus] I want a house and I will save up for 10 years for it. Scenario 2 [The Nexus] I want a house and there is a man in Venice who has a book that used to belong to my father with information that will lead me to a piece of land I didn't know I had. Using the Nexus we create things in order to communicate with ourselves. (Basically, what I was saying at the top of page 2) Are you implying that knowledge of this book was previously had? Is the goal to physically track down this man and book? |
Cat Carel
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Lady of Stars
User ID: 75135236 United States 10/21/2018 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do memes threaten the powers of those aspects of your perspective that control much of your perspective? Quoting: Kore This is how we will transition successfully to the new physicality. By redefining what has been defined 'for' us, or by relating things together that we want less of in our reality. You can redefine your reality by redefining the relationships that make up your reality. The Nexus allows anyone to "control the flow of information and control the reality that the information comprises." Can you give an example of this - relating things together that we want less of? Thanks. |
Kore
(OP) User ID: 76796339 Italy 10/21/2018 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The other concern is that I won't like it much. From my experience, I've had amazing things happen but I was the only one that saw it. I prefer to be in relationships. Quoting: Eductor You mean, the other parts of you didn't see it? video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |