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I had an affair with Colonel Gaddafi in the late 80s

 
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Really? The idea of being intimate with any guy is repulsive to you. You can't think of a single hunky celebrity that you wouldn't mind being ravaged by? If that's the case you're a very unique person. I don't think there are many women like you in existence. Do you not think the fact you got raped has a lot to do with that?

Also the thing about emotions is you can overcome them if you force yourself. They are only a prison if you let them be. It's how people deal with phobias etc. They push past emotional barriers. Your psyche is not some fixed thing. It is malleable and you have free will to change things, it may not be easy but it's definitely possible, otherwise we'd basically be robots with no choices.

I'm not trying to be insulting but from reading about your history you seem quite a subservient kind of person. It's like you almost want to be in a situation where you feel control has been taken out of your hands and you're just going to plod along and accept it. Kinda like staying with your abusive father for so many years when you could have left at any point.
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probably not a good idea to punish a rape victim.

words of logic are helpful. and yes, she needs the shock of joy to bring her around.

So, yeah, she's repulsed by other men because she is repulsed by the rapist and doesn't know how to process those feelings. This is very common in rape victims.

Anna, there are specialists out there that deal specifically rape victims. You are not alone. You will not be in any kind of trouble to report the rape by Gaddafi. He raped lots of women.

Bless you child. You've survived alot and for a long time.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thank you for the kind words, and yes, life’s been...an experience to say the least.

But still, he didn’t rape me, I gave to him freely and willingly. I’m not repulsed by him...I’m repulsed by everyone but.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


no honey, he raped you.

you can deny and rationalize all you want.

get some help.
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Goodness no. I can’t even really feel pleasure unless I’m thinking of Papa to be frank. And, yes, I suppose I’m unusual in that aspect. The rape might have had something to do with it, I certainly felt ‘defiled’ afterwards. I didn’t experience any pleasure from that, just pain, I wondered what Papa would have thought about it. If I was still good enough for him.

It’s not insulting, you’re quite right. I suppose it’s learned helplessness, my whole life my father molded me to be demure and subservient, it’s my natural at this point. I bucked him as a teenager, and it didn’t go so well for me. Now I have to live with the fact that for 23 years I could have left and gone to Papa at anytime when I was on my own, but I believed and was obedient to my father.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


If Gaddafi wanted you he would have had you. The complications of you being with him were his design, not yours. He chose a girl who he could dispose of. That's you.

Now to heal!

Seems to me that you have some complex issues, I can identify because my situation was similar.
1. Dad controlling
2. Mom out of the picture and not allowed to protect you.
3. rapists, multiple.
4. Stockholm, perfectly understandable.

I promise you that there is light on the other side. But I will tell you that the struggle to get there is extremely difficult. You think you fought all your life and can't do this battle. I promise you that it is worth it.
 Quoting: MissCleo


The logistics of our relationship were one that he couldn’t just have someone take me away in the night like he could a Libyan girl. I was the daughter of a diplomat, I was an American. With tensions the way they were it would have been nearly impossible for him to come get me, my only option was to go to him. I tried, and failed. He continued to encourage me to do so well into my twenties apparently, though I thought he’d given up.

What is there for me now? My child is dead, my lover is dead, men repulse me, and I’m unable to have children.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


I'm sorry.
anna gaddafi  (OP)

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Well, I’m not happy about the situation per se, I’m just happy in my decision to stay faithful. And yeah, I do think of it often, it seems to be an easy out.

That’s a hard question to answer. To be honest the idea of touching another man is repulsive to me, that’s why I couldn’t have sex with the second boyfriend and laid like a corpse with the third. The thought of anyone other than Papa touching me is vile. So I don’t think I can ever have another sexual partner, maybe a companion at best. And I do hope there’s an afterlife, it’s the only thing I’ve git to look forward to at this point.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


1. Rapists target certain types.
2. A small act of kindness is used to imprint
3. Trauma victims "freeze" growth at the moment of impact.

Rapists look for prey they can isolate. If dad was intoxicated it was easy to snatch you away. You had no escape. Your choice to submit was your only option. You chose to submit because the other option was to be killed.

Since your rapist didn't kill you your impulses were conditioned to forgive and run back into your safety. However, that safe space was controlled by dad who violated your boundaries.

The dynamics of your dad hiding the incident in order to keep his job speaks volumes. Total violation of your human rights. But you had no other option. Again, you are not making the choices here, you are bring controlled.

At the age of 15 you were forced to give up all control to 2 men, your dad and a rapist. A child who submitted is frozen in time.

Your adult mind compensated by rationalizing and positive coping that your mother taught you. She taught unconditional love and acceptance, because that's a woman's gift to her daughter biologically. So it's natural to cling to that when in a trauma situation for survival. It's the only thing you can control.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I didn’t fear for my life with Papa at all, I didn’t submit because he forced me. We eased into sex gradually, not violently with a knife against my throat. I submitted to him because I was infatuated with him, because him holding me felt wonderful, because he told me he wanted me. He gave me the option to stop, I said no. He told me there were consequences to being with him, I accepted them.

My father, on the other hand, did violate me. He violated my ability to have my child, and that, in my opinion, was more of a rape than anything Papa did.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


1st person narrative.
There are other points of view that you are refusing to see.

[link to hotline.rainn.org (secure)]

800-656-HOPE (4673)

call them or chat online. they have resources.

Steps of Grief:
denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

Many people fear the depression and refuse to get past it so they stay in "bargaining" for many years. Round and round, pages and pages on a thread, over and over, back to denial, anger then bargaining again. and again. it's a form of negative coping and self torture and trying to exhaust oneself to heal, because sleep cures all.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thanks for the resources, I’ll check them out.

My grief is...complicated at best. I have no grave to visit, no one to talk to about it. And if by sleep you mean death, then yes, it certainly does.
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Anna, sweetheart, you are a strong woman. I understand your struggle.

You still have time to take back the life that was stolen from you. 45 is a prime age where you can recover and thrive.

Choose who you surround yourself with. Don't make the same choices that someone else would have made for you. You have control now and the power.

Find your support group. Surround yourself with those whom give you what YOU need, not take from you everything you are.

You'll be ok. Make a plan.
anna gaddafi  (OP)

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Really? The idea of being intimate with any guy is repulsive to you. You can't think of a single hunky celebrity that you wouldn't mind being ravaged by? If that's the case you're a very unique person. I don't think there are many women like you in existence. Do you not think the fact you got raped has a lot to do with that?

Also the thing about emotions is you can overcome them if you force yourself. They are only a prison if you let them be. It's how people deal with phobias etc. They push past emotional barriers. Your psyche is not some fixed thing. It is malleable and you have free will to change things, it may not be easy but it's definitely possible, otherwise we'd basically be robots with no choices.

I'm not trying to be insulting but from reading about your history you seem quite a subservient kind of person. It's like you almost want to be in a situation where you feel control has been taken out of your hands and you're just going to plod along and accept it. Kinda like staying with your abusive father for so many years when you could have left at any point.
 Quoting: Drubble


probably not a good idea to punish a rape victim.

words of logic are helpful. and yes, she needs the shock of joy to bring her around.

So, yeah, she's repulsed by other men because she is repulsed by the rapist and doesn't know how to process those feelings. This is very common in rape victims.

Anna, there are specialists out there that deal specifically rape victims. You are not alone. You will not be in any kind of trouble to report the rape by Gaddafi. He raped lots of women.

Bless you child. You've survived alot and for a long time.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thank you for the kind words, and yes, life’s been...an experience to say the least.

But still, he didn’t rape me, I gave to him freely and willingly. I’m not repulsed by him...I’m repulsed by everyone but.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


no honey, he raped you.

you can deny and rationalize all you want.

get some help.
 Quoting: MissCleo


How? The most violent he was was on cocaine and that pales in comparison to my other experiences.
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Thanks for the resources, I’ll check them out.

My grief is...complicated at best. I have no grave to visit, no one to talk to about it. And if by sleep you mean death, then yes, it certainly does.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Isolation is one of the things that keep us in a cycle. Seek out positive support systems.

Sleep is not death, sleep is the body healing itself. Like when people are put into a coma, it's so that the body can regenerate.

Death is something else entirely... and can knock at the door in troubling times, I get that. We look at death as an option... but it's not... only God determines that.

Don't use one resource, use them all. Call multiple places, people, therapists, find the ones that make you feel great and help you. (not the ones who just want your money and keep you in a cycle).
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Anna, sweetheart, you are a strong woman. I understand your struggle.

You still have time to take back the life that was stolen from you. 45 is a prime age where you can recover and thrive.

Choose who you surround yourself with. Don't make the same choices that someone else would have made for you. You have control now and the power.

Find your support group. Surround yourself with those whom give you what YOU need, not take from you everything you are.

You'll be ok. Make a plan.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Outside of school I have no one, my mother perhaps, but she’s half a world away and my brother and I aren’t exactly close.
anna gaddafi
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Thanks for the resources, I’ll check them out.

My grief is...complicated at best. I have no grave to visit, no one to talk to about it. And if by sleep you mean death, then yes, it certainly does.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Isolation is one of the things that keep us in a cycle. Seek out positive support systems.

Sleep is not death, sleep is the body healing itself. Like when people are put into a coma, it's so that the body can regenerate.

Death is something else entirely... and can knock at the door in troubling times, I get that. We look at death as an option... but it's not... only God determines that.

Don't use one resource, use them all. Call multiple places, people, therapists, find the ones that make you feel great and help you. (not the ones who just want your money and keep you in a cycle).
 Quoting: MissCleo


I can’t end my life for multiple reasons, but it’s incredibly tempting.

I’ve tried therapy, wasn’t exactly for me, but I suppose it wouldn’t hurt to try again.
anna gaddafi
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How? The most violent he was was on cocaine and that pales in comparison to my other experiences.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


stop.
I'm not going to go into your circles again and again.

Organize a list of incidents that traumatized you, including your nights with Gaddafi. Make a simple list.
Find a therapist that you like, I can tell you that men are better than women, expect to visit at least twice a month for about 2 years.

Then in 2020 come back and tell me how you feel.

You can do this!
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Anna, sweetheart, you are a strong woman. I understand your struggle.

You still have time to take back the life that was stolen from you. 45 is a prime age where you can recover and thrive.

Choose who you surround yourself with. Don't make the same choices that someone else would have made for you. You have control now and the power.

Find your support group. Surround yourself with those whom give you what YOU need, not take from you everything you are.

You'll be ok. Make a plan.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Outside of school I have no one, my mother perhaps, but she’s half a world away and my brother and I aren’t exactly close.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


There would be so many more complex emotions in this.
I would wait until you are healthy to try to rekindle with family, otherwise it turns into a blame game and it could be devastating.

Therapy. You'll be ok. Set realistic goals for yourself. Be kind to yourself. You can do this!
anna gaddafi  (OP)

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How? The most violent he was was on cocaine and that pales in comparison to my other experiences.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


stop.
I'm not going to go into your circles again and again.

Organize a list of incidents that traumatized you, including your nights with Gaddafi. Make a simple list.
Find a therapist that you like, I can tell you that men are better than women, expect to visit at least twice a month for about 2 years.

Then in 2020 come back and tell me how you feel.

You can do this!
 Quoting: MissCleo


Oh...ok.

Mm, I’ll try.
anna gaddafi
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How? The most violent he was was on cocaine and that pales in comparison to my other experiences.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


stop.
I'm not going to go into your circles again and again.

Organize a list of incidents that traumatized you, including your nights with Gaddafi. Make a simple list.
Find a therapist that you like, I can tell you that men are better than women, expect to visit at least twice a month for about 2 years.

Then in 2020 come back and tell me how you feel.

You can do this!
 Quoting: MissCleo


Oh...ok.

Mm, I’ll try.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


You did well in opening up. I'm proud of you!
You took the first step. You want to heal!

Sometimes in life we are dealt crappy hands. Many times in life we think we are stuck with crappy hands. Fortunately you have a good career and money. Use those resources for you, and remember they were not given to you, you earned and struggled for all you have!

I promise that once you find your center, your soul, that everything will make sense and you will have peace.
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How? The most violent he was was on cocaine and that pales in comparison to my other experiences.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


stop.
I'm not going to go into your circles again and again.

Organize a list of incidents that traumatized you, including your nights with Gaddafi. Make a simple list.
Find a therapist that you like, I can tell you that men are better than women, expect to visit at least twice a month for about 2 years.

Then in 2020 come back and tell me how you feel.

You can do this!
 Quoting: MissCleo


Oh...ok.

Mm, I’ll try.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


You did well in opening up. I'm proud of you!
You took the first step. You want to heal!

Sometimes in life we are dealt crappy hands. Many times in life we think we are stuck with crappy hands. Fortunately you have a good career and money. Use those resources for you, and remember they were not given to you, you earned and struggled for all you have!

I promise that once you find your center, your soul, that everything will make sense and you will have peace.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Maybe, though I have a sense of peace now. I’ve accepted where I am. I’m ok with it.
anna gaddafi
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stop.
I'm not going to go into your circles again and again.

Organize a list of incidents that traumatized you, including your nights with Gaddafi. Make a simple list.
Find a therapist that you like, I can tell you that men are better than women, expect to visit at least twice a month for about 2 years.

Then in 2020 come back and tell me how you feel.

You can do this!
 Quoting: MissCleo


Oh...ok.

Mm, I’ll try.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


You did well in opening up. I'm proud of you!
You took the first step. You want to heal!

Sometimes in life we are dealt crappy hands. Many times in life we think we are stuck with crappy hands. Fortunately you have a good career and money. Use those resources for you, and remember they were not given to you, you earned and struggled for all you have!

I promise that once you find your center, your soul, that everything will make sense and you will have peace.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Maybe, though I have a sense of peace now. I’ve accepted where I am. I’m ok with it.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


bargaining. again.
break the cycle.
you can.
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Maybe, though I have a sense of peace now. I’ve accepted where I am. I’m ok with it.
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maybe if I just accept where I am it will be ok. but I'm lying and I don't have inner peace... next day, wash, rinse, repeat... living in the past. (that's bargaining)

take the steps... forward.

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stages of grief...

Denial, anger, bargaining will repeat again and again. This is normal, and most human brains get into this, especially with Delta, Gamma wave behavior.

Depression ventures into Alpha and Beta waves. A place the brain is at rest and usually healthy, unless there is trauma and these waves are disrupted.

See, trauma affects us physically, and those brain chemicals keep us in an environment because trauma is meant to kill but it doesn't. So as victims of trauma the body is responding to being killed over and over.

So the solution is to find the triggers, calm the triggers, move the triggers to other places in our bodies and flush the toxin out.

That's the stages of grief described physiologically. There are many other ways to describe grief and this is an individual process.

So now you have resources and tools... you're welcome.
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Maybe, though I have a sense of peace now. I’ve accepted where I am. I’m ok with it.
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maybe if I just accept where I am it will be ok. but I'm lying and I don't have inner peace... next day, wash, rinse, repeat... living in the past. (that's bargaining)

take the steps... forward.
 Quoting: MissCleo


To what? I have nothing.
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stages of grief...

Denial, anger, bargaining will repeat again and again. This is normal, and most human brains get into this, especially with Delta, Gamma wave behavior.

Depression ventures into Alpha and Beta waves. A place the brain is at rest and usually healthy, unless there is trauma and these waves are disrupted.

See, trauma affects us physically, and those brain chemicals keep us in an environment because trauma is meant to kill but it doesn't. So as victims of trauma the body is responding to being killed over and over.

So the solution is to find the triggers, calm the triggers, move the triggers to other places in our bodies and flush the toxin out.

That's the stages of grief described physiologically. There are many other ways to describe grief and this is an individual process.

So now you have resources and tools... you're welcome.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thanks.
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Maybe, though I have a sense of peace now. I’ve accepted where I am. I’m ok with it.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


maybe if I just accept where I am it will be ok. but I'm lying and I don't have inner peace... next day, wash, rinse, repeat... living in the past. (that's bargaining)

take the steps... forward.
 Quoting: MissCleo


To what? I have nothing.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


good, dive into the depression of nothing. it's a deep pool and you can probably swim, find out.

(I'm not suggesting suicide, if you are suicidal call the hotline. 1-800-273-8255)

I'm saying that it's ok to explore your sorrow.

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Maybe, though I have a sense of peace now. I’ve accepted where I am. I’m ok with it.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


maybe if I just accept where I am it will be ok. but I'm lying and I don't have inner peace... next day, wash, rinse, repeat... living in the past. (that's bargaining)

take the steps... forward.
 Quoting: MissCleo


To what? I have nothing.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


good, dive into the depression of nothing. it's a deep pool and you can probably swim, find out.

(I'm not suggesting suicide, if you are suicidal call the hotline. 1-800-273-8255)

I'm saying that it's ok to explore your sorrow.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I know it inside and out. I look into it and it looks back.
anna gaddafi
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maybe if I just accept where I am it will be ok. but I'm lying and I don't have inner peace... next day, wash, rinse, repeat... living in the past. (that's bargaining)

take the steps... forward.
 Quoting: MissCleo


To what? I have nothing.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


good, dive into the depression of nothing. it's a deep pool and you can probably swim, find out.

(I'm not suggesting suicide, if you are suicidal call the hotline. 1-800-273-8255)

I'm saying that it's ok to explore your sorrow.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I know it inside and out. I look into it and it looks back.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


oh dive in. but with a therapist who is there with a life jacket.
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To what? I have nothing.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


good, dive into the depression of nothing. it's a deep pool and you can probably swim, find out.

(I'm not suggesting suicide, if you are suicidal call the hotline. 1-800-273-8255)

I'm saying that it's ok to explore your sorrow.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I know it inside and out. I look into it and it looks back.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


oh dive in. but with a therapist who is there with a life jacket.
 Quoting: MissCleo


And if I’d rather drown?

I’m tired of living, tired of secrets, tired of yearning to be with someone who I could easily be with in death if not life. All this talk of happiness and recovery, it’s pointless. I can’t make the decision to end my own life, but at some point I’ll go to Libya, after my mother passes, when I retire. I want to die there. I’ll just go out in the desert and die. It’s what should have happened to me anyway. He’s gone and I’m still here.

If anything this life had taught me I’m easily replaceable, me being here and alive has no greater impact on the world than if I were gone. I’ve been to therapy, tried medications, nothing works. Some people don’t get happy endings. 45 years old, half my life behind me. I can’t imagine another 45 ahead of me, nor do I want to.

Edit ~ Yes I’m stubborn, no I don’t wallow in self pity. It’s all very matter of fact. I feel emotionally detached from it at times even. I don’t seek pity, I just interpret life how it comes at me.

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good, dive into the depression of nothing. it's a deep pool and you can probably swim, find out.

(I'm not suggesting suicide, if you are suicidal call the hotline. 1-800-273-8255)

I'm saying that it's ok to explore your sorrow.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I know it inside and out. I look into it and it looks back.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


oh dive in. but with a therapist who is there with a life jacket.
 Quoting: MissCleo


And if I’d rather drown?

I’m tired of living, tired of secrets, tired of yearning to be with someone who I could easily be with in death if not life. All this talk of happiness and recovery, it’s pointless. I can’t make the decision to end my own life, but at some point I’ll go to Libya, after my mother passes, when I retire. I want to die there. I’ll just go out in the desert and die. It’s what should have happened to me anyway. He’s gone and I’m still here.

If anything this life had taught me I’m easily replaceable, me being here and alive has no greater impact on the world than if I were gone. I’ve been to therapy, tried medications, nothing works. Some people don’t get happy endings. 45 years old, half my life behind me. I can’t imagine another 45 ahead of me, nor do I want to.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


yeah, I know, you are scared to be depressed. it's ok.
death isn't the result of depression. silly.

make an appointment on Monday to work this out with a therapist. look one up today and write down the phone number to call first thing.

it's ok. you'll be ok.

dedicate the next 2 years to getting healthy, I promise it will be worth it. this whole thing is crippling you.
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Re: I had an affair with Colonel Gaddafi in the late 80s
LIES, you mention 1988 and the "air raids" those occurred in 1986
Dont care what you think
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LIES, you mention 1988 and the "air raids" those occurred in 1986
 Quoting: Dr. Philco


people have their own truths.
relax Francis, right-fighter.
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OP, I honestly think the major cause of your suffering is being removed for your peer group, not being able to have either male or female friends, due to your father's lifestyle and control over you, as well as his extreme physical and emotional violence and mood swings.

Obviously the 1st man in your life who appeared to be kind to you and a good listener was going to fulfill a savior role.

I don't have much confidence in therapists. Most think that being a sounding board is sufficient. Better to go to the library or online and start reading books from other survivors of abuse who came from very dysfunctional families IMHO.
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OP, I honestly think the major cause of your suffering is being removed for your peer group, not being able to have either male or female friends, due to your father's lifestyle and control over you, as well as his extreme physical and emotional violence and mood swings.

Obviously the 1st man in your life who appeared to be kind to you and a good listener was going to fulfill a savior role.

I don't have much confidence in therapists. Most think that being a sounding board is sufficient. Better to go to the library or online and start reading books from other survivors of abuse who came from very dysfunctional families IMHO.
 Quoting: NotStarvingActress


I didn't believe in therapy either, before I went to therapy. And I"m glad I did. Because building a support group takes time and effort so all the help you can get is out there, then you pick and choose. There is no commitment it's a service to use.

Finding the right therapist requires some homework. Trying a variety is also a good experience to know the games they play.

A few basics in therapy:
1. 12 steps is a common easy program to follow and fits most situations where "life is in chaos".
2. Maslow's Hierarchy, stages of development we miss because of … situations.
3. journaling, I do mine on canvasses and make them a flow chart of my life and feelings.
4. feedback, from therapy. you talk, they listen. you talk, and talk and talk more until you are ready to heal.
5. support groups, survivors, like NotStarvingActress said, lots of reading.
6. tea. rituals of healthy recovery
7. you are not alone, find others, friends, people who have shared the same experience.
8. dedicate the rest of your life to healing and not living in the past. (this is part of 12 steps also, living in the present)
9. what ever else makes you feel good and not attached to your trauma. that means giving up Gaddafi also.
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LIES, you mention 1988 and the "air raids" those occurred in 1986
 Quoting: Dr. Philco


We know.
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Ana, What might help you more than therapy is to find a cause in which you can take a very active role, so that you can once again feel your own inner strength. Meaning volunteer with a local battered women's shelter. They'll be able to relate to your struggles to regain your self-esteem.
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Re: I had an affair with Colonel Gaddafi in the late 80s

Really? The idea of being intimate with any guy is repulsive to you. You can't think of a single hunky celebrity that you wouldn't mind being ravaged by? If that's the case you're a very unique person. I don't think there are many women like you in existence. Do you not think the fact you got raped has a lot to do with that?

Also the thing about emotions is you can overcome them if you force yourself. They are only a prison if you let them be. It's how people deal with phobias etc. They push past emotional barriers. Your psyche is not some fixed thing. It is malleable and you have free will to change things, it may not be easy but it's definitely possible, otherwise we'd basically be robots with no choices.

I'm not trying to be insulting but from reading about your history you seem quite a subservient kind of person. It's like you almost want to be in a situation where you feel control has been taken out of your hands and you're just going to plod along and accept it. Kinda like staying with your abusive father for so many years when you could have left at any point.
 Quoting: Drubble


probably not a good idea to punish a rape victim.

words of logic are helpful. and yes, she needs the shock of joy to bring her around.

So, yeah, she's repulsed by other men because she is repulsed by the rapist and doesn't know how to process those feelings. This is very common in rape victims.

Anna, there are specialists out there that deal specifically rape victims. You are not alone. You will not be in any kind of trouble to report the rape by Gaddafi. He raped lots of women.

Bless you child. You've survived alot and for a long time.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thank you for the kind words, and yes, life’s been...an experience to say the least.

But still, he didn’t rape me, I gave to him freely and willingly. I’m not repulsed by him...I’m repulsed by everyone but.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


no honey, he raped you.

you can deny and rationalize all you want.

get some help.
 Quoting: MissCleo


This is horrid.

Reading it raped me.





GLP