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I had an affair with Colonel Gaddafi in the late 80s

 
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Like I said, he claimed that only I could make the decision to convert, though I’m sure he’d find it preferable. He was of the impression that you can’t force someone to convert, the decision has to be made after careful thought and soul searching. That being said I’m sure he’d want my son to be raised in Islam.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


I'm sorry, he lied to you. Islam isn't a religion, it's a government, non-secular, of which he was a dictator. Islam is 100% Muslim, no exceptions. You were one of thousands of concubines who were lied to, the sad reality.

In the beginning it's like a honeymoon. That doesn't last. When the novelty wears off many Western women have their children taken away legally in Islam to be with the father. There is punishment for women who don't un-Westernize and conform to sharia.

Again, thank you for sharing your story. It's been a delight talking to you.
 Quoting: MissCleo


What's the difference between a concubine and a girlfriend, date or friend?

You keep saying concubine. In the eighties it wasn't that uncommon for girls to end up in bed with a man who caught their eye at dinner. I was far too shy for that but it seemed practically the usual thing. No one referred to their dates and girlfriends as concubines though.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


If a man is married and takes another women that woman is a mistress or concubine (being that Anna was paid for). Gaddafi was married to Safia in 1970 so Anna wasn't the wife. There was no courtship, just straight to bed from a dinner table. Again, in the eyes of Allah the man must marry before he has sex, the ritual was for him not her.

Gaddafi was a dictator, like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, or many others, when he wanted something he got it. That's sexy in a way (for a short time).

Concubines were flown in for Gaddafi over the years. Thousands like for the King of Brunei and the House of Saud princes.

But I believe Gaddafi wasn't aligned with the house of Saud. He knew the pecking order and asked to be crowned king of Africa. Saud had other plans, there is no room in the Caliphate but for ONE king and monarchy. So Gaddafi was disposed of using an oil for military assassination. Just like Saddam.
 Quoting: MissCleo


For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
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I'm sorry, he lied to you. Islam isn't a religion, it's a government, non-secular, of which he was a dictator. Islam is 100% Muslim, no exceptions. You were one of thousands of concubines who were lied to, the sad reality.

In the beginning it's like a honeymoon. That doesn't last. When the novelty wears off many Western women have their children taken away legally in Islam to be with the father. There is punishment for women who don't un-Westernize and conform to sharia.

Again, thank you for sharing your story. It's been a delight talking to you.
 Quoting: MissCleo


What's the difference between a concubine and a girlfriend, date or friend?

You keep saying concubine. In the eighties it wasn't that uncommon for girls to end up in bed with a man who caught their eye at dinner. I was far too shy for that but it seemed practically the usual thing. No one referred to their dates and girlfriends as concubines though.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


If a man is married and takes another women that woman is a mistress or concubine (being that Anna was paid for). Gaddafi was married to Safia in 1970 so Anna wasn't the wife. There was no courtship, just straight to bed from a dinner table. Again, in the eyes of Allah the man must marry before he has sex, the ritual was for him not her.

Gaddafi was a dictator, like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, or many others, when he wanted something he got it. That's sexy in a way (for a short time).

Concubines were flown in for Gaddafi over the years. Thousands like for the King of Brunei and the House of Saud princes.

But I believe Gaddafi wasn't aligned with the house of Saud. He knew the pecking order and asked to be crowned king of Africa. Saud had other plans, there is no room in the Caliphate but for ONE king and monarchy. So Gaddafi was disposed of using an oil for military assassination. Just like Saddam.
 Quoting: MissCleo


For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


He was assassinated for a couple of reasons, though this is the primary one, or at least the straw that broke the camel’s back so to speak. That being said I don’t think religion was a major factor outside of the ‘rebels’ who were on the ground fighting.
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Quite honestly, I think that if you had ended up with Gaddafi, Gaddafi would had treated you the same way ur literal dad did
 Quoting: Capt. James Cook


He was quite repulsed by my father’s treatment of me, he was also very loving and gentle. He never gave me any reason to fear him. What makes you think he’d suddenly start beating the snot out of me?
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Because you ask for it lol

:P

:P


:P


Just like when you made this thread lol :P


:3

:P


I think any "father" of urs, literal or figurative would do that to you :P


cuz you ask for it :P
 Quoting: Capt. James Cook


Now that’s just cruel.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


:P

I was banned shortly after I posted that

Not sure if I was banned because of that



I was just giving you an alternate view point :P



I just think that your relationship with "Papa" would had been a parent-child relationship


I don't see how it wold had been very equal in that sense.... given that he very well could had been ur dad



I honestly did feel like I was "textually assaulting" you at the time :P


sorry :P

:P

It's not a big deal tho :P


it's just textual :P

:P


I think that if "Papa" did physically like..... do something to you like your dad did..... it would had been something similar :P




You make it seem like Gaddafi would had treated you perfectly................ as a daughter or something






I really just think that to be involved with someone with such a big age difference........... they'll treat you like their child..... like they own you.... like a slave in a way



Ur not going to be treated like an equal......


Especially given ur AGE


You were 15 and he was 49


jeez :P




I'm just saying that you have daddy issues!!!!!




Please stop vilifying me!!

:P
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He was quite repulsed by my father’s treatment of me, he was also very loving and gentle. He never gave me any reason to fear him. What makes you think he’d suddenly start beating the snot out of me?
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Because you ask for it lol

:P

:P


:P


Just like when you made this thread lol :P


:3

:P


I think any "father" of urs, literal or figurative would do that to you :P


cuz you ask for it :P
 Quoting: Capt. James Cook


Now that’s just cruel.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


:P

I was banned shortly after I posted that

Not sure if I was banned because of that



I was just giving you an alternate view point :P



I just think that your relationship with "Papa" would had been a parent-child relationship


I don't see how it wold had been very equal in that sense.... given that he very well could had been ur dad



I honestly did feel like I was "textually assaulting" you at the time :P


sorry :P

:P

It's not a big deal tho :P


it's just textual :P

:P


I think that if "Papa" did physically like..... do something to you like your dad did..... it would had been something similar :P




You make it seem like Gaddafi would had treated you perfectly................ as a daughter or something






I really just think that to be involved with someone with such a big age difference........... they'll treat you like their child..... like they own you.... like a slave in a way



Ur not going to be treated like an equal......


Especially given ur AGE


You were 15 and he was 49


jeez :P




I'm just saying that you have daddy issues!!!!!




Please stop vilifying me!!

:P
 Quoting: Capt. James Cook


I’m not trying to vilify you, that just came across as particularly...I dunno, acidic? And I didn’t try to have you banned, I’m used to a lot worse than ‘textual assults’.

Anyway I was 15 and he was 46. Trying to understand where you’re coming from though...so in parent child relationships the child is treated like a slave usually? Huh? Hypothetically let’s say he did look to me solely as a daughter and I to him as a father, what makes you believe he’d physically and emotionally abuse me like my actual father? He gave no indication as to such. It’s not something I wanted, it was something I was desperately trying to escape from. But again our relationship was multidimensional, his role was in a sense paternal, but also highly intimate/romantic.

And yes, I have ‘daddy issues’, I’m sure anyone with a father like mine would.
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It looks like a cheap souvenir. The edge around the photo doesn’t line up at the top.

This is a crazy thread. Not her first, that’s for sure!
 Quoting: mona lizard


Well let’s be honest here, the thing hasn’t left my neck but to sleep and shower in 30 years. It’s gotten wet, dropped, stuff spilled on it, and I dropped it once making the glass chip a bit at the top. I’ve been extra careful since then (or at least tried to be) I don’t want moisture to seep in through there, though some undoubtedly has. It’s not like I can just take it and have it fixed if it breaks, still, taking it off seems wrong.

I keep my ring in a safety deposit box at the bank, it’s gaudy and would attract unwanted attention.

Thanks...? Not my first thread regarding this, no. I’ve discussed it on Reddit and 4chan, I came here after a user suggested it. This has been my first thread here, not entirely familiar with this site yet, but surely you can see when I became a member...?
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Why couldn't you take it to a jeweler for repairs?
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Mostly because I’d be a little paranoid about bringing a necklace with Papa’s photo in it into a jewelry store and asking for it to be fixed. His reputation isn’t that great in the US as I’m sure you know. Now I can manually take it apart myself and take an individual piece in, like the jewels or chain, but the glass inlay not so much.
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Tell them you stole it off a dead soldier.
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Well let’s be honest here, the thing hasn’t left my neck but to sleep and shower in 30 years. It’s gotten wet, dropped, stuff spilled on it, and I dropped it once making the glass chip a bit at the top. I’ve been extra careful since then (or at least tried to be) I don’t want moisture to seep in through there, though some undoubtedly has. It’s not like I can just take it and have it fixed if it breaks, still, taking it off seems wrong.

I keep my ring in a safety deposit box at the bank, it’s gaudy and would attract unwanted attention.

Thanks...? Not my first thread regarding this, no. I’ve discussed it on Reddit and 4chan, I came here after a user suggested it. This has been my first thread here, not entirely familiar with this site yet, but surely you can see when I became a member...?
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Why couldn't you take it to a jeweler for repairs?
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Mostly because I’d be a little paranoid about bringing a necklace with Papa’s photo in it into a jewelry store and asking for it to be fixed. His reputation isn’t that great in the US as I’m sure you know. Now I can manually take it apart myself and take an individual piece in, like the jewels or chain, but the glass inlay not so much.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Tell them you stole it off a dead soldier.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


That actually made me laugh. Might make the scenario even weirder.
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Well let’s be honest here, the thing hasn’t left my neck but to sleep and shower in 30 years. It’s gotten wet, dropped, stuff spilled on it, and I dropped it once making the glass chip a bit at the top. I’ve been extra careful since then (or at least tried to be) I don’t want moisture to seep in through there, though some undoubtedly has. It’s not like I can just take it and have it fixed if it breaks, still, taking it off seems wrong.

I keep my ring in a safety deposit box at the bank, it’s gaudy and would attract unwanted attention.

Thanks...? Not my first thread regarding this, no. I’ve discussed it on Reddit and 4chan, I came here after a user suggested it. This has been my first thread here, not entirely familiar with this site yet, but surely you can see when I became a member...?
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Why couldn't you take it to a jeweler for repairs?
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Mostly because I’d be a little paranoid about bringing a necklace with Papa’s photo in it into a jewelry store and asking for it to be fixed. His reputation isn’t that great in the US as I’m sure you know. Now I can manually take it apart myself and take an individual piece in, like the jewels or chain, but the glass inlay not so much.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Tell them you stole it off a dead soldier.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


lol. ok. that's hilarious. not in a cruel way, just the irony.

I betcha no one even recognizes him and ... no one really cares. My experience with jewelers is that they don't ask questions about personal things.
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I found the idea that he would care one way or the other about the death of his adopted daughter interesting.
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I'm sorry, he lied to you. Islam isn't a religion, it's a government, non-secular, of which he was a dictator. Islam is 100% Muslim, no exceptions. You were one of thousands of concubines who were lied to, the sad reality.

In the beginning it's like a honeymoon. That doesn't last. When the novelty wears off many Western women have their children taken away legally in Islam to be with the father. There is punishment for women who don't un-Westernize and conform to sharia.

Again, thank you for sharing your story. It's been a delight talking to you.
 Quoting: MissCleo


What's the difference between a concubine and a girlfriend, date or friend?

You keep saying concubine. In the eighties it wasn't that uncommon for girls to end up in bed with a man who caught their eye at dinner. I was far too shy for that but it seemed practically the usual thing. No one referred to their dates and girlfriends as concubines though.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


If a man is married and takes another women that woman is a mistress or concubine (being that Anna was paid for). Gaddafi was married to Safia in 1970 so Anna wasn't the wife. There was no courtship, just straight to bed from a dinner table. Again, in the eyes of Allah the man must marry before he has sex, the ritual was for him not her.

Gaddafi was a dictator, like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, or many others, when he wanted something he got it. That's sexy in a way (for a short time).

Concubines were flown in for Gaddafi over the years. Thousands like for the King of Brunei and the House of Saud princes.

But I believe Gaddafi wasn't aligned with the house of Saud. He knew the pecking order and asked to be crowned king of Africa. Saud had other plans, there is no room in the Caliphate but for ONE king and monarchy. So Gaddafi was disposed of using an oil for military assassination. Just like Saddam.
 Quoting: MissCleo


For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


Thank you for making sense. hf
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Why couldn't you take it to a jeweler for repairs?
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Mostly because I’d be a little paranoid about bringing a necklace with Papa’s photo in it into a jewelry store and asking for it to be fixed. His reputation isn’t that great in the US as I’m sure you know. Now I can manually take it apart myself and take an individual piece in, like the jewels or chain, but the glass inlay not so much.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Tell them you stole it off a dead soldier.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


lol. ok. that's hilarious. not in a cruel way, just the irony.

I betcha no one even recognizes him and ... no one really cares. My experience with jewelers is that they don't ask questions about personal things.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Probably not, just me being paranoid. It’s an easy thing to be when you’ve spent most of your life that way. You become hyper vigilant I suppose. Kind of like when Papa reached out to touch me the first time, I flinched, to his confusion.
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I found the idea that he would care one way or the other about the death of his adopted daughter interesting.
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You mean Hana? He loved her very much apparently, had a photo of her with his other children on the nightstand. Something gave me the impression that she might of been biologically his. There’s been speculation that she’s still alive somewhere, I wouldn’t know.
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What's the difference between a concubine and a girlfriend, date or friend?

You keep saying concubine. In the eighties it wasn't that uncommon for girls to end up in bed with a man who caught their eye at dinner. I was far too shy for that but it seemed practically the usual thing. No one referred to their dates and girlfriends as concubines though.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


If a man is married and takes another women that woman is a mistress or concubine (being that Anna was paid for). Gaddafi was married to Safia in 1970 so Anna wasn't the wife. There was no courtship, just straight to bed from a dinner table. Again, in the eyes of Allah the man must marry before he has sex, the ritual was for him not her.

Gaddafi was a dictator, like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, or many others, when he wanted something he got it. That's sexy in a way (for a short time).

Concubines were flown in for Gaddafi over the years. Thousands like for the King of Brunei and the House of Saud princes.

But I believe Gaddafi wasn't aligned with the house of Saud. He knew the pecking order and asked to be crowned king of Africa. Saud had other plans, there is no room in the Caliphate but for ONE king and monarchy. So Gaddafi was disposed of using an oil for military assassination. Just like Saddam.
 Quoting: MissCleo


For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


Thank you for making sense. hf
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Islam isn't a religion. It's a government. They don't belong to Western law or banking. They charge no interest rates on loans to Muslims and their banking system is different. Some of the OIC had to join in oil for dollar and in exchange for military protection.

However, Gaddafi was involved in lots of terrorism, jihad. He owned terrorists, he housed terrorists, he used terrorists which is allowed in dar ul Harb (land of war, which is anywhere outside Islam and perfectly legal under Islamic law). So there is a conflict of LAW (not religion).
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Mostly because I’d be a little paranoid about bringing a necklace with Papa’s photo in it into a jewelry store and asking for it to be fixed. His reputation isn’t that great in the US as I’m sure you know. Now I can manually take it apart myself and take an individual piece in, like the jewels or chain, but the glass inlay not so much.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Tell them you stole it off a dead soldier.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


lol. ok. that's hilarious. not in a cruel way, just the irony.

I betcha no one even recognizes him and ... no one really cares. My experience with jewelers is that they don't ask questions about personal things.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Probably not, just me being paranoid. It’s an easy thing to be when you’ve spent most of your life that way. You become hyper vigilant I suppose. Kind of like when Papa reached out to touch me the first time, I flinched, to his confusion.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


hyper vigilance is PTSD.
usually from childhood trauma.
you know this.
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Tell them you stole it off a dead soldier.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


lol. ok. that's hilarious. not in a cruel way, just the irony.

I betcha no one even recognizes him and ... no one really cares. My experience with jewelers is that they don't ask questions about personal things.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Probably not, just me being paranoid. It’s an easy thing to be when you’ve spent most of your life that way. You become hyper vigilant I suppose. Kind of like when Papa reached out to touch me the first time, I flinched, to his confusion.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


hyper vigilance is PTSD.
usually from childhood trauma.
you know this.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I didn’t have PTSD symptoms until after the revolution, most of my dreams involve something bad happening to him, like I’m there watching him getting killed but can’t do anything about it, I’m screaming but no one can hear me.
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If a man is married and takes another women that woman is a mistress or concubine (being that Anna was paid for). Gaddafi was married to Safia in 1970 so Anna wasn't the wife. There was no courtship, just straight to bed from a dinner table. Again, in the eyes of Allah the man must marry before he has sex, the ritual was for him not her.

Gaddafi was a dictator, like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, or many others, when he wanted something he got it. That's sexy in a way (for a short time).

Concubines were flown in for Gaddafi over the years. Thousands like for the King of Brunei and the House of Saud princes.

But I believe Gaddafi wasn't aligned with the house of Saud. He knew the pecking order and asked to be crowned king of Africa. Saud had other plans, there is no room in the Caliphate but for ONE king and monarchy. So Gaddafi was disposed of using an oil for military assassination. Just like Saddam.
 Quoting: MissCleo


For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


Thank you for making sense. hf
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Islam isn't a religion. It's a government. They don't belong to Western law or banking. They charge no interest rates on loans to Muslims and their banking system is different. Some of the OIC had to join in oil for dollar and in exchange for military protection.

However, Gaddafi was involved in lots of terrorism, jihad. He owned terrorists, he housed terrorists, he used terrorists which is allowed in dar ul Harb (land of war, which is anywhere outside Islam and perfectly legal under Islamic law). So there is a conflict of LAW (not religion).
 Quoting: MissCleo


Major terrorist organizations hated him. His views (especially regarding women) were too liberal. Al-Qaeda especially hated his government. (Again read The Green Book.) He had nothing to do with the bombings that were attributed to him (Lockerbie, Berlin, ect.) it was Syria.
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Can you tell us anything about his fascination / obsession with Paul Gascoigne the English football star? I always found that interesting. Thank you for this thread, fascinating.
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You mean Hana? He loved her very much apparently, had a photo of her with his other children on the nightstand. Something gave me the impression that she might of been biologically his. There’s been speculation that she’s still alive somewhere, I wouldn’t know.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


The idea that anyone would adopt a kid for anything other than a tax break was new to me at the time. He would, like, pick her up and carry her, too. They look. So happy.

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Can you tell us anything about his fascination / obsession with Paul Gascoigne the English football star? I always found that interesting. Thank you for this thread, fascinating.
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We didn’t really discuss sports, hah, but he did have his unusual interests. One of the weirder things (at least to me at the time) was the fact he liked Disco music. Now to a teenager in the late 80s this was tacky, he asked me to dance for him once, I ended up talking him into dancing with me. It was a little awkward, but fun. And my pleasure.
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You mean Hana? He loved her very much apparently, had a photo of her with his other children on the nightstand. Something gave me the impression that she might of been biologically his. There’s been speculation that she’s still alive somewhere, I wouldn’t know.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


The idea that anyone would adopt a kid for anything other than a tax break was new to me at the time. He would, like, pick her up and carry her, too. They look. So happy.


 Quoting: Asmodée


Sadly kids usually end up in bad situations due to our broken system...

That’s beautiful footage, I’ve seen it before, a long time ago. Makes me sad on a couple of different levels...that he lost her, and that I never got to experience that with him.
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If a man is married and takes another women that woman is a mistress or concubine (being that Anna was paid for). Gaddafi was married to Safia in 1970 so Anna wasn't the wife. There was no courtship, just straight to bed from a dinner table. Again, in the eyes of Allah the man must marry before he has sex, the ritual was for him not her.

Gaddafi was a dictator, like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, or many others, when he wanted something he got it. That's sexy in a way (for a short time).

Concubines were flown in for Gaddafi over the years. Thousands like for the King of Brunei and the House of Saud princes.

But I believe Gaddafi wasn't aligned with the house of Saud. He knew the pecking order and asked to be crowned king of Africa. Saud had other plans, there is no room in the Caliphate but for ONE king and monarchy. So Gaddafi was disposed of using an oil for military assassination. Just like Saddam.
 Quoting: MissCleo


For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


Thank you for making sense. hf
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Islam isn't a religion. It's a government. They don't belong to Western law or banking. They charge no interest rates on loans to Muslims and their banking system is different. Some of the OIC had to join in oil for dollar and in exchange for military protection.

However, Gaddafi was involved in lots of terrorism, jihad. He owned terrorists, he housed terrorists, he used terrorists which is allowed in dar ul Harb (land of war, which is anywhere outside Islam and perfectly legal under Islamic law). So there is a conflict of LAW (not religion).
 Quoting: MissCleo


I forgot to also point out that interest free loans applied to all citizens, even the Christian minority.
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For the record, he was assassinated because he refused to set up a central bank in league with the global banking cartel. As was Saddam.

It had nothing to do with religion or any nonsense like that. You either agree to become a banking client state or you face the wrath of its national military arms.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


Thank you for making sense. hf
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Islam isn't a religion. It's a government. They don't belong to Western law or banking. They charge no interest rates on loans to Muslims and their banking system is different. Some of the OIC had to join in oil for dollar and in exchange for military protection.

However, Gaddafi was involved in lots of terrorism, jihad. He owned terrorists, he housed terrorists, he used terrorists which is allowed in dar ul Harb (land of war, which is anywhere outside Islam and perfectly legal under Islamic law). So there is a conflict of LAW (not religion).
 Quoting: MissCleo


I forgot to also point out that interest free loans applied to all citizens, even the Christian minority.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


but the Christians pay a jizya.

Terrorists at the time, Sirhan Sirhan maybe was from Syria. The hotspot was Egypt and Saudi. And without a doubt Nasser Ali Ashour was Libyan. Proof came when there was a change in firing tactics in Beruit. Suddenly snipers were making one shot kills. IRA exchanged sharp shooters for explosives.

Then Libyan al-Megrahi in 2009 was suddenly cured of terminal cancer when he arrived back in Tripoli, lived another 3 years where he trained Richard Reid and others.

If these Libyan guys were patsys then it was the obligation of Gaddafi to turn in the culprits (Saudi) and he didn't. Now Saudi Monster has grown out of control and proceeded to kill off Mubarak, president of Liberia and Yemen, they broke with Qatar (also accused of terrorism ties) and are now going after Assad and Khamenei. Who will stand up to Saudi?
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Thank you for making sense. hf
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Islam isn't a religion. It's a government. They don't belong to Western law or banking. They charge no interest rates on loans to Muslims and their banking system is different. Some of the OIC had to join in oil for dollar and in exchange for military protection.

However, Gaddafi was involved in lots of terrorism, jihad. He owned terrorists, he housed terrorists, he used terrorists which is allowed in dar ul Harb (land of war, which is anywhere outside Islam and perfectly legal under Islamic law). So there is a conflict of LAW (not religion).
 Quoting: MissCleo


I forgot to also point out that interest free loans applied to all citizens, even the Christian minority.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


but the Christians pay a jizya.

Terrorists at the time, Sirhan Sirhan maybe was from Syria. The hotspot was Egypt and Saudi. And without a doubt Nasser Ali Ashour was Libyan. Proof came when there was a change in firing tactics in Beruit. Suddenly snipers were making one shot kills. IRA exchanged sharp shooters for explosives.

Then Libyan al-Megrahi in 2009 was suddenly cured of terminal cancer when he arrived back in Tripoli, lived another 3 years where he trained Richard Reid and others.

If these Libyan guys were patsys then it was the obligation of Gaddafi to turn in the culprits (Saudi) and he didn't. Now Saudi Monster has grown out of control and proceeded to kill off Mubarak, president of Liberia and Yemen, they broke with Qatar (also accused of terrorism ties) and are now going after Assad and Khamenei. Who will stand up to Saudi?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Christians had full citizenship rights just like Muslims. No one owned land in Libya, therefore jizya wouldn’t even apply as far as I know.

Papa payed off Lockerbie families and admitted to it to lift sanctions against Libya, he maintained he had nothing to do with it, and I believe him. The vast majority of foreign intelligence agrees. As far as I know al-Megrahi was never cured. I had a coworker who was given three months to live when diagnosed, she went on to live another four years. Cancer prognosis isn’t always right. The fact that there are Libyan terrorists in the world doesn’t mean they were state sponsored, Lord knows, Papa can’t take responsibility for the actions of each and every citizen. Now, it is his responsibility not to turn over Libyan citizens to foreign police unless there is undeniable proof they are guilty...perhaps he had it, perhaps he didn’t. The Saudis hated Papa, they laughed at him, they wanted him dead undoubtedly.

All these things are long past, sure I knew him for a week, but the man I knew was vastly different from the quintessential Arab Islamist. Remember how he took me to the opera? He dressed me, he braided my hair, why put me in a sleeveless dress and have my hair uncovered in braids and ribbons? Why be seen with an uncovered woman that was (under Islamic law) his wife? I doesn’t make sense to me.

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Islam isn't a religion. It's a government. They don't belong to Western law or banking. They charge no interest rates on loans to Muslims and their banking system is different. Some of the OIC had to join in oil for dollar and in exchange for military protection.

However, Gaddafi was involved in lots of terrorism, jihad. He owned terrorists, he housed terrorists, he used terrorists which is allowed in dar ul Harb (land of war, which is anywhere outside Islam and perfectly legal under Islamic law). So there is a conflict of LAW (not religion).
 Quoting: MissCleo


I forgot to also point out that interest free loans applied to all citizens, even the Christian minority.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


but the Christians pay a jizya.

Terrorists at the time, Sirhan Sirhan maybe was from Syria. The hotspot was Egypt and Saudi. And without a doubt Nasser Ali Ashour was Libyan. Proof came when there was a change in firing tactics in Beruit. Suddenly snipers were making one shot kills. IRA exchanged sharp shooters for explosives.

Then Libyan al-Megrahi in 2009 was suddenly cured of terminal cancer when he arrived back in Tripoli, lived another 3 years where he trained Richard Reid and others.

If these Libyan guys were patsys then it was the obligation of Gaddafi to turn in the culprits (Saudi) and he didn't. Now Saudi Monster has grown out of control and proceeded to kill off Mubarak, president of Liberia and Yemen, they broke with Qatar (also accused of terrorism ties) and are now going after Assad and Khamenei. Who will stand up to Saudi?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Christians had full citizenship rights just like Muslims. No one owned land in Libya, therefore jizya wouldn’t even apply as far as I know.

Papa payed off Lockerbie families and admitted to it to lift sanctions against Libya, he maintained he had nothing to do with it, and I believe him. The vast majority of foreign intelligence agrees. As far as I know al-Megrahi was never cured. I had a coworker who was given three months to live when diagnosed, she went on to live another four years. Cancer prognosis isn’t always right. The fact that there are Libyan terrorists in the world doesn’t mean they were state sponsored, Lord knows, Papa can’t take responsibility for the actions of each and every citizen. Now, it is his responsibility not to turn over Libyan citizens to foreign police unless there is undeniable proof they are guilty...perhaps he had it, perhaps he didn’t. The Saudis hated Papa, they laughed at him, they wanted him dead undoubtedly.

All these things are long past, sure I knew him for a week, but the man I knew was vastly different from the quintessential Arab Islamist. Remember how he took me to the opera? He dressed me, he braided my hair, why put me in a sleeveless dress and have my hair uncovered in braids and ribbons? Why be seen with an uncovered woman that was (under Islamic law) his wife? I doesn’t make sense to me.
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he wasn't a saint but how did Saudi gain so much power in the region?
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I forgot to also point out that interest free loans applied to all citizens, even the Christian minority.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


but the Christians pay a jizya.

Terrorists at the time, Sirhan Sirhan maybe was from Syria. The hotspot was Egypt and Saudi. And without a doubt Nasser Ali Ashour was Libyan. Proof came when there was a change in firing tactics in Beruit. Suddenly snipers were making one shot kills. IRA exchanged sharp shooters for explosives.

Then Libyan al-Megrahi in 2009 was suddenly cured of terminal cancer when he arrived back in Tripoli, lived another 3 years where he trained Richard Reid and others.

If these Libyan guys were patsys then it was the obligation of Gaddafi to turn in the culprits (Saudi) and he didn't. Now Saudi Monster has grown out of control and proceeded to kill off Mubarak, president of Liberia and Yemen, they broke with Qatar (also accused of terrorism ties) and are now going after Assad and Khamenei. Who will stand up to Saudi?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Christians had full citizenship rights just like Muslims. No one owned land in Libya, therefore jizya wouldn’t even apply as far as I know.

Papa payed off Lockerbie families and admitted to it to lift sanctions against Libya, he maintained he had nothing to do with it, and I believe him. The vast majority of foreign intelligence agrees. As far as I know al-Megrahi was never cured. I had a coworker who was given three months to live when diagnosed, she went on to live another four years. Cancer prognosis isn’t always right. The fact that there are Libyan terrorists in the world doesn’t mean they were state sponsored, Lord knows, Papa can’t take responsibility for the actions of each and every citizen. Now, it is his responsibility not to turn over Libyan citizens to foreign police unless there is undeniable proof they are guilty...perhaps he had it, perhaps he didn’t. The Saudis hated Papa, they laughed at him, they wanted him dead undoubtedly.

All these things are long past, sure I knew him for a week, but the man I knew was vastly different from the quintessential Arab Islamist. Remember how he took me to the opera? He dressed me, he braided my hair, why put me in a sleeveless dress and have my hair uncovered in braids and ribbons? Why be seen with an uncovered woman that was (under Islamic law) his wife? I doesn’t make sense to me.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


he wasn't a saint but how did Saudi gain so much power in the region?
 Quoting: MissCleo


As far as I know they had no power over Libya, I’ve seen Libyan propaganda portray them as demons in fact...Papa had a falling out with Egypt and didn’t agree with them on many things, he had tentative ties to neighboring Algeria, but his only real friends in his part of the world was Malta.
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I forgot to also point out that interest free loans applied to all citizens, even the Christian minority.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


but the Christians pay a jizya.

Terrorists at the time, Sirhan Sirhan maybe was from Syria. The hotspot was Egypt and Saudi. And without a doubt Nasser Ali Ashour was Libyan. Proof came when there was a change in firing tactics in Beruit. Suddenly snipers were making one shot kills. IRA exchanged sharp shooters for explosives.

Then Libyan al-Megrahi in 2009 was suddenly cured of terminal cancer when he arrived back in Tripoli, lived another 3 years where he trained Richard Reid and others.

If these Libyan guys were patsys then it was the obligation of Gaddafi to turn in the culprits (Saudi) and he didn't. Now Saudi Monster has grown out of control and proceeded to kill off Mubarak, president of Liberia and Yemen, they broke with Qatar (also accused of terrorism ties) and are now going after Assad and Khamenei. Who will stand up to Saudi?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Christians had full citizenship rights just like Muslims. No one owned land in Libya, therefore jizya wouldn’t even apply as far as I know.

Papa payed off Lockerbie families and admitted to it to lift sanctions against Libya, he maintained he had nothing to do with it, and I believe him. The vast majority of foreign intelligence agrees. As far as I know al-Megrahi was never cured. I had a coworker who was given three months to live when diagnosed, she went on to live another four years. Cancer prognosis isn’t always right. The fact that there are Libyan terrorists in the world doesn’t mean they were state sponsored, Lord knows, Papa can’t take responsibility for the actions of each and every citizen. Now, it is his responsibility not to turn over Libyan citizens to foreign police unless there is undeniable proof they are guilty...perhaps he had it, perhaps he didn’t. The Saudis hated Papa, they laughed at him, they wanted him dead undoubtedly.

All these things are long past, sure I knew him for a week, but the man I knew was vastly different from the quintessential Arab Islamist. Remember how he took me to the opera? He dressed me, he braided my hair, why put me in a sleeveless dress and have my hair uncovered in braids and ribbons? Why be seen with an uncovered woman that was (under Islamic law) his wife? I doesn’t make sense to me.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


he wasn't a saint but how did Saudi gain so much power in the region?
 Quoting: MissCleo


[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

Here’s a good example of him with the Saudis, that last bit was like fighting words imho, considering the Saudis like to think of themselves as the leaders of the Muslim world. But yeah, there was a lot of animosity there.

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but the Christians pay a jizya.

Terrorists at the time, Sirhan Sirhan maybe was from Syria. The hotspot was Egypt and Saudi. And without a doubt Nasser Ali Ashour was Libyan. Proof came when there was a change in firing tactics in Beruit. Suddenly snipers were making one shot kills. IRA exchanged sharp shooters for explosives.

Then Libyan al-Megrahi in 2009 was suddenly cured of terminal cancer when he arrived back in Tripoli, lived another 3 years where he trained Richard Reid and others.

If these Libyan guys were patsys then it was the obligation of Gaddafi to turn in the culprits (Saudi) and he didn't. Now Saudi Monster has grown out of control and proceeded to kill off Mubarak, president of Liberia and Yemen, they broke with Qatar (also accused of terrorism ties) and are now going after Assad and Khamenei. Who will stand up to Saudi?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Christians had full citizenship rights just like Muslims. No one owned land in Libya, therefore jizya wouldn’t even apply as far as I know.

Papa payed off Lockerbie families and admitted to it to lift sanctions against Libya, he maintained he had nothing to do with it, and I believe him. The vast majority of foreign intelligence agrees. As far as I know al-Megrahi was never cured. I had a coworker who was given three months to live when diagnosed, she went on to live another four years. Cancer prognosis isn’t always right. The fact that there are Libyan terrorists in the world doesn’t mean they were state sponsored, Lord knows, Papa can’t take responsibility for the actions of each and every citizen. Now, it is his responsibility not to turn over Libyan citizens to foreign police unless there is undeniable proof they are guilty...perhaps he had it, perhaps he didn’t. The Saudis hated Papa, they laughed at him, they wanted him dead undoubtedly.

All these things are long past, sure I knew him for a week, but the man I knew was vastly different from the quintessential Arab Islamist. Remember how he took me to the opera? He dressed me, he braided my hair, why put me in a sleeveless dress and have my hair uncovered in braids and ribbons? Why be seen with an uncovered woman that was (under Islamic law) his wife? I doesn’t make sense to me.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


he wasn't a saint but how did Saudi gain so much power in the region?
 Quoting: MissCleo


[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

Here’s a good example of him with the Saudis, that last bit was like fighting words imho, considering the Saudis like to think of themselves as the leaders of the Muslim world. But yeah, there was a lot of animosity there.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


The Saudis do consider themselves the leaders of the Muslim world, rulers of 2 billion population, home of Mecca, head of OIC, leadership of OPEC, owners of the most money of any individual on the planet, Royal Family larger than many governments, commander of ISIS, systematically killing other leaders in the Middle East to secure their power, and reforming the Caliphate under their control.

Who will stop them? Or is their global domination a good thing?
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lol, few Americans have "puritanical ancestors".
 Quoting: Fur Whisperer Pete


I’m referring to the inherently negative view of sex, not that all Americans literally have a Puritan ancestor.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


Just because the other poster makes a statement doesn't make it true. If anything the sex is out of control and that's what's wrong with society.
 Quoting: Fur Whisperer Pete


Oh boyy :P

Do I have a lot to say aboot that :P

Thread: To have sex for pleasure with someone is lustful physical bondage......
 Quoting: Capt. James Cook


I just read this thread...

So...you’re saying anytime you have sex with someone it’s physical bondage? Does that go both ways or is the female the one who’s enslaved to the man...?

When we have sex certain chemicals are released to create a pair bond, this is very much true. Some bonds are stronger than others, I’d be on the higher end of this spectrum. The idea of being with any other man is repulsive to me. The last time I had sex I laid there like a dead fish until he was done, and I insisted he use a condom, the idea of his ‘stuff’ being inside was just too much. After that I decided I didn’t want to put myself through that again for the sake of a ‘normal’ life.

And you’re assuming procreation was totally out of the picture, it obviously wasn’t...
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Christians had full citizenship rights just like Muslims. No one owned land in Libya, therefore jizya wouldn’t even apply as far as I know.

Papa payed off Lockerbie families and admitted to it to lift sanctions against Libya, he maintained he had nothing to do with it, and I believe him. The vast majority of foreign intelligence agrees. As far as I know al-Megrahi was never cured. I had a coworker who was given three months to live when diagnosed, she went on to live another four years. Cancer prognosis isn’t always right. The fact that there are Libyan terrorists in the world doesn’t mean they were state sponsored, Lord knows, Papa can’t take responsibility for the actions of each and every citizen. Now, it is his responsibility not to turn over Libyan citizens to foreign police unless there is undeniable proof they are guilty...perhaps he had it, perhaps he didn’t. The Saudis hated Papa, they laughed at him, they wanted him dead undoubtedly.

All these things are long past, sure I knew him for a week, but the man I knew was vastly different from the quintessential Arab Islamist. Remember how he took me to the opera? He dressed me, he braided my hair, why put me in a sleeveless dress and have my hair uncovered in braids and ribbons? Why be seen with an uncovered woman that was (under Islamic law) his wife? I doesn’t make sense to me.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


he wasn't a saint but how did Saudi gain so much power in the region?
 Quoting: MissCleo


[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

Here’s a good example of him with the Saudis, that last bit was like fighting words imho, considering the Saudis like to think of themselves as the leaders of the Muslim world. But yeah, there was a lot of animosity there.
 Quoting: anna gaddafi


The Saudis do consider themselves the leaders of the Muslim world, rulers of 2 billion population, home of Mecca, head of OIC, leadership of OPEC, owners of the most money of any individual on the planet, Royal Family larger than many governments, commander of ISIS, systematically killing other leaders in the Middle East to secure their power, and reforming the Caliphate under their control.

Who will stop them? Or is their global domination a good thing?
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No one until Europe gets fed up and we have another set of crusades. And, no, it’s not, to me anyway.

I preferred Papa’s peaceful outlook on religion, at least the outlook he had in private. A catholic and a Muslim leaning against each other praying to the same God in different ways.

I forgot to ask you, what’s the symbolism of the white shirt and cocaine? And the symbolism of my necklace? You peaked my curiosity.

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Hey Anna, I don't want to derail the amateur psychotherapy indoctrination if you are into that, but I was thinking last night about Ghadafi. I always liked him. My unlanded friends did not. They ranted about being forced to read the Green Book in school so I drove into the city to check out a copy. I was
impressed. I remember thinking he's a genius, maybe naive and jejune but a genius with a whole underdeveloped country to make his thesis project. A genius and a good heart.

I liked him. Always found him attractive too, not in his Michael Jackson duds but in his burka, the brown wrap he wore when he visited the undeveloped people.

He will be remembered a very long time.

He will be loved.

So what did y'all do for food? Room service? Delivery? Sneak out for sandwiches?

What else did you do? You have to do something else. You sleep, talk, eat but you have to do something more. You have to stretch. You want to move your large muscles. You want sunlight. Did you have a balcony or courtyard? Did you walk outside?

If you tell me you put him in a plain dark suit and went into the city to walk around I will die of envy or joy or both.

What language did you speak? Italian? English?

Did you sing? What did you dream when you slept? Did he snore? What did he smell like? Did he pray? Shower immediately after making love? Did you get to shower with him?

Did he throw his towels on the floor or hang them carefully (or lose them in the room, in the bedclothes or over chair backs as so do.

If you want to share those details...

But it's a sunny day too.
 Quoting: Mama Outlaw


Reading over the thread and realized I forgot to answer a question.

Did he snore?

Not really. I’ve always been a bit of an insomniac, even more so now with the night terrors, sometimes I’d wake up and could go back to sleep, so I’d sit up and watch him. Sounds creepy I know. He’d breathe deeply every now and again and I could tell he was dreaming sometimes. One night he mumbled something, but I couldn’t understand. I liked to run my fingers through his hair while he slept, I’d kiss him too, but stopped after I woke him up once. It didn’t upset him or anything, I just felt kinda bad about doing it.

I could hear Petra every night, she’d walk back and forth up the hallway, humming every now and again, I considered talking to her, but didn’t want Papa to wake up with me missing.
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