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When You Have A Hard Time Forgiving Someone....

 
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HB-global OP
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Thanks so much for the birthday wishes but how did you know it was my birthday?
 Quoting: Dads girl


I read it on one of your old posts. You said the 'first' but you didn't say the month so it was a hit & mess kinda thing.

:)

Edit: I wanted to be the first on glp to wish you a Happy Birthday!

cheers

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" Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord." ~ Jer. 17:5

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its ok man she a whore but not the whore

now image The whore thats my deal Delolastion abonintatioinan
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OP, I have an honest question for you. Since your father was a loser, why did you choose to make your name "Dad's Girl"?

Unmet needs? Forgiving is one thing, but holding on to a childhood need is not.

Or are your referring to your creator and calling Him Daddy?



I'm not being disrespectful so before some kneejerk reader wants to judge the intentions of the honest question, shove it and exercise empathy.
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Forgiveness for me means cutting people out of my life and never thinking of them again. It’s impossible to be bitter when you don’t think about. Hate is not the opposite of love. Indifference is.
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OP you have chosen..... wisely.

And do not bring sorrow to God's Holy Spirit by the way you live. Remember, he has identified you as his own, guaranteeing that you will be saved on the day of redemption.
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
Ephesians 4:30-32.

Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience,bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.
Colossians 3:12-14.
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Reading from a book hardly grants redemption before judgement day.

No person can say "you are saved" just because they play a part.
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OP, I have an honest question for you. Since your father was a loser, why did you choose to make your name "Dad's Girl"?

Unmet needs? Forgiving is one thing, but holding on to a childhood need is not.

Or are your referring to your creator and calling Him Daddy?



I'm not being disrespectful so before some kneejerk reader wants to judge the intentions of the honest question, shove it and exercise empathy.
 Quoting: SCRays9


Good question! I loved my dad but he wasn't perfect. He died at 52 with 2 brain tumors.

I have always called myself 'Daddysgirl' in reference to being God's daughter. He took over after my earthly father died and I've gotten so close to Him.

Thanks for asking this question!

hf
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When i can't forgive someone, I imagine them changing into a big fucking turd then disappearing.

that totally helps.
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I wanted to talk about this because I know it is one of the most prevalent subjects for our world today. People have had so much abuse and sadness that they feel it is IMPOSSIBLE to forgive those that have abused them.

I am 60 years old now and I had a very sad and disfunctional childhood. I was born with 85% yellow blood because my mother had RH factor and they had to give me a blood transfusion. She was an avid alcoholic since she was 18 and she was 31 when i was born. I was the 3rd of 3 girls and an 'accident' from having too much liquor on New Years Eve. She and my dad divorced when I was 7 and he had been having an affair with some woman down the block. The 23 years they were married they had numerous violent fights and I remember some of them but most of them I blocked from my mind.

My dad remarried a very jealous and vindictive woman with 2 kids. The boy physically assaulted me at the age of 8 and her daughter mocked me and made fun of me at school until I finally had enough and moved in with my aunt at 12. After that I moved from relatives to friends until I finally married at 20 just to get away from everything.

All of that is to say that I carried a lot of bitterness and rejection towards both of my parents. It took until I was 50 years old to understand how to 'forgive' them for what they did to me.

It's a simple remedy but really does work when you use it.

When I was overwhelmed with anger I turned towards God and asked Him to 'show' me each of them from 'His' point of view. Every time I 'saw' a vision of them as a 'child' and what they went through as children. That gave me a whole DIFFERENT perspective and melted my heart.

I learned that ALL of us are simply CHILDREN in these 'grown up' bodies...just trying to understand and keep our heads above water in this crazy and heartless world.

I know it sounds simple but it does WORK! Please don't knock it until you have tried it. It has worked for every single person I've shared it with. It changed their world from that point on.

This world needs LOVE and FORGIVENESS more than anything else. If we simply do these two things, this world will turn around into the world we all dream it to be...

red_heart
 Quoting: Dads girl



5 stars OP.

I'm so sorry that you had to go through so much. In my life so far there has been little to forgive- that is of any magnitude anyway. I have beeen lucky so far.

Maybe that's why I don't know what forgiveness even really is. Does it mean you just let go of all the negative emotions so they are not balled up inside you- eating away at you, essentially killing you? Does it mean you then feel neutral toward people who did horrible things? Is it a clean slate for the abusive person? Do you tell them you forgive them- or is it just a heaviness you let go of inside yourself for your own benefit?
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When you actually see them as the child that they are (we are all children in adult bodies) it helps to realize that they haven't matured enough to 'know' the more important things in life like loving others as much as yourself.

Forgiveness is for YOU and not the other person. It is freeing and breaks a heaviness that you weren't meant to carry all those years....

hf
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Forgiveness for me means cutting people out of my life and never thinking of them again. It’s impossible to be bitter when you don’t think about. Hate is not the opposite of love. Indifference is.
 Quoting: BS01


^^^This helps me a lot. I think this is essential for the wounded person.

I always thought it was weird that someone on their death bed would call someone in that they had done horrible things to and ask their forgiveness. To me, that is asking something from someone you have harmed, a kind of comfort, instead of giving them something.

And people who feel the need to go to a prison and tell a murderer that you forgive them for brutally slaughtering a loved one makes no sense.
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I'm not sure why any bad parent should be forgiven. Bad people are always going to be that way.
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I never had a problem "forgiving and forgetting" but at this point in my life (60's) that choosing to disassociate with toxic people is becoming easier. I'm tired of discussing everything to death and would rather just erase them from my life & live in peace.
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HB-global OP
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Thanks so much for the birthday wishes but how did you know it was my birthday?
 Quoting: Dads girl


I read it on one of your old posts. You said the 'first' but you didn't say the month so it was a hit & mess kinda thing.

:)

Edit: I wanted to be the first on glp to wish you a Happy Birthday!

cheers
 Quoting: tcs

Happy Bday2
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Hard but needed topic. hugs for posting this.

hf
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grouphug
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anger1
-Heed the warning or endure the mourning
Favor ain't fair
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In my world view, we actually choose which family/parents/life situation we are born into. The purpose of life on earth is to learn lessons and evolve into higher awareness. We pick our lessons that we want to learn in this life and we keep repeating those lessons until we have mastered them, then we move on to other lessons. Sometimes we are born into difficult circumstances in order to overcome and evolve by leaps and bounds; but sometimes we are burning off karma for past actions.

Many times people who are abused will become abusers themselves, repeating the life script. It is very freeing to realize that your parents (or whoever) did what they did because of their upbringing. It is your choice to continue to repeat that behavior or to consciously reject that behavior and become a better person, thereby ending the cycle of abuse.

Holding on to old resentments makes you a bitter person. You can’t change the past, but you can change your perspective of the past and instead of clinging to your victim hood, you can let it go of it and move forward toward a better life, a life filled with love and joy.

I like to think that everything happens for a reason, and usually we can’t see the reason at the time that it is happening, but it becomes apparent later. But everything that has happened in your life, good, bad or indifferent has made you into the person that you are at this moment in time. Acceptance of who you are and forgiveness of yourself for your past mistakes is a very good place to start with recovering your authentic self.

We are all human, no one is perfect. We all make mistakes. Learning from our mistakes is what makes the difference between living a good life or living a life of pain and suffering. Let pain and suffering be your teacher, not your master. Bless you all on your journey home.
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not MY problem ... I don't hold grudges, and hate requires too much (wasted) energy, so I just MOVE ON - I don't hate anyone, even those I should or those who hate me ... it's just a BLACK HOLE

besides, you can't forgive anyone but your SELF ... (for being sucked into that black hole, because you didn't MOVE ON- with grace and ease)

you can't please everyone, so focus on pleasing yourself... and not judging others
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In my world view, we actually choose which family/parents/life situation we are born into. The purpose of life on earth is to learn lessons and evolve into higher awareness. We pick our lessons that we want to learn in this life and we keep repeating those lessons until we have mastered them, then we move on to other lessons. Sometimes we are born into difficult circumstances in order to overcome and evolve by leaps and bounds; but sometimes we are burning off karma for past actions.

Many times people who are abused will become abusers themselves, repeating the life script. It is very freeing to realize that your parents (or whoever) did what they did because of their upbringing. It is your choice to continue to repeat that behavior or to consciously reject that behavior and become a better person, thereby ending the cycle of abuse.

Holding on to old resentments makes you a bitter person. You can’t change the past, but you can change your perspective of the past and instead of clinging to your victim hood, you can let it go of it and move forward toward a better life, a life filled with love and joy.

I like to think that everything happens for a reason, and usually we can’t see the reason at the time that it is happening, but it becomes apparent later. But everything that has happened in your life, good, bad or indifferent has made you into the person that you are at this moment in time. Acceptance of who you are and forgiveness of yourself for your past mistakes is a very good place to start with recovering your authentic self.

We are all human, no one is perfect. We all make mistakes. Learning from our mistakes is what makes the difference between living a good life or living a life of pain and suffering. Let pain and suffering be your teacher, not your master. Bless you all on your journey home.
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We need to forgive others for our own sake.

We must forgive to be forgiven by GOD!

Many blessings to you, OP!blwkss
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kitty Indeed as it says in the Lord's prayer.

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.

Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.


Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Note: Something evil is going on because I have always remembered this as on earth, not in earth. The pope wanted to make this change several months ago and somehow he has managed to do it on the internet. The plain fact is that mankind lives on the earth, devils live in the earth.
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I wanted to talk about this because I know it is one of the most prevalent subjects for our world today. People have had so much abuse and sadness that they feel it is IMPOSSIBLE to forgive those that have abused them.

I am 60 years old now and I had a very sad and disfunctional childhood. I was born with 85% yellow blood because my mother had RH factor and they had to give me a blood transfusion. She was an avid alcoholic since she was 18 and she was 31 when i was born. I was the 3rd of 3 girls and an 'accident' from having too much liquor on New Years Eve. She and my dad divorced when I was 7 and he had been having an affair with some woman down the block. The 23 years they were married they had numerous violent fights and I remember some of them but most of them I blocked from my mind.

My dad remarried a very jealous and vindictive woman with 2 kids. The boy physically assaulted me at the age of 8 and her daughter mocked me and made fun of me at school until I finally had enough and moved in with my aunt at 12. After that I moved from relatives to friends until I finally married at 20 just to get away from everything.

All of that is to say that I carried a lot of bitterness and rejection towards both of my parents. It took until I was 50 years old to understand how to 'forgive' them for what they did to me.

It's a simple remedy but really does work when you use it.

When I was overwhelmed with anger I turned towards God and asked Him to 'show' me each of them from 'His' point of view. Every time I 'saw' a vision of them as a 'child' and what they went through as children. That gave me a whole DIFFERENT perspective and melted my heart.

I learned that ALL of us are simply CHILDREN in these 'grown up' bodies...just trying to understand and keep our heads above water in this crazy and heartless world.

I know it sounds simple but it does WORK! Please don't knock it until you have tried it. It has worked for every single person I've shared it with. It changed their world from that point on.

This world needs LOVE and FORGIVENESS more than anything else. If we simply do these two things, this world will turn around into the world we all dream it to be...

red_heart
 Quoting: Dads girl


Wow, thank you for sharing. I'm sure this post will hit home and hopefully help a lot of people. It did for me.

hf
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First let me say I agree in principle with the OP. He or she is right that if you lived the life of the bad people, you very well might do the same bad things.

I don't like the word forgive in the context of "forgive but don't forget".

I don't really see that as forgiving, and I'm perfectly ok with that. (not forgiving)

I think what you are doing is "understanding".

Joe grew up in a house of bullies.
Joe stepped on my toe on purpose.
I don't waste my time thinking "Joe shouldn't step oh my toe".
That's crazy talk that will keep me up at night.
Because that is who Joe is.
Of course Joe is going to step on toes.
I don't forgive Joe or forget Joe. I just understand Joe.
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I wanted to talk about this because I know it is one of the most prevalent subjects for our world today. People have had so much abuse and sadness that they feel it is IMPOSSIBLE to forgive those that have abused them.

I am 60 years old now and I had a very sad and disfunctional childhood. I was born with 85% yellow blood because my mother had RH factor and they had to give me a blood transfusion. She was an avid alcoholic since she was 18 and she was 31 when i was born. I was the 3rd of 3 girls and an 'accident' from having too much liquor on New Years Eve. She and my dad divorced when I was 7 and he had been having an affair with some woman down the block. The 23 years they were married they had numerous violent fights and I remember some of them but most of them I blocked from my mind.

My dad remarried a very jealous and vindictive woman with 2 kids. The boy physically assaulted me at the age of 8 and her daughter mocked me and made fun of me at school until I finally had enough and moved in with my aunt at 12. After that I moved from relatives to friends until I finally married at 20 just to get away from everything.

All of that is to say that I carried a lot of bitterness and rejection towards both of my parents. It took until I was 50 years old to understand how to 'forgive' them for what they did to me.

It's a simple remedy but really does work when you use it.

When I was overwhelmed with anger I turned towards God and asked Him to 'show' me each of them from 'His' point of view. Every time I 'saw' a vision of them as a 'child' and what they went through as children. That gave me a whole DIFFERENT perspective and melted my heart.

I learned that ALL of us are simply CHILDREN in these 'grown up' bodies...just trying to understand and keep our heads above water in this crazy and heartless world.

I know it sounds simple but it does WORK! Please don't knock it until you have tried it. It has worked for every single person I've shared it with. It changed their world from that point on.

This world needs LOVE and FORGIVENESS more than anything else. If we simply do these two things, this world will turn around into the world we all dream it to be...

red_heart
 Quoting: Dads girl


Wonderful post. Thank you
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If someone asks for "forgiveness" then it most certainly be considered--based on the apparent sincerity. If you forgive without even being asked, you are a sucker--a useless person regarding anything of importance.

Not forgiving does not equate living with unhealthy emotions. Hate and mistrust is a good thing. If you are weak enough to allow other peoples transgressions against you, or other's, to keep you up at night, you need to work on your own mental state.


Forgiving everything and everyone without just cause is just living in la la land. That is not productive or intelligent.
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Thread: Do you forgive the Church/Pope [Poll] (Page 2)
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We need to forgive others for our own sake.

We must forgive to be forgiven by GOD!

Many blessings to you, OP!blwkss
 Quoting: 1r0n4n9el


kitty Indeed as it says in the Lord's prayer.

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.

Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.


Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Note: Something evil is going on because I have always remembered this as on earth, not in earth. The pope wanted to make this change several months ago and somehow he has managed to do it on the internet. The plain fact is that mankind lives on the earth, devils live in the earth.
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Judith: your right! I remember well from childhood that it was "on Earth". Another mandala change or what? Tks for pointing it out.
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Two great and short videos on childhood trauma, spoken with compassion, humor and fabulous illustration.

I feel you...hf

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Its one of those things where we can pass it down the line or break the cycle. I'm trying to break the cycle.
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Its one of those things where we can pass it down the line or break the cycle. I'm trying to break the cycle.
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For *you* in any case.... Trauma is too useful to be gotten rid of.





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