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"Jesus Christ" is a false name and title for the Messiah

 
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It's not "Yeshua"? Never heard or seen the "Yahushua" before. Where'd it come from?
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Jesus Christ is Satan.
 Quoting: Photina


wow , thats strange
 Quoting: Vaellene


The Messiah was NEVER called Jesus or the Christ in his lifetime. Only after Constantine was he called that.
 Quoting: Photina


The ANgel of GOD told the MOther of God to name him Jesus so you are wrong
 Quoting: Vaellene


No, that is incorrect. Exactly like the Commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is a lie.

The original Hebrew is, "Thou Shalt Not MURDER"

The letter "J" was not invented until the English language came along some 500+/- years after Yeshua died and rose from the dead.
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It’s ok bro. Don’t worry too much. Just call him you lord and savior. He is down with that.
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Perfect! Exactly!
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Alexander the Great introduced tons of Greek names in that time period.

So who knows.

Better yet, who cares. Whether Peter is called Pierre in Quebec makes no difference to the identity of the man, he's still himself.

So please keep your judgemental, rigid, fundamental ideas to yourself.

You're wrong.

You need to accept all people and never criticize or judge, only help and make others happy according to their dreams and goals.

THATS GOD.

Anything else is actually a demon.

The Church put a demon in the old testament, not Highest Love and Goodness Higher Mind All That Really Exists. They hijacked spiritual growth by sending everyone to Saturn/Satan, judgemental rigid ugly lower mind abuse of others.

So just stop.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


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"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9

"It will be good for those servants whose master finds them WATCHING when he comes..."Luke 12:37

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All brainwashing, I feel sorry for anyone believing it, even if they mean well, it's childish.
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The Christ figure had a real name. It was, Esu Immanuel. The name of Jesus was given by Paul, a Roman soldier who became a Christian, however he spread falsehoods about the man, including his name.
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How do people end up getting obsessed with this stuff?
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How do people end up getting obsessed with this stuff?
 Quoting: Asmodée


I wouldn't call it an "obsession" Its more along the lines of; Take for instance a Oneness Pentecostal; They believe that when a person is baptized that if the pastor doesn't say "In the name of Jesus" I baptize you, then you are not saved. When Jesus said, Therefore go and baptize in the Name of the "Father and of the son and of the holy spirit" Where a pastor says one or the other, it is the same. Just as There is God the father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit" All one in the same.
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In the Prose Edda, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson, Christ is mentioned in a chapter called Gylfaginning.

65. Kristskenningar.
Hvernig skal Krist kenna? Svá, at kalla hann skapara himins ok jarðar, engla ok sólar, stýranda heims ok himinríkis ok engla, konung himna ok sólar ok engla ok Jórsala ok Jórdánar ok Gríklands, ráðandi postula ok heilagra manna. Forn skáld hafa kennt hann við Urðarbrunn ok Róm, sem kvað Eilífr Guðrúnarson:

"How to recognise Christ, to call him the creator of heaven and earth, angels and the sun, the guide of the world and heaven and angels, king of heavens and sun and angels and Jerusalem and Jordan and Greece, the ruler of apostles and holy humans.
Ancient poets have linked him with Urðarbrunn (earth well) and Rome, as written by Eilífr Guðrúnarson."


Christ seems to be the name, or description used in old Norse manuscripts.
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The Christ figure had a real name. It was, Esu Immanuel. The name of Jesus was given by Paul, a Roman soldier who became a Christian, however he spread falsehoods about the man, including his name.
 Quoting: bobinthebox


Which Bible does that come from ... I can only find references to that name in article updates from the Galactic Federation.
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It's not "Yeshua"? Never heard or seen the "Yahushua" before. Where'd it come from?
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That doesn't have God's name in the name.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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I think that all religions come from the same origin.

If you look at the philosophy side of this, the idea behind the collection of stories and prophecies you would generally find, could be to forecast the future, based on previous knowledge and experience, since it is well known that humans are prone to repeating mistakes.

A religion could, at least initially, be a road map to follow from the usual cycle of horror and mistakes, into a higher level of existence.

Then as time goes by, and confidence grows in religions, they are converted to serve better as a tool for population control and then exploitation.
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I think that all religions come from the same origin.

If you look at the philosophy side of this, the idea behind the collection of stories and prophecies you would generally find, could be to forecast the future, based on previous knowledge and experience, since it is well known that humans are prone to repeating mistakes.

A religion could, at least initially, be a road map to follow from the usual cycle of horror and mistakes, into a higher level of existence.

Then as time goes by, and confidence grows in religions, they are converted to serve better as a tool for population control and then exploitation.
 Quoting: Alex9


All religions do not come from the same God. That is what will be preached during the Great Tribulation period. A "One World Religion"
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I think that all religions come from the same origin.

If you look at the philosophy side of this, the idea behind the collection of stories and prophecies you would generally find, could be to forecast the future, based on previous knowledge and experience, since it is well known that humans are prone to repeating mistakes.

A religion could, at least initially, be a road map to follow from the usual cycle of horror and mistakes, into a higher level of existence.

Then as time goes by, and confidence grows in religions, they are converted to serve better as a tool for population control and then exploitation.
 Quoting: Alex9


All religions do not come from the same God. That is what will be preached during the Great Tribulation period. A "One World Religion"
 Quoting: paramedic


I believe there is just one God.
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I think that all religions come from the same origin.

If you look at the philosophy side of this, the idea behind the collection of stories and prophecies you would generally find, could be to forecast the future, based on previous knowledge and experience, since it is well known that humans are prone to repeating mistakes.

A religion could, at least initially, be a road map to follow from the usual cycle of horror and mistakes, into a higher level of existence.

Then as time goes by, and confidence grows in religions, they are converted to serve better as a tool for population control and then exploitation.
 Quoting: Alex9


All religions do not come from the same God. That is what will be preached during the Great Tribulation period. A "One World Religion"
 Quoting: paramedic


I believe there is just one God.
 Quoting: Alex9


That puts your faith on the same level as demons.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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“I have come in My Father’s Name and you do not receive Me, if another comes in his own name, him you would receive.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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In the same way "God" or "the LORD" is a false name for the God of Israel.

The correct name for the Messiah is Yahushua, and His title is not "the Christ", it's THE MESSIAH.
 Quoting: Photina


I disagree with you for the simple fact that each day there are multiple thousands of Christians who receive Blessings.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Your logic is seriously flawed......as usual.

But then again, your mind is so thoroughly poisoned with Religitardism that it’s rendered you incapable of reason and rationale.

Blessings come to all different people, including Jews, Taoists, Muslims, NON-Christians, Agnostics, Hindus, and everyone else that doesn’t subscribe to religious doctrine.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


So who made you the expert of all things?

Talk about arrogance as typical of a disalusioned atheist.

You're a legend all right...in YOUR mind.

All I can do is pray that you will be shown the truth before it's too late.

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Photina: What Religion / sect / doctrine do you follow
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Photina: What Religion / sect / doctrine do you follow
 Quoting: paramedic


I believe in the God of Israel and His Messiah.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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The Christ figure had a real name. It was, Esu Immanuel. The name of Jesus was given by Paul, a Roman soldier who became a Christian, however he spread falsehoods about the man, including his name.
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Photina: What Religion / sect / doctrine do you follow
 Quoting: paramedic


I believe in the God of Israel and His Messiah.
 Quoting: Photina


As do I. Where did you read the "beliefs" you have regarding Jesus from?
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Photina: What Religion / sect / doctrine do you follow
 Quoting: paramedic


I believe in the God of Israel and His Messiah.
 Quoting: Photina


As do I. Where did you read the "beliefs" you have regarding Jesus from?
 Quoting: paramedic


Are you a trinitarian???
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Photina: What Religion / sect / doctrine do you follow
 Quoting: paramedic


I believe in the God of Israel and His Messiah.
 Quoting: Photina


As do I. Where did you read the "beliefs" you have regarding Jesus from?
 Quoting: paramedic


Are you a trinitarian???
 Quoting: Photina


I will tell you, after you tell me what written accounts / manuscripts / book(s) you "go" by.
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I believe in the God of Israel and His Messiah.
 Quoting: Photina


As do I. Where did you read the "beliefs" you have regarding Jesus from?
 Quoting: paramedic


Are you a trinitarian???
 Quoting: Photina


I will tell you, after you tell me what written accounts / manuscripts / book(s) you "go" by.
 Quoting: paramedic


Stop wasting my time.

And DON'T SAY YOU WORSHIP THE SAME GOD AS ME IF YOU ARE A TRINITARIAN.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Can someone explain to me what is messiah?
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Can someone explain to me what is messiah?
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"Seventy weeks are decreed upon Your people and upon Your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to forgive iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal vision and prophet, and to anoint the most holy place. Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the word to restore and to build Jerusalem unto one anointed, a prince, shall be seven weeks; and for sixty- two weeks, it shall be built again, with broad place and moat, but in troublous times. And after the sixty-two weeks shall an anointed one be cut off, and be no more; and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which cause destruction; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out upon that which cause destruction."
Daniel 9:24-27
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Prophecy of the Messiah

Exodus 23:20-21(KJV) 20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

John 17:26
And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

I say what the Father has said John 12:49-50

John 14:3
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

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Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Prophecy of the Messiah

Exodus 23:20-21(KJV) 20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

John 17:26
And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
 Quoting: Photina


I know this is about the angel in Exodus but Christ is not an angel.

Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?


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