Conservatives call for constitutional intervention | |
JAZZz50
User ID: 73965752 United States 08/12/2018 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | though i agree with some of the ideas,this is not the solution. it sounds like"you can't trust them, but trust me instead umm cause i say so." JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
the fuse
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Sterling Malory Archer
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BadProgBad
User ID: 76562874 United States 08/12/2018 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights. Quoting: MarPep 'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken. Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention. It is not actually a "constitutional convention." Please read this: Thread: Protecting the Constitution from Career Politicians Last Edited by BadProgBad on 08/12/2018 08:57 PM All enemies, foreign and domestic. |
BadProgBad
User ID: 76562874 United States 08/12/2018 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken. Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention. You have a valid point. So what do we do? Constitutional Amendments, one at a time. What you said. This is what an Article 5 Convention of States actually is! It is not a "constitutional" convention. As provided for in our Constitution. All enemies, foreign and domestic. |
Interested_1
User ID: 73619170 United States 08/12/2018 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states." Quoting: GTB These are all things I would 100% get behind, I just fear having so many unaccountable, known traitors and Commies playing around so dangerously close to a Constitutional Convention. Both sides currently have an authoritarian streak going. This should worry people IMHO. I agree. This sounded like a great idea when I first heard it, but the more I looked into it, I saw much more possibility of it being completely misused. "Constitutional Convention" and "Convention of States" both have such a nice ring to them, but I fear they are nothing more than marketing bait-and-switch tactics. Take the red pill now...later it will come as a suppository. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 08/12/2018 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "“We’re in a battle for the future of our country,” Coburn told the assembly of mostly conservative state lawmakers meeting in New Orleans. “We’re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or we’re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, I’m going to be free.” Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS Convention of States, with Alec’s support, is one of three prominent conservative groups pushing for a new constitutional convention. Under article V, if two-thirds of state legislatures so choose, they can force congress to convene such a meeting. On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states." [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] there's bigger fish to fry. |
The Patriot Mind
User ID: 72821184 United States 08/12/2018 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights. Quoting: MarPep Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok. A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under. Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people. I’m sorry your just wrong Anything can be brought to table during a constitutional convention period Fuck that shit Im not wrong. 45 states have applied to congress for Article 5 and its well established now that if the scope of the convention isnt the same, it wont be called, and it hasnt. When 2/3s charter for the same subject, congress is obligated to call the convention, at which point the process starts. Once its done, 3/4s of all state legislatures need to ratify it. If you guys think this process is easy and will destroy the constitution, then you are clearly misinformed. States hold amendment votes that dont destroy their states and if you think 3/4s of your local state assemblies would vote in a dictatorship then you guys are in lalaland. The media and federal government hate the idea of an article 5 because it would limit their power, if they ignore the result of the process its game on. Your argument is an entirely different one than the one proposed ... under a constitutional convention anything can happen... not saying it wouldn't be hard and unlikely to happen ... but the mere fact that it could happen to change the constitution as written and fundamentally change America is enough I do not want one Fighting and triggering liberals and SJW's in the trenches of their safe spaces since 2014 Signed, The Patriot Mind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63155543 United States 08/13/2018 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the only way to save the republic short of armed confrontation in the future. Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS Unfortunately, there is no other way to save it. Antifa and other dipshits are more than willing to engage in conflict and seem to do so readily. Those of us who wish to be left the hell alone will eventually run out of options. As these masses creep and continue their incessant move towards removal of us who don't wish to engage them? They will leave us no choice. At that point, they'll be mowed down like grass. They really have no comprehension of the shit storm they're starting. Wearing a black mask and spouting bullshit doesn't stop your eventual demise should you continue doing so. Eventually, you dipshits WILL meet someone who is tired of your shit and will grant you your acceptance to Valhalla or whatever the fuck you think is waiting for you. I'm going to have to agree with this...it's probably the truest, most sensible, way out of the fuck up that is going on. It's becoming a log jam, and there's really no clearing that without blowing something up. I'm about ready for that "turning of the page". This is all getting silly and out of control. Time to ramp up the push back. |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 71364108 United States 08/13/2018 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the only way to save the republic short of armed confrontation in the future. Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS There is nothing wrong with the constitution. Is doesn't need to be fixed. Those who think the Constitution can be fixed by a corrupt political establishment are not out friends. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 71364108 United States 08/13/2018 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Spaginal Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok. A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under. Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people. I’m sorry your just wrong Anything can be brought to table during a constitutional convention period Fuck that shit Im not wrong. 45 states have applied to congress for Article 5 and its well established now that if the scope of the convention isnt the same, it wont be called, and it hasnt. When 2/3s charter for the same subject, congress is obligated to call the convention, at which point the process starts. Once its done, 3/4s of all state legislatures need to ratify it. If you guys think this process is easy and will destroy the constitution, then you are clearly misinformed. States hold amendment votes that dont destroy their states and if you think 3/4s of your local state assemblies would vote in a dictatorship then you guys are in lalaland. The media and federal government hate the idea of an article 5 because it would limit their power, if they ignore the result of the process its game on. Your argument is an entirely different one than the one proposed ... under a constitutional convention anything can happen... not saying it wouldn't be hard and unlikely to happen ... but the mere fact that it could happen to change the constitution as written and fundamentally change America is enough I do not want one This. Anything could dam well happen with the bunch of corrupt politicians in DC now. To expect them to fix the system is the height of naivety. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Lime Flavoured Redux
User ID: 76836819 United Kingdom 08/13/2018 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The issue I have with term limits for Congress, unless they are relatively long (say 10 terms in the house and 3 or 4 in the senate) is that it means you have noone with any experience, so noone would know what they were doing. |
The Sheeple's Sheeple
User ID: 74522909 United States 08/13/2018 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights. Quoting: MarPep YUP ! Yes! Article V is too dangerous. But by enforcing article Vll we can get our country back. [link to www.reclaimingtherepublic.org] |
IRQ_1
User ID: 76599782 United States 08/13/2018 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken. Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention. Me neither I would rather count on the Federal level than State level. I would go with the Federal Level over State. Disagree Local neighbors should come first followed by community, State then Federal the way the Founding Fathers intended. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
The Predator Editor
User ID: 61649421 United States 08/13/2018 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no need for this, because the baby (the constitution/bill of rights) is fine. We just need to get rid of the poopie diapers (pedophiles,occultist,rapist,terrorist etc.) and stinky bath water (drain the swamp). Feed (enforce the known laws of the land) and burp the baby. Finally, put on a new diady (show respect to it's place as a Holy Covenant). |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 76762623 United States 08/13/2018 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken. Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 76762623 United States 08/13/2018 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The issue I have with term limits for Congress, unless they are relatively long (say 10 terms in the house and 3 or 4 in the senate) is that it means you have noone with any experience, so noone would know what they were doing. And long term experience has got us ...... *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 76762623 United States 08/13/2018 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You and your fellow Trumpsters fell for it OP. They gave you Trump as your last hope, and two years later you are still seeing the country and your freedoms being destroyed, so now at your last resort you welcome the idea of a Constitutional Convention. Quoting: Garden Serpent $3.50 for you laddy. Two years to undue all of the corruption of the last 20 years, and 4 Clinton-Bush cabal administrations. We didn't expect him to pull a rabbit out of a hat. Don't put words in our mouths. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |