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Message Subject The Pre-tribulation rapture theory is false.
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God's church, and elect, will only be saved after the tribulation, or time of trouble, at the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, when He comes in the clouds in His Father's glory, with His mighty angels.

Matthew 24:29-51
29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 Quoting: Photina


Nothing in your post shows its false

Do you believe God will leave his true followers to suffer with the evil ones who rejected him?

Makes no sense

Holy ones are already with Jesus in heaven (Zech. 14:5, Rev. 19:14)
The armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, follow Jesus out of heaven at His Second Coming (Rev.
19:14, Zech. 14:5, Col. 3:4). These are not angels because Rev. 19:8 tells us the fine linen is the
righteousness of the saints. In order to come out of heaven we first have to go in, indicating a
previous Rapture.

Kept from the hour of testing (Rev. 3:10)
Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth
(the Tribulation). Some wrongly believe that "keep" means to keep through, or protect through the
Tribulation. Suppose you approach a high voltage area with a sign that says, "Keep Out." Does
that mean you can enter and be protected? No, it means you are forbidden from entering the area.
But this verse also says He will keep us from the hour of testing. It is not just the testing, but the
time period. If a student is excused from a test, he still may have to sit in the class while others take
the test. But if he is excused from the hour of testing, he can go home. The Church will be called
home before the hour of testing.

Angels don't resurrect people when they gather them for judgment.
When the angels are sent forth to gather the elect at the Second Coming (Matt. 24:29-31), some
have wrongly interpreted this as the Rapture. There is a huge problem with this interpretation. If we
are resurrected at this time, why would we need angels to gather us? In the resurrection, we will be
like the angels (Matt. 22:30) and able to travel in the air at will. Obviously, these people who are
gathered are not resurrected, therefore it can't be the Rapture. No one would claim the wicked are
raptured at this time, yet Matthew 13:39-41, 49 says the angels will not only gather the elect, but
also the wicked. This gathering is not a resurrection.

Both wicked and righteous both can't be taken first.
First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew
13:30, 49 says the wicked are taken first and the righteous are left behind. These verses point to
two separate events, the Rapture and the Second Coming.

Jesus will receive us to Himself, and not us to receive Him (John 14:2-3).
Jesus said He would prepare a place for the Church in heaven, and then He would come again to
receive us to Himself. Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and then not take us
there? At the Rapture, He will come to receive us to Himself, "that where I am (heaven), there you
may be also." If the Rapture occurred at the same time as the Second Coming, we would go up to
the clouds and then immediately come back to earth. That would contradict John 14:2-3.

The separation of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-46)
If the Rapture occurred at the Second Coming, why would the sheep and the goats need to be
separated immediately after the Second Coming? A Rapture at the Second Coming would have
already separated the sheep from the goats. With a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, the many people
saved after the Rapture will need to be separated from the goats after the Second Coming.

Who will populate the Millennium?
If the Rapture occurs at the Second Coming and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will
be left to populate the Millennium? Only people in their natural (non-resurrected) bodies will be able
to have children (Matt. 22:30). With a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, the people saved after the Rapture
who are alive at the Second Coming will populate the earth during the Millennium

The 24 elders have their crowns.
After John is called up into heaven, he sees the 24 elders with their crowns (Rev. 4:4-10). We know
that Christians will receive their rewards (crowns) at the Rapture (2 Tim. 4:8, 1 Pet. 5:4). We will be
repaid at the resurrection of the righteous (Luke 14:14). The elders could not have received their
crowns unless the resurrection (Rapture) had taken place.

The Known Day and the Unknown Day
Concerning the return of Jesus, the Bible presents a day we can't know and a day we can know.
Matthew 25:13 says Jesus will return at an unknown time, while Revelation 12:6 says the Jews will
have to wait 1,260 days for the Lord to return. The 1,260 days begins when the Antichrist stands in
the Temple and declares himself to be God (Matt. 24:15-21, 2 Thess. 2:4). This event will take
place at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation (Dan 9:27). The Antichrist has authority to rule
for 42 months, which is 1,260 days (Rev. 13:4) and will be destroyed by Jesus at His Second
Coming (Rev. 19:20, 2 Thess. 2:8). The known and unknown days happen at different times,
meaning they are two separate events.

Two different pictures are painted.
In the Old Testament, two different pictures are painted of the Messiah—one suffering (Isa. 53:2-10,
Ps. 22:6-8, 11-18) and one reigning as King (Ps. 2:6-12, Zech. 14:9,16). As we look back on these
Scriptures, we can see that they predicted two separate comings of the Messiah—the 1st coming as
a suffering Messiah and the 2nd coming (still future) as a reigning King.
In the New Testament, we have another picture added. Again, we have two pictures painted which
don’t look the same. These two different descriptions of Jesus’ coming point to two separate events
we call the Rapture and the Second Coming.

Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn't mention a resurrection.
This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the Second Coming. Again, no
mention of a resurrection.


Revelation 19:11-21 doesn't mention a resurrection.
The Rapture is a resurrection of those "in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Doesn’t it strike you as odd
that Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the Second Coming of Christ, does not mention a
resurrection? The Rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds
of millions of Christians will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn't any mention of it here.
Don't you think it deserves at least one verse? The Rapture isn't mentioned because it doesn't
occur at the second coming.
 
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