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Photina
(OP) User ID: 15823204  Canada08/06/2018 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If in fact there was a sleep of the soul, Christ would have spent three days without being God, Quoting: Aristarc Jesus isn't God. WHAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT??????!!!!! (Pastor Paul Begley mode) **** To deny the divinity of Jesus is a sin against the Holy Spirit. Sin that has no forgiveness. This is even worse than mortalism, it is pure Gnosticism. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and GOD while there is time, my friend. You are denying that Jesus is the Son of God, and denying that the Son of God died on the cross. Look up the definition of Antichrist. You are also flat out denying the existence of God the Father. Last Edited by Photina on 08/06/2018 10:13 PM Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 15823204 Canada08/06/2018 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you're aware Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| DavidMichael42
User ID: 75706860  United States08/06/2018 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They "sleep" in the grave until the resurrection (2nd Coming). Quoting: Photina Most Christians have been deceived, and believe in the natural immortality of the human soul, a false, pagan doctrine that comes from the Roman Catholic Church, and not the Bible. John 11:11-14 11 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead," John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. In my fathers house are many mansions, if it were not so i would have told you so. i go to prepare a place for you and if i go to prepare a place for you i'll come again and receive you unto myself that where i am there ye may be also. |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 15823204 Canada08/06/2018 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They "sleep" in the grave until the resurrection (2nd Coming). Quoting: Photina Most Christians have been deceived, and believe in the natural immortality of the human soul, a false, pagan doctrine that comes from the Roman Catholic Church, and not the Bible. John 11:11-14 11 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead," John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. In my fathers house are many mansions, if it were not so i would have told you so. i go to prepare a place for you and if i go to prepare a place for you i'll come again and receive you unto myself that where i am there ye may be also. Solid verse; it doesn't say we're immortal or that there is an afterlife though Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 76028478 Canada08/07/2018 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ecc 3:9 After all, the same fate awaits human beings and animals alike. One dies just like the other. They are the same kind of creature. A human being is no better off than an animal, because life has no meaning for either. Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Two-Sixteen
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| Photina
(OP) User ID: 76028478 Canada08/07/2018 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How so Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Two-Sixteen
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| Photina
(OP) User ID: 76028478 Canada08/07/2018 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. Last Edited by Photina on 08/07/2018 06:59 AM Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Boes
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| Photina
(OP) User ID: 76028478 Canada08/07/2018 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proverbs 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice? Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Assyrian King
User ID: 76732249  Australia08/07/2018 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Quoting: infinitymindbox Hell is the grave/death. ATM, hell hasn't been created. Well to be technical, the lake of fire hasn't been created yet. Earth is hell as Satan is the god of this world. If we stay strong and loyal to God, we will be rewarded with Heaven. THE STRENGTH OF GOD'S HAND |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 76028478 Canada08/07/2018 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Quoting: infinitymindbox Hell is the grave/death. ATM, hell hasn't been created. Well to be technical, the lake of fire hasn't been created yet. Earth is hell as Satan is the god of this world. If we stay strong and loyal to God, we will be rewarded with Heaven. Why are you babbling? Hell is not the lake of fire. Last Edited by Photina on 08/07/2018 07:19 AM Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Assyrian King
User ID: 76732249 Australia08/07/2018 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Quoting: infinitymindbox Hell is the grave/death. ATM, hell hasn't been created. Well to be technical, the lake of fire hasn't been created yet. Earth is hell as Satan is the god of this world. If we stay strong and loyal to God, we will be rewarded with Heaven. Why are you babbling? Hell is not the lake of fire. Ok preacher, explain both THE STRENGTH OF GOD'S HAND |
| Grundig
User ID: 73228121 United States08/07/2018 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will." 2 Timothy 2:23-26 Last Edited by Grundig on 08/07/2018 10:20 AM ------------------------------------ "Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Act 4:11-12 |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 75760145 Canada08/07/2018 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATM, hell hasn't been created. Well to be technical, the lake of fire hasn't been created yet. Earth is hell as Satan is the god of this world. If we stay strong and loyal to God, we will be rewarded with Heaven. Why are you babbling? Hell is not the lake of fire. Ok preacher, explain both Hell is death itself. The lake of fire is the final judgement of the wicked resulting in the second and final death in which death/hell itself is destroyed. Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Grundig
User ID: 73228121 United States08/07/2018 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Assyrian King ATM, hell hasn't been created. Well to be technical, the lake of fire hasn't been created yet. Earth is hell as Satan is the god of this world. If we stay strong and loyal to God, we will be rewarded with Heaven. Why are you babbling? Hell is not the lake of fire. Ok preacher, explain both Hell is death itself. The lake of fire is the final judgement of the wicked resulting in the second and final death in which death/hell itself is destroyed. Photina, how can the dead awake to "shame and everlasting contempt"? "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” Daniel 12:2 . Last Edited by Grundig on 08/07/2018 11:31 AM ------------------------------------ "Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Act 4:11-12 |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 75760145 Canada08/07/2018 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell is death itself. The lake of fire is the final judgement of the wicked resulting in the second and final death in which death/hell itself is destroyed. Photina, how can the dead awake to "shame and everlasting contempt"? "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” Daniel 12:2 . There is a second resurrection for the wicked. Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
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| Photina
(OP) User ID: 75760145 Canada08/07/2018 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go on. Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States08/07/2018 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 23:39-43 New International Version (NIV) Quoting: Ida Man 39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]” 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Well, Jesus must have been lying to the thief because Jesus did not ascend to Heaven until many weeks later. Or that translation is wrong. Choose one. Or so 2000 years worth of gospel translations from the original Aramaic and Greek are ALL wrong. Want to back that up and give us an interpretation of said lines from the original Aramaic and Greek? Sounds like a question for ______ _____. From the pulpit commentary... "Non parem Paulo veniam require, Gratiam Petri neque posco, sed quam In crucis ligno dederis latroni Sedulus oro." This striking verse is engraved on the tomb of the great Copernicus, and alludes to this prayer and its answer. Paradise. This is the only instance we have of our Lord's using this well-known word. In the ordinary language used by the Jews, of the unseen world, it signifies the" Garden of Eden," or "Abraham's bosom;" it represented the locality where the souls of the righteous would find a home, after death separated soul and body. The New Testament writers, Luke and Paul and John, use it (Acts 2:31; 1 Corinthians 15:5; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7). To Luke and Paul, probably, this was a memory of the word spoken on the cross, which they alone record in their Gospel. It may have been told Luke by the Mother of sorrows herself. John, who uses it in his Revelation, doubtless heard it himself as he stood at the foot of the cross. Paradeisos is derived from the Persian word pardes, which signifies a park or garden. Last Edited by redhed6971 on 08/07/2018 10:05 PM “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 75760145 Canada08/07/2018 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 23:39-43 New International Version (NIV) Quoting: Ida Man 39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]” 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Well, Jesus must have been lying to the thief because Jesus did not ascend to Heaven until many weeks later. Or that translation is wrong. Choose one. Or so 2000 years worth of gospel translations from the original Aramaic and Greek are ALL wrong. Want to back that up and give us an interpretation of said lines from the original Aramaic and Greek? Sounds like a question for ______ _____. From the pulpit commentary... "Non parem Paulo veniam require, Gratiam Petri neque posco, sed quam In crucis ligno dederis latroni Sedulus oro." This striking verse is engraved on the tomb of the great Copernicus, and alludes to this prayer and its answer. Paradise. This is the only instance we have of our Lord's using this well-known word. In the ordinary language used by the Jews, of the unseen world, it signifies the" Garden of Eden," or "Abraham's bosom;" it represented the locality where the souls of the righteous would find a home, after death separated soul and body. The New Testament writers, Luke and Paul and John, use it (Acts 2:31; 1 Corinthians 15:5; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7). To Luke and Paul, probably, this was a memory of the word spoken on the cross, which they alone record in their Gospel. It may have been told Luke by the Mother of sorrows herself. John, who uses it in his Revelation, doubtless heard it himself as he stood at the foot of the cross. Paradeisos is derived from the Persian word pardes, which signifies a park or garden. The Torah doesn't teach that there is an afterlife or that we are naturally immortal. NT says only the Father is immortal. Last Edited by Photina on 08/07/2018 10:08 PM Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States08/07/2018 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 23:39-43 New International Version (NIV) Quoting: Ida Man 39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]” 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Well, Jesus must have been lying to the thief because Jesus did not ascend to Heaven until many weeks later. Or that translation is wrong. Choose one. Or so 2000 years worth of gospel translations from the original Aramaic and Greek are ALL wrong. Want to back that up and give us an interpretation of said lines from the original Aramaic and Greek? Sounds like a question for ______ _____. From the pulpit commentary... "Non parem Paulo veniam require, Gratiam Petri neque posco, sed quam In crucis ligno dederis latroni Sedulus oro." This striking verse is engraved on the tomb of the great Copernicus, and alludes to this prayer and its answer. Paradise. This is the only instance we have of our Lord's using this well-known word. In the ordinary language used by the Jews, of the unseen world, it signifies the" Garden of Eden," or "Abraham's bosom;" it represented the locality where the souls of the righteous would find a home, after death separated soul and body. The New Testament writers, Luke and Paul and John, use it (Acts 2:31; 1 Corinthians 15:5; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7). To Luke and Paul, probably, this was a memory of the word spoken on the cross, which they alone record in their Gospel. It may have been told Luke by the Mother of sorrows herself. John, who uses it in his Revelation, doubtless heard it himself as he stood at the foot of the cross. Paradeisos is derived from the Persian word pardes, which signifies a park or garden. The Torah doesn't teach that there is an afterlife or that we are naturally immortal. The Jews still do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the one true Savior either. “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 75760145 Canada08/07/2018 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photina Well, Jesus must have been lying to the thief because Jesus did not ascend to Heaven until many weeks later. Or that translation is wrong. Choose one. Or so 2000 years worth of gospel translations from the original Aramaic and Greek are ALL wrong. Want to back that up and give us an interpretation of said lines from the original Aramaic and Greek? Sounds like a question for ______ _____. From the pulpit commentary... "Non parem Paulo veniam require, Gratiam Petri neque posco, sed quam In crucis ligno dederis latroni Sedulus oro." This striking verse is engraved on the tomb of the great Copernicus, and alludes to this prayer and its answer. Paradise. This is the only instance we have of our Lord's using this well-known word. In the ordinary language used by the Jews, of the unseen world, it signifies the" Garden of Eden," or "Abraham's bosom;" it represented the locality where the souls of the righteous would find a home, after death separated soul and body. The New Testament writers, Luke and Paul and John, use it (Acts 2:31; 1 Corinthians 15:5; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7). To Luke and Paul, probably, this was a memory of the word spoken on the cross, which they alone record in their Gospel. It may have been told Luke by the Mother of sorrows herself. John, who uses it in his Revelation, doubtless heard it himself as he stood at the foot of the cross. Paradeisos is derived from the Persian word pardes, which signifies a park or garden. The Torah doesn't teach that there is an afterlife or that we are naturally immortal. The Jews still do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the one true Savior either. Jesus WAS a Torah following Hebrew. Jesus also referred to death as a sleep and taught the resurrection. He didn't teach the pagan myth that we are immortal spirits trapped in a body, continue living in spirit form after death and knowing more than the living. The Torah teaches that the dead "know nothing". Last Edited by Photina on 08/07/2018 10:11 PM Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States08/07/2018 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New International Version Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." New Living Translation And Jesus replied, "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." English Standard Version And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Berean Study Bible And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” Berean Literal Bible And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise." New American Standard Bible And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise." King James Bible And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Christian Standard Bible And he said to him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Contemporary English Version Jesus replied, "I promise that today you will be with me in paradise." Good News Translation Jesus said to him, "I promise you that today you will be in Paradise with me." Holman Christian Standard Bible And He said to him, "I assure you: Today you will be with Me in paradise." International Standard Version Jesus told him, "I tell you with certainty, today you will be with me in Paradise." “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
| Photina
(OP) User ID: 75760145 Canada08/07/2018 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Punctuation isn't god breathed, boyo Also Isaiah 8:20 (KJV) 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Last Edited by Photina on 08/07/2018 10:13 PM Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
| Ozric
User ID: 76792171 United States08/07/2018 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wrote a Christian fiction book revolving around eschatology. I studied the issue in depth for years while writing the book. Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes I agree with you 100% OP. Furthermore, there is no place called "Hell" where condemned people go to await the judgment. They will be resurrected at the last day and cast into the Lake of Fire and be destroyed from the presence of the Lord forever (no eternal torment.) I will not respond to questions about my statements. It wears out my soul to argue about these issues. For some reason, it's heretical to even suggest such a thing in our modern church culture. Everyone needs a season of rest.. times that try a man. One of the most helpful lessons I ever learned was that no matter how much more I put into this, God still wins in the end and my contribution in the scheme of things while not perhaps monumental are yet still incomprehensible and incomparable for the levels of awesome that is to come...doesnt mean it all doesnt matter it just means its ok to take a breath and bask in the trust... I do exist, I'm pretty sure :) |
| Confederate
User ID: 74938138 United States08/07/2018 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 23:39-43 New International Version (NIV) Quoting: Ida Man 39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]” 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Well, Jesus must have been lying to the thief because Jesus did not ascend to Heaven until many weeks later. Or that translation is wrong. Choose one. Ever hear of the Bosom of Abraham? That is where both Christ and the thief went after death. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
