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One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” Ephesians 4:4-6

“And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” John 17:3

1 Corinthians 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;

John 20:17 17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Ephesians 1:17 ...'That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.'

The trinity is a false image of the true God . YHWH (the Father) is alone God.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Anything apart from a circular reasoning? I mean something that would prove it?
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'This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Matt 15:8-9

“truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.” "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" 1 John 1:3, 1 Timothy 2:5

2 John 1:3 ...'Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.'

22Believe Me, woman," Jesus replied, "a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
23But a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him.
John 4:21,23

John 17:7-8 ...'Now they have known that all things whatsoever you have given me are of you. For I have given unto them the words which you gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from you, and they have believed that you did send me.'

Romans 8:3 ...'God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.'

The Trinity doctrine is an Antichrist doctrine because it teaches that Christ is a self-existent, eternal God ALONGSIDE the Father, and not 'begotten' FROM the Father as a true Son.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Right, yada yada yada. First prove that the true god and his messenger is not somebody else(like alah and mohamed for example), but without circular reasoning, meaning, without bible quotes.
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Yes. You are what you have been told, what you have learned. Some people expand beyond their programming and become "Free thinkers" they are more rare. Some programming has been developed for thousands of years and is highly refined. Most programming serves an agenda, some subtle some not so much. What you think you know and what you think is pretty much what you are.
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John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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" The God of Jesus is the only true God."

There is a Creator God …which makes us all the Daughters and sons of GOD!!
The indigenous call Us,.. the Children of Mother Earth

Remember that ALL LIFE is Precious…so start looking at all those GODS around YOU... Brutus...

Cheers, Uncle Hexy
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" The God of Jesus is the only true God."

There is a Creator God …which makes us all the Daughters and sons of GOD!!
The indigenous call Us,.. the Children of Mother Earth

Remember that ALL LIFE is Precious…so start looking at all those GODS around YOU... Brutus...

Cheers, Uncle Hexy
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Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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If I am about Pantheism ..then I believe what my First Nations' Sisters and Brothers do… I believe in the Sisters and Brothers and Children of GOD.

I have to say Pho…I do feel like the Peter Pan Man sometimes …the problem is…I live with a Drunkin' Wendylolsign
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“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:5

"The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Upon it are based all the other teachings of the church..." Handbook for Today's Catholic, p. 11.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” Ephesians 4:4-6

“And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” John 17:3

1 Corinthians 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;

John 20:17 17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Ephesians 1:17 ...'That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.'

The trinity is a false image of the true God . YHWH (the Father) is alone God.
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All three are bastards that I hate.

Have all the power in the universe and they keep us down in this shithole?

Lol, God is a piece of work alright.
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Right, yada yada yada. First prove that the true god and his messenger is not somebody else(like alah and mohamed for example), but without circular reasoning, meaning, without bible quotes.
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THIS
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Yahweh AKA Allah is NOT God. He is a malicious, animalistic, false "god".

But I know you won't believe me, you're already corrupted. Christ is very forgiving though, so you're probably fine...
I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3

We’re all in the same game; just different levels
Dealing with the same hell; just different devils
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Christ referred to God as "His Father" instead of Yahweh, because Yahweh is an impostor.

And who killed Christ? The chosen people of G-d, who worshipped Yahweh. Who do you think ordered the chosen people of G-d to murder Christ?! Take a guess.
I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3

We’re all in the same game; just different levels
Dealing with the same hell; just different devils
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J*** are not the chosen people of God, GLP is full of propaganda.
I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3

We’re all in the same game; just different levels
Dealing with the same hell; just different devils
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Nimrod, Samiramas, Tammuz
The original trinity, and it has nothing to do with Holiness.

The "Holy Trinity" is a Roman Catholic lie based on the above

YHWH is Almighty God
Yahshua bin Yoseph is the Messiah
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Nimrod, Samiramas, Tammuz
The original trinity, and it has nothing to do with Holiness.

The "Holy Trinity" is a Roman Catholic lie based on the above

YHWH is Almighty God
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hesright
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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“The Alexandria catechetical school, which revered Clement of Alexandria and Origen, the greatest theologian of the Greek Church, as its heads, applied the allegorical method to the explanation of Scripture. Its thought was influenced by Plato: its strong point was [pagan] theological speculations. Athanasius and the three Cappadocians [the men whose Trinitarian views were adopted by the Catholic Church at the Councils of Nicaea and Constantinople] had been included among its members.” — (Hubert Jedin, Ecumenical Councils of the Catholic Church: an Historical Outline, 1960, p. 28)

The three divisions which were plucked up were the Heruli in 493, the Vandals in 534, and the Ostrogoths in 538 A.D. Justinian, the emperor, whose seat was at Constantinople, working through the general Belisarius, was the power which overthrew the three kingdoms represented by the three horns, and the reason for their overthrow was their adherence to Arianism in opposition to the orthodox Catholic faith. The details of the overthrow, and the religious controversy which was the root of the trouble, are fully given by Gibbon in the “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,” — (S.N. Haskell, The Story of Daniel the Prophet, p. 117, 1908) Further, “The contest between Arianism and the orthodox Catholicism was the means of enthroning the papacy.” — (lbid, p. 266)

Probably more Christians were slaughtered by Christians in these two years (342-3) than by all the persecutions of Christians by pagans in the history of Rome.” — (The Story of Civilization, Vol. 4: The Age of Faith, 1950, p. 8). “...more Christians died for their faith at the hands of fellow Christians than had died before in all the persecutions.” Ramsay MacMullen

“During the middle decades of this century, from 340 to 380, the history of doctrine looks more like the history of court and church intrigues and social unrest ... The central doctrines hammered out in this period often appear to have been put through by intrigue or mob violence rather than by the common consent of Christendom led by the Holy Spirit.” (Heresies: Heresy and Orthodoxy in the History of the Church, 2003, p. 119)

"In 538 A.D, the Arian believers were completely wiped out by the Catholic Church, leaving the Papacy as the sole “Corrector of heretics.” [Heretic = Greek hairetikós (able to choose) ] Anyone opposing the Catholic teaching of the trinity was exterminated, for “The mystery of the trinity is the central doctrine of the Catholic faith. Upon it are based all the other teachings of the church.” — (Handbook for Today's Catholic, p. 11)

Barnabas 4:5
In like manner Daniel speaketh concerning the same; And I saw the
forth beast to be wicked and strong and more intractable than all
the beasts of the earth, and how there arose from him ten horns,
and from these a little horn and excrescence, and how that it
abased under one three of the great horns.

Daniel 7:20-21
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things..
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Revelation 13:7
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Keep your head up, OP.
These things bring legions en masse to combat you.
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Keep your head up, OP.
These things bring legions en masse to combat you.
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hf I've been here for a while. I know.
Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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The Messiah is part of the Trinity OP. Fifth Basis—The Mystery of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, who entered upon his mission as the Redeemer from the day Melchizedek met Abram returning from the slaughter of the kings. This is the revelation of the Apostle Paul. Know that Melchizedek was also. The Second and Third Persons of the Trinity manifested as Persons here is Aggregate Matter.

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Bottom line, if you deny the trinity you aren't a Christian. You're more like a Mormon or some other heretical sect. This is what a Christian believes:

The Nicene Creed

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Bottom line, if you deny the trinity you aren't a Christian. You're more like a Mormon or some other heretical sect. This is what a Christian believes:

The Nicene Creed

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies.
Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV
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Fake Christians and polytheistic trinity doctrine tend to go hand-in-hand.

Christianity is monotheism, and so is Judiasm ...
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GLP Effect…" Bottom line, if you deny the trinity you aren't a Christian"

That's just a bunch of Horse Shit and Hogwash GLPer.

Christians go by Christian VALUES and they are…

1) Hard Working
2) Sacrificing ( Service to OTHERS more and before service to SELF)
3) Humble
4) Honest and Truthful

If You DO NOT go by all these VALUES …I would categorize You to be a WANNA BE
CHRISTIAN!

GLP EFFECT..what do they mean by CHRIST anyway??…Please elaborate and give a clear definition.
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Fake Christians and polytheistic trinity doctrine tend to go hand-in-hand.

Christianity is monotheism, and so is Judiasm ...
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That sounds directed at many, so I shall take up the rebuttal for all of them: Let it be thoroughly understood from the beginning that one man cannot convince another of either right or wrong; but if a man be convinced, it is by his own investigation of that which is placed before him. Let each man convince himself, for it is his own interest that is at stake.

First Basis—The Holy Trinity.—The triune character of the Creator is self-evident; that is, three separate Persons in One. These are, first, the Power which conceives; second, the Power which gives or signifies assent, as the Word or Command; third, the Power which carries out or performs the thought signified or expressed. Each equal, the one with the other; for the Power which conceives would not be a Power if each conception was accomplished without assent. The Word would be no Power without the thought and action. The Power which acts would be no Power without the thought and command; therefore it follows that these three are equal, the one with the other, and combine into the one Infinite Majesty, perfect and supreme in all his attributes, and above all other powers; yet each is separate and distinct, the one from the other. They possess the attribute of manifesting themselves separately and distinctly as Persons, and it follows that the Power which creates matter can invest itself in it, endow it with life and become visible clothed with it. It also follows that no inharmonious relation can exist between the three; that they all work together; and that without the three was nothing made that was made.

Now, go in peace and read my site, if you wish to learn more. You do not have to agree with anything there at all. It is your choice, right?

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This guy has some really good teachings on the Old Testament evil god. His videos are interesting and thought provoking.

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Fake Christians and polytheistic trinity doctrine tend to go hand-in-hand.

Christianity is monotheism, and so is Judiasm ...
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That sounds directed at many, so I shall take up the rebuttal for all of them: Let it be thoroughly understood from the beginning that one man cannot convince another of either right or wrong; but if a man be convinced, it is by his own investigation of that which is placed before him. Let each man convince himself, for it is his own interest that is at stake.

First Basis—The Holy Trinity.—The triune character of the Creator is self-evident; that is, three separate Persons in One. These are, first, the Power which conceives; second, the Power which gives or signifies assent, as the Word or Command; third, the Power which carries out or performs the thought signified or expressed. Each equal, the one with the other; for the Power which conceives would not be a Power if each conception was accomplished without assent. The Word would be no Power without the thought and action. The Power which acts would be no Power without the thought and command; therefore it follows that these three are equal, the one with the other, and combine into the one Infinite Majesty, perfect and supreme in all his attributes, and above all other powers; yet each is separate and distinct, the one from the other. They possess the attribute of manifesting themselves separately and distinctly as Persons, and it follows that the Power which creates matter can invest itself in it, endow it with life and become visible clothed with it. It also follows that no inharmonious relation can exist between the three; that they all work together; and that without the three was nothing made that was made.

Now, go in peace and read my site, if you wish to learn more. You do not have to agree with anything there at all. It is your choice, right?

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IF you know anything about scripture...what Jesus ACTUALLY said, you will see that He is NOT EQUAL to the Father.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

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More to think about. How Can Jesus be God Considering the Following?

If Jesus had “always” existed alongside the Father as the Trinity doctrine claims, then how could God have given life to His Son as He would have always had life. But Scripture reveals this is impossible. “For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the Son to have life in himself.” John 5:26

26 For as the Father hath life in himself;
so hath he given to the Son to have life in
himself;


How could Jesus have died when Scripture says God cannot die (1 Timothy 6:15-16). The Bible does not say that only his “human nature” died, it says that Jesus died, which would include all of Him.

Jesus said “All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.” Matthew 28:18. And John wrote “The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.” John 3:35. Note that “all authority” and “all power” is “given” to the Son! If the Son is God as the Father is God, and the Son is almighty as the Father is, then how can the Son be “given” anything if He is God? How can God be “given” that which He has always possessed? God does not depend on anyone or anything so that it has to be “given” to Him. But we do see that Jesus had to be “given” all things into His hand.

How can Jesus be “God” and have a “God” at the same time? “I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.” John 20:17
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The Holy Spirit is either sent by Jehovah Himself or at Jesus' request. "He" too does NOTHING but the Father's Will.

There's no reason to be confused about the Holy Spirit. "He" is like a messenger / helper sent by either the Father Himself or by Jesus, and it does specific tasks with individuals or small groups. See these verses.

John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 15:26 "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,

John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

I don't understand why so many can't grasp this. This is all easily seen in the Bible.
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Fake Christians and polytheistic trinity doctrine tend to go hand-in-hand.

Christianity is monotheism, and so is Judiasm ...
 Quoting: Akkusu


That sounds directed at many, so I shall take up the rebuttal for all of them: Let it be thoroughly understood from the beginning that one man cannot convince another of either right or wrong; but if a man be convinced, it is by his own investigation of that which is placed before him. Let each man convince himself, for it is his own interest that is at stake.

First Basis—The Holy Trinity.—The triune character of the Creator is self-evident; that is, three separate Persons in One. These are, first, the Power which conceives; second, the Power which gives or signifies assent, as the Word or Command; third, the Power which carries out or performs the thought signified or expressed. Each equal, the one with the other; for the Power which conceives would not be a Power if each conception was accomplished without assent. The Word would be no Power without the thought and action. The Power which acts would be no Power without the thought and command; therefore it follows that these three are equal, the one with the other, and combine into the one Infinite Majesty, perfect and supreme in all his attributes, and above all other powers; yet each is separate and distinct, the one from the other. They possess the attribute of manifesting themselves separately and distinctly as Persons, and it follows that the Power which creates matter can invest itself in it, endow it with life and become visible clothed with it. It also follows that no inharmonious relation can exist between the three; that they all work together; and that without the three was nothing made that was made.

Now, go in peace and read my site, if you wish to learn more. You do not have to agree with anything there at all. It is your choice, right?

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If you read the thread, OP is a denier of Christ's deity, as is lordsservant and others.

No reason to defend them, they are called cultists for a reason. They are likely mormons or JWs.
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James 2:19

19 You believe that there is one God. Good!
Even the demons believe that—and shudder.



But they'll still somehow bend what's written into a working theory for the Trinity, and the paganism associated with it

Spoiler alert, Trinity worshippers:

blueletterbible.com
biblehub, biblegateway, etc

Pick any of them. Do a word search for "Trinity", or even "Triune" and tell us your results?

Go ahead, search every english version you can find.
It won't change a thing.The "Holy Trinity" doctrine preached for ages is mysteriously absent from the word.

So again, there is NO "TRINITY", no "TRIUNE" God, or any of that nonsense.

Read James 2:19 again.
The Word doesn't contridict itself.
If you're somehow managing to split the number 1 into three portions, you're DOING IT WRONG.
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James 2:19

19 You believe that there is one God. Good!
Even the demons believe that—and shudder.



But they'll still somehow bend what's written into a working theory for the Trinity, and the paganism associated with it

Spoiler alert, Trinity worshippers:

blueletterbible.com
biblehub, biblegateway, etc

Pick any of them. Do a word search for "Trinity", or even "Triune" and tell us your results?

Go ahead, search every english version you can find.
It won't change a thing.The "Holy Trinity" doctrine preached for ages is mysteriously absent from the word.

So again, there is NO "TRINITY", no "TRIUNE" God, or any of that nonsense.

Read James 2:19 again.
The Word doesn't contridict itself.
If you're somehow managing to split the number 1 into three portions, you're DOING IT WRONG.
 Quoting: Akkusu


1 John 5:7

Do you really think your average Joe Schmo could live a sinless life, then be raised from the dead?

That is heresy
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