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Professor under fire for saying the Holocaust and moon landing were a hoax, saying Irish were Americas first slaves

 
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Before the Civil War, slaves and indentured servants were considered personal property, and they or their descendants could be sold or inherited like any other personalty. Like other property, human chattel was governed largely by laws of individual states. Generally, these laws concerning indentured servants and slaves did not differentiate between the sexes. Some, however, addressed only women.
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Us Irish are more resilient than cockroaches. Lulz they will never get rid of us
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If you can't figure out that 'the America's' included most of North America and the islands back in the day, you are not much of a threat really. But hey...sip another Jameson's.
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You are a dumb shit. The caribeen has nothing to do with America. Deal with it
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It was ALL called the Americas until the American War for Independence. Duh. And here you go...
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Haha no it wasnt you fool. Do you even know where the Caribbean is?
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If you can't figure out that 'the America's' included most of North America and the islands back in the day, you are not much of a threat really. But hey...sip another Jameson's.
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You are a dumb shit. The caribeen has nothing to do with America. Deal with it
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It was ALL called the Americas until the American War for Independence. Duh. And here you go...
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Haha no it wasnt you fool. Do you even know where the Caribbean is?
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Yes I know where the Caribbean is..North America including the islands were known as the America's. Until it split up into different countries. But hey, I guess history eludes you, stick to the Tuatha De Dannan, and let those of us over here ponder our past.
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Before the Civil War, slaves and indentured servants were considered personal property, and they or their descendants could be sold or inherited like any other personalty. Like other property, human chattel was governed largely by laws of individual states. Generally, these laws concerning indentured servants and slaves did not differentiate between the sexes. Some, however, addressed only women.
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Slaves were property without any rights. Indentured servants had rights and only worked to pay off contracts. Why is that so hard to understand?
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You are a dumb shit. The caribeen has nothing to do with America. Deal with it
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It was ALL called the Americas until the American War for Independence. Duh. And here you go...
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 Quoting: The Pastor


Haha no it wasnt you fool. Do you even know where the Caribbean is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76677281


Yes I know where the Caribbean is..North America including the islands were known as the America's. Until it split up into different countries. But hey, I guess history eludes you, stick to the Tuatha De Dannan, and let those of us over here ponder our past.
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Prove it
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Big difference between North America and the Caribbean islands. Will ya bloody get real?
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it says on wikipedia that indentured servant is unfree labor and unfree labor is slavery! war is peace freedom is slavery ignornace is strenght!

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Us Irish are more resilient than cockroaches. Lulz they will never get rid of us
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This is actually true. The Irish who survived the multitude of genocidal campaigns of the British, are literally designed to take a beating and keep going.

The Irish are particularly designed to survive famine, being the only population that is 100% lactose persistent and also more effective at storing iron (though some do this too effectively and need to watch their iron intake now that we live in times of plenty).
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Re: Professor under fire for saying the Holocaust and moon landing were a hoax, saying Irish were Americas first slaves
Big difference between North America and the Caribbean islands. Will ya bloody get real?
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Fer Fox Lake...the entirety of the New World was colloquially referred to as THE AMERICAS and which part of my quote above do you not understand? It's from the Library of Congress not fecking wikipedia. Nor...snort, gurgle, spray wine on my screen...PBS...
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it says on wikipedia that indentured servant is unfree labor and unfree labor is slavery! war is peace freedom is slavery ignornace is strenght!

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They were paying off debts/contracts. Thats why why they worked. At the end of contract, they went free unlike slaves. Fact!
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Before the Civil War, slaves and indentured servants were considered personal property, and they or their descendants could be sold or inherited like any other personalty. Like other property, human chattel was governed largely by laws of individual states. Generally, these laws concerning indentured servants and slaves did not differentiate between the sexes. Some, however, addressed only women.
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Slaves were property without any rights. Indentured servants had rights and only worked to pay off contracts. Why is that so hard to understand?
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If you can bhe sold or inherited you are a slave no matter what the fecking nomenclature you decide to use. You are delusional and not worthy of conversing with anymore.
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Us Irish are more resilient than cockroaches. Lulz they will never get rid of us
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This is actually true. The Irish who survived the multitude of genocidal campaigns of the British, are literally designed to take a beating and keep going.

The Irish are particularly designed to survive famine, being the only population that is 100% lactose persistent and also more effective at storing iron (though some do this too effectively and need to watch their iron intake now that we live in times of plenty).
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Good info dude!
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Re: Professor under fire for saying the Holocaust and moon landing were a hoax, saying Irish were Americas first slaves
The definition matters.. ya cant have it one way.. it can be a bit ambiguous , one type is bondage and another voluntary and we cannot distinguish the difference in all situations so demonizing all slavery is disingenuous...


Slavery
SLA'VERY, noun

1. Bondage; the state of entire subjection of one person to the will of another. slavery is the obligation to labor for the benefit of the master, without the contract of consent of the servant. slavery may proceed from crimes, from captivity or from debt. slavery is also voluntary or involuntary; voluntary, when a person sells or yields his own person to the absolute command of another; involuntary, when he is placed under the absolute power of another without his own consent. slavery no longer exists in Great Britain, not in the northern states of America.

2. The offices of a slave; drudgery.
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Indentured servitude was not often voluntary.

You need to understand that before Anthony Johnson (a black man) won his case against John Casor (also a black man), which turned Casor from an indentured servant into a chattel slave, that there was no chattel slavery in the colonies.

Previously, the only type of slavery allowed was indentured servitude, but it was still slavery, and it was not always entered into voluntarily.

People were still sold against their will into indentured servitude. The only difference was that they had the hope of being released some day if they survived it.
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I never said there wasn't evil or abuse, but we have definitions for a reason .. Indentured servitude was real and generally ya dont hear about the honorable scenarios cause no one bitches about them because all parties are in agreement.
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Before the Civil War, slaves and indentured servants were considered personal property, and they or their descendants could be sold or inherited like any other personalty. Like other property, human chattel was governed largely by laws of individual states. Generally, these laws concerning indentured servants and slaves did not differentiate between the sexes. Some, however, addressed only women.
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Slaves were property without any rights. Indentured servants had rights and only worked to pay off contracts. Why is that so hard to understand?
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If you can bhe sold or inherited you are a slave no matter what the fecking nomenclature you decide to use. You are delusional and not worthy of conversing with anymore.
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You are a fuck8ng annoying troll. Piss off
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Before the Civil War, slaves and indentured servants were considered personal property, and they or their descendants could be sold or inherited like any other personalty. Like other property, human chattel was governed largely by laws of individual states. Generally, these laws concerning indentured servants and slaves did not differentiate between the sexes. Some, however, addressed only women.
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Slaves were property without any rights. Indentured servants had rights and only worked to pay off contracts. Why is that so hard to understand?
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If you can bhe sold or inherited you are a slave no matter what the fecking nomenclature you decide to use. You are delusional and not worthy of conversing with anymore.
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Indentured servants couldnt be sold/inherited like slaves were. There is a difference. Deal with it.
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If you can't figure out that 'the America's' included most of North America and the islands back in the day, you are not much of a threat really. But hey...sip another Jameson's.
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You are a dumb shit. The caribeen has nothing to do with America. Deal with it
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It was ALL called the Americas until the American War for Independence. Duh. And here you go...
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Haha no it wasnt you fool. Do you even know where the Caribbean is?
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I know where it is. I live in Panama, and part of Panama is considered Caribbean.
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The pastor, interesting handle. Why do you have such a problem with there being a difference?
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You are a dumb shit. The caribeen has nothing to do with America. Deal with it
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It was ALL called the Americas until the American War for Independence. Duh. And here you go...
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Haha no it wasnt you fool. Do you even know where the Caribbean is?
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I know where it is. I live in Panama, and part of Panama is considered Caribbean.
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I would start asking you questions about panama because it sounds like an interesting place but im wrecked and going to bed so night all. Interesting discussions. No hard feelings to any trolls. Gn
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The media also published the six million story before WWII ever happened in the newyork times also. The diary of Anne Frank was written after WWII because it is written with a ball point pen and according to the new release of JFK papers Hitler was alive in Argentina in the mid1950s. I agree the moon landing was a hoax oops by mandala there are now six fake moon landings now. Blacks all over Africa enslave other blacks to this very day and the blacks who were sold to muslims were castrated thus no generations of descendents to populate entire cities. Israel still has legal slavery and imports thousands who die without descendents very much not like America. The numbers of Israel population does not match up with the numbers of slaves imported into Israel either... they are not being counted or they are already dead. Only 10% of Israel is actually semetic peoples but 100% of Palestinians are actually semetic but anti sementism doesn't apply to them right? I am pretty sure murdering them is actually antisemetic but not in the eyes of "da law". WHY? For the same reason the Irish were treated so cruelly and their deaths also were not counted in the population statistics either. The wickedness was allowed by law then and now.

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I've seen that before, and it's absolutely shocking.

I'm surprised You Tube has not removed it.
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I am home now and good catch, that was my mistake. That should have read 3.5 million Soviet POWs murdered by Germany. Amazingly most of them, 2.8 million Red Army soldiers who surrendered were murdered in just the first 8 months after the invasion of the Soviet Union. Young men who had surrendered were killed.
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Germans weren't treated any better by the Soviets.

Arrogant Yank.
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Wrong as usual. Many German POWs died, however 2.8 million Soviet POWs dead in just 8 months was death on a scale never seen before or since.
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Many? 95% of Germans captured in Stalingrad died.

Nothing wrong at all, about what I said.

Arrogant yank.
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2.8 million Red Army soldiers who surrendered died between June 1941 and February 1042. By the time of Stalingrad the average German soldier knew their would be hell to pay when things started to turn. The total number of Axis troops captured at Stalingrad was less than 10% of the Red Army POWs who were murdered in the first 8 months Operation Barbarossa.

The Eastern Front was a brutal front and the Germans and Soviets treated each other badly, but the scale of murder of civilians and POWs by Germany was staggering.
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No, I'm Zetetic. Now go look that up. I listen to all and follow none, knowing that if I was not there, I do not know what happened. I do not presume knowledge because a book was written about something. That plus I'm probably the only one who sat at a kitchen table (I was very young) with my adopted great-grandfather with a blue tattoo. He said it 'vas a vork kamp'.
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Lancifer! Hey buddy, you are back under another name I see. And still calling yourself a Zetetic

You never really told us the story about your great-grandfather was taken as a slave by Germany. Didn't he resent being taken from his family and the place he grew up and made a slave in one of the Nazi work camps? Did he talk about the horrible conditions and deaths he witnessed during his time as a slave to the Nazis?
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He only spoke Polish and Yiddish, and all he really said was 'it vas a vork kamp' and 'lance eat your jello'.
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Interesting. So what crossed your mind when you realized your great grandfather talking about a "vork kamp" was really the story of the time in his life when he was targeted for being a Jw, kidnapped by the Nazis, tattooed, and placed in a slave labor camp? It had to be quite a traumatic experience for him. And probably a change in you family tree with most of his family likely killed. Too bad you weren't able to communicate and get the full story.
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Re: Professor under fire for saying the Holocaust and moon landing were a hoax, saying Irish were Americas first slaves
This professor is largely correct!

The holocost happened, but not like we are taught and the Nazis didn’t kill 6 million zews. It’s just preposterous.

Anyone who disagrees should do some simple research. “Judea Declares War On Germany” is a fantastic British documentary on this.

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Sorry dude, but you have no clue what you are talking about. There is a wealth of evidence of the Holocaust including how, when and where these people were killed. And the death toll is really 10-12 million when we include the 2 million mostly Catholic Polish civilians, 3.5 million British POWs, Gypsies, Serbs, etc.
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Educated Redneck? LOL Red (((Bell-end))) more like.
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Germans weren't treated any better by the Soviets.

Arrogant Yank.
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Wrong as usual. Many German POWs died, however 2.8 million Soviet POWs dead in just 8 months was death on a scale never seen before or since.
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Many? 95% of Germans captured in Stalingrad died.

Nothing wrong at all, about what I said.

Arrogant yank.
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2.8 million Red Army soldiers who surrendered died between June 1941 and February 1042. By the time of Stalingrad the average German soldier knew their would be hell to pay when things started to turn. The total number of Axis troops captured at Stalingrad was less than 10% of the Red Army POWs who were murdered in the first 8 months Operation Barbarossa.

The Eastern Front was a brutal front and the Germans and Soviets treated each other badly, but the scale of murder of civilians and POWs by Germany was staggering.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck


Ahh, the neighborhood Zionist/British/Anglo Saxon supremacist shill has popped in.

After Stalin genocided most of the Soviet German's, did you honestly think Germany was going to show mercy to the Russians?

Stalin and the Bolsheviks, by that point in time, had murdered over one million Volga/Russian/Soviet ethnic Germans.

Your a devil. You try and paint a picture of the "evil Germans" to the best of your ability, without presenting a fair picture why. Once the the rationale" is given for why the Germans did what they did, like many Rabbi have openly admitted, all sympathy for the "victims", pretty much vanishes.

Which is why the Allied powers for the last 70 years have went to such great lengths, to prevent that knowledge form becoming mainstream.

It doesn't excuse what was done, but explains it in a way that totally destroys the narrative, sick individuals like yourself, try to create.
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A third explanation for why "Educated Redneck" does what it does, is that "Educated Redneck", is a NAZI.

It may sound counter intuitive, but, hear me out.

He goes to such extreme lengths to lie about WW2 and the NAZI crimes, that it forces anyone with a shred of a conscience to defend the NAZI's.


That is why I truly despise that person, as he routinely forces me to defend a group/ideology, I simply do not care for. Aside for their stupidity, evil treatment of the disabled; as a Right Wing Christian-ish, I know, if I was alive back then, I would be among the first targeted*.

I wouldn't even of gotten to go the camps, but would of gotten a bullet to the back of the head.

So yeah, I thoroughly dislike that SOB.
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The United States should have fought on the side of Hitler against Russia and probably would have had it not been for the obscene strategic alliance between communist Russia and Captialist Britain. A match made in hell be the guess whos.
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A New Jersey student is blowing the whistle on her sociology professor for allegedly spouting anti-Semitic remarks and conspiracy theories in class — including that the moon landings were faked.

Benny Koval was appalled by Clyde Magarelli’s rambling lectures during his “Social Problems” course this past semester at William Paterson University.


“It was very unfortunate, but most of all it was a waste of my time and money,” the 18-year-old, who just wrapped up her freshman year, told NorthJersey.com. “It was incredibly frustrating going to a public university for a taxpayer-funded education and I’m learning about how the moon landing was faked.”

Koval posted a series of short videos on Twitter that allegedly show Magarelli’s questionable ideologies.

“We can’t land on it and get back. We’ve never landed on it, you didn’t know that?” he says in one clip.

Koval, who is Jewish, reported the professor’s comments to the head of the Sociology Department and said she was told another student filed a complaint last year.


Magarelli also believes that the Irish were the first slaves in America.
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There is a line about those who stand up and speak the truth during a time of great deceitfulness. I can't remember it though.
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In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act
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Oh look an 18 year old acting narcissistic and knowingly higher than thou
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You must not have been paying attention; did you miss the "Koval" part?

Yes, this is EXACTLY what ((THEY)) do when not swastika-ing things and blaming others while screaming "Anti-Antisemitism" .

This is an old game, you should have caught on by now...
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The United States should have fought on the side of Hitler against Russia and probably would have had it not been for the obscene strategic alliance between communist Russia and Captialist Britain. A match made in hell be the guess whos.
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Britain and the Soviet Union on the same side was definitely an odd mix. Most of the world was against the spread of communism and expected the next war to be against the Soviet Union to stop the spread of communism. But then Hitler and the Nazis seized power in Germany and quickly made it a fascist Police State where the people had no rights. Then Hitler and the Nazis started invading their neighboring countries. Germany invaded Czechoslovakia (in violation of the agreement Hitler made with Chamberlain just 6 months earlier), Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Yugoslavia and Greece before finally attacking the Soviet Union.

And that is what formed the odd alliance between Capitalism and Communism, they were forced to fight together against anti-freedom National Socialism which had overrun all of Western Europe.

The funny thing is that it was Adolf Hitler that declared war on the United States. Again it was unlikely that the United States would side with such a freedom crushing fascist dictatorship who had invaded and conquered most of Europe. Still on December 11, 1941 after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor Adolf Hitler declared war on the United States. The war was turning against Germany, the Wehrmacht had just been defeated at the Battle of Moscow, and the US was focused on Japan. Still Adolf Hitler declared war on the US just to make sure the US joined the war in Europe as soon as possible.
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Indentured servants, both black and white, arrived in Jamestown.

The very first chattel slave in Jamestown was a black man named John Casor, and his owner was also a black man named Anthony Johnson. It was Anthony Johnson who established chattel slavery on American soil among the colonists.

Prior to the arrival of the European colonists, the American Indian tribes practiced slavery.

Contrary to what's being taught now, the American Indians did not die in such large numbers due to a deliberate genocide campaign against them. They had no immunity to European diseases, and the colonists did not anticipate that the American Indians would be nearly wiped out just by being introduced to the European people.

Initial contacts were tentative but not really hostile. The early colonists and the natives were able to work with each other and establish trade relationships between their groups.

The wars occurred later as more colonists began flooding in, sometimes squabbling over territory and sometimes because different Indian tribes sided with different warring groups of Europeans. It was not just the English that were colonizing America. The French and Spanish were as well, and headbutting occurred.

American history is not as simplistic as it's being taught. Good guys and bad guys came in all colors. There were black slave owners. There were white slaves. Some American Indian tribes were quite peaceful, and others were butchers. The same can be said about the European colonists, some peaceful, some warlike, some slaves, some slave owners.

Also no one talks about the huge number of Irish sold into chattel slavery in the Caribbean. Then there's the issue of the Barbary Pirates, who were kidnapping American citizens and selling them into slavery. This is the reason why the US Maine Corps was created.
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Yup. There were millions of white slaves abducted from Europe in North Africa...
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The United States should have fought on the side of Hitler against Russia and probably would have had it not been for the obscene strategic alliance between communist Russia and Captialist Britain. A match made in hell be the guess whos.
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Britain and the Soviet Union on the same side was definitely an odd mix. Most of the world was against the spread of communism and expected the next war to be against the Soviet Union to stop the spread of communism. But then Hitler and the Nazis seized power in Germany and quickly made it a fascist Police State where the people had no rights. Then Hitler and the Nazis started invading their neighboring countries. Germany invaded Czechoslovakia (in violation of the agreement Hitler made with Chamberlain just 6 months earlier), Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Yugoslavia and Greece before finally attacking the Soviet Union.

And that is what formed the odd alliance between Capitalism and Communism, they were forced to fight together against anti-freedom National Socialism which had overrun all of Western Europe.

The funny thing is that it was Adolf Hitler that declared war on the United States. Again it was unlikely that the United States would side with such a freedom crushing fascist dictatorship who had invaded and conquered most of Europe. Still on December 11, 1941 after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor Adolf Hitler declared war on the United States. The war was turning against Germany, the Wehrmacht had just been defeated at the Battle of Moscow, and the US was focused on Japan. Still Adolf Hitler declared war on the US just to make sure the US joined the war in Europe as soon as possible.
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Oh, we are sure, those rightwous British and French never invaded anybody.





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