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Shots fired Santa Fe High School (Texas)

 
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I do not want to fan the conspiracy theories.

But I live in Houston and saw an interview with a hospital administrator at one of the hospitals where injured were taken.

He said that they were aware that something was going on and started to ramp up staff and prepare.... at around 6:30 am.

6:30 am?

He then went out of his way to say he didn't want to give specifics about injured because he wanted to make sure he did not give out bad information.
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Are u a yanny or laurel...cuz hearing aint what it used to be.
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An average 12 gauge hunting shotgun holds 5 rounds, just 3 rounds if the plug is installed for migratory birds.

Off the shelf tactical shotguns generally hold 8 rounds in the magazine tube plus one in the chamber.
Magazine tube extensions can be added to hold more rounds but since the rounds are stacked in a line, the shotgun gets longer and more unwieldy, and definitely harder to conceal in anything.

There are shotguns with detachable magazine boxes that can hold 15 or more rounds. These shotguns are usually less reliable due to the box magazines, but are usually semi-auto so faster shots than a pump action.

Remington 870 just came out with a modification to add detachable box magazines to their 870 pump action shotgun. The joke was that even Remington can make a pump action unreliable, because of the box magazine.

So if there were 16 gun shots, that would mean the shooter would have to reload completely if it held a full 8 rounds.

Reloading a shotgun is very slow and fumbly, if you're not a 3 gun competitor and have a lot of practice. Sure Keith Garcia, Jerry Miculek and other phenom competitive shooters can reload and shoot very fast. But a high school student to be able to reload under stress would be very difficult and slow.
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Wow...u make it sound like it waz a real shootin.
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If you dont think its real then there is nothing left to say to you. Cant reason with stupid.
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Fox just said. Multiple casualties
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Re: Shots fired Santa Fe High School (Texas)
An average 12 gauge hunting shotgun holds 5 rounds, just 3 rounds if the plug is installed for migratory birds.

Off the shelf tactical shotguns generally hold 8 rounds in the magazine tube plus one in the chamber.
Magazine tube extensions can be added to hold more rounds but since the rounds are stacked in a line, the shotgun gets longer and more unwieldy, and definitely harder to conceal in anything.

There are shotguns with detachable magazine boxes that can hold 15 or more rounds. These shotguns are usually less reliable due to the box magazines, but are usually semi-auto so faster shots than a pump action.

Remington 870 just came out with a modification to add detachable box magazines to their 870 pump action shotgun. The joke was that even Remington can make a pump action unreliable, because of the box magazine.

So if there were 16 gun shots, that would mean the shooter would have to reload completely if it held a full 8 rounds.

Reloading a shotgun is very slow and fumbly, if you're not a 3 gun competitor and have a lot of practice. Sure Keith Garcia, Jerry Miculek and other phenom competitive shooters can reload and shoot very fast. But a high school student to be able to reload under stress would be very difficult and slow.
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Thanks-answered my question while I was typing it!

8 DEAD
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8 DEAD
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ABC reporting 8 deaths
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Down the street from me....
[link to abc13.com]
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Hopefully not another Trump hater who has flaked out.

Sigh

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8 Dead
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"8 Casualties" - as per law enforcement....

News is confused - dont know if casualty means fatality...they are perplexed...
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Lotzo confusion in the control room about whether USA children being slaughtered at school again should get air play over Royal Wedding shizt.
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Horrible.
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Done with a shotgun, guess that takes away the "Evil Semi-Auto rifle!" problem.
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Since its Texas if it was a non white they would have already said it. So white gun nut trumper is my bet. If you dont wanna ban guns just ban trump supporters. They are mostly Russian anyways. The rest are not the best and brightest we have here so no loss whatsoever.
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You dont need any background check or anything for a shot gun, correct? You can walk into Walmart and walk out with one?
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Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
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Done with a shotgun, guess that takes away the "Evil Semi-Auto rifle!" problem.
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Exactly
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Person with an open carry and a MAGA hat standing out there....
 Quoting: EverythingIsAwesome


Probably an accomplice.
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You know...because drawing attention to yourself with a bright red hat while waving a flag makes sense.
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Typical dumbass trump supporter for ya.
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If we are being completely honest, I support him as far as anyone who loves our country should support a sitting president if they want progress in our country. I praise his accomplishments, and criticize his failures.

I didn't vote for him (or anyone that wasn't local) as I haven't since 2008. I refuse to sanctify a process designed to keep us dumb and fighting.

Vote local and start sending better people to DC. At the very least, go hug a puppy or get some ice cream and stop being such a grumpy bitch!
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sorry that one also

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Odd. Maybe because you are outside US? I’m on phone so I can’t say if computer works. Can anyone else access this?
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ABC reporting 8 deaths
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That's heartbreaking

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"8 Casualties" - as per law enforcement....

News is confused - dont know if casualty means fatality...they are perplexed...
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Lotzo confusion in the control room about whether USA children being slaughtered at school again should get air play over Royal Wedding shizt.
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maybe this was a sacrifice to the royals.
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Done with a shotgun, guess that takes away the "Evil Semi-Auto rifle!" problem.
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No it doesn't... it means they will now go after a wider spectrum of gun types. ARs AND shotguns on the ban list now. sigh
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Done with a shotgun, guess that takes away the "Evil Semi-Auto rifle!" problem.
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No it doesn't... it means they will now go after a wider spectrum of gun types. ARs AND shotguns on the ban list now. sigh
 Quoting: The Årtist


Yes
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Student Shooter says born to kill
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Down the street from me....
[link to abc13.com]
 Quoting: Maguyver


Hopefully not another Trump hater who has flaked out.

Sigh

yoda
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BAN THIS ASSHOLE MODS
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You dont need any background check or anything for a shot gun, correct? You can walk into Walmart and walk out with one?
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You need a background check to purchase any firearm in any kind of store. I have a CCW and still have to have one ran. Long rifles don't (federally) have a wait time. Some places are starting to implement one on their own.

Last Edited by GTB on 05/18/2018 11:09 AM
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sorry that one also

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Odd. Maybe because you are outside US? I’m on phone so I can’t say if computer works. Can anyone else access this?
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got you, thanks.
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An average 12 gauge hunting shotgun holds 5 rounds, just 3 rounds if the plug is installed for migratory birds.

Off the shelf tactical shotguns generally hold 8 rounds in the magazine tube plus one in the chamber.
Magazine tube extensions can be added to hold more rounds but since the rounds are stacked in a line, the shotgun gets longer and more unwieldy, and definitely harder to conceal in anything.

There are shotguns with detachable magazine boxes that can hold 15 or more rounds. These shotguns are usually less reliable due to the box magazines, but are usually semi-auto so faster shots than a pump action.

Remington 870 just came out with a modification to add detachable box magazines to their 870 pump action shotgun. The joke was that even Remington can make a pump action unreliable, because of the box magazine.

So if there were 16 gun shots, that would mean the shooter would have to reload completely if it held a full 8 rounds.

Reloading a shotgun is very slow and fumbly, if you're not a 3 gun competitor and have a lot of practice. Sure Keith Garcia, Jerry Miculek and other phenom competitive shooters can reload and shoot very fast. But a high school student to be able to reload under stress would be very difficult and slow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70888671


Wow...u make it sound like it waz a real shootin.
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If you dont think its real then there is nothing left to say to you. Cant reason with stupid.
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How do you know it is real?

Because juishhh controlled media said so?
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Student Shooter says born to kill
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I haven't heard a name yet. Is this the shooter?
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ABC reporting 8 deaths
 Quoting: LunaFlora


That's heartbreaking

tissue
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My oldest daughter just came into my office. She's crying her eyes out seeing people on TV she knows. Heartbreaking. These are people in our community. Our neighbors.

I am just glad I put her into a private school (out today). Or she would be right in the middle of all this.

Very sad day for us!!!
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Just had a mass casualty drill at the hospital per CNN
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ABC reporting 8 deaths
 Quoting: LunaFlora


That's heartbreaking

tissue
 Quoting: MultiStrada


My oldest daughter just came into my office. She's crying her eyes out seeing people on TV she knows. Heartbreaking. These are people in our community. Our neighbors.

I am just glad I put her into a private school (out today). Or she would be right in the middle of all this.

Very sad day for us!!!
 Quoting: Maguyver


That's horrible. hf
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Re: Shots fired Santa Fe High School (Texas)
Done with a shotgun, guess that takes away the "Evil Semi-Auto rifle!" problem.
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No it doesn't... it means they will now go after a wider spectrum of gun types. ARs AND shotguns on the ban list now. sigh
 Quoting: The Årtist


Maybe now all the smug FUDDS who only care about their shotguns will get off the bench and join the fight against gun control.





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