A dream from God...

More than I can count.

I have been born again via a dramatic transformation from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light, and also baptised by fire, I have been in the spiritual presence of God and have heard the angelic hosts singing and worshipping in unison together. I have been set free from demonic strongholds, and also have been healed. Not too mention the many miracles that I witness daily and many that i have also seen manifest in others lives.

I have attended with others in 'classes' (for lack of a better word) where we sought to hear the voice of God and were given confirmation also through others who have heard the same word spoken. I have been a christian for almost 28 years and this is nothing that is foreign to my walk. In fact I always thought it was normal for those who were christian to have experienced these same occurances by being in the Spirit. But I am discovering that there are those who are christian who have not had any Spiritual manifestations that they recognize as of yet. But i find that difficult to understand that they can still believe, to these I admire for their faith, because if I had not any proof of the risen Christ and His authority I don't know that i would even have a relationship with God.

Yes, those transfering from here to the eternal realms are in fact "born" into those realms much like here while the newbie spirits generated by Twin Flames are in fact born on the "shore" here. Very accurate.

WOW friend, blessing galore …lol …then maybe I miss-understood your original question…sorry friend…long day for me.

Yes that Son of Ruddy man Ezekiel(Strength of Yah), quite the character. ;-)

Much to be seen there for sure.

I am just trying to understand what you are saying.

But I will clarify what i am asking.


To me a person is of the Spirit of God, because their personal testimony is that of Jesus Christ coming to dwell within their flesh which transforms them into the temple of God. It is not about religion or attending a certain brotherhood or sect, though I do know that their are a majority of confessing christians who are in this state. They are easily spotted as they talk more of their sect or church than they do of God and His true temple.

John says it best.

1 John 4
2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.

So in response to what you said .....""What if I told you some of us have already “met” God or rather, He has chosen to “reveal” Himself to some of us in a very tangible way?""

I was wondering how it is possible to not meet Christ or be revealed Him by the Father and still classify oneself as christian. As this has always been the testimony that differentiates those who are merely being churchians as to those who are the living temple of God.

Because as in my own walk and experience I consider their also to be millions of others around the world who have encountered the Spirit of God and been changed by this. And it seemed to me as though you are speaking of this 'spiritual encounter' as a'new thing' that only a couple of individuals scattered here and there are witnessing. So I suppose I am asking now if we are speaking of the same thing here, and perhaps you have not been exposed as much to recognizing this as happening on a worldwide scale. Or are you referring to something completely different altogether?

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To me a person is of the Spirit of God, because their personal testimony is that of Jesus Christ coming to dwell within their flesh which transforms them into the temple of God. It is not about religion or attending a certain brotherhood or sect, though I do know that their are a majority of confessing christians who are in this state. They are easily spotted as they talk more of their sect or church than they do of God and His true temple.

John says it best.

1 John 4
2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. eq



I follow you friend and agree…


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So in response to what you said .....""What if I told you some of us have already “met” God or rather, He has chosen to “reveal” Himself to some of us in a very tangible way?""

I was wondering how it is possible to not meet Christ or be revealed Him by the Father and still classify oneself as christian. As this has always been the testimony that differentiates those who are merely being churchians as to those who are the living temple of God.

Because as in my own walk and experience I consider their also to be millions of others around the world who have encountered the Spirit of God and been changed by this. And it seemed to me as though you are speaking of this 'spiritual encounter' as a'new thing' that only a couple of individuals scattered here and there are witnessing. So I suppose I am asking now if we are speaking of the same thing here, and perhaps you have not been exposed as much to recognizing this as happening on a worldwide scale. Or are you referring to something completely different altogether? eq



Yes my friend, I realize that there are many of us out there that have “experienced” these things, so it is not new to us, but the “remark” was for a testimony/record. I do hope I’m making sense here for you friend. I understand where you are coming from…We have been here for a few years and have talked about this before, sorry if you miss-understood me.

Peace

I understand now. I y can be a very difficult task to describe the nature of spiritual things. Unless of course these same things are experienced by others as well. I can completely relate to the peace of God that surpasses all understanding, but I cannot describe this to anyone and do the description the justice that is deserved.

I understand now. It can be a very difficult task to describe the nature of spiritual things. Unless of course these same things are experienced by others as well. I can completely relate to the peace of God that surpasses all understanding, but I cannot describe this to anyone and do the description the justice that is deserved.

WOW, these forums are really hard to get on tonight, even with high speed…lol


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I understand now. It can be a very difficult task to describe the nature of spiritual things. Unless of course these same things are experienced by others as well. I can completely relate to the peace of God that surpasses all understanding, but I cannot describe this to anyone and do the description the justice that is deserved. Eq



I’m glad you we got that clear-up friend…and yes, it is a difficult task, but this is exactly where we are going with all this…to show them and to help them.

Spiritual Socialization…given on 4-28-07



Well friends, don’t mean to go, but I had a very long day….so Goodnight GLP, Be Blessed and I’ll cya tomorrow…

And thanks everyone…always a pleasure talking with you folks.


Peace

It's really quite simple.

A person is a spirit of God....when God SAYS he is.

No one ...once this declaration is made ...can change it.

Not opinions of behavior...or actual acts of behavior
can change a declaration [ or election ].

Not the opinions of angels..or other entities .....
can change God's mind.

It was really done "before the foundations of the Earth"
....before anything in our universe was put in motion.

"manifestations" pale in comparison.

Exactly friend, exactly!

Night' GLP

2 Corinthians 5:16
Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.

where two worlds meet...
betwixt and between.


In Shamanism this is a place
where the spirit realm is most a
accessible. A shore is one of
these places.

beautiful....heaven meets earth.

Navion,

What you say here reminds me of how a certain tradition
has always said, "do not become attached to the manifestations."

These are side roads and detours that can be pitfalls
on the way up the mountain for those who become intrigued
with illusions of power that are self generated instead
of the power that is given and flows through a heart that
does not seek personal gain.

The Corinthian passage says to me that Christ is not known
or made manifest in the carnal mind...but is known only when
the <mind knowing> is transcended for the expereince at the heart....integration into the sacred heart is an experience not a knowing so to speak.

<<<<<<IMHO>>>>>> as always and with deep respect for all
views.

Good morning GLP

Again, Right on the mark!

WORD given to share, a few weeks ago or so...

If you have been Chosen, Do you think you have a choice?

If someone is born into Royalty but is not loyal to their Royalty, are they still Royal?

And your Royalty was Before Birth…

….Their “path” the same, It’s your Destiny. Relax and go out. Destiny can not be changed.

Mornin' friend...

Yes, I do hope that "issue" gets resolved soon, because at the present, there is just no way GLP is going to be able to handle all the “traffic” its about to get…

Yes….sites working great at the moment…I does however, get “attacked” constantly, but Trinity and the mods do an awesome job keeping things in line. I’ve been here for about 3 years..I have rarely seen any spam make it to page 2.. and page 3…forget it.


Peace

possibility of error does not equate to certainty of error

me 2 :)

Again...Good morning GLP

Spiritual Socialization…given on 4-28-07

Dear souls, let me clear something up here…

What some call “Supernatural” is quite “Normal” for the children of God.

It is quite obvious that some of us have experienced “supernatural” manifestations and such throughout our life time and though this be “normal” to some of us, this however is not the case for the world in general…and that is what is about to change. We have to look at the BIG picture here friends, for this concerns every single person , 6 Billion plus, on this planet.


From a WORD we shared almost 1 year ago, this month…

Peace at will,
Peace be Still,
LISTEN!!
RELAX!
Hear IT?
Smell IT!
I AM speaking, do you hear me? Don’t look for me, For I AM There.
Feel ME – See Me !! NOW !!

Look not for me…Remember, I AM there.

Look For the miracles “Count them”

At 42 comes many more…too many to count, it becomes Natural,
Normal to ALL!!

Then Peace will come to ones self…

When the Natural Comes!

Let the Change Begin!

Live..Live..Life

Given on May 29th 2006


Quote… At 42 comes many more…too many to count, it becomes Natural,
Normal to ALL!!

Quote from another WORD given…

Spring has "Sprung" etc..... All things will return to its "Natural Norm"
(as some may say)


The Quiet....Strong...Spirits are awaiting...into their arms many will run. They will be GUIDED…into the righteous direction....the paths will Glow with Heavenly Love...no Free wills will be "LOST"!!!!!!...

THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!! Given on 2/20/06




Now do you some of you “see” it? Spiritual Socialization…given on 4-28-07

Here may be an easier way to understand it…. Think of the “fall” of Man, who was created in The Image of God and the Curse on the planet, now with that in mind, think of its “reversal”. Yes, that is what we are talking about here friends…

A New Heaven and New Earth and a “Bringing” forth of this by His will and Power through The Son’s Of God and the “manifestation” of them to the world, to “Help” them, “The people” with the “transition”… Spiritual Socialization …Selah

Hope that made sense to many of you.

Peace

….When the Natural Comes!

And “see” GLP, I already knew there were many of you here, I have known for some time now…so in a sense I realize that much of these things do not directly apply to some of you, because you are just like us…Selah and Hug!

Well...off to work friends...I'll catch ya a little later.

Peace

One more thing…I found this some time ago…found it very “revealing”…enjoy!

1679 Prophecy of the Sons of God

by Jane Leade of London England

[link to www.americaslastdays.com]


The following remarkable prophecy, given in the year 1679, forcefully confirms the truths written above. We quote it in its entirety for your benefit and blessing. Please read and re-read it for its truths are profound:

There shall be a total and full redemption by Christ. This is a hidden mystery not to be understood without the revelation of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is at hand to reveal the same unto all holy seekers and loving enquirers. The completion of such a redemption is withheld and abstracted by the seals of Revelation. Wherefore as the Spirit of God shall open seal after seal, so shall this redemption come to be revealed, both particularly and universally. In the gradual opening of the mystery of redemption in Christ doth consist the unsearchable wisdom of God which may continually reveal new and fresh things to the worthy seeker. In order to which the Ark of the Testimony in Heaven shall be opened before the end of this age, and the living testimony herein contained shall be unsealed.

The presence of the Divine Ark (Christ) will constitute the life of this Virgin Church, and wherever this body is, there must the Ark of necessity be. The unsealing of the living testimony within the Ark of God must begin the promulgation of the everlasting gospel of the Kingdom. The proclamation of the testimony will be as the sounding of a trumpet of alarm to the nations of professed Christendom. Authority shall be given by Christ to the putting an end to all controversies concerning the true church that is born of the New Jerusalem mother. This decision will be the actual sealing of the body of Christ with the name (or authority) of God, giving them a commission to act by the same. This new name (or authority) will distinguish them from the seven thousand names of Babylon.

The election and preparation of this Virgin Church is to be after a secret and hidden manner. As David in his ministry was chosen and anointed by the prophet of the Lord, yet was not admitted to the outward profession of the kingdom for a considerable time afterward, of the stem of David a Virgin Church, which hath known nothing of a man or human constitution, is to be born, and it will require some time for it to get out of the minority and arrive at full and mature age.

The birth of this Virgin Church was typified by St. John's vision where the great wonder appeared in heaven, bringing forth her first born, that was caught up to the throne of God (or identified with the authority of God). For as a virgin woman brought forth Christ after the flesh, so shall a Virgin Church bring forth the first born after the Spirit, who shall be endowed with the seven spirits of God. This church so brought forth and sealed with the mark of divine authority will have no bonds or impositions; but the holy unction among these new born spirits will be all in all.

There is not at this day (1679) visible upon the earth such a church; all profession being found light when weighed in the balances. Therefore they are rejected by the Supreme Judge, which rejection will be for this cause, that out of them may come a new and glorious church. Then shall the glory of God and the Lamb so rest upon this typical tabernacle, so that it shall be called the Tabernacle of Wisdom, and though it is not now known in visibility, yet it shall be seen as coming out of the wilderness within a short time. Then will it go on to multiply and propagate itself universally, not only to the number of the first born (144,000) but also to the remnant of the seed, against whom the dragon will make war continually.

Wherefore the spirit of David shall revive in this church and most especially in some elect members of it as the blossoming root. These will have might given them to overcome the dragon and his angels even as David overcame Goliath and the Philistine army. This will be the standing up of the great prince Michael, and it will be as the appearing of Moses against Pharaoh in order that the chosen seed may be brought out of hard servitude.
Egypt doth figure this servile creation under which Abraham's seed groans, but a prophet, and the most prophetical generation, will the Most High raise up who shall deliver His people by the force of spiritual arms; for which there must be raised up certain head powers to bear the first office, who are to be persons in favour with God whose dread and fear shall fall on all nations visible and invisible, because of the mighty acting power of the Holy Spirit which shall rest upon them. For Christ will appear in some chosen vessels to bring into the Promised Land the New Creation state.

Thus Moses, Joshua, and Aaron may be considered types of some upon whom the same Spirit will come, yet in greater proportion. Whereby they shall make way for the ransomed of the Lord to return to Mt. Zion; but none shall stand under God but those who have become "tried" stones after the pattern and similitude of Christ. This will be fiery trial through which a very few will be able to pass or bear up in it. Whereby the waiters for this visible breaking forth are strictly charged to hold fast, and wait together in the unity of Pure Love. This trial will be of absolute necessity to all for the clearing away of all remaining infirmities of the natural mind, and the burning of all wood, hay, and stubble. For nothing must remain in the fire, for as a refiner shall He purify the sons of the Kingdom.

There will be some who will be fully redeemed, being clothed upon with a priestly garment after the Melchisedek order. This will qualify them for governing Authority. Therefore it is required on their part to suffer the Spirit of burning and fanning of the fiery breath searching every part within them until they arrive at a Fixed Body from whence the wonders are to flow out.

Upon this body will be the fixation of the Urim and Thummim* that are the portion of the Melchisedek priesthood whose descent is not counted in the genealogy of that creation which is under the fall, but in another genealogy which is a New Creation. Hence these priests will have a deep inward search and divine sight into secret things of Deity; will be able to prophesy in a clear ground; not darkly and enigmatically, for they will know what is couched in the first originality of all beings, in the eternal anti-type of nature, and will be able to bring them forth according to the divine counsel and ordination.

The Lord sweareth in truth and righteousness that from Abraham's line, according to the Spirit, there shall arise a holy seed, produced and manifested in the last age. The mighty spirit of Cyrus is appointed to lay the foundation of this Third Temple and support it in building.
There are characteristics and marks whereby the pure Virgin Church shall be known and distinguished from all others that are low, false, and counterfeit. There must be a manifestation of the Spirit whereby to edify and raise up this church, bringing heaven down upon the earth and representing here the New Jerusalem state, in order to which spirits are thus begotten and born of God, ascended to New Jerusalem above where their Head in majesty doth reign.
None but those who have so ascended and received His glory can condescend and communicate the same, being thereby His representatives upon the earth and subordinate priests under Him now. He that has ascended and glorified has made Himself, as it were, our Debtor. Consequently, He will not be wanting in qualifying and furnishing certain high and principal instruments who shall be most humble and as little regarded as David was, whom He will dignify with honour and priestly sovereignty for drawing to them the scattered flocks, and gathering them into one fold out of all nations.

Therefore, there should be a holy emulation and ambition stirred up among the bands of believers that they may be of the first-fruits unto Him that is risen from the dead, and so be made principal agents for Him and with Him, that they may be, if possible, of the number of the First-born of the New Jerusalem mother. All true waiters of His Kingdom in Spirit, under whatsoever profession they may be, ought to be numbered among the virgin spirits to whom this message appertains. Be watchful and quicken your pace.
*Urim and Thummim

The meaning of Urim and Thummim is "Lights and Perfections" or some say "Perfect lights." They were a prophetic method of hearing from God that were on the priest's garments. The Urim and Thummim are first mentioned in the description of the breastplate of judgment that was to be on the High Priest's heart (Exodus 28:30; Leviticus 8:8). The Rabbis think that its prophetic ability came from light shining through the twelve gemstones, one for each tribe, mounted on the breastplate. The light was said to come from a plate inscribed with the name of God, YHWH, behind the gemstone mounts. Light from the name would illuminate different stones, which were inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes. The Talmud teaches that it spelled out messages for the High Priest. The wisdom given from them in Scriptures seem to be full sentences rather than yes or no like the lot.

Scripture seems to indicate they were mostly used for important questions concerning the state of Israel, like if and when to go to war. When Joshua became leader over Israel, he was commanded to receive direction from God by the Urim through the High Priest (Numbers 27:21). The Urim and Thummim are mentioned early in the history of Israel and seem to have mostly stopped when the prophets became common around a thousand years before Christ.
Blessings
David