A dream from God...

You know GLP there really is only one way we can settle all this…and the “problem” is, you know it or do you dear souls?

God confirms His Word
with signs following
i think we need to let God
do what God does

The Bible is not a history book. Although certainly historical, its intentions are not to describe and document the events of human history, but rather to describe the relationship of mankind to God over time in order to show the need for salvation and proclaim the method to obtain it.


When we read the Bible, however, we are reading about real events which took place within the structure and fabric of actual human history. Glimpses of that history are found throughout the scriptures and we see a mosaic of what life was like during these ancient times, but we cannot develop a full picture of history from the Bible. In the New Testament, we are given a partial picture of what life was like in one of the tributary nations (Judea) under the Roman Empire, but we are not given a general history of the Romans or the Jews. The writer’s intentions were aimed at another, more important task.


We must not, however, make the mistake of reading the Bible as if it were a story unto itself without regarding the political, military, economic, and human environment in which the events of the Bible took place. In other words, we cannot remove the Bible from the true human history of which it was a real part.


God, of course, has often been an active force in human affairs. This is one aspect of history that is documented in the scriptures. In the earliest times, God was directly involved with his people, appearing and speaking in tangible forms that men could see and hear. Later, he would appear or speak only to select persons who would act as a liaison between God and his people. During the times of the Old Testament prophets, we find God dealing with human events still, but doing so in an indirect way.


As God’s chosen people, the Hebrew nation is the focus of the Old Testament. On more than a few occasions, the people of Israel would so sin that God would become angered and would punish them. A secular historian looking back at those times would see Israel attacked and overrun by the armies of some neighboring kingdom such as Assyria or Medo-Persia. There was nothing unusual about that at the time; these nation-states, large and small, were constantly interacting with brutal wars and the enslavement of whole populations.


What is interesting from a Biblical standpoint is that we see the manner in which God used these seemingly autonomous pagan human armies as tools to punish his wayward people. The Old Testament prophets would give their people warning – straight from God – that a great destruction was approaching because of their continued sin. This event was always referred to as a great “day of the Lord” and God, speaking through his prophet, would say how he intended to punish them. For instance, in Amos 5:18, the prophet speaks of the coming doom of the north kingdom of Israel. In verse 27, God says:


“Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus.”

“Beyond Damascus” meant to Assyria – that is, God would cause the brutal Assyrian nation to successfully attack and carry off into captivity the people of Israel, which is, of course, what happened.


So, we see how God used human, historical events to interact with his people. His involvement was direct in terms of cause and effect, but indirect in terms of the method he used to bring about his will. The events caused directly by the hand of God would appear to the pagan world as “normal” events of human history. Only those aware of the prophecies would know the true nature of these wars.


This concept of God using pagan human armies to indirectly accomplish his prophesied purposes is crucial to understanding the prophecies of the New Testament.


In the New Testament, the focus, so long tuned to the people living under the Law of Moses, shifts sharply to the new Kingdom, the new Law, and the new King, Jesus Christ. Here was the beginning of a new people chosen of God, composed of those who accepted Jesus as their savior. This fledgling church had many enemies.


The Jews and the Christians both lived under the thumb of Roman rule. Pagan Rome did not understand or have any desire to condone the upstart Christians any more than they did the Jews. Rome would have been happy to see this Christianity “cult” die out as so many others had. The Roman’s dealings with the Christians were not of the same scale, though, as their relations with the Jews. Even though many horrible (and important) persecutions of Christians took place at their hands (especially after the great fire in Rome in A.D. 64), this new “Jewish sect” was a small matter in the overall Roman world view.


The Jewish view of this new group was quite another matter. Christianity may not have represented an obvious threat to mighty Rome, but to the political/religious leaders of Judea the followers of the Nazarene were seen as very dangerous indeed. This upstart group had proclaimed the man Jesus as the Messiah and set up a system of religious beliefs and activities outside the Jewish system they had so long held sacred. This, they simply could not tolerate. This new Christianity and its followers must be denounced as blasphemous and stamped out in any way possible.


Thus, persecutions began against the followers of Christ from the very beginning. After the resurrection of Christ, things became truly perilous for the disciples as the Jewish leaders realized that the death of Jesus was only the beginning of Christianity and not the end as they had intended. As the congregations spread and grew, the danger to members was growing as well.


The Jews were the most powerful threat and present danger to the Church of Christ during its first years. Judaism was the soil from which Christ sprang, but in their rejection of him, the Jews became the Church’s greatest enemy. It is very important to realize that if left unchecked, the tradition-bound and corrupt Jewish system would most certainly have restrained and destroyed the fledgling Church. It was a mismatch of size and worldly political power that could have easily overwhelmed them. The Sanhedrin was powerful and represented a very large number of people and a way of life centuries old. The newborn Christian Church was small and, due to its nature, would not fight with fist and sword or build up its numbers through political trickery and murder. It would seem a hopeless situation for the disciples of Jesus of Nazareth. Other religious sects had come and gone. This one would surely succumb to the heavy foot of Jewish orthodoxy as well.

faith is not delusional

Lol @ forums acting up. It is time to be revealed or exposed :)
Exciting times ahead!

If Everyone Cared lyrics

From underneath the trees, we watch the sky
Confusing stars for satellites
I never dreamed that you'd be mine
But here we are, we're here tonight

Singing Amen, I, I'm alive
Singing Amen, I, I'm alive

[Chorus:]
If everyone cared and nobody cried
If everyone loved and nobody lied
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died

And I'm singing

Amen I, Amen I, I'm alive
Amen I, Amen I, Amen I, I'm alive

And in the air the fireflies
Our only light in paradise
We'll show the world they were wrong
And teach them all to sing along

Singing Amen, I, I'm alive
Singing Amen, I, I'm alive
(I'm alive)

[Chorus x2]

And as we lie beneath the stars
We realize how small we are
If they could love like you and me
Imagine what the world could be

If everyone cared and nobody cried
If everyone loved and nobody lied
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died
When nobody died...

[Chorus]

We'd see the day, we'd see the day
When nobody died
We'd see the day, we'd see the day
When nobody died
We'd see the day when nobody died






:godsfire:

Dear souls….can’t some of you “see” what is taking place right before our eyes?

*Hint…He (God) has “exposed” me….or rather is about to “reveal” Himself in me…as well as others

in other words there is an “Unveiling” taking place right before our eyes…think about it…real hard.



Cherished one,

There are really no word's that can
explain what is happening, the feeling
of it is received by me in complete
understanding and compassion for how
shock&awe/SHEKINAH this is when you are
being rocked to the very core with the
revelations.

This is why I have "heard" for a couple
months now...

the road to damascus.

in more ways than <one>


Incredible to watch timelines converge and
realise <what> you have lined yourself up with
from the alpha to the omega of this creation
story....it's a real head spin.

Grace.

oh....and it happened in a "normal" day to day kind of way...in other words, suddenly

oh....and it happened in a "normal" day to day kind of way...in other words, suddenly



Awesome Cherished One!

oh....and it happened in a "normal" day to day kind of way...in other words, suddenly



Awesome Cherished One!


By Grace and Love, I assure you... :)

oh....and it happened in a "normal" day to day kind of way...in other words, suddenly

oh....and it happened in a "normal" day to day kind of way...in other words, suddenly



Awesome Cherished One!


By Grace and Love, I assure you... :)


:) I know how good it feels

Phoenix, I don't want to sidetrack this thread, but don't know how else to go about it, due to the lack of PM-ability - is there a way you could put in code or something how to get to your forum?


Cherished One, though we may all be our own guru, it doesn't mean we can't absorb, sift, and integrate other's divine translations. Thank you for your caring sharing.

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What if I told you some of us have already “met” God or rather, He has chosen to “reveal” Himself to some of us in a very tangible way? As in, for starters... opening up our “spiritual” sight to see Him from time to time? This should be no surprise to some of you because we have been throwing “hints” at you all for over a year now, though this would be the first time we have ever spoken of it openly on these forums.

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What if I told you some of us have already “met” God or rather, He has chosen to “reveal” Himself to some of us in a very tangible way? As in, for starters... opening up our “spiritual” sight to see Him from time to time? This should be no surprise to some of you because we have been throwing “hints” at you all for over a year now, though this would be the first time we have ever spoken of it openly on these forums.



How does one clasify themselves a christian without having first met Christ? Or am i missing what you are saying here?

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What if I told you some of us have already “met” God or rather, He has chosen to “reveal” Himself to some of us in a very tangible way? As in, for starters... opening up our “spiritual” sight to see Him from time to time? This should be no surprise to some of you because we have been throwing “hints” at you all for over a year now, though this would be the first time we have ever spoken of it openly on these forums.



How does one clasify themselves a christian without having first met Christ? Or am i missing what you are saying here?


Sorry friend, but your missing what I'm saying here.

Phoenix2012 thanks! Looks super. Has been bookmarked.

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What if I told you some of us have already “met” God or rather, He has chosen to “reveal” Himself to some of us in a very tangible way? As in, for starters... opening up our “spiritual” sight to see Him from time to time? This should be no surprise to some of you because we have been throwing “hints” at you all for over a year now, though this would be the first time we have ever spoken of it openly on these forums.



How does one clasify themselves a christian without having first met Christ? Or am i missing what you are saying here?


Sorry friend, but your missing what I'm saying here.






Could you please clarify if you will, because I am a little confused as to what you are trying to say then.

Baby’s are born on the Mountain… New one’s are Born on the “Shore”…given 7-17-04