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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75964861 United States 12/10/2017 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People dont understand cryptos were made by Quantum computers like the D-wave quantum computer - people think its hard to mine and impossible to cheat but they know nothing about Quantum computers or how they work- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75964861 Explain it to us like we're kindergartners please. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] i aint got the time AI created cryptos to exploit human greed- You guys are fools your also treating it like a stock market investment and not the intended purpose of being a currency- burn in the lake of fire you marked beasts - Hard to argue with the logic of a bible tard... Wasn't the mark of the beast social security numbers? And then credit cards? And then QR codes? And now bitcoin? Wonder what the next mark of the beast will be... dont know dont care i wasnt here when ss numbers and bar codes came out - obviously those things are precursers to the one world currency and the chip implant ? I meant you dont was to loose your bitcoin by misplacing your usb card do you ? you need a chip implanted in you so you dont loose it right? any way get bent satanist atheists- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75408574 United States 12/10/2017 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read somewhere that there are 3 fatal pitfalls with a digital bit-coin Quoting: Chugiakian #1 In If you think the Global elite bankers are going to sit on the sidelines and let this take over, you are crazy. They are playing us all as fools. yea your right but what can they do about it? nothing. we trust in each other. #2 No Guarantees Exchanges have already been hacked and stolen and... what is your point? #3 No Inherent Value Just like there is no longer any value in the Fiat Currency we currently use, there is certainly no value in ones and zero's sitting in cyberspace..... Tell me, what is a fair price? A price based on wild speculation?? does not deserve a response If you think The Powers that Think They Be are going to sit on the sidelines and let this take over, you are fooling yourself. they are behind this all the way. Just go look at the cover of the Economist magazine from 1988 (unable to paste link from silver doctors commentary)..... /headlines/world-news/world-cryptocurrency-not-gold-backed-yuan-in-light-of-the-1988-economist-magazine/ Snip "It is a growth-crippling prospect. Pencil in the phoenix for around 2018, and welcome it when it comes." Is the value of Bitcoin the value of the flood of monies into the coin? Is this what it is worth? Pure Speculation! Money that floods into these coins at a break neck speed, is this what gives it its value? This is the stuff panzi schemes from the 80's were made of, (except now they live in digital world), those who get in early rake in the money from all the suckers, er people who got in late. They tout how they got rich (off OPM) and are living fat n happy now. WOO HOO - Good for you, for getting in and getting out. Raking in profits on the suckers who came in behind you. Do you truly wear that badge of honor proudly? Do you look down on others who didn't get in? Couldn't get in? Or had the sense that something wasn't quite right with it? A digital drug, intoxicating to those who jumped in early, those watching and are tempted to jump in now, and to those in control. The Committee Called "They" call this a currency, Why? How is that possible? How can there be price stability in a digital currency that has no limits and that is not backed by anything tangible? The true definition of currency is to exchange one medium for another. Is this not suppose to be with some sort of stability? If the value of the dollar right now is tagged to this crypto currency, then we are truly witnessing the de-value of our money right before our eyes. For every dollar that floods into this 'currency', sucks the life blood away from the masses and makes people more dependent on a digital world and now not only a slave to the debt system we currently live in, but now a become a digital slave, more intwined in the wicked web we all helped weave.... You should be proud of your action. We all know wallets can be stolen, hacked and now the pickpockets can do it while sitting in the comfort of their chair. Help usher in the new age of coin, it will be implanted on the back of your hand soon enough, where else would it be safe? But what do I know, this is just my 2 cents which, in my opinion, is worth more than any digital crypto coin... Put your Trust in Jesus, the End is near.... IMHO |
TeChNoXiC®
User ID: 75969317 United States 12/10/2017 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree with you. I watch a video about the Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie crypto currencies and what all the flap about that robot getting "citizenship" in Saudi Arabia...It's about A.I. taking over--it was very alarming and I hope it isn't true. Otherwise, we are at the beginning of THE MATRIX...and we ALL know how that ended up! O'sCookie This, this, THIS. I cannot comprehend with even ONE microscopic piece of brian matter why folks are flocking to digital “bits”. Whether tangible assets, or crypto dreams, it’s all gone soon. Why...just, why? I'm not a doctor; I don't have patience. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75969968 United States 12/10/2017 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this a paradigm shift we are entering? Did you recognize the paradigm shift for the internet? It was a time when people were asking; What is the internet? Paradigm shifts don't announce themselves. They creep up on you, then before you know it, you're in one. We are entering the era of web 3. that will involve blockchain businesses that will eliminate the middleman, and un-bank us. Cryptocurrency is software code that will evolve and improve. There will be ongoing innovation that is an iterative, creative process. Today a futures market was launched on the CBOE. A new currency class called cryptocurrency is now trading. The world is not just made of atoms. Today it also is made of digital bits. What is the value proposition of the digital bit world? One day will you see yourself asking; How did we ever get along without it? We are clearly in the age of the network. Informational transmission of data doubles, but we can't clearly understand how often it doubles. Money transactions are now in a transformational stage. We will see organic growth leading to investor opportunities. Yes, this is a real paradigm shift. The high tech, Star Trek age requires this transformation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75944024 United States 12/10/2017 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #1 In GOD Nobody We Trust The Global Elite are actually the ones secretly behind the new Cryptocurrency takeover. Think about that for a bit. #2 No Guarantees True, but security is getting better all the time Bankers constantly "Steal" from money holders by printing of currency, devaluing said currency. #3 No Inherent Value No different than any other Fiat Currency on Earth. |
Duncan the destroyer
User ID: 75908809 United States 12/10/2017 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree with you. I watch a video about the Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie crypto currencies and what all the flap about that robot getting "citizenship" in Saudi Arabia...It's about A.I. taking over--it was very alarming and I hope it isn't true. Otherwise, we are at the beginning of THE MATRIX...and we ALL know how that ended up! O'sCookie This, this, THIS. I cannot comprehend with even ONE microscopic piece of brian matter why folks are flocking to digital “bits”. Whether tangible assets, or crypto dreams, it’s all gone soon. Why...just, why? PURE GREED Duncan the destroyer |
TeChNoXiC®
User ID: 75969317 United States 12/10/2017 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree with you. I watch a video about the Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie crypto currencies and what all the flap about that robot getting "citizenship" in Saudi Arabia...It's about A.I. taking over--it was very alarming and I hope it isn't true. Otherwise, we are at the beginning of THE MATRIX...and we ALL know how that ended up! O'sCookie This, this, THIS. I cannot comprehend with even ONE microscopic piece of brian matter why folks are flocking to digital “bits”. Whether tangible assets, or crypto dreams, it’s all gone soon. Why...just, why? PURE GREED Boom. That’s /thread. But seriously, I’m not being antagonistic at all - I love to debate. However this is truly one subject that I simply and flat out find humorous. I hear how many on this site are against the handlers and fiat currency, yet buy into a new and unknown “digital fantasy world” to then trade in for...drumroll...fiat currency! Indeed, greed. I'm not a doctor; I don't have patience. |
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TeChNoXiC®
User ID: 75969317 United States 12/10/2017 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is full of clueless retards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902267 cryptos ARE the future. If you understand what blockchain actually is you'd realize its the most secure and amazing form of currency ever created. it's the fucking future. Thanks for the clueless assumption in my apparent misunderstanding. What basis is your “currency” anchored to, and how is it the future? If you tell me it goes against all fiat control, I’m listening. I'm not a doctor; I don't have patience. |
Duncan the destroyer
User ID: 75908809 United States 12/10/2017 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree with you. I watch a video about the Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie crypto currencies and what all the flap about that robot getting "citizenship" in Saudi Arabia...It's about A.I. taking over--it was very alarming and I hope it isn't true. Otherwise, we are at the beginning of THE MATRIX...and we ALL know how that ended up! O'sCookie This, this, THIS. I cannot comprehend with even ONE microscopic piece of brian matter why folks are flocking to digital “bits”. Whether tangible assets, or crypto dreams, it’s all gone soon. Why...just, why? PURE GREED Boom. That’s /thread. But seriously, I’m not being antagonistic at all - I love to debate. However this is truly one subject that I simply and flat out find humorous. I hear how many on this site are against the handlers and fiat currency, yet buy into a new and unknown “digital fantasy world” to then trade in for...drumroll...fiat currency! Indeed, greed. If Bitcoin was indeed a better way of currency then why isn't anyone talking about it's virtues and why it's better? All the talk is about making huge profits from "getting in" now, That's not what this currency is suppose to be about.The fact that it's so fucking complicated basically rules out anyone that's not in I.T from figuring how it works is the biggest red flag of them all. It's fun to sit and watch greed take over yet another portion of peoples lives in order to make money. Last Edited by Duncan the destroyer on 12/10/2017 08:44 PM Duncan the destroyer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74888366 United States 12/10/2017 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the value is the protocol as a trustless medium of exchange that sustains itself with no central actors by providing incentives in the form of people mining/staking/running master nodes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74788550 platforms for video media, music, file transfer, contracts can be built on top of it and their are countless examples but i doubt you will look. THAT'S THE VALUE!! do you not pay endless transaction fees at banks to do some of these very things? the value is the protocol as a trustless medium of exchange that sustains itself with no central actors by providing incentives in the form of people mining/staking/running master nodes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74788550 platforms for video media, music, file transfer, contracts can be built on top of it and their are countless examples but i doubt you will look. THAT'S THE VALUE!! do you not pay endless transaction fees at banks to do some of these very things? You beating a dead horse The anti crypto crowd aren't smart enough to see what's going on. Most people aren't. You and I know it's a new hardware/software/protocol layer forming on top of the existing internet , it's the foundation of internet 3.0. Everything becomes decentralized ...everything. Everything will be encrypted. Value becomes a routable medium just like data. Lightning-"like networks reduce the complexity of value transaction bringing exponential efficiency and enabling real micro payments in the form of value streams . Best benefit is censorship and control become conecepts that no longer even apply. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75402404 United States 12/10/2017 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is full of clueless retards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902267 cryptos ARE the future. If you understand what blockchain actually is you'd realize its the most secure and amazing form of currency ever created. it's the fucking future. if you understood blockchain, you'd realize it can't scale to be a global currency. |
Chugiakian
(OP) User ID: 14505991 United States 12/10/2017 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is tempting as hell. Quoting: Affable Serpent I'd love to turn $50K into $60K overnight. I'll stick with precious metals. Silver and gold are tangible and will be money throughout the ages as they always have been. I think copper jacketed lead is the best way to invest. I have silver. I have gold. Nothing ensures the value of both like copper jacketed lead. Your delivery system may vary. Mine tend to be sent at supersonic speeds should such be required for those wishing to take them. I also have some that travel subsonic through a can to protect my hearing....if need be. Not to mention you can feed yourself with them Chugiakian |
TeChNoXiC®
User ID: 75969317 United States 12/10/2017 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the value is the protocol as a trustless medium of exchange that sustains itself with no central actors by providing incentives in the form of people mining/staking/running master nodes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74788550 platforms for video media, music, file transfer, contracts can be built on top of it and their are countless examples but i doubt you will look. THAT'S THE VALUE!! do you not pay endless transaction fees at banks to do some of these very things? the value is the protocol as a trustless medium of exchange that sustains itself with no central actors by providing incentives in the form of people mining/staking/running master nodes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74788550 platforms for video media, music, file transfer, contracts can be built on top of it and their are countless examples but i doubt you will look. THAT'S THE VALUE!! do you not pay endless transaction fees at banks to do some of these very things? You beating a dead horse The anti crypto crowd aren't smart enough to see what's going on. Most people aren't. You and I know it's a new hardware/software/protocol layer forming on top of the existing internet , it's the foundation of internet 3.0. Everything becomes decentralized ...everything. Everything will be encrypted. Value becomes a routable medium just like data. Lightning-"like networks reduce the complexity of value transaction bringing exponential efficiency and enabling real micro payments in the form of value streams . Best benefit is censorship and control become conecepts that no longer even apply. Dude. Just STFU with that. You sound like a retard high on pixie sticks. I'm not a doctor; I don't have patience. |
Chugiakian
(OP) User ID: 14505991 United States 12/10/2017 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What good is a digital wallet if there's no electricity to access it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75955956 This is an exhausting argument used over and over again. We are all f*cked if the grid goes down. Your cash will not be good either. If it gets too bad, people won't want gold or silver either. Food, water, and shelter will be the currency. I am not sure The Powers That Think They Be can afford for the power to go out. They need an obedient society, that produces for them to exist. Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74888366 United States 12/10/2017 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is full of clueless retards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902267 cryptos ARE the future. If you understand what blockchain actually is you'd realize its the most secure and amazing form of currency ever created. it's the fucking future. Thanks for the clueless assumption in my apparent misunderstanding. What basis is your “currency” anchored to, and how is it the future? If you tell me it goes against all fiat control, I’m listening. Why don't you go read the whitepaper so you actually understand what it is and how it works , instead of me having to beat a dead horse to someone who doesn't even understand the technology. It's too much to type. Yes I believe it will eventually render tradition fiat systems obsolete. Not in its current form , we need side chains and lightning networks , we are probably 5 years off from that, and 7-10 from major adoption phase . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75964861 United States 12/10/2017 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is full of clueless retards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902267 cryptos ARE the future. If you understand what blockchain actually is you'd realize its the most secure and amazing form of currency ever created. it's the fucking future. Thanks for the clueless assumption in my apparent misunderstanding. What basis is your “currency” anchored to, and how is it the future? If you tell me it goes against all fiat control, I’m listening. Why don't you go read the whitepaper so you actually understand what it is and how it works , instead of me having to beat a dead horse to someone who doesn't even understand the technology. It's too much to type. Yes I believe it will eventually render tradition fiat systems obsolete. Not in its current form , we need side chains and lightning networks , we are probably 5 years off from that, and 7-10 from major adoption phase . DOnt you think the rothschilds could just buy all the bitcoin that exist ? how do we know they havent already i mean minus the ones on your precious usb of course ? They got trillions how much bitcoin is there ? you do the math what was the value of all the bitcoins one year ago ? get it ? |
Chugiakian
(OP) User ID: 14505991 United States 12/10/2017 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read somewhere that there are 3 fatal pitfalls with a digital bit-coin Quoting: Chugiakian #1 In If you think the Global elite bankers are going to sit on the sidelines and let this take over, you are crazy. They are playing us all as fools. #2 No Guarantees Exchanges have already been hacked and stolen #3 No Inherent Value Just like there is no longer any value in the Fiat Currency we currently use, there is certainly no value in ones and zero's sitting in cyberspace..... Tell me, what is a fair price? A price based on wild speculation?? If you think The Powers that Think They Be are going to sit on the sidelines and let this take over, you are fooling yourself. they are behind this all the way. Just go look at the cover of the Economist magazine from 1988 (unable to paste link from silver doctors commentary)..... /headlines/world-news/world-cryptocurrency-not-gold-backed-yuan-in-light-of-the-1988-economist-magazine/ Snip "It is a growth-crippling prospect. Pencil in the phoenix for around 2018, and welcome it when it comes." Is the value of Bitcoin the value of the flood of monies into the coin? Is this what it is worth? Pure Speculation! Money that floods into these coins at a break neck speed, is this what gives it its value? This is the stuff panzi schemes from the 80's were made of, (except now they live in digital world), those who get in early rake in the money from all the suckers, er people who got in late. They tout how they got rich (off OPM) and are living fat n happy now. WOO HOO - Good for you, for getting in and getting out. Raking in profits on the suckers who came in behind you. Do you truly wear that badge of honor proudly? Do you look down on others who didn't get in? Couldn't get in? Or had the sense that something wasn't quite right with it? A digital drug, intoxicating to those who jumped in early, those watching and are tempted to jump in now, and to those in control. The Committee Called "They" call this a currency, Why? How is that possible? How can there be price stability in a digital currency that has no limits and that is not backed by anything tangible? The true definition of currency is to exchange one medium for another. Is this not suppose to be with some sort of stability? If the value of the dollar right now is tagged to this crypto currency, then we are truly witnessing the de-value of our money right before our eyes. For every dollar that floods into this 'currency', sucks the life blood away from the masses and makes people more dependent on a digital world and now not only a slave to the debt system we currently live in, but now a become a digital slave, more intwined in the wicked web we all helped weave.... You should be proud of your action. We all know wallets can be stolen, hacked and now the pickpockets can do it while sitting in the comfort of their chair. Help usher in the new age of coin, it will be implanted on the back of your hand soon enough, where else would it be safe? But what do I know, this is just my 2 cents which, in my opinion, is worth more than any digital crypto coin... Put your Trust in Jesus, the End is near.... IMHO Same applies to fiat paper in your pocket. I have considered this as well. Chugiakian |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74888366 United States 12/10/2017 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is full of clueless retards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902267 cryptos ARE the future. If you understand what blockchain actually is you'd realize its the most secure and amazing form of currency ever created. it's the fucking future. Thanks for the clueless assumption in my apparent misunderstanding. What basis is your “currency” anchored to, and how is it the future? If you tell me it goes against all fiat control, I’m listening. Why don't you go read the whitepaper so you actually understand what it is and how it works , instead of me having to beat a dead horse to someone who doesn't even understand the technology. It's too much to type. Yes I believe it will eventually render tradition fiat systems obsolete. Not in its current form , we need side chains and lightning networks , we are probably 5 years off from that, and 7-10 from major adoption phase . DOnt you think the rothschilds could just buy all the bitcoin that exist ? how do we know they havent already i mean minus the ones on your precious usb of course ? They got trillions how much bitcoin is there ? you do the math what was the value of all the bitcoins one year ago ? get it ? Coinbase is the number one app on the Apple Store now , get it? do you see the volume being traded daily on the exchanges. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71165410 United States 12/10/2017 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There IS inherent value in fiat currency. A dollar bill is a "Federal Reserve Note." The Federal Reserve LENT a dollar to the US Treasury, and holding the Note means that the US Government has to pay you back. The US Government has a military that can steal resources if it needs to pay back those loans. That's a guaranty. THERE IS NEVER ANY MONEY PRINTING. |
Chuckles
User ID: 74780425 United States 12/10/2017 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree with you. I watch a video about the Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie crypto currencies and what all the flap about that robot getting "citizenship" in Saudi Arabia...It's about A.I. taking over--it was very alarming and I hope it isn't true. Otherwise, we are at the beginning of THE MATRIX...and we ALL know how that ended up! O'sCookie This, this, THIS. I cannot comprehend with even ONE microscopic piece of brian matter why folks are flocking to digital “bits”. Whether tangible assets, or crypto dreams, it’s all gone soon. Why...just, why? PURE GREED Boom. That’s /thread. But seriously, I’m not being antagonistic at all - I love to debate. However this is truly one subject that I simply and flat out find humorous. I hear how many on this site are against the handlers and fiat currency, yet buy into a new and unknown “digital fantasy world” to then trade in for...drumroll...fiat currency! Indeed, greed. You don't understand blockchain or tangle. Wealth is not greed. You are grumpy, scared and ignorant... three of my least favorite starting points. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -G.K. Chesterton "Look at me... being all human." -Android 17 |
Chugiakian
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74848600 United States 12/10/2017 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh look, mainstream adoption of a value holding medium whose actual value to can be turned off by some weaponized hacking of servers and/or a low level EMP over a giga-data center somewhere in texas. Oh and did I mention they're going to use it to overleverage themselves and get rich?... until whoever designed this whole system to fail on purpose in order to damage the whole financial system pulls the plug. But don't worry, it'll be years before that. They need to get as many nation states involved first to ensure the over-leveraging is at a point where, when they do turn off the exchanges and "ligntning networks" and whatnot, it'll be impossible for anyone to pay off any debt anywhere, and cause the collapse of modern fiscal society in the process. But ya, it's the future... built by no one knows who and who's name in Japanese reads like a coy cryptogram of "we;re smarter than you all capitalist pigs" But ya, buy in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75577701 Canada 12/10/2017 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The greater fool theory states that the price of an object is determined not by its intrinsic value, but rather by irrational beliefs and expectations of market participants. A price can be justified by a rational buyer under the belief that another party is willing to pay an even higher price. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
awakesouls
User ID: 75153475 United States 12/10/2017 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I jumped to the end... has anyone mentioned how Puerto Rico identified a fatal flaw? The storm wiped out 90% of the electricity and internet on the island. If crypto is the currency, how do people buy and sell when there is no power or internet? |