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Can you ask him what he thinks of Peter E. Kim?
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to be honest thats uninteresting,

about as fun as an interview with a retired Gardner.
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Thread: Are you prepared for a EMP? How would you survive?
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to be honest thats uninteresting,

about as fun as an interview with a retired Gardner.
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you should have heard my radio interview with "Pattie" Bressard... chuckle
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Is sitting in a car the same as a Faraday Cage?
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Why cant the use produce transformers, why do they have to be sourced from china?
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Why cant the USA*
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Chinesse dont have a dole, you work cheap or starve, and everyone competes for any job in a owners market, nit to mention the prisonnslave factory system..
American lawyers have made dirty industries uncomoetitive.
These transformers are very specialized and are simply much cheaper to import than to make once all the peripheral issues are taken into consideration.
Yeah, they could be made but the infrastructure cost would be relatively prohibitive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75754225


Do our electrical companies keep a supply of transformers to replace whole grid. Of course, guess their want be vehicles, or gas to transport workers even if we had all needed supplies.
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Do keep a spare whole house kit oe even afurnace just laying around?
neither do they.
They admit they dont stock major replacement components and.estimate there are no likely replacements forthcoming.
This is what happens when you rely on your enemy to stay alive
Return to commercisl power as you know it is unlikely, ever.
If your piwer goes out it is probable that it is only the very first step in a program of invasion and destruction and will be exploited by anyone who wants to benefit from taking what they want.
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storage is prcey
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Cryptome.org/emp.htm
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Is sitting in a car the same as a Faraday Cage?
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What is a window?
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www.tfd.chalmers.se/~valeri/EMP.html
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Eventually you realize that continuing your brand of civilization requires stability, cooperation and security at every step of the process.
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Firstly I been sayng what said for 10 years already so far, and its only looking worse for the peeps that have, unlike me, no fucking clue.
Secondly We could use some real shielding answers in the applied sciences and realistic tech about reducing damage from longline surge transmission not the bullshit being floated around thats misleading and innaccurate, After all his real boss is us, not the selfish elites who will hog, and I do mean hog all public assets for their own surviva aftermgiving the rest of us up for dead to those that want us dead.

You might also remind him the fact that those that allowed this to happen should be the ones to pay for it not us that trusted them.
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shielding answers in the applied sciences and realistic tech about reducing damage from longline surge transmission

I will be sure to ask this.
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What is the most likely situation with vehicles being disabled. Any tips to avoid this? Thanks, OP.
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I will be asking this question
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Transformers grounded to the grid are said to fry. Will electric motors and generators with copper coils also fry?
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I will be asking this question. thanks
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Question

Is it true all transformers running will blow with EMP and since they come from China we will not be able to replace them all for two YEARS?
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I will be using this question. thanks
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I want to know what he has personally done to protect his family from the aftermath of an EMP.
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Excellent question i will ask for sure.
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Can we as a country preemptively shut it down before the emp and then bring it back online?
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never thought of that but it just might work. I will ask.
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Ask him can he explain why he thinks its only a question of "when it happens." Is it because he thinks it will be man made (nuke, terrorism, emp bomb, war) or natural phenomena (Sun, CME etc)?
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yes I will clarify how he is so certain it will happen.
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Okay,I'm gonna post a link and you can get his name from that so actually I didn't give it directly.

[link to www.aiaa.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World



If it's the first guy referenced, his twitter acct is @DaveMajumdar -- we'll take all good info we can possibly get.
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the Gentelmans last name is Bounds I will be speaking with. If you look at the link it gives his name. For some reason this guy worked for NASA but, I guess was never seen or could be found in the system.
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I am aware that the military uses hardened IC chips both for radiological and emp overload. Most of the Starfish a Prime damage to Hawaii was to
Long line connected devices/one reason was that we had FEW IC controlled systems at the time. Can he give specific estimates as to probable damage to independent non- long line connected systems such as automobiles, battery powered radios not connected to long transmission lines or antennas?
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A variation of this question has been posted in relation to long line transmissions damage. Also how it will effect non long line electronics such as personal items, vehicle etc.

I will most certainly ask this question.
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Homebrewed faraday protection.
What actually will work?
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I will for sure be asking about Faraday cages.
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Firstly I been sayng what said for 10 years already so far, and its only looking worse for the peeps that have, unlike me, no fucking clue.
Secondly We could use some real shielding answers in the applied sciences and realistic tech about reducing damage from longline surge transmission not the bullshit being floated around thats misleading and innaccurate, After all his real boss is us, not the selfish elites who will hog, and I do mean hog all public assets for their own surviva aftermgiving the rest of us up for dead to those that want us dead.

You might also remind him the fact that those that allowed this to happen should be the ones to pay for it not us that trusted them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75754225



shielding answers in the applied sciences and realistic tech about reducing damage from longline surge transmission

I will be sure to ask this.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Meanwhile I have posted some links above to informative pages that appear legit.
This MIGHT give the uninitiated a sense of the scope of the problem and the complexity of the task of hardening give the range and variables if threat.
IF you can build a thick copper capsule without any external wiring or plumbing or conductive ducting deep enough you should be good under most conditions.
Basically put another way most of you have no hope of any effective deterrence its an all float or all sink together and whatever survival lifeboats launched, so to speak, dont have a seat for you.
Fema has predicted about 90% loss and none of the money you send in seems to be applied to insuring your safety although its being spent on someone.
This is a prime example of an ounce of prevention being worth 6.02 x 10 to the 23rd power metric tonnes of cure, yet not even one ounce of prevention is in your future on your behalf.
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I don't know if this questions has been asked already. It's late here.

My question if this threat is real has been know for many years (and from what I've read would only cost 2 billion) then why hasn't the grid already been protected?

Why wait?
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I will be sure to ask this.
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


I have a similar background and worked with SCADA networks (which control power grids). I also worked with nuclear physicists, the kind that are familiar with nuclear weapons.

The effects of a nuclear EMP on our power grid are greatly exaggerated. A Carrington Event (solar storm) is more plausible in taking out power grids.

Our national power grid and other critical infrastructures are more susceptible to a cyber attack than EMP.
 Quoting: Agent MIB



You are exactly right in what you said. Mr. Bounds is/was a Cyber Security expert. Based on what I've been told so far. That is what Bounds is expecting to take out the grid is a Cyber Attack.
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An readonabke explanation of waveguide attenuation dynamics at sheild penetration sites would be nice along with details of convertable off the shelf materials and optimal cross and longitudinal sectional profiles or is a simple 4 length for 1 diameter ratio and cylinder effective at all sheilding thicknesses.
Also what about tuning cutoff frequencies.
Also, what about Q factor and how to deal with that issue?
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Just to clarify what should be obvious that the predicted 90% loss in one year is essentially due to preventable neglect, inattention, ignorance, age and informity and predation, even under the best option FROM YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS either as desperate mob or as a reconstituted alternative restructured quazigovermental organization from a number of domestic or even foreign sources. These will not be there to help, but to take whats available for themselves.

It is of course unnecessary but it is what its become because it was purposely designed to be that way.
You need to wonder who intends to survive this after leaving the rest of you to deal with the consequences.
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Can you ask him what he thinks of Peter E. Kim?
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Can you offer some more insight to this Peter if I am going to ask about him.
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


I have a similar background and worked with SCADA networks (which control power grids). I also worked with nuclear physicists, the kind that are familiar with nuclear weapons.

The effects of a nuclear EMP on our power grid are greatly exaggerated. A Carrington Event (solar storm) is more plausible in taking out power grids.

Our national power grid and other critical infrastructures are more susceptible to a cyber attack than EMP.
 Quoting: Agent MIB



You are exactly right in what you said. Mr. Bounds is/was a Cyber Security expert. Based on what I've been told so far. That is what Bounds is expecting to take out the grid is a Cyber Attack.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Theres more than just hemps, there are other, easier cheap threats such as microwave bombs or flux compression that may be deployed by agents out of a breifcase and the grid, interlinked as it will sequentially collapse with several attacks at strategic nodes.

now that these devices have become widely available, they xan be deployed in a fashion to hide the source or more likely to misdirect to an innocent source.
Retaliation will end up being impossible to initiate with any certainty and likely to accelerate the process further.
For cultures large and small that prey on others with jo shame or limits EMP is their perfect weapon due to its ease and simplicity to initiate and hide the source.
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


I have a similar background and worked with SCADA networks (which control power grids). I also worked with nuclear physicists, the kind that are familiar with nuclear weapons.

The effects of a nuclear EMP on our power grid are greatly exaggerated. A Carrington Event (solar storm) is more plausible in taking out power grids.

Our national power grid and other critical infrastructures are more susceptible to a cyber attack than EMP.
 Quoting: Agent MIB



You are exactly right in what you said. Mr. Bounds is/was a Cyber Security expert. Based on what I've been told so far. That is what Bounds is expecting to take out the grid is a Cyber Attack.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Theres more than just hemps, there are other, easier cheap threats such as microwave bombs or flux compression that may be deployed by agents out of a breifcase and the grid, interlinked as it will sequentially collapse with several attacks at strategic nodes.

now that these devices have become widely available, they xan be deployed in a fashion to hide the source or more likely to misdirect to an innocent source.
Retaliation will end up being impossible to initiate with any certainty and likely to accelerate the process further.
For cultures large and small that prey on others with jo shame or limits EMP is their perfect weapon due to its ease and simplicity to initiate and hide the source.
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to be honest thats uninteresting,

about as fun as an interview with a retired Gardner.
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you should have heard my radio interview with "Pattie" Bressard... chuckle
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


I have a similar background and worked with SCADA networks (which control power grids). I also worked with nuclear physicists, the kind that are familiar with nuclear weapons.

The effects of a nuclear EMP on our power grid are greatly exaggerated. A Carrington Event (solar storm) is more plausible in taking out power grids.

Our national power grid and other critical infrastructures are more susceptible to a cyber attack than EMP.
 Quoting: Agent MIB



You are exactly right in what you said. Mr. Bounds is/was a Cyber Security expert. Based on what I've been told so far. That is what Bounds is expecting to take out the grid is a Cyber Attack.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


There were many trial attacks against both power and communication grids in South Bay area a few years ago by covert ops teams. Cutting fiber lines and sniper fire taking out transformers (transformers lost PCB coolant due to gunfire) at key substations. They know what and where to hit. Link for your enjoyment:

[link to www.wsj.com (secure)]
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