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***UPDATE***MEETING W/ RETIRED USAF, NSA, NASA CYBER SECURITY EXPERT

 
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Nuke in atmosphere would fry every microchip beneath without killing a soul from blast itself. Common knowledge.
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Not necessarily, dependent on a variety of conditions.
Energy deposistion is not uniform and much depends on connection to antennas and varieties of potential sheilding might be available at the time.

the biggest issue with Emp probability was that before the offending party couldnt really hide, and could be retaliated against by a process of exclusion.

With proliferation to nonstate and rogue states and sterile launch technology from various sources it becomes feasable to launch and hude and survive in the crowd of potentials, enough of which prevent effective or certain retaliation.
This last option is where we are today and launch capability is available to anyone with one or more pallets of gold or American dollars pushed out of US or other aircraft.
Needless to say a false flag is almost equally as certain, confusing things even more due to intentional misrepresentation.

have a nice day
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Notice dude saying flux,that means magnetism for the dimwitted.
Sometimes boss,you gotta talk chimp speak to us to hit a home run.
Thing is,we got 300ish nexrads with 1million watts per nexrad,with magnetic fields coming off those nexrads microwave.
So the moment turd nation lauches at us and we shoot it down at the speed of light.the cone paths from the microwave beams will create a magnetic pulse.we will be emping our own shit and blaming it on the nuke.when really it was the nexrad pulse that did it.so all the bad guy has to do is launch a dummy missile and sit back and watch us fry our own stuff.

Since its line of site,youre looking at 100 miles wide,by 400 miles long of burnt wire smell on the planet surface.
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160 nexrads admitted to
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Is it true all transformers running will blow with EMP and since they come from China we will not be able to replace them all for two YEARS?
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If you have any questions you would like me to ask this man I will gladly do it for you, then post the response on here.
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I find it most difficult to believe that the electrical companies have not fixed say 300 some odd locations to limit the scope of an EMP. It would be insanity if they have not. You people just don't make any sense.
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Good Afternoon GLP Family.

I wanted to let you know I am meeting with a gentleman who has a quite a lengthy resume in Cyber Security.

The reason for our meeting is to discuss. The Vulnerability of our electrical grid and or EMP detonation in the atmosphere.

Mr. Bounds explained that it isn't if it happens but, When...


I am inviting my GLP family if you have any questions that you would like to ask. then please drop them here. I meet with him Oct. 30th at 8:30am so they have to been in by then.

He asked I don't post his bio. I will post just a portion of it.

he served in the U.S. Air Force as a computer-communications manager, certified instructor, and key liaison on multiple special duty assignments with the newly formed U.S. Space Command and U.S. Air Force Space Command. His last military
assignment was with the White House Communications Agency at The White House, where he worked within arm’s length of Presidents Bush and Clinton in a non-political capacity. He served on“Presidential Advance Details” and managed mission critical computer-communications for the President,Vice President, U.S. Secret Service, The White House, Air Force One, Marine One, and Camp David Presidential Retreat. After the Air Force, then NASA acquired him.
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Please tell us the correct algorithms of...Backdoor RSA encryption, according to NSA specs on just 3 devices
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If you have any questions you would like me to ask this man I will gladly do it for you, then post the response on here.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


I find it most difficult to believe that the electrical companies have not fixed say 300 some odd locations to limit the scope of an EMP. It would be insanity if they have not. You people just don't make any sense.
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Among other squadrons in the USAF is, allegedly a TBM squadron
thats thise huge Tunnel Boring Machines like the kind that make miles long caves/bunkers in secret and hollows out mountains.
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Maybe you can buy one of your own and hollow out a mountain for yourself?
I didnt think so
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Is it true all transformers running will blow with EMP and since they come from China we will not be able to replace them all for two YEARS?
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That's what fema says, nothing but meth, crack or bud made in the US any more, at least for the consumer
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Maybe I should have put in the Heading he was some kind of EMP specialist.
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EMP specialist?

So he's a Scambo instead of a Rambo.
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Why cant the use produce transformers, why do they have to be sourced from china?
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Why cant the use produce transformers, why do they have to be sourced from china?
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Why cant the USA*
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Catastrophic failure of micron and nanometer scale electronics as a result of EMP is an effect limited to close proximity to thermonuclear detonation. Serious inductive effects are limited to close range high yield devices.
Tactical nuclear devices could not induce enough current in unshielded (HEMP shielded) equipment to destroy them unless they detonated in very close proximity. If you weren't in a properly constructed bunker, electromagnetic induction would be the very least of your worries.

IOW.. EMP fear porn is absolute bullshit. Worry about being evaporated first, unless of course you have a military that poses sufficient threat to draw the use of large scale nuclear weapons and have a bunker?
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Why cant the use produce transformers, why do they have to be sourced from china?
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Why cant the USA*
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because they have been conspiring to irretrievably
lock up into the Globalist Economic Web,
and now there's no turning back.

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Why cant the use produce transformers, why do they have to be sourced from china?
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Why cant the USA*
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Chinesse dont have a dole, you work cheap or starve, and everyone competes for any job in a owners market, nit to mention the prisonnslave factory system..
American lawyers have made dirty industries uncomoetitive.
These transformers are very specialized and are simply much cheaper to import than to make once all the peripheral issues are taken into consideration.
Yeah, they could be made but the infrastructure cost would be relatively prohibitive.
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What is the best advice they can give for an average citizen to prepare for an EMP?
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Mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of having to resort to cannibalism.
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Catastrophic failure of micron and nanometer scale electronics as a result of EMP is an effect limited to close proximity to thermonuclear detonation. Serious inductive effects are limited to close range high yield devices.
Tactical nuclear devices could not induce enough current in unshielded (HEMP shielded) equipment to destroy them unless they detonated in very close proximity. If you weren't in a properly constructed bunker, electromagnetic induction would be the very least of your worries.

IOW.. EMP fear porn is absolute bullshit. Worry about being evaporated first, unless of course you have a military that poses sufficient threat to draw the use of large scale nuclear weapons and have a bunker?
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Tactical means localized or a theater munition, intentionallyl, small enough to put in a #10 can or less

Thats not what would be used any more than you'd choose to use a hand grenade to sink a battleship.
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Thankyou for the nexrad correction,yes it maybe 160.
Line power in bristol virginia can build transformers but the price is like triple.they build big transformers for mining and are basically the same.
We stockpile some but they are in yards centralized around the country.usually two day delivery time.
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What is the best advice they can give for an average citizen to prepare for an EMP?
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Mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of having to resort to cannibalism.
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Stable edible cooking oil, salt, and appropriate various spices and optional garnishes will be worth their weight in gold, again.

On the positive side, food will come looking for you.
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What size warhead would have to be exploded over the central USA in order to affect the entire country? Is that even feasible?

Are there enough independent power segments to stay in operation if only part of the country is affected by an EMP - in other words, would any part of the country avoid the domino effect?

Is the NK satellite that currently flies over the USA capable of carrying a weapon that could impact a large part of the country? How large of an area?

Would the explosion of such a weapon be easily visible to the naked eye, especially during the daytime?

Would close-to-shore submarine-fired rockets reach the altitude necessary to produce wide-spread EMP effects?
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Maybe i should NOT be lazy and google this, but have we not done numerous numerous AIR BURST tests in Nevada over many many years?

WHY did these NOT affect our Power grid? IS there some sorta difference? I know we tested some big nukes, in the air, in ground, on top of the ground etc...

So why do these "tests" not affect anything? Even with 30 year old tested kilotons I am sure they were MORE powerful than the threat from NKG ?

OK I am off to the Google Machine, but if anyone has a quick and dirty answer as to why our testing never affected power grid but Lil Kim can?

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What size warhead would have to be exploded over the central USA in order to affect the entire country? Is that even feasible?

Are there enough independent power segments to stay in operation if only part of the country is affected by an EMP - in other words, would any part of the country avoid the domino effect?

Is the NK satellite that currently flies over the USA capable of carrying a weapon that could impact a large part of the country? How large of an area?

Would the explosion of such a weapon be easily visible to the naked eye, especially during the daytime?

Would close-to-shore submarine-fired rockets reach the altitude necessary to produce wide-spread EMP effects?
 Quoting: justanothergranny


Maybe i should NOT be lazy and google this, but have we not done numerous numerous AIR BURST tests in Nevada over many many years?

WHY did these NOT affect our Power grid? IS there some sorta difference? I know we tested some big nukes, in the air, in ground, on top of the ground etc...

So why do these "tests" not affect anything? Even with 30 year old tested kilotons I am sure they were MORE powerful than the threat from NKG ?

OK I am off to the Google Machine, but if anyone has a quick and dirty answer as to why our testing never affected power grid but Lil Kim can?

~DF
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Too small, too low, too remote for line of sight to affect anything.
There was no microprocesser control of everything either.

Electrics so small and so packed tightly in layers a few atoms thickmthat they are measured in angstroms will melt from almost anything over millivolt power levels
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I want to know what he has personally done to protect his family from the aftermath of an EMP.
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I want to know what he has personally done to protect his family from the aftermath of an EMP.
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If not given access to the sanctuary, he for sure is visiting lofs of flea markets and craigslust buying certain copper containers to convert into useful devises as well as buying substitute old fashioned human powered tech like steam engines
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Eat the varmints first.then the neighbors,then the wildlife,save the wild pigs and fish for last!
If im gonna be free, let it be with bacon on the range!
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Can we as a country preemptively shut it down before the emp and then bring it back online?
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Can we as a country preemptively shut it down before the emp and then bring it back online?
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Yeah it should be announced in all the papers, they wouldnt want to be sneaky now, that wouldnt be cricket.
rolls eyes...

And thats why we cant have nice things, like territorial and cultural integrity
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Ask him can he explain why he thinks its only a question of "when it happens." Is it because he thinks it will be man made (nuke, terrorism, emp bomb, war) or natural phenomena (Sun, CME etc)?
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Okay,I'm gonna post a link and you can get his name from that so actually I didn't give it directly.

[link to www.aiaa.org (secure)]
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If it's the first guy referenced, his twitter acct is @DaveMajumdar -- we'll take all good info we can possibly get.
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Ask him can he explain why he thinks its only a question of "when it happens." Is it because he thinks it will be man made (nuke, terrorism, emp bomb, war) or natural phenomena (Sun, CME etc)?
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So, your parents had no survinging children?
Condolences.
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I want to know what he has personally done to protect his family from the aftermath of an EMP.
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I am aware that the military uses hardened IC chips both for radiological and emp overload. Most of the Starfish a Prime damage to Hawaii was to
Long line connected devices/one reason was that we had FEW IC controlled systems at the time. Can he give specific estimates as to probable damage to independent non- long line connected systems such as automobiles, battery powered radios not connected to long transmission lines or antennas?





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