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***UPDATE***MEETING W/ RETIRED USAF, NSA, NASA CYBER SECURITY EXPERT

 
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Theres one side of the equation,now ask him how to shield against magnetic pulses,as each spark will have a magnetic pulse also!
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Good Afternoon GLP Family.

I wanted to let you know I am meeting with a gentleman who has a quite a lengthy resume in Cyber Security.

The reason for our meeting is to discuss. The Vulnerability of our electrical grid and or EMP detonation in the atmosphere.

Mr. Bounds explained that it isn't if it happens but, When...


I am inviting my GLP family if you have any questions that you would like to ask. then please drop them here. I meet with him Oct. 30th at 8:30am so they have to been in by then.

He asked I don't post his bio. I will post just a portion of it.

he served in the U.S. Air Force as a computer-communications manager, certified instructor, and key liaison on multiple special duty assignments with the newly formed U.S. Space Command and U.S. Air Force Space Command. His last military
assignment was with the White House Communications Agency at The White House, where he worked within arm’s length of Presidents Bush and Clinton in a non-political capacity. He served on“Presidential Advance Details” and managed mission critical computer-communications for the President,Vice President, U.S. Secret Service, The White House, Air Force One, Marine One, and Camp David Presidential Retreat. After the Air Force, then NASA acquired him.
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Instead of one large nuke would it be feasible for a small rogue nation to time and launch 4 to 5 lower powered nukes riding scud missiles from both coasts of the USA with boats several miles out and bring down the grid and effect most electronics?
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well, ask him: when are he and
all his little friends gonna do something.

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This may sound like a "green" question from someone who has very little knowledge on this subject, but I have wondered about the underground bunkers that have been built all over the globe. Can you ask your guest if he can shed any light on why these bunkers were built. More specifically, were they built to safeguard certain groups of the population after an EMP attack, or were they built more for a nuclear attack? Secondly, again probably coming across as another silly question, but I do want to ask this: Do we already have colonies constructed on other planets as break-away locations following an EMP or other disaster as well? Thank you.
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Ask all the questions you want, whatever answers he give are just opinion. Any one who says they know what would happen is full of shit.
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I agree with your statement some opinions you weigh heavily more on because of their knowledge. Knowledge is life
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Is there any tech available to potential enemies that can generate an EMP without the use of a nuclear weapon? Obviously there are smaller scale devices, but I'm referring to something that would generate a pulse on the same scale as that which would be generated by an upper atmospheric nuke.
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Firstly I been sayng what said for 10 years already so far, and its only looking worse for the peeps that have, unlike me, no fucking clue.
Secondly We could use some real shielding answers in the applied sciences and realistic tech about reducing damage from longline surge transmission not the bullshit being floated around thats misleading and innaccurate, After all his real boss is us, not the selfish elites who will hog, and I do mean hog all public assets for their own surviva aftermgiving the rest of us up for dead to those that want us dead.

You might also remind him the fact that those that allowed this to happen should be the ones to pay for it not us that trusted them.
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Is there any tech available to potential enemies that can generate an EMP without the use of a nuclear weapon? Obviously there are smaller scale devices, but I'm referring to something that would generate a pulse on the same scale as that which would be generated by an upper atmospheric nuke.
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God, flux field compression with basic electronic componenrs and hi explosives is well known, jesus, do some research before wasting everyones time
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
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Tell him he who strikes first wins. He who sits on his ass has flat ass.
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protip: an emp strike on the us would have exactly the same outcome as a nuclear attack on the usa. instant suicide. the us would launch a nuclear attack on north korea instantly. and it would be massive.
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Good Afternoon GLP Family.

I wanted to let you know I am meeting with a gentleman who has a quite a lengthy resume in Cyber Security.

The reason for our meeting is to discuss. The Vulnerability of our electrical grid and or EMP detonation in the atmosphere.

Mr. Bounds explained that it isn't if it happens but, When...


I am inviting my GLP family if you have any questions that you would like to ask. then please drop them here. I meet with him Oct. 30th at 8:30am so they have to been in by then.

He asked I don't post his bio. I will post just a portion of it.

he served in the U.S. Air Force as a computer-communications manager, certified instructor, and key liaison on multiple special duty assignments with the newly formed U.S. Space Command and U.S. Air Force Space Command. His last military
assignment was with the White House Communications Agency at The White House, where he worked within arm’s length of Presidents Bush and Clinton in a non-political capacity. He served on“Presidential Advance Details” and managed mission critical computer-communications for the President,Vice President, U.S. Secret Service, The White House, Air Force One, Marine One, and Camp David Presidential Retreat. After the Air Force, then NASA acquired him.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Instead of one large nuke would it be feasible for a small rogue nation to time and launch 4 to 5 lower powered nukes riding scud missiles from both coasts of the USA with boats several miles out and bring down the grid and effect most electronics?
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You dont need 4 or 5, you just need one.
Everything is readily available and has been for decades

Transmission is line of sight in every direction but follows magnetic flux lines to the ground and up to10 ft into it.
It is, of course dependent on size of the explosion and the degree of charged particle production and strength of the magnetic field among other things.

You xan find this shit out on your own in a few reasonable searches
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protip: an emp strike on the us would have exactly the same outcome as a nuclear attack on the usa. instant suicide. the us would launch a nuclear attack on north korea instantly. and it would be massive.
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No, the casualties would be minimal in a cohesive, orderly and law abiding country that took precautions.

I wonder why all manner of chaos and division g
has been promoted for decades?
It prevents preparation, defense and survival for those affected, thats why.
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1. Are copper wire motor coils, such as car starter coils, alternator coils, ignition coils and generator/genset coils susceptible to HEMP damage?

2. Is a Faraday cage/EMR shielding better if grounded or ungrounded?

3. How deep underground (or buried) must an unshielded electronic device be in order to be impervious to HEMP, assuming no conductors close the gap?
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
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Probably because he won't answer any, probably because he thinks he works not for the American public.
Go ahead and ask, what manner of long line fuse or surge protection will work other than cutting every wire and pipe connection and packing the space with a high diaelectric insulator with a generous gap.
PROBABLY, EXCEPT FOR various specific and conditionalTEST RESULTS I KNOW AS MUCH AS HE DOES, AT LEAST.
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Nuke in atmosphere would fry every microchip beneath without killing a soul from blast itself. Common knowledge.
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Wow that is a lot of questions. I appreciate you responding and the 5 stars Thank you so much.

I don't want to limit you to much but we only have a set amount of time I get to spend with him.

if you had to narrow it down to just 5 questions of of the list what would they be.
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Ask him what he knows about the secret space program, US navy in space etc and the tech hf

I am almost certain it exists as i watched two stationary "stars" light up super bright in sync then when dimmed again one moved to the other and they moved of together out of sight. I even had the resident Nasa guy on ayts (employee & press guy) private message me saying i had seen something special and he wished he had seen it. So if it wasnt aliens then it was us hf

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1. Are copper wire motor coils, such as car starter coils, alternator coils, ignition coils and generator/genset coils susceptible to HEMP damage?

2. Is a Faraday cage/EMR shielding better if grounded or ungrounded?

3. How deep underground (or buried) must an unshielded electronic device be in order to be impervious to HEMP, assuming no conductors close the gap?
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1 yes, direct energy absorpttion and heat can destroy coils in addition to whateve antenna is attached, ie wires ir other conductordepending on size, energy deposition per unit of absorptive surface .
Any unsheilde microprocess contros will probably fry putting the device out of commission.
2 dependent on size and construction and energy per unit of surface, conductance and potential for generating internal eddy currents
3 somewhat dependent on conditions and size but 10 ft is a start.
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
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Probably because he won't answer any, probably because he thinks he works not for the American public.
Go ahead and ask, what manner of long line fuse or surge protection will work other than cutting every wire and pipe connection and packing the space with a high diaelectric insulator with a generous gap.
PROBABLY, EXCEPT FOR various specific and conditionalTEST RESULTS I KNOW AS MUCH AS HE DOES, AT LEAST.
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I am very surprised no one has a serious question for him yet.
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Probably because he won't answer any, probably because he thinks he works not for the American public.
Go ahead and ask, what manner of long line fuse or surge protection will work other than cutting every wire and pipe connection and packing the space with a high diaelectric insulator with a generous gap.
PROBABLY, EXCEPT FOR various specific and conditionalTEST RESULTS I KNOW AS MUCH AS HE DOES, AT LEAST.
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By tbat I only mean whatever he would be honest about, but these guys dont talk to the peeps because they believe they will end up inside, not outside, but the real question will be whether they do so as Aunty or as MasterBlaster.
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1. Are copper wire motor coils, such as car starter coils, alternator coils, ignition coils and generator/genset coils susceptible to HEMP damage?

2. Is a Faraday cage/EMR shielding better if grounded or ungrounded?

3. How deep underground (or buried) must an unshielded electronic device be in order to be impervious to HEMP, assuming no conductors close the gap?
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1 yes, direct energy absorpttion and heat can destroy coils in addition to whateve antenna is attached, ie wires ir other conductordepending on size, energy deposition per unit of absorptive surface .
Any unsheilde microprocess contros will probably fry putting the device out of commission.
2 dependent on size and construction and energy per unit of surface, conductance and potential for generating internal eddy currents
3 somewhat dependent on conditions and size but 10 ft is a start.
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Thanks
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What is the most likely situation with vehicles being disabled. Any tips to avoid this? Thanks, OP.
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Nuke in atmosphere would fry every microchip beneath without killing a soul from blast itself. Common knowledge.
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Not necessarily, dependent on a variety of conditions.
Energy deposistion is not uniform and much depends on connection to antennas and varieties of potential sheilding might be available at the time.

the biggest issue with Emp probability was that before the offending party couldnt really hide, and could be retaliated against by a process of exclusion.

With proliferation to nonstate and rogue states and sterile launch technology from various sources it becomes feasable to launch and hude and survive in the crowd of potentials, enough of which prevent effective or certain retaliation.
This last option is where we are today and launch capability is available to anyone with one or more pallets of gold or American dollars pushed out of US or other aircraft.
Needless to say a false flag is almost equally as certain, confusing things even more due to intentional misrepresentation.

have a nice day
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Notice dude saying flux,that means magnetism for the dimwitted.
Sometimes boss,you gotta talk chimp speak to us to hit a home run.
Thing is,we got 300ish nexrads with 1million watts per nexrad,with magnetic fields coming off those nexrads microwave.
So the moment turd nation lauches at us and we shoot it down at the speed of light.the cone paths from the microwave beams will create a magnetic pulse.we will be emping our own shit and blaming it on the nuke.when really it was the nexrad pulse that did it.so all the bad guy has to do is launch a dummy missile and sit back and watch us fry our own stuff.

Since its line of site,youre looking at 100 miles wide,by 400 miles long of burnt wire smell on the planet surface.
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Okay, welp, thanks for nothing.
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What is the most likely situation with vehicles being disabled. Any tips to avoid this? Thanks, OP.
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Model t or similar magneto crank start.
Or a Stanley steamer or similar mechanical steam powered vehicle
older 3s era farm tractors are probable surviving too if they crank start.
Bycycle.
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If you got a real hard on to emp,get a capacitor and a power supply.a coil of wire or a strait wire.short the wire.thats emp.
Since the voltage is low,the field is small.for a big field,get a van de graff generator and some badass capacitors and short a wire,your neighbor a mile away will wake from the grave.
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Notice dude saying flux,that means magnetism for the dimwitted.
Sometimes boss,you gotta talk chimp speak to us to hit a home run.
Thing is,we got 300ish nexrads with 1million watts per nexrad,with magnetic fields coming off those nexrads microwave.
So the moment turd nation lauches at us and we shoot it down at the speed of light.the cone paths from the microwave beams will create a magnetic pulse.we will be emping our own shit and blaming it on the nuke.when really it was the nexrad pulse that did it.so all the bad guy has to do is launch a dummy missile and sit back and watch us fry our own stuff.

Since its line of site,youre looking at 100 miles wide,by 400 miles long of burnt wire smell on the planet surface.
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Sometimes you just cant put 12 years of college science into small words, you have to expect those still behind need to catch the fuck up instead
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Notice dude saying flux,that means magnetism for the dimwitted.
Sometimes boss,you gotta talk chimp speak to us to hit a home run.
Thing is,we got 300ish nexrads with 1million watts per nexrad,with magnetic fields coming off those nexrads microwave.
So the moment turd nation lauches at us and we shoot it down at the speed of light.the cone paths from the microwave beams will create a magnetic pulse.we will be emping our own shit and blaming it on the nuke.when really it was the nexrad pulse that did it.so all the bad guy has to do is launch a dummy missile and sit back and watch us fry our own stuff.

Since its line of site,youre looking at 100 miles wide,by 400 miles long of burnt wire smell on the planet surface.
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Did he ever get straight answers while working at NASA(Never A Straight Answer)? ; )


Good Afternoon GLP Family.

I wanted to let you know I am meeting with a gentleman who has a quite a lengthy resume in Cyber Security.

The reason for our meeting is to discuss. The Vulnerability of our electrical grid and or EMP detonation in the atmosphere.

Mr. Bounds explained that it isn't if it happens but, When...


I am inviting my GLP family if you have any questions that you would like to ask. then please drop them here. I meet with him Oct. 30th at 8:30am so they have to been in by then.

He asked I don't post his bio. I will post just a portion of it.

he served in the U.S. Air Force as a computer-communications manager, certified instructor, and key liaison on multiple special duty assignments with the newly formed U.S. Space Command and U.S. Air Force Space Command. His last military
assignment was with the White House Communications Agency at The White House, where he worked within arm’s length of Presidents Bush and Clinton in a non-political capacity. He served on“Presidential Advance Details” and managed mission critical computer-communications for the President,Vice President, U.S. Secret Service, The White House, Air Force One, Marine One, and Camp David Presidential Retreat. After the Air Force, then NASA acquired him.
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Transformers grounded to the grid are said to fry. Will electric motors and generators with copper coils also fry?

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