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America Is Now In The Final Stage of Downfall, It's Collapse Time

 
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No we are doing great, NAFTA negotiations will be

finished on friday.. going great.


Republicans say they are there on tax cuts


and look how much trump is getting down while distracting

everybody with his tweets.



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Thanks, The United States of America,is in a renewal process, and all is well and getting betterer by the nano second. AMEN.Idol1
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To all of you Glass is Half Full people, you Eternal Optimists who are about to cry "Doom speaker, Conspiracy Theorist", I post this thread to point out the incontestable evidence unfolding right before all of our eyes that proves my point. No entity, no nation, no group of people, animals or anything else that lives in this plane of existence can avoid extinction once those that make up the unit turn on each other as predators and consume their own kind. We are now at the stage of degradation where there are far too many predators than prey in our society for it to survive much longer.

The "medical"/pharmaceutical industry no longer serves the purpose of healing the sick and the infirmed. They have turned into drug pushers and profit takers at the expense of those who can afford to pay and through political collusion. Last year I heard a radio commercial on a NYC station for a medical provider that proclaimed that "You would pay any price for one more day of life. For one more hour of life. For one more minute of life. So when your life is at stake choose US for your medical needs". My brother heard it as well a month or so later and neither of us could believe that their balls have grown so huge that this was the approach they are now taking to fleece us all out of our cash and assets.

The banksters, who have always profited from war and death, have now turned to collusion and outright fraud to openly fleece the American public out of their paychecks. Faking mortgages, creating fake accounts for profit and manipulating the government for massive cash bailouts has never before been such a problem.

The lawyers or course have never had any moral character and have and always will seek out any individual, group, or institution with income and/or assets on which to prey for profit, so this one is no surprise. Of course this now includes just about every lying sellout scumbag politician that no longer has to pretend to care for us and can concentrate on lining their own pockets and forcing us all to pay for all of their expenses and more. They have become perhaps the largest predator of the American public today. They are now above pretty much every "law" that they use to dominate our every day lives and own the lying, thieving Media to cover their tracks.

American business no longer searches out our needs to fill and thereby profit from. They have turned to forcing us to consume whatever cheap crap they can get from overseas and buy enough sellout politicians to insure bailouts and mandated purchases from us. And how about corporations are people too, remember?

Hollywood and the rest of the "entertainment" business repackages the same old crap in new cans while promoting sexual predation at just about every level of its many tentacles. In fact, pretty much all of the predator groups that feed on us not only want our income and our assets, but our "virginity" as well!

This simply cannot continue. Everyone is preyed upon by too many predators to escape very much longer. Those who spout lines of crap about how things are good and getting better serve only one purpose and that is to lull themselves and whoever is foolish enough to listen to them into a false state of security and promote the attitude of NOT CARING about fixing any of the problems. Too many people simply do not care and they do not care about anything at all. It is the perfect mindset for the prey to assume to allow for total predation upon the species by the parasites and predators that feed upon the herd. Enjoy every good day you have left. It will not go on forever.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Um, no.

America will survive. That's sort of a given.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75655002


You're so innocent. So sweet... ahhh... what a babe. You should have a little bunny as an avatar.
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Technically speaking, America WILL survive. The question that remains to be answered however is what exactly that might look like isn't it?
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While Cataclysm is certainly possibly I feel as bad as it is now things will not come to such a state, at least at this current time frame.

Things are too established to just crumble completely. Whoever is pulling the strings, you can insert your own word, clearly has things set up.

Most Humans on this planet are connected to Electronic devices.

Most Humans are so connected to these devices that they spend a vast majority of free time and work time using them.

Most Humans shop, play, and just about most other sensual experiences and stimulus is now either coming from or being used to obtain from electronic devices.

Yes. Downfall and Yes Collapse but I dont think we will be seeing buildings fall or riots in the streets.

We will just become even more engrossed and involved in our Electronic Screen Devices.

We are entering into a False Reality, and I believe the Collapse you speak of is simply the seeking to place Humans away from Reality and into a False Reality. A way in which to completely control the individual, the community, and the population entirely. No matter how much "Freedom" you are told you possess.

This to me is scarier than guns and bombs going off because its silent, its not really spoken about, and its already been so heavily pushed into the Human psyche that its almost impossible to escape.
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This what you describe is called the Matrix. They already showed everyone what the have in store for us. You seem surprised.
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America will survive. That's sort of a given.
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I'm sure the OP agrees with that. Except I don't believe he's referring to the survival of a piece of land, and in particular a geographic location that eventually won't be worth a damn.

Look at Puerto Rico. It has survived for centuries. It even survived a recent huge hurricane. But it's sort of who cares? Even before its current worse misery, it was a place that was largely a piece of junk, nothing to be proud of or truly happy in. Unless a person has low standards and is a masochist.

Same general idea applies to nations like Mexico, Venezuela, South Africa, Brazil, Vietnam, growing portions of Europe, growing portions of the US, including "Chicongo," Baltimore, Detroit, etc.




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No we are doing great, NAFTA negotiations will be

finished on friday.. going great.


Republicans say they are there on tax cuts


and look how much trump is getting down while distracting

everybody with his tweets.



[link to www.magapill.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75720844

Thanks, The United States of America,is in a renewal process, and all is well and getting betterer by the nano second. AMEN.Idol1
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Patience is a virtue.hf
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What scares the hoohaa out of me (and keeps me armed) are the tens of million in this nation who can't even understand the dialogue you are having and are more near animal or vegetable than human, and who will turn violent as soon as they are not fed.

Not all of them are the great masses of the unwashed.
Many are in alphabet agencies with training we can't get
and skills we will never have as civilians.
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To all of you Glass is Half Full people, you Eternal Optimists who are about to cry "Doom speaker, Conspiracy Theorist", I post this thread to point out the incontestable evidence unfolding right before all of our eyes that proves my point. No entity, no nation, no group of people, animals or anything else that lives in this plane of existence can avoid extinction once those that make up the unit turn on each other as predators and consume their own kind. We are now at the stage of degradation where there are far too many predators than prey in our society for it to survive much longer.

The "medical"/pharmaceutical industry no longer serves the purpose of healing the sick and the infirmed. They have turned into drug pushers and profit takers at the expense of those who can afford to pay and through political collusion. Last year I heard a radio commercial on a NYC station for a medical provider that proclaimed that "You would pay any price for one more day of life. For one more hour of life. For one more minute of life. So when your life is at stake choose US for your medical needs". My brother heard it as well a month or so later and neither of us could believe that their balls have grown so huge that this was the approach they are now taking to fleece us all out of our cash and assets.

The banksters, who have always profited from war and death, have now turned to collusion and outright fraud to openly fleece the American public out of their paychecks. Faking mortgages, creating fake accounts for profit and manipulating the government for massive cash bailouts has never before been such a problem.

The lawyers or course have never had any moral character and have and always will seek out any individual, group, or institution with income and/or assets on which to prey for profit, so this one is no surprise. Of course this now includes just about every lying sellout scumbag politician that no longer has to pretend to care for us and can concentrate on lining their own pockets and forcing us all to pay for all of their expenses and more. They have become perhaps the largest predator of the American public today. They are now above pretty much every "law" that they use to dominate our every day lives and own the lying, thieving Media to cover their tracks.

American business no longer searches out our needs to fill and thereby profit from. They have turned to forcing us to consume whatever cheap crap they can get from overseas and buy enough sellout politicians to insure bailouts and mandated purchases from us. And how about corporations are people too, remember?

Hollywood and the rest of the "entertainment" business repackages the same old crap in new cans while promoting sexual predation at just about every level of its many tentacles. In fact, pretty much all of the predator groups that feed on us not only want our income and our assets, but our "virginity" as well!

This simply cannot continue. Everyone is preyed upon by too many predators to escape very much longer. Those who spout lines of crap about how things are good and getting better serve only one purpose and that is to lull themselves and whoever is foolish enough to listen to them into a false state of security and promote the attitude of NOT CARING about fixing any of the problems. Too many people simply do not care and they do not care about anything at all. It is the perfect mindset for the prey to assume to allow for total predation upon the species by the parasites and predators that feed upon the herd. Enjoy every good day you have left. It will not go on forever.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Um, no.

America will survive. That's sort of a given.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75655002


There's a big difference between "survival" and 'success,' and survival can end up a hell of a lot worse. Right now we're riding the 'rainbow express' down the tracks of denial where if we just ignore the canyon ahead, everything will be just fine.
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What scares the hoohaa out of me (and keeps me armed) are the tens of million in this nation who can't even understand the dialogue you are having and are more near animal or vegetable than human, and who will turn violent as soon as they are not fed.

Not all of them are the great masses of the unwashed.
Many are in alphabet agencies with training we can't get
and skills we will never have as civilians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75683567


You are wise to be so aware and mindful of the problem that would be created once the supply lines are compromised. If they are ever interrupted than it will get very interesting, very quickly. Keep your powder dry my friend and keep you nose into the wind.
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While Cataclysm is certainly possibly I feel as bad as it is now things will not come to such a state, at least at this current time frame.

Things are too established to just crumble completely. Whoever is pulling the strings, you can insert your own word, clearly has things set up.

Most Humans on this planet are connected to Electronic devices.

Most Humans are so connected to these devices that they spend a vast majority of free time and work time using them.

Most Humans shop, play, and just about most other sensual experiences and stimulus is now either coming from or being used to obtain from electronic devices.

Yes. Downfall and Yes Collapse but I dont think we will be seeing buildings fall or riots in the streets.

We will just become even more engrossed and involved in our Electronic Screen Devices.

We are entering into a False Reality, and I believe the Collapse you speak of is simply the seeking to place Humans away from Reality and into a False Reality. A way in which to completely control the individual, the community, and the population entirely. No matter how much "Freedom" you are told you possess.

This to me is scarier than guns and bombs going off because its silent, its not really spoken about, and its already been so heavily pushed into the Human psyche that its almost impossible to escape.
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"technology" is the virus....
x 7

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Remember this when Mavericks owner Mark Cuban (a huge pro techie freak who just this evening was on Hannity's show) starts his campaign to challenge Trump for the Republican 2020 election.
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This is like a history lesson learn it and remember write it all do so it can be told to your child, if we over come this, never allow them to do this again. It where people from our pass have told the same thing, but forgot some details or they did not know them. Never allow a group and it not a large group the control of our lives.

We did or ancestors did set up a confederation of states and it is a contract, these people who claim one thing but did another cause a war, by doing so got the toe in, then their foot then the legs and, bodies. I know people do not want to hear that this started before the civil war but it did, they wanted a bank and that bank was linked to a family and that family controls the money even now.

I the same people back then as it is now. We had weights and measure set up with no interest no inflation no deflation, and war were not to be fought, like they pushed us into. You land was your own not theirs, the taxes were not on your home, how in the in the world could you be secure in your house and home if they could take if for taxed, that was changed back then. I knew it was unconstitutional and against the bill of right but I could never find it until recently it was done in 1864 along with everything taxed and was not nailed down. This did not help the people at all and it just was to build the federal up against the states and the people, that was the cause of the states leaving. Getting them back was the war. They had a plan and they needed those states that left.

There is you start of this mess and it has grown since.

As for corporations under the real constitution they would not have rights as a person. They would be a business and they would pay taxes but not over burdened with them. Washington would be less and not there all the time, they would take a steep cut in pay. I will tell you now, communism was the goal, it was developed to be used, it was meant not to help anyone, it was to take over period by getting people to look to daddy gov. which make them the royalty and us the serfs. The same people, the same people who lost it. They are now evil in their beings for doing what they have done.

I hope some do a turn around for their own sake, as much as for others. In the long run they will fail they done it over and over through the centuries but they always fail, thinking next time and they will get it right, no they won't. Man may go backwards but they will failing it already told and done. History repeats and there is a reason, it to try and teach some people to stop. You are hurting yourselves as much or more than others.

Anyway right now, every company that has international ties are link. Say one company hires a person, that person get hire they have insurance with a good pay for getting hurt and it cost a lot to get. Well that company is own by the insurance company and they pay, it ok for them you made them money with you work until you got hurt, what a little pay out, they have the money you paid them to give back to you. You have been useful even more because the medical help is their and the pharmaceuticals are theirs. Yes this is done by some of the international corporations. I know of one for sure and the insurance was linked to banks corporation Hollywood, and they paid the people a good bit but no never the lost of their jobs but they had been make a hold lot of these people in movies etc.. yep this was like a ponzi scheme, high up but a ponzi scheme.

It no different even in the technology sector, the start was Ma Bell, it still Ma Bell under neath, these ones are from her. That is IBM, MICROSOFT, You name they are from them the large one really. Nice little watch system, all in bubble really bubble floating around, people talking to each other and when you want to listen in, tap the bubble. I did it interesting, but a little on the voyager for me. It sometime was there face time and just people chatting with each other. I found it to dang noise for may liking and no privacy.

Of course they do not question what they are doing, it is unconstitutional but they have lost themselves in this machine, they become part of a link to a machine and the machine does but they are the arm of it. This and other reason it need to be trim down to a minimal state of real usefulness. If it had done it's job the the arms of it did not help the children because these would have shown in these places.

There are good and bad with this technology. It had cut off real things, real people from each other, it is controlling, it feeding truth and lies. And everyone at sometimes has seen it.

CGI is fine for a movie, a commercial something like this everyone would know it is, other wise it should be labels what it is. Not used against people. I has done this.

I should not just keep writing but things have uses as long as it is not use to keep people from living their lives, with family and friends. Men could then figure out the real way life is, so could women real women and men getting together the normal way. Life works out much better that way. Well I have said enough. Make me said because i had a good life i read books studied research and bought old book from back before this happened back to 1800s and earlier, get books and dairy's were a good part of it, from people who lived in those years.
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"technology" is the virus....
 Quoting: 7.X.


Yet we are all infected with it..

And most see little harm with "Technology"

Afterall its been ingrained into our lives from an early stage now. Most of the "WW2" generations have sense passed and the remainder of Humanity have been raised on its Devices. with each succeeding generation being more and more needy of it.

One will be able to continue to live a lavish life amidst this "Collapse"
 Quoting: Archaic Smile


EMP problem solved .....with some large amount of collateral damage.

But what will other countries do?

Same as us try to secure the Nkular booms and other munitions.

With or against what remains of US forces.

We will see ....well mostly we.
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This Country will be fine. There are competent people in the White House now. The real trick is finding the puppet string pullers aka 'Deep State" and or Foreign Interests.

There needs to be a Political "Purge" in Government and "We the People" are the ones who should be behind it.

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While Cataclysm is certainly possibly I feel as bad as it is now things will not come to such a state, at least at this current time frame.

Things are too established to just crumble completely. Whoever is pulling the strings, you can insert your own word, clearly has things set up.

Most Humans on this planet are connected to Electronic devices.

Most Humans are so connected to these devices that they spend a vast majority of free time and work time using them.

Most Humans shop, play, and just about most other sensual experiences and stimulus is now either coming from or being used to obtain from electronic devices.

Yes. Downfall and Yes Collapse but I dont think we will be seeing buildings fall or riots in the streets.

We will just become even more engrossed and involved in our Electronic Screen Devices.

We are entering into a False Reality, and I believe the Collapse you speak of is simply the seeking to place Humans away from Reality and into a False Reality. A way in which to completely control the individual, the community, and the population entirely. No matter how much "Freedom" you are told you possess.

This to me is scarier than guns and bombs going off because its silent, its not really spoken about, and its already been so heavily pushed into the Human psyche that its almost impossible to escape.
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"technology" is the virus....

Remember this when Mavericks owner Mark Cuban (a huge pro techie freak who just this evening was on Hannity's show) starts his campaign to challenge Trump for the Republican 2020 election.
 Quoting: 7.X.

DONT BE FOOLED he is one of the never trumpers and YOU KNOW who and what they are
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What you detail is not America but the world. America isn't the most corrupt either.
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This Country will be fine. There are competent people in the White House now. The real trick is finding the puppet string pullers aka 'Deep State" and or Foreign Interests.

There needs to be a Political "Purge" in Government and "We the People" are the ones who should be behind it.

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I do believe that it is well known who the string pullers are, but stopping them is the problem for it requires individuals that cannot be bought . People that will not sell out and until there are none who will do so, sellouts will always "rise" to the positions of power.
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This is like a history lesson learn it and remember write it all do so it can be told to your child, if we over come this, never allow them to do this again. It where people from our pass have told the same thing, but forgot some details or they did not know them. Never allow a group and it not a large group the control of our lives.

We did or ancestors did set up a confederation of states and it is a contract, these people who claim one thing but did another cause a war, by doing so got the toe in, then their foot then the legs and, bodies. I know people do not want to hear that this started before the civil war but it did, they wanted a bank and that bank was linked to a family and that family controls the money even now.

I the same people back then as it is now. We had weights and measure set up with no interest no inflation no deflation, and war were not to be fought, like they pushed us into. You land was your own not theirs, the taxes were not on your home, how in the in the world could you be secure in your house and home if they could take if for taxed, that was changed back then. I knew it was unconstitutional and against the bill of right but I could never find it until recently it was done in 1864 along with everything taxed and was not nailed down. This did not help the people at all and it just was to build the federal up against the states and the people, that was the cause of the states leaving. Getting them back was the war. They had a plan and they needed those states that left.

There is you start of this mess and it has grown since.

As for corporations under the real constitution they would not have rights as a person. They would be a business and they would pay taxes but not over burdened with them. Washington would be less and not there all the time, they would take a steep cut in pay. I will tell you now, communism was the goal, it was developed to be used, it was meant not to help anyone, it was to take over period by getting people to look to daddy gov. which make them the royalty and us the serfs. The same people, the same people who lost it. They are now evil in their beings for doing what they have done.

I hope some do a turn around for their own sake, as much as for others. In the long run they will fail they done it over and over through the centuries but they always fail, thinking next time and they will get it right, no they won't. Man may go backwards but they will failing it already told and done. History repeats and there is a reason, it to try and teach some people to stop. You are hurting yourselves as much or more than others.

Anyway right now, every company that has international ties are link. Say one company hires a person, that person get hire they have insurance with a good pay for getting hurt and it cost a lot to get. Well that company is own by the insurance company and they pay, it ok for them you made them money with you work until you got hurt, what a little pay out, they have the money you paid them to give back to you. You have been useful even more because the medical help is their and the pharmaceuticals are theirs. Yes this is done by some of the international corporations. I know of one for sure and the insurance was linked to banks corporation Hollywood, and they paid the people a good bit but no never the lost of their jobs but they had been make a hold lot of these people in movies etc.. yep this was like a ponzi scheme, high up but a ponzi scheme.

It no different even in the technology sector, the start was Ma Bell, it still Ma Bell under neath, these ones are from her. That is IBM, MICROSOFT, You name they are from them the large one really. Nice little watch system, all in bubble really bubble floating around, people talking to each other and when you want to listen in, tap the bubble. I did it interesting, but a little on the voyager for me. It sometime was there face time and just people chatting with each other. I found it to dang noise for may liking and no privacy.

Of course they do not question what they are doing, it is unconstitutional but they have lost themselves in this machine, they become part of a link to a machine and the machine does but they are the arm of it. This and other reason it need to be trim down to a minimal state of real usefulness. If it had done it's job the the arms of it did not help the children because these would have shown in these places.

There are good and bad with this technology. It had cut off real things, real people from each other, it is controlling, it feeding truth and lies. And everyone at sometimes has seen it.

CGI is fine for a movie, a commercial something like this everyone would know it is, other wise it should be labels what it is. Not used against people. I has done this.

I should not just keep writing but things have uses as long as it is not use to keep people from living their lives, with family and friends. Men could then figure out the real way life is, so could women real women and men getting together the normal way. Life works out much better that way. Well I have said enough. Make me said because i had a good life i read books studied research and bought old book from back before this happened back to 1800s and earlier, get books and dairy's were a good part of it, from people who lived in those years.
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Thanks, now that you and others know ,go higher and teach others. Thanks again.
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Lately I realize it's not about "collapse" at all. We've reached an apex of national fatigue. Our nation is not "young" anymore. It is not "enthusiastic" or "naive". We've become like other salted and seasoned Nations that have seen too much war, too much corruption, too much poverty, too much strife and work. Our "shine" is gone. We're "jaded" and skeptical, if not downright cynical now. It will never return to it's former self. We're older like other nations now. Bitter.
We have a sordid past to look back on, the last 75 years of lies. An eroded governance that doesn't even resemble it's creation. So, we go on, like other nations have. We adapt. We change. We accept new constraints, we resist where we can, we make new paths for the sake of future generations. We may not have a "naive pink glasses" worldview anymore, but we cling to hope, real hope.
In some ways, I'm glad that the "pretense & facade" of our condition and nation is falling away. Other times, I just can't stand the hardened hearts and stern faces that are now going to be forever part of our culture and people, because we are not young anymore as a Nation.
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This Country will be fine. There are competent people in the White House now. The real trick is finding the puppet string pullers aka 'Deep State" and or Foreign Interests.

There needs to be a Political "Purge" in Government and "We the People" are the ones who should be behind it.

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I do believe that it is well known who the string pullers are, but stopping them is the problem for it requires individuals that cannot be bought . People that will not sell out and until there are none who will do so, sellouts will always "rise" to the positions of power.
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No, even the Puppet string pullers have puppet string pullers.
It's all compartmentalized, need to know hush hush where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

That is why it is so difficult to find the real ones. Trump has a Purge in the making, a real one. It's called term limits.
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Trump has backpedaled on everything he promised. Taxes, health insurance, will drain the people of any hope of a comfortable life. They are
indentured servants, they are to complacent to realize it.
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This is like a history lesson learn it and remember write it all do so it can be told to your child, if we over come this, never allow them to do this again. It where people from our pass have told the same thing, but forgot some details or they did not know them. Never allow a group and it not a large group the control of our lives.

We did or ancestors did set up a confederation of states and it is a contract, these people who claim one thing but did another cause a war, by doing so got the toe in, then their foot then the legs and, bodies. I know people do not want to hear that this started before the civil war but it did, they wanted a bank and that bank was linked to a family and that family controls the money even now.

I the same people back then as it is now. We had weights and measure set up with no interest no inflation no deflation, and war were not to be fought, like they pushed us into. You land was your own not theirs, the taxes were not on your home, how in the in the world could you be secure in your house and home if they could take if for taxed, that was changed back then. I knew it was unconstitutional and against the bill of right but I could never find it until recently it was done in 1864 along with everything taxed and was not nailed down. This did not help the people at all and it just was to build the federal up against the states and the people, that was the cause of the states leaving. Getting them back was the war. They had a plan and they needed those states that left.

There is you start of this mess and it has grown since.

As for corporations under the real constitution they would not have rights as a person. They would be a business and they would pay taxes but not over burdened with them. Washington would be less and not there all the time, they would take a steep cut in pay. I will tell you now, communism was the goal, it was developed to be used, it was meant not to help anyone, it was to take over period by getting people to look to daddy gov. which make them the royalty and us the serfs. The same people, the same people who lost it. They are now evil in their beings for doing what they have done.

I hope some do a turn around for their own sake, as much as for others. In the long run they will fail they done it over and over through the centuries but they always fail, thinking next time and they will get it right, no they won't. Man may go backwards but they will failing it already told and done. History repeats and there is a reason, it to try and teach some people to stop. You are hurting yourselves as much or more than others.

Anyway right now, every company that has international ties are link. Say one company hires a person, that person get hire they have insurance with a good pay for getting hurt and it cost a lot to get. Well that company is own by the insurance company and they pay, it ok for them you made them money with you work until you got hurt, what a little pay out, they have the money you paid them to give back to you. You have been useful even more because the medical help is their and the pharmaceuticals are theirs. Yes this is done by some of the international corporations. I know of one for sure and the insurance was linked to banks corporation Hollywood, and they paid the people a good bit but no never the lost of their jobs but they had been make a hold lot of these people in movies etc.. yep this was like a ponzi scheme, high up but a ponzi scheme.

It no different even in the technology sector, the start was Ma Bell, it still Ma Bell under neath, these ones are from her. That is IBM, MICROSOFT, You name they are from them the large one really. Nice little watch system, all in bubble really bubble floating around, people talking to each other and when you want to listen in, tap the bubble. I did it interesting, but a little on the voyager for me. It sometime was there face time and just people chatting with each other. I found it to dang noise for may liking and no privacy.

Of course they do not question what they are doing, it is unconstitutional but they have lost themselves in this machine, they become part of a link to a machine and the machine does but they are the arm of it. This and other reason it need to be trim down to a minimal state of real usefulness. If it had done it's job the the arms of it did not help the children because these would have shown in these places.

There are good and bad with this technology. It had cut off real things, real people from each other, it is controlling, it feeding truth and lies. And everyone at sometimes has seen it.

CGI is fine for a movie, a commercial something like this everyone would know it is, other wise it should be labels what it is. Not used against people. I has done this.

I should not just keep writing but things have uses as long as it is not use to keep people from living their lives, with family and friends. Men could then figure out the real way life is, so could women real women and men getting together the normal way. Life works out much better that way. Well I have said enough. Make me said because i had a good life i read books studied research and bought old book from back before this happened back to 1800s and earlier, get books and dairy's were a good part of it, from people who lived in those years.
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Lately I realize it's not about "collapse" at all. We've reached an apex of national fatigue. Our nation is not "young" anymore. It is not "enthusiastic" or "naive". We've become like other salted and seasoned Nations that have seen too much war, too much corruption, too much poverty, too much strife and work. Our "shine" is gone. We're "jaded" and skeptical, if not downright cynical now. It will never return to it's former self. We're older like other nations now. Bitter.
We have a sordid past to look back on, the last 75 years of lies. An eroded governance that doesn't even resemble it's creation. So, we go on, like other nations have. We adapt. We change. We accept new constraints, we resist where we can, we make new paths for the sake of future generations. We may not have a "naive pink glasses" worldview anymore, but we cling to hope, real hope.
In some ways, I'm glad that the "pretense & facade" of our condition and nation is falling away. Other times, I just can't stand the hardened hearts and stern faces that are now going to be forever part of our culture and people, because we are not young anymore as a Nation.
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To all of you Glass is Half Full people, you Eternal Optimists who are about to cry "Doom speaker, Conspiracy Theorist", I post this thread to point out the incontestable evidence unfolding right before all of our eyes that proves my point. No entity, no nation, no group of people, animals or anything else that lives in this plane of existence can avoid extinction once those that make up the unit turn on each other as predators and consume their own kind. We are now at the stage of degradation where there are far too many predators than prey in our society for it to survive much longer.

The "medical"/pharmaceutical industry no longer serves the purpose of healing the sick and the infirmed. They have turned into drug pushers and profit takers at the expense of those who can afford to pay and through political collusion. Last year I heard a radio commercial on a NYC station for a medical provider that proclaimed that "You would pay any price for one more day of life. For one more hour of life. For one more minute of life. So when your life is at stake choose US for your medical needs". My brother heard it as well a month or so later and neither of us could believe that their balls have grown so huge that this was the approach they are now taking to fleece us all out of our cash and assets.

The banksters, who have always profited from war and death, have now turned to collusion and outright fraud to openly fleece the American public out of their paychecks. Faking mortgages, creating fake accounts for profit and manipulating the government for massive cash bailouts has never before been such a problem.

The lawyers or course have never had any moral character and have and always will seek out any individual, group, or institution with income and/or assets on which to prey for profit, so this one is no surprise. Of course this now includes just about every lying sellout scumbag politician that no longer has to pretend to care for us and can concentrate on lining their own pockets and forcing us all to pay for all of their expenses and more. They have become perhaps the largest predator of the American public today. They are now above pretty much every "law" that they use to dominate our every day lives and own the lying, thieving Media to cover their tracks.

American business no longer searches out our needs to fill and thereby profit from. They have turned to forcing us to consume whatever cheap crap they can get from overseas and buy enough sellout politicians to insure bailouts and mandated purchases from us. And how about corporations are people too, remember?

Hollywood and the rest of the "entertainment" business repackages the same old crap in new cans while promoting sexual predation at just about every level of its many tentacles. In fact, pretty much all of the predator groups that feed on us not only want our income and our assets, but our "virginity" as well!

This simply cannot continue. Everyone is preyed upon by too many predators to escape very much longer. Those who spout lines of crap about how things are good and getting better serve only one purpose and that is to lull themselves and whoever is foolish enough to listen to them into a false state of security and promote the attitude of NOT CARING about fixing any of the problems. Too many people simply do not care and they do not care about anything at all. It is the perfect mindset for the prey to assume to allow for total predation upon the species by the parasites and predators that feed upon the herd. Enjoy every good day you have left. It will not go on forever.
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You fucked us totally over and I hope you get it back 10X.
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I am not saying OP is wrong, but history shows us the future. Empires, and that's what the US is, don't just rise and fall in a steady trajectory. Often they teeter on collapse before reasserting their dominance.

This may be the end of the USA as we know it. Or it could be the beginning of new highs. Nobody can say.

The elites are aware of this. That's why some seek a war with China or Russia. It's a gamble that if won would reassert US dominion. The petrodollar would be unchallenged.
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I agree with some of what you're saying but I'd like you to consider this

The elites care not for countries or nations or flags

If it brings about their plans with the most profit (not necessarily money) they will destroy any nation/people/country without any twinge of regret
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I agree with you on that point. The problem for us is we can't know how the elite's scales balance out. Who are they and from where does their strength arise?

If the power lay in the military industrial complex then it'll be war. If it's in finance I'm not sure. I suspect that the elite are not all carbon copies of each other. They are mixed bags when it comes to their power and wealth bases. So there may be tug of wars and negotiations over how to proceed.

My guess is war. If the US wins the dollar reigns for another 50 years and trillions will be made in weapons manufacturing along the way. Once again all oil will be sold in dollars allowing for more printing. Defeated states will be raped of resources through contracts to western businesses.

If the US loses the war oh well. The elite move to one of their other homes in some beautiful place and continue fucking over common folks there.
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Remember this when Mavericks owner Mark Cuban (a huge pro techie freak who just this evening was on Hannity's show) starts his campaign to challenge Trump for the Republican 2020 election.
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DONT BE FOOLED he is one of the never trumpers and YOU KNOW who and what they are
 Quoting: 7.X.



It's a given that Cuban is mainly a libtard who has long reacted about issues and people in a way that makes him a good fit the label "limousine liberal."




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While Cataclysm is certainly possibly I feel as bad as it is now things will not come to such a state, at least at this current time frame.

Things are too established to just crumble completely. Whoever is pulling the strings, you can insert your own word, clearly has things set up.

Most Humans on this planet are connected to Electronic devices.

Most Humans are so connected to these devices that they spend a vast majority of free time and work time using them.

Most Humans shop, play, and just about most other sensual experiences and stimulus is now either coming from or being used to obtain from electronic devices.

Yes. Downfall and Yes Collapse but I dont think we will be seeing buildings fall or riots in the streets.

We will just become even more engrossed and involved in our Electronic Screen Devices.

We are entering into a False Reality, and I believe the Collapse you speak of is simply the seeking to place Humans away from Reality and into a False Reality. A way in which to completely control the individual, the community, and the population entirely. No matter how much "Freedom" you are told you possess.

This to me is scarier than guns and bombs going off because its silent, its not really spoken about, and its already been so heavily pushed into the Human psyche that its almost impossible to escape.
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"technology" is the virus....

Remember this when Mavericks owner Mark Cuban (a huge pro techie freak who just this evening was on Hannity's show) starts his campaign to challenge Trump for the Republican 2020 election.
 Quoting: 7.X.

DONT BE FOOLED he is one of the never trumpers and YOU KNOW who and what they are
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Cuban , no dice as far as I can see, but HANNITY, maybe ?
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No we are doing great, NAFTA negotiations will be

finished on friday.. going great.


Republicans say they are there on tax cuts


and look how much trump is getting down while distracting

everybody with his tweets.



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If this nation does fall then it will be because of the policies and actions of the last four sorry excuses for presidents we had. Especially Clinton and GWB.
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When your Judges ignore the leader of your country, when the media challenges his every word. When the citizens do not rise up to support him,... well it's not looking good.
Yes there are a few citizen that try to support him, but they should be doing so that they cannot be ignored. I've had a few posts about this myself but no one seems to care, or don't really see what is happening.
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Shit's goin down!

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You just can't think of any creative solutions.

All problems can be solved.





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