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The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50054761  United States10/18/2017 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Or they're pulling an Israel and giving us info on Russia while being "their friend". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 859181 You people really have no idea how these games are played. You just get triggered at a headline and don't even think to look deeper. Then act all shocked later when Saudi or whoever hurts Russia at a key time instead of helping them like you thought they would. Well. If you truly believe the Saudi's would do something like this, I got a bridge and some oil I think you would be interested in... |
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Ankhiale
(OP) User ID: 75234766  Romania10/18/2017 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town I'm not so sure about that. "the Pentagon expressed concern about information that at the talks of King of Saudi Arabia Salman Ben Abdul Aziz Al Saud and Russian President Vladimir Putin an agreement was reached on the purchase of S-400 systems by Riyadh." [link to ria.ru (secure)] According to the highly respected Russian intellectual Fyodor Lukyanov, Saudi Arabia recognized that Russia is an important player in the Middle East, though years ago the Saudi's perception of Russia's actions in Syria was hostile. However, Lukyanov cautions that although Russia-Saudi relations have taken a positive turn, Riyadh remains a traditional Washington ally. He said:"Russia asserted its view on Syria. To put it very primitively: Russia has sustained in Syria a military victory over forces, backed – among the others – by Saudi Arabia itself. Thus Russia proved it is a force worth having good relations with and one to be reckoned with… "We do not suggest ourselves as a replacement for the U.S., since Washington is Riyadh's strategic partner, no one is going to change it. Yet, the U.S. is following quite nervously the strengthening of Russian positions in the Middle East. The strengthening of Russian positions is proved by the fact that traditional U.S. partners are paying greater attention towards Moscow – Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar… Yet, it is by no means to be considered as a substitution [for the U.S.], but rather a diversification". [link to ria.ru (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75709174  South Africa10/18/2017 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Or they're pulling an Israel and giving us info on Russia while being "their friend". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 859181 You people really have no idea how these games are played. You just get triggered at a headline and don't even think to look deeper. Then act all shocked later when Saudi or whoever hurts Russia at a key time instead of helping them like you thought they would. Have you ever stopped to consider that Arabia was NEVER your friend, but merely playing the USA. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States10/18/2017 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town I'm not so sure about that. "the Pentagon expressed concern about information that at the talks of King of Saudi Arabia Salman Ben Abdul Aziz Al Saud and Russian President Vladimir Putin an agreement was reached on the purchase of S-400 systems by Riyadh." [link to ria.ru (secure)] According to the highly respected Russian intellectual Fyodor Lukyanov, Saudi Arabia recognized that Russia is an important player in the Middle East, though years ago the Saudi's perception of Russia's actions in Syria was hostile. However, Lukyanov cautions that although Russia-Saudi relations have taken a positive turn, Riyadh remains a traditional Washington ally. He said:"Russia asserted its view on Syria. To put it very primitively: Russia has sustained in Syria a military victory over forces, backed – among the others – by Saudi Arabia itself. Thus Russia proved it is a force worth having good relations with and one to be reckoned with… "We do not suggest ourselves as a replacement for the U.S., since Washington is Riyadh's strategic partner, no one is going to change it. Yet, the U.S. is following quite nervously the strengthening of Russian positions in the Middle East. The strengthening of Russian positions is proved by the fact that traditional U.S. partners are paying greater attention towards Moscow – Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar… Yet, it is by no means to be considered as a substitution [for the U.S.], but rather a diversification". [link to ria.ru (secure)] so, Russia-Iran have decided to not invade Arabia after all? . |
| Ankhiale
(OP) User ID: 75234766 Romania10/18/2017 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town I'm not so sure about that. "the Pentagon expressed concern about information that at the talks of King of Saudi Arabia Salman Ben Abdul Aziz Al Saud and Russian President Vladimir Putin an agreement was reached on the purchase of S-400 systems by Riyadh." [link to ria.ru (secure)] According to the highly respected Russian intellectual Fyodor Lukyanov, Saudi Arabia recognized that Russia is an important player in the Middle East, though years ago the Saudi's perception of Russia's actions in Syria was hostile. However, Lukyanov cautions that although Russia-Saudi relations have taken a positive turn, Riyadh remains a traditional Washington ally. He said:"Russia asserted its view on Syria. To put it very primitively: Russia has sustained in Syria a military victory over forces, backed – among the others – by Saudi Arabia itself. Thus Russia proved it is a force worth having good relations with and one to be reckoned with… "We do not suggest ourselves as a replacement for the U.S., since Washington is Riyadh's strategic partner, no one is going to change it. Yet, the U.S. is following quite nervously the strengthening of Russian positions in the Middle East. The strengthening of Russian positions is proved by the fact that traditional U.S. partners are paying greater attention towards Moscow – Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar… Yet, it is by no means to be considered as a substitution [for the U.S.], but rather a diversification". [link to ria.ru (secure)] so, Russia-Iran have decided to not invade Arabia after all? . We will see that in the future. But the purchase of S400 by China, India, Turkey and SA doesn't sound good for US and EU. |
| Ankhiale
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75714719 Romania10/18/2017 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Thread: Too funny: Here is Trump bowing and doing a curtsey to the Saudi king! Thread: TRUMP bows down to muslim king ..video! Trump is still a great shoeshine boy for Saudis. Trump MAGA!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70967354 United States10/18/2017 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town "No one could see this coming; the ideological matrix of all strands of Salafi-jihadi terror – which Russia fights no holds barred, from ISIS/Daesh to the Caucasus Emirate – beating a path to the Kremlin and about to embrace Russia as a strategic ally. Quoting: Ankhiale The House of Saud was horrified by Russia’s successful campaign to prevent regime change in Syria. Moscow was solidifying its alliance with Tehran. Hawks in the Obama administration were imposing on Saudi Arabia a strategy of keeping oil prices down to hurt the Russian economy." [...] "Essentially, the House of Saud is obsessed by three main vectors; low oil prices; Iran and Shi’ism; and what to make of US foreign policy under Trump. Let’s take them one by one. I want my S-400s As much as a Moscow-Washington reset remains doomed, even with the implosion of Russia-Gate, House of Saud advisers must have known that the Kremlin won’t ditch its strategic relationship with Iran – one of the key nodes of Eurasia integration. Moscow will keep aligned with Iran across “Syraq”; that’s part of the “4+1” (Russia-Syria-Iran-Iraq, plus Hezbollah) alliance in the Levant/Mesopotamia, an incontrovertible (and winning) fact on the ground. And that does not preclude Russia’s increasingly cozy relationships across the Arab world – as with Egypt, Jordan, the UAE and Libya. [...] [link to www.atimes.com]  Wishful thinking at best. Bold faced propaganda at best. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70967354 United States10/18/2017 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town In the US an anti air rate of under 80% is a fail... In Russia apparently a 50% anti air rate is acceptable... Do the math. |
| Concorde Warrior F-BVFA
User ID: 75002812  France10/18/2017 04:15 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town "No one could see this coming; the ideological matrix of all strands of Salafi-jihadi terror – which Russia fights no holds barred, from ISIS/Daesh to the Caucasus Emirate – beating a path to the Kremlin and about to embrace Russia as a strategic ally. Quoting: Ankhiale They are all in it together. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]  [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]  I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75515361  Poland10/18/2017 04:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Former king of Saudi Arabia king Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud was a great friend of Poland and he once saved life of two small Polish siamese girls. [link to www.fakt.pl] |
| : / User ID: 75704796  United Kingdom10/18/2017 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town ..and add stuff like this- Thread: Move To Digital Currencies Accelerates As PBoC Successfully Tests Algos For Digital Money "...Unlike Bitcoin or other digital money issued by the private sector, the digital fiat currency has the same legal status as the Chinese yuan, the only fiat currency issued by the People's Bank of China..." (...'digital fiat currency' ? )..and cryptoruble ..and this- Thread: China To Buy Oil With Gold-Backed Yuan To Bypass US-Dollar, Trying To Set New World’s Currency System ^^saudi's visit (keep building the picture)    |
| jake
User ID: 13390826 United States10/18/2017 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Good let them be flooded with babylonian Terrorists Good luck Putin! Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 10/18/2017 05:04 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75157490  Greece10/18/2017 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Or they're pulling an Israel and giving us info on Russia while being "their friend". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 859181 You people really have no idea how these games are played. You just get triggered at a headline and don't even think to look deeper. Then act all shocked later when Saudi or whoever hurts Russia at a key time instead of helping them like you thought they would. You just summed up entire 300 years of Russian foreign affairs history. |
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| FlatSpace
User ID: 69420793 United States10/18/2017 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town "No one could see this coming; the ideological matrix of all strands of Salafi-jihadi terror – which Russia fights no holds barred, from ISIS/Daesh to the Caucasus Emirate – beating a path to the Kremlin and about to embrace Russia as a strategic ally. Quoting: Ankhiale The House of Saud was horrified by Russia’s successful campaign to prevent regime change in Syria. Moscow was solidifying its alliance with Tehran. Hawks in the Obama administration were imposing on Saudi Arabia a strategy of keeping oil prices down to hurt the Russian economy." [...] "Essentially, the House of Saud is obsessed by three main vectors; low oil prices; Iran and Shi’ism; and what to make of US foreign policy under Trump. Let’s take them one by one. I want my S-400s As much as a Moscow-Washington reset remains doomed, even with the implosion of Russia-Gate, House of Saud advisers must have known that the Kremlin won’t ditch its strategic relationship with Iran – one of the key nodes of Eurasia integration. Moscow will keep aligned with Iran across “Syraq”; that’s part of the “4+1” (Russia-Syria-Iran-Iraq, plus Hezbollah) alliance in the Levant/Mesopotamia, an incontrovertible (and winning) fact on the ground. And that does not preclude Russia’s increasingly cozy relationships across the Arab world – as with Egypt, Jordan, the UAE and Libya. [...] [link to www.atimes.com]  5*The One |
| Gero Nimo
User ID: 12846181  Slovenia10/18/2017 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Or they're pulling an Israel and giving us info on Russia while being "their friend". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 859181 You people really have no idea how these games are played. You just get triggered at a headline and don't even think to look deeper. Then act all shocked later when Saudi or whoever hurts Russia at a key time instead of helping them like you thought they would. Such a naive statement. Saudis are gonna walk Kremlin halls and gather intelligence on Russians, cause Russians normal protocol is they invite every official visitor for a briefing then sit them down in front of Kremlin PC, bring cookies and milks and say, "type away comrade". Saudis are no "friends", just because they came for visit. Saudis came to Moscow begging on their knees, not gather intelligence or sell oil like it is the case with Washington. |
| Gero Nimo
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| King Triad
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| Trubind1
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70133221 Romania11/05/2017 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The House of Saud bows to the House of Putin. Saudi Arabia pivots to Russia, the new sheriff in town Thread: China could shatter petrodollar by compelling Saudi Arabia to trade oil in yuan Thread: BREAKING - Something BIG Going on in S.A./Middle East (Pg29 - Yemen BLOCKADE) It's game over for the petrodollar and for America. |
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