Why Is Social Security Always Threatened With Bankruptcy But Welfare Never Is? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41123100 United States 09/13/2017 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government profits from welfare, welfare is collected and managed by each state. But it is federally taxed, so the federal government gets a big payout. They more welfare, the more money the federal government gets. Not so with social security. The federal government collects it, and manages the pay outs. So they have a big pile of money just sitting their begging to be exploited. And they have borrowed against it, as collateral, for billions of dollars. At a certain point, the interest payments on the debt becomes higher than the government can afford to pay. At that point, social security is insolvent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72068185 United States 09/14/2017 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I can best determine, the Social Security Program costs the US government some $848.5 Billion per year... Quoting: Black Knight Social Security is PAID FOR BY CONTRIBUTIONS by future recipients, it costs NOTHING from the General Fund. In FACT,, the SS trust fund has a SURPLUS of well over $2 billion. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41123100 United States 09/14/2017 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I can best determine, the Social Security Program costs the US government some $848.5 Billion per year... Quoting: Black Knight Social Security is PAID FOR BY CONTRIBUTIONS by future recipients, it costs NOTHING from the General Fund. In FACT,, the SS trust fund has a SURPLUS of well over $2 billion. . Correct, but the government has borrowed against it for BILLIONS of dollars. That is what is threatening insolvency. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41123100 United States 09/14/2017 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wall street wants that social security money in the market, the banks want that money in their investment banks. They are manufacturing the problem so the money goes to the bankers and not the retirees. The bankers oppose social security and they own the government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75467139 United States 09/14/2017 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't WANT people recoivering the money that they paid into SS, over their lifetime. They want them to die off, just as soon as they've outlived their usefulness. But welfare? It's a solid means of totally controlling a person's life, and is a form of slavery. Even if the "slave" is not working, they are also not biting the hand that feeds them, and they are (of course) voting DemonRat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75525697 United States 09/14/2017 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SS= elderly, workers paid into system, conservatives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42566593 Welfare= illegals, free shit army, Democratic plantation, Antifa... Yes, I suppose that there are no documented cases of hungry old people rising up against corrupt governments are there? Actually I know of one. The French Revolution. |
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Deplorable Billxam
User ID: 64581773 United States 09/14/2017 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it's because one recipient is too old to do anything about it, the other all revolution on their asses. It's because under their ideology, old people are useless and need to die so SS unimportant. Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
Nikola Tesla
User ID: 72788982 United States 09/14/2017 04:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I can best determine, the Social Security Program costs the US government some $848.5 Billion per year... Quoting: Black Knight [link to www.pewresearch.org] and the cost of Welfare is $1.03 Trillion per year... [link to www.foxbusiness.com] Social Security is a program that collected deductions from our wages over the course of our working lifetimes and then pays us back. Welfare is a straight out handout, a free gift, a charity program. How is it then that as the sellout, scumbag politicians in DC run out of money all the time because they steal too much of it for themselves and are hard pressed to payout these two programs, that they can threaten Social Security with bankruptcy, yet they never do the same for Welfare? Why are we Americans ok with that? Why are we still electing the same old useless bags of crap year after year ? Why are these people not behind bars? Good Question. I would like to know the answer to this and a whole lot more. "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
Wondering Mind
User ID: 73265267 United States 09/14/2017 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are making money off the welfare sector. Those who pile it on that sector do so to make money off of it. It helps the heavy ones get voted in, no matter how many citizens say and shout to them that they are too heavy to keep and want them thrown them out by their vote. Welfare votes them in and they know it and rig it for it. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
Nikola Tesla
User ID: 72788982 United States 09/14/2017 04:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are making money off the welfare sector. Quoting: Wondering Mind Those who pile it on that sector do so to make money off of it. It helps the heavy ones get voted in, no matter how many citizens say and shout to them that they are too heavy to keep and want them thrown them out by their vote. Welfare votes them in and they know it and rig it for it. "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
netnut
User ID: 72995698 United States 09/14/2017 04:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea!!! Plus No Raise Hardly Ever!! They Say No Inflation!!! BULL SHIT.... Ever Been To The Store In The Last 10 Yrs. AssHole Politician So Rich They Haven't Been To The Store Our Driven Their Own Car, Paid For Their Insurance All Their Lives!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75484813 United States 09/14/2017 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I can best determine, the Social Security Program costs the US government some $848.5 Billion per year... Quoting: Black Knight Social Security is PAID FOR BY CONTRIBUTIONS by future recipients, it costs NOTHING from the General Fund. In FACT,, the SS trust fund has a SURPLUS of well over $2 billion. . Correct, but the government has borrowed against it for BILLIONS of dollars. That is what is threatening insolvency. Not to mention that illegals and the employers who hire illegals aren't paying into the system ...X how many illegal workers over the decades? In the case of illegal workers/employers, one might as well accept that SS funds are being sent to Mexico and the Vatican rather than placed in the trust. When current workers are supposed to replenish SS monies (as current and soon-to-be retirees did when THEY worked) it's just another reason why ever rising numbers of illegals is a huge problem. |
Relativity
User ID: 75487118 United States 09/14/2017 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I can best determine, the Social Security Program costs the US government some $848.5 Billion per year... Quoting: Black Knight [link to www.pewresearch.org] and the cost of Welfare is $1.03 Trillion per year... [link to www.foxbusiness.com] Social Security is a program that collected deductions from our wages over the course of our working lifetimes and then pays us back. Welfare is a straight out handout, a free gift, a charity program. How is it then that as the sellout, scumbag politicians in DC run out of money all the time because they steal too much of it for themselves and are hard pressed to payout these two programs, that they can threaten Social Security with bankruptcy, yet they never do the same for Welfare? Why are we Americans ok with that? Why are we still electing the same old useless bags of crap year after year ? Why are these people not behind bars? Because its a rigged system that only the wealthy can enter. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75502016 United States 09/14/2017 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wall street wants that social security money in the market, the banks want that money in their investment banks. They are manufacturing the problem so the money goes to the bankers and not the retirees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41123100 The bankers oppose social security and they own the government. Exactly Obama and Hillary were owned by wall street as well not the poor welfare class |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35883326 United States 09/14/2017 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SS= elderly, workers paid into system, conservatives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42566593 Welfare= illegals, free shit army, Democratic plantation, Antifa... SS is not "paying in" to anything. Its the same money as welfare but is just given a different name. Its money that is taken from one person and given to another. It all comes from the same general fund. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75523496 Vietnam 09/14/2017 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are we Americans ok with that? Why are we still electing the same old useless bags of crap year after year ? Why are these people not behind bars? Quoting: Black Knight Good questions OP. More specifically, why are so many on GLP still lining up to vote within the two-party system each Election Day? Granted, the Democrats are not a viable choice, but you won't have difficulty finding GLPers who line up to vote for the Dems' "Republican" cousins. And please don't give me this shit about voting for third parties being equivalent to wasting a vote. Vote for people who can get the job done, who reflect values of humanity and justice and compassion, end of story! If the USA survives at all, it will be because the people boycotted the two major parties entirely and elected representatives who had no connection whatsoever to the previous ruling regime, no trace of satanic/masonic influence, no debts owed to goons from the two-party system era. If you are in a position to run for office, do it! And doh't be shy to say what you think; it will gain you more followers than you lose. |
Black Knight
(OP) User ID: 66996549 United States 09/14/2017 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are we Americans ok with that? Why are we still electing the same old useless bags of crap year after year ? Why are these people not behind bars? Quoting: Black Knight Good questions OP. More specifically, why are so many on GLP still lining up to vote within the two-party system each Election Day? Granted, the Democrats are not a viable choice, but you won't have difficulty finding GLPers who line up to vote for the Dems' "Republican" cousins. And please don't give me this shit about voting for third parties being equivalent to wasting a vote. Vote for people who can get the job done, who reflect values of humanity and justice and compassion, end of story! If the USA survives at all, it will be because the people boycotted the two major parties entirely and elected representatives who had no connection whatsoever to the previous ruling regime, no trace of satanic/masonic influence, no debts owed to goons from the two-party system era. If you are in a position to run for office, do it! And doh't be shy to say what you think; it will gain you more followers than you lose. This is a critical point my friend, thank you for making it. The State of Decay in America has two worthless, sellout asshole "parties" that are in actuality nothing but two turds, one stinking and the other smelling badly. Until the masses choose anything else the corruption is accepted by the people and cannot go away. We have been given an opportunity to see what a third party president would look like in Donald Trump and so far it is unclear as to whether it will be accepted to play our or not. In either case it is best in a growing number of minds to shitcan the elephants and the donkeys and grind their carcasses into dog food. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75109908 United States 09/14/2017 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Social Security was fine until that p.o.s. Clinton stole it to pay off the national debt and try and make himself look good....like that is even possible. Quoting: ~Jazzy~ It has been used as a bailout fund buy the asshats in office all the time to make themselves look good. I believe it was used to bailout the banking industry not too long ago by a rather large political type asshat. |
Black Knight
(OP) User ID: 66996549 United States 09/14/2017 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Social Security was fine until that p.o.s. Clinton stole it to pay off the national debt and try and make himself look good....like that is even possible. Quoting: ~Jazzy~ It has been used as a bailout fund buy the asshats in office all the time to make themselves look good. I believe it was used to bailout the banking industry not too long ago by a rather large political type asshat. Even a man that is pure of heart and says his prayers at night, may become a wolf when the Wolfbane blooms and the Autumn moon is bright. The US system has devolved into a farce where in order to get into office in the first place humans with no character, scruples, or morality are required to sell out, lie, and cheat their way into office. Trusting thieves and criminals of this sort with the lifesavings of an entire generation is folly. There can be NO solution to this problem but collapse. Last Edited by Black Knight on 09/14/2017 09:37 AM He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
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User ID: 74948773 United States 09/14/2017 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do touch screen voter machines always fuck up but touch screen ATM's operate near perfect in all types of weather day in, day out. Another one.... If oil was found in plenty on a Saturn Moon, that tells us one of two truths.... 1) We found evidence of extraterrestrial life or 2) We have proof oil is Abiotic, not from dead life and is renewable. Lots of these types of questions tells us one important truth. WE ARE LIED TOO Last Edited by -database- on 09/14/2017 09:40 AM Hesher was here! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75495924 Canada 09/14/2017 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same type of question as... Quoting: -database- Why do touch screen voter machines always fuck up but touch screen ATM's operate near perfect in all types of weather day in, day out. Another one.... If oil was found in plenty on a Saturn Moon, that tells us one of two truths.... 1) We found evidence of extraterrestrial life or 2) We have proof oil is Abiotic, not from dead life and is renewable. Lots of these types of questions tells us one important truth. WE ARE LIED TOO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75495924 Canada 09/14/2017 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wall street wants that social security money in the market, the banks want that money in their investment banks. They are manufacturing the problem so the money goes to the bankers and not the retirees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41123100 The bankers oppose social security and they own the government. Same for all pension funds. That was why the Mafia moved into trade unions. Those pension funds were essentially a big slush fund for all kinds of dirty dealings. Wall St. are the modern gangsters. |