Trump is NOT Ending DACA--He's giving Congress time to write a Bill to make it LAW-- | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75469741 United States 09/04/2017 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd bet DACA is a SAP. Looks/feels to me that Mexicans are being used in genetic and mind control experiments and operations. Since Trump's admin is rounding up illegals, much of the network they built up will be crippled. The dreamers, young, smart, able could be used as conduits to keep the status quo going (drug crime, human trafficking -- fund raising ops for deep state facilitated through SAPs and brainwashed people) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75469741 Also think this because it was initiated by Obama, deep state admin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60059365 United States 09/04/2017 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may be right OP, but lets give it time and see. If it doesn't pass and the wall does not get built we will have to rally behind a third party candidate next election. There is still time for these things to happen though. It hasn't even been a year yet. Lets wait until this time next year before we start this conversation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74303389 United States 09/04/2017 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know this sounds like the nutcase chiming in, but, oh, well: a lot of illegals are minions of the Targeted Individual program. They are clearly considered expendable and, thus, perfect stooges to wield directed energy weapons (which end up giving many of them cancer). What we're talking about is globalism gone wild and Mexicans serve the globalists' goals in much the same way as vengeful Muslims who've likewise been allowed into Europe en masse: destabilize the nation, cheap labor in general, expendable and easy to influence and control zombie army, 3rd world-ify the place (lessen the value of everything the rich fucks don't already own so it's cheaper to buy it all up), etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72621537 The easy fix, is to limit property ownership. Then all of the land and natural resources would not be continually moving into the control of the few. It's also, what gives the leadership away, in regards to their intention of only working for themselves and the rich and powerful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65061276 United States 09/04/2017 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to be reasonable. What Obama did was illegal. It is the congress that must write the bill. If Trump let DACA expire then what? Right now we don't have the resources to round up and deport 800k people. It is our job to make sure the congress critters bend to our will. Get busy now, be relentless. Write and call your critters daily until they get the message. Remember, these people are corrupt, only the threat of losing their cushy jobs will change their behavior. Quoting: ac 71920217 I don't understand what you are saying. If DACA expires, this segment of illegals will simply not be protected anymore and will be subject to the same deportation laws as the rest of the illegals. They will have no more rights than the other illegals. They will be under whatever procedures Trump come up with for the rest. Congress makes laws- so to send anything to them "to fix" will wind up in some kind of law- which sounds really bad- when all that to be done is to let the DACA thing "sunset" away. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75054451 United States 09/04/2017 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to be reasonable. What Obama did was illegal. It is the congress that must write the bill. If Trump let DACA expire then what? Right now we don't have the resources to round up and deport 800k people. It is our job to make sure the congress critters bend to our will. Get busy now, be relentless. Write and call your critters daily until they get the message. Remember, these people are corrupt, only the threat of losing their cushy jobs will change their behavior. Quoting: ac 71920217 I don't understand what you are saying. If DACA expires, this segment of illegals will simply not be protected anymore and will be subject to the same deportation laws as the rest of the illegals. They will have no more rights than the other illegals. They will be under whatever procedures Trump come up with for the rest. Congress makes laws- so to send anything to them "to fix" will wind up in some kind of law- which sounds really bad- when all that to be done is to let the DACA thing "sunset" away. Yep...the new "law" is already in progress. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48136367 United States 09/04/2017 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the love of God man do you have any critical thinking skill or actual logical thought process... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6590822 Do you react over emotionally and freak out like a woman before you think about things This post is one of the most pathetic, weak, pussy things I've ever read You sound like an absolute disaster... like you have the emotional fortitude of a child The President is ending DACA...DACA is not a law or an executive order...it was a memo from homeland security given as a directive from Obama Trump is now giving his enemies in co guess a chance to expose themselves again to the voting base as pure globalist frauds before 2018...another master stroke by the President The republicans won't be able to pass anything so it will disappear forever If the establishment manages to pass something they will all be voted out as globalist establishment scum Get a grip dude ... learn some strategy So in your moronic version of a "strategy"... Trumps "enemies" will expose themselves by passing a new law to defend illegals.. So the outcome is "enemies" which may or may not be already known.. will grant citizenship to dreamers by putting a new law on the books.. Sounds like a win.. for a retard They could be granted "resident alien" status without being made citizens, which they are not. Here is a newsflash for you. The US is NEVER going to see a law passed that authorizes the removal of all illegal aliens. Its not going to happen. You can either make the best out of the options available or continue to whine. The smart thing to do is divide and conquer. A compromise bill that allows DACA people, (and perhaps immediate family) to stay in return for funding the wall, ending sanctuary cities, welfare for illegals and ending the anchor baby policy. Give 3 to 4 million people "permanent resident" status, not citizenship, in exchange for clamping down on the other 10 million. That creates a wedge issue between the 10 million and the 4 million. Divide and conquer. Thats how you play. No they all go The law has been on the books for a long time. Illegal means just that. Bye bye. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35883326 United States 09/04/2017 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the love of God man do you have any critical thinking skill or actual logical thought process... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6590822 Do you react over emotionally and freak out like a woman before you think about things This post is one of the most pathetic, weak, pussy things I've ever read You sound like an absolute disaster... like you have the emotional fortitude of a child The President is ending DACA...DACA is not a law or an executive order...it was a memo from homeland security given as a directive from Obama Trump is now giving his enemies in co guess a chance to expose themselves again to the voting base as pure globalist frauds before 2018...another master stroke by the President The republicans won't be able to pass anything so it will disappear forever If the establishment manages to pass something they will all be voted out as globalist establishment scum Get a grip dude ... learn some strategy So in your moronic version of a "strategy"... Trumps "enemies" will expose themselves by passing a new law to defend illegals.. So the outcome is "enemies" which may or may not be already known.. will grant citizenship to dreamers by putting a new law on the books.. Sounds like a win.. for a retard They could be granted "resident alien" status without being made citizens, which they are not. Here is a newsflash for you. The US is NEVER going to see a law passed that authorizes the removal of all illegal aliens. Its not going to happen. You can either make the best out of the options available or continue to whine. The smart thing to do is divide and conquer. A compromise bill that allows DACA people, (and perhaps immediate family) to stay in return for funding the wall, ending sanctuary cities, welfare for illegals and ending the anchor baby policy. Give 3 to 4 million people "permanent resident" status, not citizenship, in exchange for clamping down on the other 10 million. That creates a wedge issue between the 10 million and the 4 million. Divide and conquer. Thats how you play. No they all go The law has been on the books for a long time. Illegal means just that. Bye bye. Let me know when that happens, asshat. Pound sand while you're waiting. You really think this congress is going to do that? Then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you also. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65061276 United States 09/04/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74604727 So in your moronic version of a "strategy"... Trumps "enemies" will expose themselves by passing a new law to defend illegals.. So the outcome is "enemies" which may or may not be already known.. will grant citizenship to dreamers by putting a new law on the books.. Sounds like a win.. for a retard They could be granted "resident alien" status without being made citizens, which they are not. Here is a newsflash for you. The US is NEVER going to see a law passed that authorizes the removal of all illegal aliens. Its not going to happen. You can either make the best out of the options available or continue to whine. The smart thing to do is divide and conquer. A compromise bill that allows DACA people, (and perhaps immediate family) to stay in return for funding the wall, ending sanctuary cities, welfare for illegals and ending the anchor baby policy. Give 3 to 4 million people "permanent resident" status, not citizenship, in exchange for clamping down on the other 10 million. That creates a wedge issue between the 10 million and the 4 million. Divide and conquer. Thats how you play. No they all go The law has been on the books for a long time. Illegal means just that. Bye bye. Let me know when that happens, asshat. Pound sand while you're waiting. You really think this congress is going to do that? Then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you also. These things can be done: 1. Have inspections of the businesses most likely to hire illegals. 2. Fine and jail those- with serious fines and serious prison sentences- who have hired them. 3. Have a verification that can be used by businesses to verify the person they hire is a citizen or legal immigrant. 4. Send all people in US tamper proof Social Security cards. 5. Do away with birthright citizenship. 6. Require tamper proof Social Security cards and other proof before giving out any welfare/social services or allowing any kind of school enrollment. 7. Make illegal immigration a felony and jail ones in the future for up to five years. LET DACA SUNSET. As for H1B and other worker visas- Require employers to pay the H1B workers the same as the prevailing US salary for the work- so no more firing of US employees to hire foreigners. Outsourcing: Do not let US businesses who outsource send back their goods to sell in the US. Take away any tax incentives they may have. Cut regulation/cost for US businesses and give the tax breaks to them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65061276 United States 09/04/2017 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35883326 They could be granted "resident alien" status without being made citizens, which they are not. Here is a newsflash for you. The US is NEVER going to see a law passed that authorizes the removal of all illegal aliens. Its not going to happen. You can either make the best out of the options available or continue to whine. The smart thing to do is divide and conquer. A compromise bill that allows DACA people, (and perhaps immediate family) to stay in return for funding the wall, ending sanctuary cities, welfare for illegals and ending the anchor baby policy. Give 3 to 4 million people "permanent resident" status, not citizenship, in exchange for clamping down on the other 10 million. That creates a wedge issue between the 10 million and the 4 million. Divide and conquer. Thats how you play. No they all go The law has been on the books for a long time. Illegal means just that. Bye bye. Let me know when that happens, asshat. Pound sand while you're waiting. You really think this congress is going to do that? Then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you also. These things can be done: 1. Have inspections of the businesses most likely to hire illegals. 2. Fine and jail those- with serious fines and serious prison sentences- who have hired them. 3. Have a verification that can be used by businesses to verify the person they hire is a citizen or legal immigrant. 4. Send all people in US tamper proof Social Security cards. 5. Do away with birthright citizenship. 6. Require tamper proof Social Security cards and other proof before giving out any welfare/social services or allowing any kind of school enrollment. 7. Make illegal immigration a felony and jail ones in the future for up to five years. LET DACA SUNSET. As for H1B and other worker visas- Require employers to pay the H1B workers the same as the prevailing US salary for the work- so no more firing of US employees to hire foreigners. Outsourcing: Do not let US businesses who outsource send back their goods to sell in the US. Take away any tax incentives they may have. Cut regulation/cost for US businesses and give the tax breaks to them. Oh, and of course- THE FENCE- a huge tall, thick one. Even so, there will be illegals, including some visa overstays- but the incentives for them to be here will not be there- so there will probably be a 90% reduction. No work, no tax payer subsidized living, probable serious jail time, no anchor baby scam, no reasons to be here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65061276 United States 09/04/2017 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU SIR ARE 100% correct Quoting: jake and Paul Ryan has already written a bill making it permanent if they pass it, they will never be elected again Of course they will stupid they always get re elected no matter what they do just look at John McCain Anyone observant at all and who cares, can already see how the rinos obstruct everything their people want. There is no reason to send DACA to them. It's an illegal Obama "directive" that will just die if left alone!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65061276 United States 09/04/2017 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | During the primaries...moran. There are primaries in our elections. My candidate didn't win the primary, so I supported Trump in the GE...do you understand that, or are you still working on your 8th grade diploma? I voted for him in the primaries and in the general election. Of course there are many screwed up things and issues I want to see chanced. My main two were/are: Do something drastic concerning illegal and crazy/excessive legal immigration Keep Hillary from starting WW3 |