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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137378  United States10/02/2017 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75582952 There is no free ticket to Heavens for anyone. You get to strive to keep the Law of God ruling there. True and False Disciples 21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ [link to biblehub.com] Those people were never saved to begin with, as the lord never knew them. They are those people who thought, as you, that they could somehow earn their way to Heaven. You will never be acceptable to God by your works. They are 'as filthy rags'. The clear teaching of scripture is justification by faith. The works you do thereafter by the Spirit are because the Holy Spirit is within you. Your quoted scripture proves you wrong, not right. No,it'proves him right. The accurate translation isn't evildoers, but workers of lawlessness, i.e. practitioners of no law. And the wa given to be kept so that righteousness might be attained throught it (Deu. 6:25). Your Paulianity is the exact opposite of both Jesus' and the Hebrew Bible. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] Get behind us satan! You who want to be UNDER THE LAW do NOT HEAR what THE LAW SAYS: The LAW SAYS: ABRAHAM HAS TWO SONS Why ARE YOU A WORKER OF LAWLESSNESS.? the very people who claim that workers of lawlessness are those who don't rely on the works of the law of Moses are the very workers of lawlessness!. How can you not hear that the very people who agreed through pride and flesh that their own obedience to works of the law would be their righteousness WILL NEVER BE AN INHERITOR OF GOD'S PROMISE.? You don't understand the gospel of Christ according to the book of Matthew. |
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 User ID: 74149096 United States10/03/2017 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Christ himself says to the twelve that his message isn't to the Gentiles or Samaritans why don't you believe that... so in your mind Christ is a liar... Matt 15:24 "I am not sent, but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matt 10:5 "Theses tweleve did Jesus send forth and COMMANDED THEM, saying Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the cities of the Sameritians enter ye not" What part of this don't you understand....? freedomsnotfree1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57230257 United States10/03/2017 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Christ himself says to the twelve that his message isn't to the Gentiles or Samaritans why don't you believe that... so in your mind Christ is a liar... Matt 15:24 "I am not sent, but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matt 10:5 "Theses tweleve did Jesus send forth and COMMANDED THEM, saying Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the cities of the Sameritians enter ye not" What part of this don't you understand....? Its because you don't understand who Israel is. Israel is all those of all genetics who will hear His voice. You should read these two verses closely. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 28:19-20 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56664088 United States10/04/2017 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are in the age of grace. Quoting: Expose ALL Shills 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: God Bless! Amen! - |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72974137 United States10/04/2017 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are in the age of grace. Quoting: Expose ALL Shills 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: God Bless! Amen! - Sorry, there is no separate age of grace for Gentiles. All men are redeemed by the gospel of Christ. Can you tell me how that gospel says men are redeemed? |
| freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 74149096 United States10/04/2017 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are in the age of grace. Quoting: Expose ALL Shills 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: God Bless! Amen! - Sorry, there is no separate age of grace for Gentiles. All men are redeemed by the gospel of Christ. Can you tell me how that gospel says men are redeemed? Christ came to set up the priesthood and bring in the kingdom, he was ONLY addressing Israel because only pure blooded Israelites could be in the priesthood. The Israelites could then go and perform the "great commission" which was to take this message of the king and kingdom to the gentile world... THEY REJECTED THIS! Pauls message is given to the gentile world at least 10 years AFTER Pentecost and was unheard of by the 12. Why was the church at antioch called "christian" while those in Jersalem weren't...? Why was Peter looking for tribulation and Paul looking for rapture...? Why does James state salvation comes through works plus faith while Paul states salvation is based on faith only...? Different message to a different group of people under a different dispensation... Israel was saved just like James stated... works (law) PLUS faith The body is saved by faith alone... freedomsnotfree1 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137378 United States10/05/2017 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are in the age of grace. Quoting: Expose ALL Shills 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: God Bless! Amen! - Sorry, there is no separate age of grace for Gentiles. All men are redeemed by the gospel of Christ. Can you tell me how that gospel says men are redeemed? Christ came to set up the priesthood and bring in the kingdom, he was ONLY addressing Israel because only pure blooded Israelites could be in the priesthood. The Israelites could then go and perform the "great commission" which was to take this message of the king and kingdom to the gentile world... THEY REJECTED THIS! Pauls message is given to the gentile world at least 10 years AFTER Pentecost and was unheard of by the 12. Why was the church at antioch called "christian" while those in Jersalem weren't...? Why was Peter looking for tribulation and Paul looking for rapture...? Why does James state salvation comes through works plus faith while Paul states salvation is based on faith only...? Different message to a different group of people under a different dispensation... Israel was saved just like James stated... works (law) PLUS faith The body is saved by faith alone... Thanks for giving the honest church position on this topic. But there are a few huge problems with it. The number one thing is history proves your answer is not possible. Any novice study of the history of the Israelite peoples will show us that they generally ceased to be a cohesive peoples around the time Solomon was king. After his two sons ruled we saw the northern ten tribes go into Assyrian captivity. They never came back. Then 70 years later the southern kingdom of Judah and Benjamin went into Babylonian captivity. History shows that only 40,000 "j.e.w.s" returned to Israel. And many of them were not physical Israelites. This all happened some 700 years before Christ was born. 99.9% of the peoples who were physically Israelites never heard Christ speak a single word. So how could they rejected Him while He was alive? No, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the gospel Christ taught is for all men. He said so Himself. Its Paul's false gospel that is sending people to Hell. We are saved by obedience. Its the grace of God that allows us to be saved by works. Its our works that prove ourselves to Him. Lastly. If what you said had been true, how could you know a Israelite from a gentile? Is there some blood test needed to know what plan of salvation I should qualify for? |
| freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 74149096 United States10/05/2017 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, there is no separate age of grace for Gentiles. All men are redeemed by the gospel of Christ. Can you tell me how that gospel says men are redeemed? Christ came to set up the priesthood and bring in the kingdom, he was ONLY addressing Israel because only pure blooded Israelites could be in the priesthood. The Israelites could then go and perform the "great commission" which was to take this message of the king and kingdom to the gentile world... THEY REJECTED THIS! Pauls message is given to the gentile world at least 10 years AFTER Pentecost and was unheard of by the 12. Why was the church at antioch called "christian" while those in Jersalem weren't...? Why was Peter looking for tribulation and Paul looking for rapture...? Why does James state salvation comes through works plus faith while Paul states salvation is based on faith only...? Different message to a different group of people under a different dispensation... Israel was saved just like James stated... works (law) PLUS faith The body is saved by faith alone... Thanks for giving the honest church position on this topic. But there are a few huge problems with it. The number one thing is history proves your answer is not possible. Any novice study of the history of the Israelite peoples will show us that they generally ceased to be a cohesive peoples around the time Solomon was king. After his two sons ruled we saw the northern ten tribes go into Assyrian captivity. They never came back. Then 70 years later the southern kingdom of Judah and Benjamin went into Babylonian captivity. History shows that only 40,000 "j.e.w.s" returned to Israel. And many of them were not physical Israelites. This all happened some 700 years before Christ was born. 99.9% of the peoples who were physically Israelites never heard Christ speak a single word. So how could they rejected Him while He was alive? No, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the gospel Christ taught is for all men. He said so Himself. Its Paul's false gospel that is sending people to Hell. We are saved by obedience. Its the grace of God that allows us to be saved by works. Its our works that prove ourselves to Him. Lastly. If what you said had been true, how could you know a Israelite from a gentile? Is there some blood test needed to know what plan of salvation I should qualify for? not only are you in direct contradiction to Christs own commands, as I've noted in Matt, you think yourself qualified to pick and chose what part of the bible is inspired by the holy spirit... freedomsnotfree1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137378 United States10/05/2017 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72974137 Sorry, there is no separate age of grace for Gentiles. All men are redeemed by the gospel of Christ. Can you tell me how that gospel says men are redeemed? Christ came to set up the priesthood and bring in the kingdom, he was ONLY addressing Israel because only pure blooded Israelites could be in the priesthood. The Israelites could then go and perform the "great commission" which was to take this message of the king and kingdom to the gentile world... THEY REJECTED THIS! Pauls message is given to the gentile world at least 10 years AFTER Pentecost and was unheard of by the 12. Why was the church at antioch called "christian" while those in Jersalem weren't...? Why was Peter looking for tribulation and Paul looking for rapture...? Why does James state salvation comes through works plus faith while Paul states salvation is based on faith only...? Different message to a different group of people under a different dispensation... Israel was saved just like James stated... works (law) PLUS faith The body is saved by faith alone... Thanks for giving the honest church position on this topic. But there are a few huge problems with it. The number one thing is history proves your answer is not possible. Any novice study of the history of the Israelite peoples will show us that they generally ceased to be a cohesive peoples around the time Solomon was king. After his two sons ruled we saw the northern ten tribes go into Assyrian captivity. They never came back. Then 70 years later the southern kingdom of Judah and Benjamin went into Babylonian captivity. History shows that only 40,000 "j.e.w.s" returned to Israel. And many of them were not physical Israelites. This all happened some 700 years before Christ was born. 99.9% of the peoples who were physically Israelites never heard Christ speak a single word. So how could they rejected Him while He was alive? No, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the gospel Christ taught is for all men. He said so Himself. Its Paul's false gospel that is sending people to Hell. We are saved by obedience. Its the grace of God that allows us to be saved by works. Its our works that prove ourselves to Him. Lastly. If what you said had been true, how could you know a Israelite from a gentile? Is there some blood test needed to know what plan of salvation I should qualify for? not only are you in direct contradiction to Christs own commands, as I've noted in Matt, you think yourself qualified to pick and chose what part of the bible is inspired by the holy spirit... Maybe you should enlighten yourself and do some research on how the bible was constructed. Its because you don't understand who Israel is. Israel is all those of all genetics who will hear His voice. You should read these two verses closely. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 28:19-20 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. |
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User ID: 74149096 United States10/06/2017 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 Christ came to set up the priesthood and bring in the kingdom, he was ONLY addressing Israel because only pure blooded Israelites could be in the priesthood. The Israelites could then go and perform the "great commission" which was to take this message of the king and kingdom to the gentile world... THEY REJECTED THIS! Pauls message is given to the gentile world at least 10 years AFTER Pentecost and was unheard of by the 12. Why was the church at antioch called "christian" while those in Jersalem weren't...? Why was Peter looking for tribulation and Paul looking for rapture...? Why does James state salvation comes through works plus faith while Paul states salvation is based on faith only...? Different message to a different group of people under a different dispensation... Israel was saved just like James stated... works (law) PLUS faith The body is saved by faith alone... Thanks for giving the honest church position on this topic. But there are a few huge problems with it. The number one thing is history proves your answer is not possible. Any novice study of the history of the Israelite peoples will show us that they generally ceased to be a cohesive peoples around the time Solomon was king. After his two sons ruled we saw the northern ten tribes go into Assyrian captivity. They never came back. Then 70 years later the southern kingdom of Judah and Benjamin went into Babylonian captivity. History shows that only 40,000 "j.e.w.s" returned to Israel. And many of them were not physical Israelites. This all happened some 700 years before Christ was born. 99.9% of the peoples who were physically Israelites never heard Christ speak a single word. So how could they rejected Him while He was alive? No, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the gospel Christ taught is for all men. He said so Himself. Its Paul's false gospel that is sending people to Hell. We are saved by obedience. Its the grace of God that allows us to be saved by works. Its our works that prove ourselves to Him. Lastly. If what you said had been true, how could you know a Israelite from a gentile? Is there some blood test needed to know what plan of salvation I should qualify for? not only are you in direct contradiction to Christs own commands, as I've noted in Matt, you think yourself qualified to pick and chose what part of the bible is inspired by the holy spirit... Maybe you should enlighten yourself and do some research on how the bible was constructed. Its because you don't understand who Israel is. Israel is all those of all genetics who will hear His voice. You should read these two verses closely. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 28:19-20 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Thanks but I'll stick with the instructions GOD gave us... Jesus and the 12 are speaking to Israel... the holy spirit, through Paul instructs the gentile world to follow him... freedomsnotfree1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137378 United States10/06/2017 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137378 Thanks for giving the honest church position on this topic. But there are a few huge problems with it. The number one thing is history proves your answer is not possible. Any novice study of the history of the Israelite peoples will show us that they generally ceased to be a cohesive peoples around the time Solomon was king. After his two sons ruled we saw the northern ten tribes go into Assyrian captivity. They never came back. Then 70 years later the southern kingdom of Judah and Benjamin went into Babylonian captivity. History shows that only 40,000 "j.e.w.s" returned to Israel. And many of them were not physical Israelites. This all happened some 700 years before Christ was born. 99.9% of the peoples who were physically Israelites never heard Christ speak a single word. So how could they rejected Him while He was alive? No, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the gospel Christ taught is for all men. He said so Himself. Its Paul's false gospel that is sending people to Hell. We are saved by obedience. Its the grace of God that allows us to be saved by works. Its our works that prove ourselves to Him. Lastly. If what you said had been true, how could you know a Israelite from a gentile? Is there some blood test needed to know what plan of salvation I should qualify for? not only are you in direct contradiction to Christs own commands, as I've noted in Matt, you think yourself qualified to pick and chose what part of the bible is inspired by the holy spirit... Maybe you should enlighten yourself and do some research on how the bible was constructed. Its because you don't understand who Israel is. Israel is all those of all genetics who will hear His voice. You should read these two verses closely. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 28:19-20 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Thanks but I'll stick with the instructions GOD gave us... Jesus and the 12 are speaking to Israel... the holy spirit, through Paul instructs the gentile world to follow him... Suit yourself. I'd recommend you stay away from any further leaning as will only conflict with your delusion. Israel didn't exist as a people when Christ lived. That's a fact that you can not ignore. Is your faith in the opinion that the bible is perfect or is your faith in God? Your responses indicate the later. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75409848 United States11/17/2017 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are in the age of grace. Quoting: Expose ALL Shills 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: God Bless! Amen! - Sorry, there is no separate age of grace for Gentiles. All men are redeemed by the gospel of Christ. Can you tell me how that gospel says men are redeemed? Christ came to set up the priesthood and bring in the kingdom, he was ONLY addressing Israel because only pure blooded Israelites could be in the priesthood. The Israelites could then go and perform the "great commission" which was to take this message of the king and kingdom to the gentile world... THEY REJECTED THIS! Pauls message is given to the gentile world at least 10 years AFTER Pentecost and was unheard of by the 12. Why was the church at antioch called "christian" while those in Jersalem weren't...? Why was Peter looking for tribulation and Paul looking for rapture...? Why does James state salvation comes through works plus faith while Paul states salvation is based on faith only...? Different message to a different group of people under a different dispensation... Israel was saved just like James stated... works (law) PLUS faith The body is saved by faith alone...  |
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User ID: 75520996 United States11/25/2017 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he does. He was writing letters, not scripture. I don't trust the three synoptic gospels, either. I only trust John. I just love how Christians will quote Paul's letter about how all scripture is for our edification and that we should not change a word of it. At the time that the letter was written, the scriptures were the OT. You can't take a letter that says to believe all scripture and then call that letter scripture. It's a circular argument that does not work. You don't need anything but Isaiah to understand everything about who God is and who Yeshua is and what is going to happen. I love Paul, and I do love a lot of his insights, but I do not consider his letters to be scripture, just good, wise insights, but not always in line with the actual teachings of the Messiah. I base my faith on the Book of Acts mostly, and the OT. Anyway, the Vatican decided what would be scripture and what was not, which is the best conspiracy of all. They changed a lot of the Hebrew translations into the worst possible interpretation of the words. Much of the truth has been lost in translation, and many scribes kept the lie going. If you want some teaching on the Hebrew Scriptures with a view of Yeshua as Messiah, look for Israeli News Live on youtube. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71370252  United Kingdom11/25/2017 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he does. He was writing letters, not scripture. I don't trust the three synoptic gospels, either. I only trust John. I just love how Christians will quote Paul's letter about how all scripture is for our edification and that we should not change a word of it. At the time that the letter was written, the scriptures were the OT. You can't take a letter that says to believe all scripture and then call that letter scripture. It's a circular argument that does not work. You don't need anything but Isaiah to understand everything about who God is and who Yeshua is and what is going to happen. I love Paul, and I do love a lot of his insights, but I do not consider his letters to be scripture, just good, wise insights, but not always in line with the actual teachings of the Messiah. I base my faith on the Book of Acts mostly, and the OT. Anyway, the Vatican decided what would be scripture and what was not, which is the best conspiracy of all. They changed a lot of the Hebrew translations into the worst possible interpretation of the words. Much of the truth has been lost in translation, and many scribes kept the lie going. If you want some teaching on the Hebrew Scriptures with a view of Yeshua as Messiah, look for Israeli News Live on youtube. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] By this gospel you are saved. Why? It's the power of God unto salvation. That gospel and its chief messenger - it's 'arch angel' - will deliver all found in the book of life, |
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| freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 74149096 United States11/25/2017 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he does. He was writing letters, not scripture. I don't trust the three synoptic gospels, either. I only trust John.. I base my faith on the Book of Acts mostly, and the OT. Anyway, the Vatican decided what would be scripture and what was not, which is the best conspiracy of all. They changed a lot of the Hebrew translations into the worst possible interpretation of the words. Much of the truth has been lost in translation, and many scribes kept the lie going. If you want some teaching on the Hebrew Scriptures with a view of Yeshua as Messiah, look for Israeli News Live on youtube. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] By this gospel you are saved. Why? It's the power of God unto salvation. That gospel and its chief messenger - it's 'arch angel' - will deliver all found in the book of life, You're GOD is A LOT smaller than mine... if GOD'S message could be altered by man, he wouldn't be much of a GOD would he. Acts is a transitional chapter moving from one dispensation, or method of salvation to another...Jesus himself tells us PLAINLY in Matthew that his message is to House of Israel, (Jewish people), ONLY... but you choose NOT to believe this statement of Jesus... Pauls's message is a completely different message, to a completely different people. Paul's message of "faith only" was unknown to the 12 apostles and didn't come into the world until AT LEAST 10 years after Pentecost. NOWHERE, even during the 40 days that Christ walked on earth after his resurrection, did he release the 12 from the law, NOWHERE. The term "Christian" was completely unheard of until Antioch, Paul's church congregation and, probably 13 years after the death of Christ... Why weren't the people at the Jerusalem church called "Christians"? because they weren't... they were Hebrews practicing Judaism... Some, like Peter and the other 11, just believed that Jesus was the promised Messiah or coming king, while the vast majority didn't... those that believed Christ was that promised, coming king were called Messianic believers,as they are today, NOT Christians. They discount the teaching of Paul... You've already stated you don't believe the truth of GOD. You don't believe the holy spirit when he tells us Paul's message is to the gentile world... You don't believe Christ's earthly message, which was to Israel only, to establish the priesthood and bring in the kingdom... what do you call your belief system... it's clearly not in line with the word and truth of GOD. Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 11/25/2017 10:40 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75409848 United States11/26/2017 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he does. He was writing letters, not scripture. I don't trust the three synoptic gospels, either. I only trust John. I just love how Christians will quote Paul's letter about how all scripture is for our edification and that we should not change a word of it. At the time that the letter was written, the scriptures were the OT. You can't take a letter that says to believe all scripture and then call that letter scripture. It's a circular argument that does not work. You don't need anything but Isaiah to understand everything about who God is and who Yeshua is and what is going to happen. I love Paul, and I do love a lot of his insights, but I do not consider his letters to be scripture, just good, wise insights, but not always in line with the actual teachings of the Messiah. I base my faith on the Book of Acts mostly, and the OT. Anyway, the Vatican decided what would be scripture and what was not, which is the best conspiracy of all. They changed a lot of the Hebrew translations into the worst possible interpretation of the words. Much of the truth has been lost in translation, and many scribes kept the lie going. If you want some teaching on the Hebrew Scriptures with a view of Yeshua as Messiah, look for Israeli News Live on youtube. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Rightly divide the Word of Truth |
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