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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68560474 United States 07/28/2017 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After 12 years - and aren't they supposed to last longer? - my oven has given out and the gas range needs to be replaced. I'm wanting to get a battery ignition model so the oven works when the power is out and because everything that ever went wrong the the dead one was electronic. I don't need bells and whistles, I need reliability. Quoting: Kamchatka Does anyone have any experience with Premier stoves? G.E. Hotpoint also makes a couple, I think. We use natural gas, not propane, so that leaves out some brands. And my kitchen is very small, so it can't be bigger than 30". Any advice or insight greatly appreciated. Thanks! Setup a small solar system with battery and inverter to supply the 110v you need for stove and oven ignition. You will likely use the solar system for other things as well so do it right, and you can get a less expensive stove. |
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(OP) Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 57291893 United States 07/28/2017 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After 12 years - and aren't they supposed to last longer? - my oven has given out and the gas range needs to be replaced. I'm wanting to get a battery ignition model so the oven works when the power is out and because everything that ever went wrong the the dead one was electronic. I don't need bells and whistles, I need reliability. Quoting: Kamchatka Does anyone have any experience with Premier stoves? G.E. Hotpoint also makes a couple, I think. We use natural gas, not propane, so that leaves out some brands. And my kitchen is very small, so it can't be bigger than 30". Any advice or insight greatly appreciated. Thanks! Setup a small solar system with battery and inverter to supply the 110v you need for stove and oven ignition. You will likely use the solar system for other things as well so do it right, and you can get a less expensive stove. Pretty good idea, but I'm thinking that setting up the solar would be way more expensive than the $500 stove. Don't know much about it, though, so please do correct me if I'm wrong. More deplorable all the time. |
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User ID: 75121144 United States 07/28/2017 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have the Peerless Premier and love it. Don't exactly know how many years I've had it, but it's considerable. Still as reliable as it was the day it came. No electricity needed to have oven work. It's an awesome stove. Doubt you'd be disappointed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74873911 United States 07/28/2017 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After 12 years - and aren't they supposed to last longer? - my oven has given out and the gas range needs to be replaced. I'm wanting to get a battery ignition model so the oven works when the power is out and because everything that ever went wrong the the dead one was electronic. I don't need bells and whistles, I need reliability. Quoting: Kamchatka Does anyone have any experience with Premier stoves? G.E. Hotpoint also makes a couple, I think. We use natural gas, not propane, so that leaves out some brands. And my kitchen is very small, so it can't be bigger than 30". Any advice or insight greatly appreciated. Thanks! Setup a small solar system with battery and inverter to supply the 110v you need for stove and oven ignition. You will likely use the solar system for other things as well so do it right, and you can get a less expensive stove. Pretty good idea, but I'm thinking that setting up the solar would be way more expensive than the $500 stove. Don't know much about it, though, so please do correct me if I'm wrong. It's worse than that. The electricity is not just for ignition in the stove part, although it is just for ignition on the cooktop burners. There is a "glow bar" in the stove which is always on when the gas is flowing and consumes hundreds of watts. The oven does not just use a spark like the burners or a furnace, due to some lawyers, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74873911 United States 07/28/2017 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GE has a 4 burner stove/oven range that uses a 9 volt battery. Special order at Lowes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74873911 Have been looking at that one. Menards and Sears also sell it. Have been kind of leaning towards this one because it has a large oven. It comes with orifices for both natural gas and propane. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24872782 United States 07/28/2017 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, What about a free standing, pilot light type. We have a (GE) Americana (that was made in Mexico). Works great and no batteries or that dam glow bar that takes thousands of watts. Off grid, have solar. Didn't want to use our precious electricity to the oven use. Or have to run a generator. Bought at a place that sells reconditioned (to like new) appliances. Was around $250. |
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(OP) Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 57291893 United States 07/28/2017 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have the Peerless Premier and love it. Don't exactly know how many years I've had it, but it's considerable. Still as reliable as it was the day it came. No electricity needed to have oven work. It's an awesome stove. Doubt you'd be disappointed. Quoting: Nine's Thank you! Would you mind sharing what model you use? Premier stove works is only about 150 miles from me and I'm considering scheduling a visit. Several vendors around here sell them but no one keeps one in stock because they're not upscale and flashy (and they also don't cost $2k). I really like to get to see what I'm buying. I am already getting very tired of using one burner and a "convection" oven that is a modestly glorified toaster oven. And it's only been a couple of weeks. Guess I need to work on my resilience! More deplorable all the time. |
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User ID: 75121144 United States 07/28/2017 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have the Peerless Premier and love it. Don't exactly know how many years I've had it, but it's considerable. Still as reliable as it was the day it came. No electricity needed to have oven work. It's an awesome stove. Doubt you'd be disappointed. Quoting: Nine's Thank you! Would you mind sharing what model you use? Premier stove works is only about 150 miles from me and I'm considering scheduling a visit. Several vendors around here sell them but no one keeps one in stock because they're not upscale and flashy (and they also don't cost $2k). I really like to get to see what I'm buying. I am already getting very tired of using one burner and a "convection" oven that is a modestly glorified toaster oven. And it's only been a couple of weeks. Guess I need to work on my resilience! You're very welcome. Looked in the book and I don't see the model number there. I looked it up and it seems to be SLK849WP. It's the last one on this link: [link to www.premierrange.com (secure)] If that's a five burner, with griddle in middle and side compartment for storage, it's the right model. The middle section can be either solid, showing the 5th burner, or use a griddle. Storing the middle section in the side compartment isn't a good idea because the heat won't do the surface of the cover any good. Mine has a clock and timer and if you want to use that, you'd need electricity. Never realized until scouring the book that it's a battery spark ignition. I've never replaced or had the battery replaced, so they're obviously long lived things. 8) It's not fancy, but it's made in USA, reliable, have never had any problem with it, and it's just awesome. Hope whatever you choose you're as satisfied with it as I am this one. No, it can't be that model. Will keep looking and see if I can find it, but it's the one I described with 5 burner, middle grill, side compartment. Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 07/28/2017 12:28 PM |
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User ID: 15084590 United States 07/28/2017 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After 12 years - and aren't they supposed to last longer? - my oven has given out and the gas range needs to be replaced. I'm wanting to get a battery ignition model so the oven works when the power is out and because everything that ever went wrong the the dead one was electronic. I don't need bells and whistles, I need reliability. Quoting: Kamchatka Does anyone have any experience with Premier stoves? G.E. Hotpoint also makes a couple, I think. We use natural gas, not propane, so that leaves out some brands. And my kitchen is very small, so it can't be bigger than 30". Any advice or insight greatly appreciated. Thanks! Setup a small solar system with battery and inverter to supply the 110v you need for stove and oven ignition. You will likely use the solar system for other things as well so do it right, and you can get a less expensive stove. Pretty good idea, but I'm thinking that setting up the solar would be way more expensive than the $500 stove. Don't know much about it, though, so please do correct me if I'm wrong. Standing Pilot that is the only way to go. When you turn the knob and allow gas to escape into your kitchen....? You want it to light and not be 'iffy'!!!! I believe you can still get a Premiere brand standing pilot ignition stove with no electric plug... it will be a well-built but Plain-Jane model. I have a GE that is 23 years old, it is a gem and works perfect on my off-grid system... works like brand new every day... works its ass off for me as I cook from scratch. It also raised three hungry boys, and bakes the best bread. The warm oven from the pilot light raises bread perfectly. I tried a 'clicker' type fancy-ass range one time with all the bells and whistles, and disliked it so much it went straight back to the store that day. Electric Glow-bars that have to get raging hot to light the oven are the big problem, as it ruins your batteries immediately. By all means enlighten me if there is an alternative to the glow-bar in the oven... that would be an improvement. A link would be appreciated. Thanks and Good luck... happy cookin'!!! TOL "All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce |
Nine's
User ID: 75121144 United States 07/28/2017 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I will see if I can find the receipt for the model number...which is doubtful. The battery thing seems to be another model? Not sure. Was just reading in the owners manual "Operating Your Spark Ignition Range During An Electrical Power Failure." Doesn't seem that "spark ignition" would use a battery? I know it doesn't have a pilot light burning all the time and uses very little gas. The burners cook food quickly at a very low heat. Whatever it is, looks like the one in the bottom pic of the link I previously posted. Sorry, I'm not good with things like that, which is why I'm so happy to have a reliable one. The company is very good answering any question you may have about a particular model. 8) |
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(OP) Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 57291893 United States 07/28/2017 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After 12 years - and aren't they supposed to last longer? - my oven has given out and the gas range needs to be replaced. I'm wanting to get a battery ignition model so the oven works when the power is out and because everything that ever went wrong the the dead one was electronic. I don't need bells and whistles, I need reliability. Quoting: Kamchatka Does anyone have any experience with Premier stoves? G.E. Hotpoint also makes a couple, I think. We use natural gas, not propane, so that leaves out some brands. And my kitchen is very small, so it can't be bigger than 30". Any advice or insight greatly appreciated. Thanks! Setup a small solar system with battery and inverter to supply the 110v you need for stove and oven ignition. You will likely use the solar system for other things as well so do it right, and you can get a less expensive stove. Pretty good idea, but I'm thinking that setting up the solar would be way more expensive than the $500 stove. Don't know much about it, though, so please do correct me if I'm wrong. Standing Pilot that is the only way to go. When you turn the knob and allow gas to escape into your kitchen....? You want it to light and not be 'iffy'!!!! I believe you can still get a Premiere brand standing pilot ignition stove with no electric plug... it will be a well-built but Plain-Jane model. I have a GE that is 23 years old, it is a gem and works perfect on my off-grid system... works like brand new every day... works its ass off for me as I cook from scratch. It also raised three hungry boys, and bakes the best bread. The warm oven from the pilot light raises bread perfectly. I tried a 'clicker' type fancy-ass range one time with all the bells and whistles, and disliked it so much it went straight back to the store that day. Electric Glow-bars that have to get raging hot to light the oven are the big problem, as it ruins your batteries immediately. By all means enlighten me if there is an alternative to the glow-bar in the oven... that would be an improvement. A link would be appreciated. Thanks and Good luck... happy cookin'!!! TOL Thanks! Any electronic ignition range I have seen has the freaking glow bar. Everything that has ever gone wrong with the current (dead) stove has been related to the glow bar. I never, ever want to see one again. I don't think it's legal for a business to sell a stove with standing pilot light in Missouri. I have been looking around for a good vintage stove to no avail. It's good to hear a positive review for GE. ANY stove I get is going to be plain Jane and no bells and whistles. Still weighing between Premier and GE. More deplorable all the time. |
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(OP) Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 57291893 United States 07/28/2017 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I will see if I can find the receipt for the model number...which is doubtful. The battery thing seems to be another model? Not sure. Quoting: Nine's Was just reading in the owners manual "Operating Your Spark Ignition Range During An Electrical Power Failure." Doesn't seem that "spark ignition" would use a battery? I know it doesn't have a pilot light burning all the time and uses very little gas. The burners cook food quickly at a very low heat. Whatever it is, looks like the one in the bottom pic of the link I previously posted. Sorry, I'm not good with things like that, which is why I'm so happy to have a reliable one. The company is very good answering any question you may have about a particular model. 8) Thank you. I'm going to contact Premier this afternoon and see what they've got and where. More deplorable all the time. |
Nine's
User ID: 75121144 United States 07/28/2017 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lpappliances.com] No one around me had any in stock either. The company shipped it to a store around me...don't remember if it was home depot, lowes, or menards, but they delivered and set it up. Like I said, it's not a stove you look at and say, "wow, that's an awesome stove," but after all these years, I say it plenty. |
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(OP) Culturally outdated by choice User ID: 57291893 United States 07/28/2017 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry it wasn't more helpful. This link gives some good info: Quoting: Nine's [link to www.lpappliances.com] No one around me had any in stock either. The company shipped it to a store around me...don't remember if it was home depot, lowes, or menards, but they delivered and set it up. Like I said, it's not a stove you look at and say, "wow, that's an awesome stove," but after all these years, I say it plenty. That's cool. The stoves I look at and say, "Wow, that's an awesome stove" tend to be big old cast iron models with a gajillion burners and multiple ovens - that would be too big for my living room, let alone my kitchen, lol. More deplorable all the time. |
Nine's
User ID: 75121144 United States 07/28/2017 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry it wasn't more helpful. This link gives some good info: Quoting: Nine's [link to www.lpappliances.com] No one around me had any in stock either. The company shipped it to a store around me...don't remember if it was home depot, lowes, or menards, but they delivered and set it up. Like I said, it's not a stove you look at and say, "wow, that's an awesome stove," but after all these years, I say it plenty. That's cool. The stoves I look at and say, "Wow, that's an awesome stove" tend to be big old cast iron models with a gajillion burners and multiple ovens - that would be too big for my living room, let alone my kitchen, lol. For sure! Probably more than a little uncomfortable though, operating it in the summer. LOL. |