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Hey America, It's Not Health "Care" - It's Health Fraud!

 
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07/09/2017 02:14 AM
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It's not only health fraud as far as the insurance, but the health care ITSELF is THE ABSOLUTE WORST CANCEROUS GARBAGE THEY COULD POSSIBLY PRODUCE. You cannot get well with anything from big pharma, it is impossible. Add in the 50 horrendous side effects on everything they make and you've got nothing but genocidal fraud. It's time we get big pharma out of business and let real naturopathic herbal medicine help people, the way nature intended.
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I'm just going with my motto "all leadership is by example" and hoping that people might start noticing that when they keep getting sick over and over all around me, and I'm not getting sick,knock wood, they might ask what I do that's different than what they're doing, that gets such different results. Because when I try to offer information or suggestions not only do people not know what to do with it, but they almost get offended, like I'm accusing them of something.

It's tied in with the idea of victimhood being the highest good. I mean we live in an either/or world right now, so if you're not a powerless victim, then you must be a hateful, exploitative oppressor, right?

So certainly if you catch cold 4 times a winter, it couldn't possibly be anything you have any control over, if you thought you had power over circumstances and events, you'd be some kind of juggernaut power-freak, right?

I mean the mental illness and delusions and confused thinking are running so deep right now that no one can even have a conversation about a topic or subject, everyone is so full of assumptions and jumping to conclusions, they can't just entertain an idea for a minute.
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It's eugenics!
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They can't receive treatment in their home countries, the providers would never be paid. Accepting Medicaid requires a state provided Medicaid ID number in order to be paid.


Well they do and it may be because the foreign providers maintain a US office (or at least a US address). When will Americans wake up and understand that when Big Business and lawyers get together and set up "laws" and systems and then buy, or more correctly OWN, those who oversee the process that all it takes is the right words on the right piece of paper for Grand Theft to become the new business model?

When it comes to American business, it may be against the rules to evade, but it is part of the rules to be able to avoid. I owned and operated an engineering firm for 15 years that operated out of New Jersey. When I started the business, yearly corporate taxes were based on sales volume and it was easy to avoid paying any taxes by simply taking out all of the profit as personal income at year's end and paying the 28% or whatever it was on income to avoid corporate tax. The state eventually decided to implement a minimum tax on business whether the business had a profit or not because the dimwits in Trenton aren't that bright to start with. I looked into "legal" options to avoid this and there were plenty such as incorporating in another, non-taxed state and having my NJ office as a "satellite" office and it would have cost a lot less to do that than to not.

However, doing business in NJ was already so difficult with all of the monthly, quarterly and yearly forms and reports that adding another set of issues was simply not worth the trouble, so I closed the business. My employees and subcontractors would just have to go find other suckers that did not mind the pain in the ass that the government is. This is a prime example of what is meant when you hear complaints about states being business unfriendly. Big Business can easily afford the extra efforts because they have all of the lawyers and accounts they need to work around any and every requirement. Add in a politician or two on the payoff and they can get around ANYTHING!

Last Edited by Black Knight on 07/09/2017 06:11 AM
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When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling

Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP!
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America has the best wealthcare system in the world!
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"Health" care is in actuality death care. No one is responsible for your' health. The profit is the motive.
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America has the best wealthcare system in the world!
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Yes, if you are a lawyer, insurance executive, or a politician. In reality it is now becoming more popular and far more cost effective to travel to foreign countries for services...

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Last Edited by Black Knight on 07/09/2017 08:29 AM
He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling

Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP!
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I do not believe that there are too many people out there in America that are not well aware that "medical insurance" is not really "insurance" for human health or for medical treatment as much as it is healthcare insurance companies "profit guarantees". Looking just at the moment at the Medicaid system, where MSM estimates for fraud range from $75 to $250 BILLION dollars per year...

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...it is a wonder, at least to me, why no body seems to notice, nobody seems to care...




I am not sure what is meant by "fraud" however, because what I know from my oldest and dearest friend about the subject, leads me to think that the "legal" part is really damned bad as well.

My friend is an RN who works for a huge medical insurance company and his job is to follow up with "patients" who are foreign citizens, living in foreign countries and are receiving "legal" treatments, prescriptions, and therapies that are all paid for by the US Medicaid system. These patients all started out by coming to America and filling out forms such as those that request "protection" for political asylum in the USA. Once they get off the planes they go to hospitals to seek treatment for conditions, diseases, and maladies that they happen to have. Once they are done, they return to their countries and continue to receive treatment, prescriptions, and therapies for these conditions under the Medicaid plan.

My friend's job is to follow up with each of these people every month to insure that they are reporting to their doctors for monthly "wellcare" visits, are continuing their prescriptions, and getting the therapies that were prescribed. They are even prescribed over the counter drugs such as Tylenol so that Medicaid will pay for these too.

Why is this being done and why is it legal you might ask? Because it is very, very profitable and is paid by the government so nobody cares, remember...



So I suppose that the only thing that can be said for the poor, dumb, loser American taxpayers is....Shut Up and Pay!
 Quoting: Black Knight


If what you say is true it sounds like a new global medical system being implemented at the American tax payers experience. This should enrage all working people in the once great country. This explains why all the deductibles are so high , we're taking care of a large portion of people that are not GD citizens. There slowly bleeding us out.
Prepare accordingly. redface
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!

Oh,and screw tepco & the V.A.



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If somebody has to pay $2000 a month with a $10000 deductable I consider this not to be insurance
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You got that right. And the few times we needed care, we still paid plenty and got almost nothing toward the deductible. Better to ask for the cash price and pay straight out.

I'm longing for cheap catastrophic plans like my family had several years ago, but even those are astronomical now.
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Most doctors are dangerously retarded & don't want to care to or know how to fix it.

So it's best to avoid most of them if at all possible.
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If somebody has to pay $2000 a month with a $10000 deductable I consider this not to be insurance
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You got that right. And the few times we needed care, we still paid plenty and got almost nothing toward the deductible. Better to ask for the cash price and pay straight out.

I'm longing for cheap catastrophic plans like my family had several years ago, but even those are astronomical now.
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It is encouraging to see so many who realize that we are all being victimized by the scum at the top for profit and to hell with any services that we who pay might need. Health "insurance" is really just a racket that placates the non-workers at the bottom and takes care of the sellouts at the top at the expense of those who still have enough income to be worth robbing. I would prefer to be robbed at gunpoint by a thug with a ski mask. At least that would be honest theft.
He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling

Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP!





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