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Hey all,

My effing company that USED to be great 7 years ago before we were sold, has been holding kaizens (lean six sigma shit) for all these years. This last round which was 2 weeks back (6 kaizens in one week focused on manufacturing - which is pretty much where they always focus). This one room where sr. citizens assemble the product we sell, employees who've been there over 12 years. Do an outstanding job and all..well...with this last kaizen they were told they had to take their bathroom breaks ONLY during their 15 minute breaks with are now designated to certain hours of the day. Their area has been changed up no less than 4 times in the last 2 years. None of it really does what management (upper management) thinks it will. It's always a colossal fail.

And now they've been relegated to metered out bathroom breaks. This is breaking my heart for them. If they need to leave their station they need to ask permission and get someone to step in for them. I said to one of our mangers that the time I've seen them walking to the bathrooms all these years is far less than the 2 15 minute breaks they're forcing on them. He said he brought that up during the kaizen but upper management doesn't want to hear it. Scuttle butt on the floor is that this is coming for all of us. Which is really only fair.

I did some research last night when I got home. This from the OSHA site:

Restrooms must be reasonably accessible to employees. Any restrictions an employer implements on restroom access is monitored on a case-by-case basis. No federal standard for the number of allowed restroom breaks or any specific restroom usage schedule exists.


On another link I found last night OSHA also stated that any restrictions on bathroom usage cannot lead to health concerns (UTI's anyone?).

If you have the time to read this one it's quite interesting. A gals story of her experience with this issue. Be sure and click on the "You can read an update to this story here". Sickening.
[link to www.askamanager.org]

Does anyone have any knowledge of the legalities of this implementation of bathroom usage? I'm so sick and tired of Lean and upper management I want to puke.
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You poop when we tell you to poop!

That's ridiculous Hannah..
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Wait until A.I gets a foot in, you'll be glad they keep you for a 4 hours shift.
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Fuck that in spades

You ladies sync your periods up, then when your plugs need switched out, you let those panties fill with blood till it runs down your legs

let it drip on the floors, sticky messy BIO HAZARD.

boss may rethink that commie factory oppressive bullshit
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One time, I jerked off in the bathroom after accidentally touching my co worker's. It was so plump and soft, I had to let one out. I wasn't sure if I flushed or not, but I made sure to smell fresh when I walked out. Can't go around smelling like stale dick out in the world can we?

epiclol
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out of the thread title, the most alarming part to me was 'workplace'.

you use a workplace? that's your problem right there.
~ hannah~  (OP)

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You poop when we tell you to poop!

That's ridiculous Hannah..
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


It's insane. And the people who are making these decisions have not once sat and done the job these women do, to know what it takes. It's a very tedious job. These people are the backbone of our company. IF their goal is to weed them out for younger help that they can pay less for the same job...all I gotta say is good luck finding young kids who want to sit there all day doing mundane work for a minimal wage. If that's their goal, then they've got a rude awakening - employee turnover anyone?
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you can always sue an employer later.

..and no, urine is sterile, not pissing can never lead to infections.

however missing a bowel movement opportunity can.
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Just walk. Fuck 'em.
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OUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB
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is the juice worth the squeeze?

is collecting money worth wasting your time away here?

is that money buying you what you need?

can't you figure out another way?
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you can always sue an employer later.

..and no, urine is sterile, not pissing can never lead to infections.

however missing a bowel movement opportunity can.
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Urine is not sterile........that is a myth.
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Fuck that in spades

You ladies sync your periods up, then when your plugs need switched out, you let those panties fill with blood till it runs down your legs

let it drip on the floors, sticky messy BIO HAZARD.

boss may rethink that commie factory oppressive bullshit
 Quoting: let it bleed 74238133


lol I get your point. But these are Sr. citizens we're talking about (for now, until it reaches the entire company IF THEY DARE). Have to wonder if this trickles up to upper management and those with PHDs in the company, or are they exempt because they're 'special'???

out of the thread title, the most alarming part to me was 'workplace'.

you use a workplace? that's your problem right there.
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How so? I don't get your reply.
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you can always sue an employer later.

..and no, urine is sterile, not pissing can never lead to infections.

however missing a bowel movement opportunity can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


Urine is not sterile........that is a myth.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


absolute bullshit. urine is sterile. 100% it will never ferment when bottled.
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Fuck that in spades

You ladies sync your periods up, then when your plugs need switched out, you let those panties fill with blood till it runs down your legs

let it drip on the floors, sticky messy BIO HAZARD.

boss may rethink that commie factory oppressive bullshit
 Quoting: let it bleed 74238133


lol I get your point. But these are Sr. citizens we're talking about (for now, until it reaches the entire company IF THEY DARE). Have to wonder if this trickles up to upper management and those with PHDs in the company, or are they exempt because they're 'special'???

out of the thread title, the most alarming part to me was 'workplace'.

you use a workplace? that's your problem right there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


How so? I don't get your reply.
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


it's 2017 and you still go to a workplace to get tokens to buy food and stuff. that system is broken. you need to be self sufficient now.
~ hannah~  (OP)

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OUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB
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I'm planning on retiring in two years. So, I'm good. Also, if this edict reaches to ALL of us, I will not adhere to it, and my boss won't make me. FUCK THAT.
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OUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72798554


I'm planning on retiring in two years. So, I'm good. Also, if this edict reaches to ALL of us, I will not adhere to it, and my boss won't make me. FUCK THAT.
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


bump
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Fuck that in spades

You ladies sync your periods up, then when your plugs need switched out, you let those panties fill with blood till it runs down your legs

let it drip on the floors, sticky messy BIO HAZARD.

boss may rethink that commie factory oppressive bullshit
 Quoting: let it bleed 74238133


lol I get your point. But these are Sr. citizens we're talking about (for now, until it reaches the entire company IF THEY DARE). Have to wonder if this trickles up to upper management and those with PHDs in the company, or are they exempt because they're 'special'???

out of the thread title, the most alarming part to me was 'workplace'.

you use a workplace? that's your problem right there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


How so? I don't get your reply.
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


it's 2017 and you still go to a workplace to get tokens to buy food and stuff. that system is broken. you need to be self sufficient now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


You get your tokens from someone else. What's the difference? We can't have a society made up all self employees. Well I mean we can't have a society with the creations we have now.
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OUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB QUIT YOUR JOB
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72798554


I'm planning on retiring in two years. So, I'm good. Also, if this edict reaches to ALL of us, I will not adhere to it, and my boss won't make me. FUCK THAT.
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


Glad you're almost done working at this totalitarian bathroom management company. Hang in there.


hf
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go in early one morning and sneak into the bosses office, put a potty on the floor next to their chair and some toilet roll on the desk.

i'm sure they will get the message.

far more effective.
~ hannah~  (OP)

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out of the thread title, the most alarming part to me was 'workplace'.

you use a workplace? that's your problem right there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


How so? I don't get your reply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


it's 2017 and you still go to a workplace to get tokens to buy food and stuff. that system is broken. you need to be self sufficient now.


Well, I'm a product of my generation. Work hard and bought that home with the white picket fence. I hear what you're saying. Trying in my own way to get off the hamster wheel.
peace

Last Edited by ~ hannah~ on 06/24/2017 08:06 PM
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Fuck that in spades

You ladies sync your periods up, then when your plugs need switched out, you let those panties fill with blood till it runs down your legs

let it drip on the floors, sticky messy BIO HAZARD.

boss may rethink that commie factory oppressive bullshit
 Quoting: let it bleed 74238133


lol I get your point. But these are Sr. citizens we're talking about (for now, until it reaches the entire company IF THEY DARE). Have to wonder if this trickles up to upper management and those with PHDs in the company, or are they exempt because they're 'special'???

out of the thread title, the most alarming part to me was 'workplace'.

you use a workplace? that's your problem right there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


How so? I don't get your reply.
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


it's 2017 and you still go to a workplace to get tokens to buy food and stuff. that system is broken. you need to be self sufficient now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


You get your tokens from someone else. What's the difference? We can't have a society made up all self employees. Well I mean we can't have a society with the creations we have now.
 Quoting: glp-smilies


if you can't afford to buy what you can make, there is something seriously wrong.
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ONE QUESTION ?

What the fuck is a "kaizens" ????

wtfdid
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ONE QUESTION ?

What the fuck is a "kaizens" ????

wtfdid
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i have no idea, but the story still worked without knowing.
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ONE QUESTION ?

What the fuck is a "kaizens" ????

wtfdid
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LMAO!!!!!

Kaizens are the DEVIL. A devil that it seems corporate America has embraced. If you work in a manufacturing environment, then Lean Manufacturing will have infiltrated. Even fucking TRADER JOE'S is doing it!

A Kaizen is an "event", usually a week long where you gather a "team" (I have come to hate the word team) of about 15 people. Consisting of "Outside eyes" (someone who knows shit about what you do), affected depts/parties, and "Subject specialists" (so if it affects your dept, and you know all, you'll be called in). You get catered lunches all week of all sorts of food you really don't want to eat, you can't get THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED FOR DONE all week because you're focusing on this other area of the business. On certain kaizens called "Presidents Kaizen" (meaning the CEO has some sort of vested interest in it) you are expected to stay over your usual 8 hours until the 'work is done'. In the end, it's like the 'team effort' is more important than the actual outcome of decisions made by those who don't have a flapping idea what really goes on in the area they're so desperately trying to improve.

It would all be so funny (and it is), if it were't so sad.
~ hannah~  (OP)

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ONE QUESTION ?

What the fuck is a "kaizens" ????

wtfdid
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i have no idea, but the story still worked without knowing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75137217


Ha!

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I dunno if restroom. Deals have to be same as 15 minute breaks and you have to walk far, I'm gonna need 20 minutes then

And if I have to go, I have to go

I don't give a carp if I get penalized or written up
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cost accounting

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When duty calls, you ought to go. When nature calls, you gotta go!!
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I dunno if restroom. Deals have to be same as 15 minute breaks and you have to walk far, I'm gonna need 20 minutes then

And if I have to go, I have to go

I don't give a carp if I get penalized or written up
 Quoting: Sneaking snecret snanguages 74354715


In one of the articles I found last night some company resorted to making employees use a swipe card if they were using the facilities not during official break time. Imagine that!

cost accounting

crazy


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Interesting analogy!

When duty calls, you ought to go. When nature calls, you gotta go!!
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Yup. Pregnant women, people with diabetes, UTIs, diverticulitis (that word always cracks me up because I think of the old SNL skit)...
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Im taking a piss right now





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