I dont think anyone deserves eternal hellfire...

Youre scared of going there. Arnt you?

Not even Osama Bin Laden or Kathy Griffin?

I am trying to get rid of this illogical fear. It is deeply programmed into my mind. Thanks to years into christianity. I constantly feel guilty and shit.

Everyone passes through it, it's eternally there, but once you are purified, you move on. People are the ones that like to fantasize about someone in torment for eternity, not the Great Creator.

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It's not.

You go against God, you fight Eternity. That simple.

There is no hell.

That is why I am strongly for punishing people in the here and now.

You are worthy of eternal love. Accept that and get in touch with your eternal soul.

youre not god, you don't set the rules or the punishments...and we also don't elect the saints...

read the Bible yourself Jesus referred hell more than any subject ... when we make statements like you did we place ourselves as god. We have plenty of warning and all you have to do is this

Matthew 22:36-40 (NKJV)

36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”

37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”


If you do this the rest will be easier this life is not about us but about God and the end of the battle , why on earth would god or anyone want to be in same room as Hitler

finally someone with a heart

What if they want it?

It's not eternal from my understanding; I think the Bible even states that you can either live for eternity in Heaven with God; or you can be cast into the lake of fire and experience the "second death". So your spirit gets killed; after your body dies; unless you've lived a Godly life.

But everyone has their own interpretation of the Book; which makes it so enigmatic and powerful.

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What is labeled love is not love. Love by definition is unconditional. The fault of Christianity and that belief system is that eternal love you talk about is based on conditions. Based on conditions is not love. Believe in your God or else is not love no matter how you slice it.

I don't think it's really our place to say what someone deserves. Only God knows.

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Its just a story. All there is is the present moment. What is happening now. All else is interpretation and imagination. All thoughts that come and go. Life is thoughtless.

WE all DESERVE IT

Life is a thoughtform. We're all from one mind.

You are not the only one that thinks that way - but we are not judges and we are not made to be one or many.

The terrible thing is - we are made to suffer in life and what not.

Just a truth.

But:
Judgement needs to happen - but why not a simple: Be uncreated?!

Lake of fire = personal hatred (and because the Lord never wants to die - it will never have an end. Never. That makes the punishment - ugly and perverse.).

I wish I was never born - he knew it - I am not guilty of anything BUT a given existence from him.

We all deserve it. Christ is the only way to escape it.

"I will prepare rivers of fire and cast his soul into them and oil it so that the period it spends in the world sinning it will spend it in the fire until it is pure'> I said to my Father, I will save him' I will answer for him' I will make him return to know you' If I know that he has been disobedient and perished# I will go down if you wish and shed my blood for him until I rescue him and his children'>Then my Father heard this eulogy from my mouth he took hold of him and blessed him'"

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Watch the whole thing or skip to about 2 minutes left in the video.

Goofy why don't you research the history of the bible(s) yourself and learn where all these terms in various languages originated from - then maybe you'll stop spreading fear-based misinformation and misunderstanding to others? You're doing a disservice to others and I get that you don't realize this (yet)...
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Please explain in your own words how you are deserving of neverending punishment/torment?

Smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. Its the smoke only. The angelic being whos torment the smoke came from is just made to not exist anymore. Poof.. gone like they never existed.

God is going to wipe away all tears once those that choose not to follow reality are purged from existence. No one would be happy if they knew one of their friends, acquaintances, or family members were roasting in fire for eternity.

Smoke (something to look at) and what gives smoke?

FIRE!

REAL FIRE...

Oh I forgot:

Brimstones will be thrown in there too...

There is nothing illogical about it.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

If you believe in human beings burning in hell for all eternity You should at least know that isn't a Christian view. A modern rewritten radicalization of Christianity perhaps. Many of the words "hell" in the Bible were "hades" which meant "in the ground" and not "fire and brimestone" which was solely meant for Satan and his angels. Over time the frequency of hell in the Bible increased as it became a selling point and persuasion angle for the church to raise money through "get out of hell" cards issued by the Roman Catholic occult satanists who sought to perverse religion, pose as a Christian ethos while secretly symbolically showing Jesus on the cross rather than an empty cross (the former promotes the image of satan's conquest over God, the latter promotes the resurrection and empty cross signifying His victory over death...
Additionally "Jesus" is from the Greek mistranslation IESUS which is possibly linked to Dionysus and Egyptian Goddess Isis. Yeshua probably translates more to "Joshua" and that is only the name the people imposed upon him. The name of the prophecy of the savior was Emmanuel. Beyond that, it was more likely Emmanuel and the Ancient Holy Romans imposed that upon them.

Christianity to begin with was likely a perversion of the teachings of Emmanuel as the Holy Roman Empire who didn't have separation of church and state sought to impose paganism. When the economy crashed people sought a new religion and attempts to torture and murder early christians didn't work... so they paganized Christianity by determining what to omit and what to use while also withholding the Bible from the people... and eventually holding the resurrection celebration on the pagan holiday IshTar (Easter) and the birth of Christ on another pagan holiday of Saturnalia as well.

If you are a true follower of Christ you should believe in his message of love. Hebrew and Aramaic have multiple words for "love" and the kind used in the Bible was that of charity as well as "eternal everlasting love" for "God is love". More clearly defined by Paul in the famous verse used commonly in weddings . The parables of sowing and reaping are all about the idea that the message of Christ will be perverted and destroyed and the seed shall not always bear fruit but if you are charitable and spread knowledge out of love the important message will spread.
Shouldn't matter if reality changes or if the Bible has been altered because those who altered the Bible didn't know of the message or they wouldn't have sought to control and influence society for their own sake.
The concept of eternity and infinity is that where we are all one and to impose against another is a crime against the self. "Forgive them they know not what they do"

When Jesus talked about hell, he said it was the second death, and that the second death had no power over the righteous. That doesn't sound eternal, but more like a quick, merciful end.

That sounds more like God to me. I don't see how anyone could be punished eternally for a few short years on earth being exploited and lied to by TPTB.

If anything we should be Given an award for manageing to be good people in the face of the storm of evil we are subjected too all our lives, but what do I know?

God's ways are not man's ways and he'll do as he pleases, though. Never forget that. If He wants Hell to be eternal, it will be eternal. He also said Hell wasn't created for humans, but for fallen angels, and that humans can go there too.

That sounds like a really horrible place to go. I hope I am found worthy to escape it.