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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4187563 Not sure if the charge will stay or how much will be dissipated as heat or radiated energy, but yes, if one is true the converse should also be true. That doesn't necessarily follow goy. You're not much of a Philosopher If A exerts force on B. Then B also exerts force on A. Moving a magnet across a fixed charge will twist the magnetic field. The twist goes the other direction when the charge is flipped. This might be used to measure a non conductive bodies charge state by how far it twists the mag field. |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If A exerts force on B. Then B also exerts force on A. Quoting: AdamIf my leg (A) kicks (force) a football (b), then it is not the case that the football exerts a force on my leg Sure it does. Don't you know Newtons Third Law? Last Edited by -Adam- on 03/30/2017 10:50 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As well, if two pieces of metal were moved closer to each other over time, they are experiencing magnetic compression so the metals gain similar magnetic charges where the two are closest to each other. This is because equal magnetic poles repel. Repulsion creates pressure and two pieces of iron moving towards each other simulates magnetic pressure. This is another fact. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71641081 United States 03/30/2017 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If A exerts force on B. Then B also exerts force on A. Quoting: AdamIf my leg (A) kicks (force) a football (b), then it is not the case that the football exerts a force on my leg Sure it does. Don't you know Newtons Third Law? Many ACL injuries take place when a soccer player kicks the ball. |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then it must be deflected to one side of the charged particle or charged plate... or be torqued upon. Though it just may. We may have perceived twisting in a physical sense. IE, turning a magnet on it's axis does not twist the magnetic field. Electrons do have a torqueing impact on the magnetic field. Look at conducting wires with the rotating magnetic field around the wire. I am going to think up a test to prove or disprove this. Last Edited by -Adam- on 03/30/2017 12:53 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If my leg (A) kicks (force) a football (b), then it is not the case that the football exerts a force on my leg Quoting: The Grand Inquisitor If you kick the ball hard enough you'll break your foot. That is force in the opposing direction. If the ball was heavy enough, it won't move but your foot would shatter. In this case, the resistance to go from stand still to motion, the energy required to accelerate the ball is shared between the ball and your foot. That is why heavier balls hurt the foot more. |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An electron is deflected in a vacuum with a linear, coherent magnetic field. It curves though that curve is a result of two vectors over time. I shouldn't have to explain this. It is well known. It is how TV's directed the electrons to make the image. Besides, Newtons 3rd Law states the magnetic field is acted upon equally as strong as it is on the charged particle. So it would stand to reason, moving a magnetic field across a stream of charged particles would deflect the magnetic field. We may not notice it as the mass of the electron is very small. So the equivalent reaction in the magnetic field be small. however, firing one charged particle into a magnetic field will influence the field and thus, influence another charged particle moving through the field at the same time. As well, if gravity bends light...then light gives up energy into gravity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40483822 Canada 03/30/2017 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have a stationary wire between a stationary magnetic feild all strapped to a board, so that lorrentz force pushes the wire upwards, you will have a flying machine if you give it enough current. Put the board on a scale to show the decrease in weight when you put a current through the wire. Make a YouTube video and post it on this thread. |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have a stationary wire between a stationary magnetic feild all strapped to a board, so that lorrentz force pushes the wire upwards, you will have a flying machine if you give it enough current. Put the board on a scale to show the decrease in weight when you put a current through the wire. Make a YouTube video and post it on this thread. Biefeld-Brown, look it up. Asymmetric capacitance. Causes lift, even if the electric polarity is flipped, inertial force is same direction. It is based on the dielectric field shape. Which is the same if polarity is flipped. Also, two positive charges will NOT repel on each other until a negative charge is introduced. Hence, it is not the particle that acts upon the other. It is the particles field that interacts with others. With out a negative charge present, no flux lines are made to repel each other. I know enough to hold my own with the best minds in science. Last Edited by -Adam- on 03/30/2017 01:16 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74580466 United Kingdom 03/30/2017 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An electron is deflected in a vacuum with a linear, coherent magnetic field. It curves though that curve is a result of two vectors over time. I shouldn't have to explain this. It is well known. It is how TV's directed the electrons to make the image. Besides, Newtons 3rd Law states the magnetic field is acted upon equally as strong as it is on the charged particle. So it would stand to reason, moving a magnetic field across a stream of charged particles would deflect the magnetic field. We may not notice it as the mass of the electron is very small. So the equivalent reaction in the magnetic field be small. however, firing one charged particle into a magnetic field will influence the field and thus, influence another charged particle moving through the field at the same time. As well, if gravity bends light...then light gives up energy into gravity. yes and also moving stream of charged particles will move the magnetic field. |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An electron is deflected in a vacuum with a linear, coherent magnetic field. It curves though that curve is a result of two vectors over time. I shouldn't have to explain this. It is well known. It is how TV's directed the electrons to make the image. Besides, Newtons 3rd Law states the magnetic field is acted upon equally as strong as it is on the charged particle. So it would stand to reason, moving a magnetic field across a stream of charged particles would deflect the magnetic field. We may not notice it as the mass of the electron is very small. So the equivalent reaction in the magnetic field be small. however, firing one charged particle into a magnetic field will influence the field and thus, influence another charged particle moving through the field at the same time. As well, if gravity bends light...then light gives up energy into gravity. yes and also moving stream of charged particles will move the magnetic field. I wonder, conduct electrons from the outer perimeter to the inner perimeter of a coherent field. The lead the current out along the pole axis where it doesn't influence the mag field as much. As long as there is current, the mag field is deflected or torqued. Imagine discharging 500kv from a massive layden jar or capacitor bank. |
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(OP) User ID: 73621555 United States 03/30/2017 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can you see the side view of just inside the toroid field when he first places the magnet under the ferrocell? I'm gonna watch it and then get back to you. I'm down for anything that deals with the latest edge in science. btw, I like that fella in the vid. I watch a lot of his work. Really smart. I wondered if he ever saw my understanding of Leedskalnins Symbol. Which I am certain I figured out. anyways, will post up on my thoughts of the vid. Last Edited by -Adam- on 03/30/2017 01:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74580466 United Kingdom 03/30/2017 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can you see the side view of just inside the toroid field when he first places the magnet under the ferrocell? I'm gonna watch it and then get back to you. I'm down for anything that deals with the latest edge in science. excellent. to give you perspective, something that the video maker maybe doesn't realise is that due to the distance this magnet is from the ferrocell the cell is inside the toroid field and seeing the middle from the indide of it. |
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