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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1664741 United Kingdom 03/28/2017 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it! [/quote Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it. Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy In itself. [/quo Ha ha cox gotchya [/quot This proves Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!! [/quot And it proves reality is reality Apart from observation [/quot Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called [/quot |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72572868 United Kingdom 03/28/2017 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it! [/quote Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it. Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy In itself. [/quo Ha ha cox gotchya [/quot This proves Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!! [/quot And it proves reality is reality Apart from observation [/quot Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called [/quot [/quo So much for the most idiotic premise of qau tum physics Which is nothing exists unless observed |
Zantrick
(OP) User ID: 74568146 United States 03/28/2017 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74566097 What do you mean by everywhere, whilst experiencing yourself to be everywhere are you in your tea cup on the table in front of you? Not trying to be dismissive but just trying to understand. Yes because my thought and sight of that teacup intertwines itself into my reality. Thus the matter can be controlled by the observer. I can pick it up..I can break it .. I can change its form and make it something else if I choose. Mind over matter always. Everything and nothing at the same time. Yes, but like in a dream the observer and the cup is there and you can use special powers to do strange things with the cup. But the dream has a source beyond even the dreamer. Anyway I’m not pretending I know anything so I won’t trouble you again. It's no trouble. I like your thoughts and questions. It's important to always be thirsty for truth! What she said! Added flavor:: Opinions are like assholes everybody has them. I just don't like assholes. Only assholes wanna be assholes. Your def not an asshole a/c, even a blind man could tell you that! <3 Bushido |
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(OP) User ID: 74568146 United States 03/28/2017 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the author of the post can't spell DOES, do you waste any time reading the drivel therein? Quoting: AnathemaTNO Burning question. It must be answered. Ok asshole... I'm using text-to-speech because I'm driving I'm sorry I don't have time to stop on the side of the road and correct my words for you to understand. Bushido |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72572868 United Kingdom 03/28/2017 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it! [/quote Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it. Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy In itself. [/quo Ha ha cox gotchya [/quot This proves Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!! [/quot And it proves reality is reality Apart from observation [/quot Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called [/quot [/quo So much for the most idiotic premise of qaunum physics Which is nothing exists unless observed is proven to be a rediculous lie [/ COX !! |
Zantrick
(OP) User ID: 74568146 United States 03/28/2017 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine for a minute if you will; you we're able to disconnect all of your senses absolutely no sight absolutely no sound absolutely no taste absolutely no smell and absolutely no feeling. Quoting: Zantrick Where are you? Are you still you? Do you still exist? Let's say some comes and shoots you in the head while you are laying there wherever. You don't hear the shot fired you don't feel the bullet penetrating your skin you don't smell the sulfur from the round you don't see into the persons eyes that's pulling the trigger. Do you still die? How would you know? Ask a deaf person But they can still see. Bushido |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74473196 Ireland 03/28/2017 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I understand your reasoning but according to the double slit experiment and what Angel just said everything is everywhere and can also be nothing and nowhere. Quoting: Zantrick When there is no observer the electrons stay in wave form; endless possibilities. It isn't untill the process is measured that the wave function collapses into "reality" So like I said if you had no connection to this world ViA your senses and you were in said woods and the said tree falls on top of your head what happens. I think quantum physics and the slit test prove there must be an observer for this planned net. If there is no observer than nothing exists. But there will always be an observer and that observer is more you than you realize ;-) Winner!!! Science has proven this answer already. An observer must be present. Yet, does a beaver count as an observer? Or an ant? Virus? Correct, no observation means nothing gets rendered, but more specifically it is history not observation that is important. If the observer of the tree/forest were to die and there were no history, no recordings, no photographs or other records of the tree/forest and nobody else had ever seen this tree/forest then in that place anything could exist depending on the next observer to arrive there....the new observer may not even see a tree/forest depending on their rule sets. |
AnathemaTNO
User ID: 9948368 United States 03/28/2017 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the author of the post can't spell DOES, do you waste any time reading the drivel therein? Quoting: AnathemaTNO Burning question. It must be answered. Ok asshole... I'm using text-to-speech because I'm driving I'm sorry I don't have time to stop on the side of the road and correct my words for you to understand. Uh huh. Nice name-calling though. You're clearly well balanced. ~Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity~ |
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Zantrick
(OP) User ID: 74568146 United States 03/28/2017 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes you're right so just like the pan story I demonstrated a minute ago we are only going by what we've been taught and what we know. The question is what happens when all of your connections to this reality are disconnected. If it's real then it will persist but if you have no way to measure the realness how can persist? Last Edited by Tetsukumaru on 03/28/2017 01:55 PM Bushido |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62941459 United States 03/28/2017 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes you're right so just like the pan story I demonstrated a minute ago we are only going by what we've been taught and what we know. Quoting: Zantrick The question is what happens when all of your connections to this reality are disconnected. If it's real then it will persist but if you have no way to measure the realness how can persist? I see unlimited possibles for the dreamers and hell for the the ones who have worshiped material |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5958224 United States 03/28/2017 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will end as i start...Observation not needed. vibration is sound. When I talk to you your ears turn vibration into words so we can communicate with each other. (For the sake of simplicity I will not go into telepathy). I am not there communicating with the tree, so when it fell and thunderously crashed to the ground, sound vibrations were scattered in all directions. Because I was there to communicate and pick up the sound waves this of course doesn't mean noise wasn't made. It just means 'I' personally didn't hear it. Then there are separate dicussions on the table..how far does sound travel...? May I did, but due to distance I picked it up extra low frequency soft enough as to not to disturb me. Were there animals present, that dashed off apon hearing the tree fall...then they heard it...either or, no matter how thin you slice it or what school of thought makes you feel safe...if it made vibration, noise as we know it was made. For this is noise as we know it....observation not needed |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72572411 United Kingdom 03/28/2017 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it! [/quote Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it. Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy In itself. [/quo Ha ha cox gotchya [/quot This proves Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!! [/quot And it proves reality is reality Apart from observation [/quot Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called [/quot [/quo So much for the most idiotic premise of qaunum physics Which is nothing exists unless observed is proven to be a rediculous lie [/ COX !! [/quot The eventual fruits of science so called Have shown themselves and they are EVIL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74473196 Ireland 03/28/2017 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple answer...there is NO tree, there is NO woods...it's all just virtual..rendered. “Only effects are rendered.” Seems most reasonable. Fibonacci sequence. Yes, now we're getting somewhere. The veil is almost down. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5958224 United States 03/28/2017 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell that to companies who send me unexpected solicitation every day in the mail from somewhere that is obviously not real in 'your world/opinion' because Im not aware of them so therefor they don't exist. But some how get there mail to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62941459 United States 03/28/2017 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74473196 Simple answer...there is NO tree, there is NO woods...it's all just virtual..rendered. “Only effects are rendered.” Seems most reasonable. Fibonacci sequence. Yes, now we're getting somewhere. The veil is almost down. Yes it is! We are so close |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72580048 United Kingdom 03/28/2017 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | truth is truth apart from observation Reality is reality apart from observation Scirnce so called is unscientific And quantum physics is bullshit If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it! [/quotek Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it. Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy In itself. [/quo Ha ha cox gotchya [/quot This proves Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!! [/quot And it proves reality is reality Apart from observation!, [/quot Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called [/quot [/quo So much for the most idiotic premise of qaunum physics Which is nothing exists unless observed is proven to be a rediculous lie [/ COX !! [/quot The eventual fruits of science so called Have shown themselves and they are EVIL [/q |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5958224 United States 03/28/2017 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to be present. what rubbish! Then you typed it on a computer...you disnt physically say it. Therefor whether I was present or not to hear your opinion, I wouldn't of heard anything. So you don't exist so neither does your opinion. And neither does mine..nothing to see here (or hear) |
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