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If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?

 
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If someone farts in the woods and is alone, does anyone else hear it?
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Who ever came up with that statement was most likely mentally retarded.

If it's raining at night while you're asleep, did it really rain because you didn't see it?

Retards.

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If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it!
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Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it.

Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy
In itself.
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Ha ha cox gotchya
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This proves
Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!!
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And it proves reality is reality
Apart from observation
[/quot

Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called
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If the author of the post can't spell DOES, do you waste any time reading the drivel therein?

Burning question. It must be answered.
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If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it!
[/quote
Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it.

Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy
In itself.
[/quo

Ha ha cox gotchya
[/quot
This proves
Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!!
[/quot

And it proves reality is reality
Apart from observation
[/quot

Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called
[/quot
[/quo
So much for the most idiotic premise of qau tum physics
Which is nothing exists unless observed
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What do you mean by everywhere, whilst experiencing yourself to be everywhere are you in your tea cup on the table in front of you? Not trying to be dismissive but just trying to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74566097


Yes because my thought and sight of that teacup intertwines itself into my reality. Thus the matter can be controlled by the observer. I can pick it up..I can break it .. I can change its form and make it something else if I choose. Mind over matter always. Everything and nothing at the same time.
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Yes, but like in a dream the observer and the cup is there and you can use special powers to do strange things with the cup. But the dream has a source beyond even the dreamer.

Anyway I’m not pretending I know anything so I won’t trouble you again.
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It's no trouble. I like your thoughts and questions. It's important to always be thirsty for truth!
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What she said!

Added flavor::

Opinions are like assholes everybody has them.

I just don't like assholes.

Only assholes wanna be assholes.

Your def not an asshole a/c, even a blind man could tell you that!

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If the author of the post can't spell DOES, do you waste any time reading the drivel therein?

Burning question. It must be answered.
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Ok asshole...

I'm using text-to-speech because I'm driving I'm sorry I don't have time to stop on the side of the road and correct my words for you to understand.
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If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it!
[/quote
Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it.

Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy
In itself.
[/quo

Ha ha cox gotchya
[/quot
This proves
Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!!
[/quot

And it proves reality is reality
Apart from observation
[/quot

Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called
[/quot
[/quo
So much for the most idiotic premise of qaunum physics
Which is nothing exists unless observed is proven to be a rediculous lie

[/
lmao COX !!
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Imagine for a minute if you will; you we're able to disconnect all of your senses absolutely no sight absolutely no sound absolutely no taste absolutely no smell and absolutely no feeling.

Where are you?
Are you still you?
Do you still exist?

Let's say some comes and shoots you in the head while you are laying there wherever.

You don't hear the shot fired you don't feel the bullet penetrating your skin you don't smell the sulfur from the round you don't see into the persons eyes that's pulling the trigger.

Do you still die?

How would you know?
 Quoting: Zantrick


Ask a deaf person
5a5a5a5a
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But they can still see.
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Yes I understand your reasoning but according to the double slit experiment and what Angel just said everything is everywhere and can also be nothing and nowhere.

When there is no observer the electrons stay in wave form; endless possibilities. It isn't untill the process is measured that the wave function collapses into "reality"

So like I said if you had no connection to this world ViA your senses and you were in said woods and the said tree falls on top of your head what happens.
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I think quantum physics and the slit test prove there must be an observer for this planned net. If there is no observer than nothing exists. But there will always be an observer and that observer is more you than you realize ;-)
 Quoting: Angel Sempiternal


Winner!!! Science has proven this answer already. An observer must be present. Yet, does a beaver count as an observer? Or an ant? Virus?
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Correct, no observation means nothing gets rendered, but more specifically it is history not observation that is important.

If the observer of the tree/forest were to die and there were no history, no recordings, no photographs or other records of the tree/forest and nobody else had ever seen this tree/forest then in that place anything could exist depending on the next observer to arrive there....the new observer may not even see a tree/forest depending on their rule sets.
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If the author of the post can't spell DOES, do you waste any time reading the drivel therein?

Burning question. It must be answered.
 Quoting: AnathemaTNO


Ok asshole...

I'm using text-to-speech because I'm driving I'm sorry I don't have time to stop on the side of the road and correct my words for you to understand.
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Uh huh.

Nice name-calling though. You're clearly well balanced.
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Esoteric fluff twaddle. Next time a tree falls in the woods please take your baked bean and stand in front of it. I guarantee you'll hear it.
Aieyes
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Yes you're right so just like the pan story I demonstrated a minute ago we are only going by what we've been taught and what we know.

The question is what happens when all of your connections to this reality are disconnected.

If it's real then it will persist but if you have no way to measure the realness how can persist?

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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Yes you're right so just like the pan story I demonstrated a minute ago we are only going by what we've been taught and what we know.

The question is what happens when all of your connections to this reality are disconnected.

If it's real then it will persist but if you have no way to measure the realness how can persist?
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I see unlimited possibles for the dreamers and hell for the the ones who have worshiped material
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?

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Simple answer...there is NO tree, there is NO woods...it's all just virtual..rendered.
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“Only effects are rendered.” Seems most reasonable.
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I will end as i start...Observation not needed. vibration is sound. When I talk to you your ears turn vibration into words so we can communicate with each other. (For the sake of simplicity I will not go into telepathy). I am not there communicating with the tree, so when it fell and thunderously crashed to the ground, sound vibrations were scattered in all directions. Because I was there to communicate and pick up the sound waves this of course doesn't mean noise wasn't made. It just means 'I' personally didn't hear it. Then there are separate dicussions on the table..how far does sound travel...? May I did, but due to distance I picked it up extra low frequency soft enough as to not to disturb me. Were there animals present, that dashed off apon hearing the tree fall...then they heard it...either or, no matter how thin you slice it or what school of thought makes you feel safe...if it made vibration, noise as we know it was made. For this is noise as we know it....observation not needed
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Simple answer...there is NO tree, there is NO woods...it's all just virtual..rendered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74473196


“Only effects are rendered.” Seems most reasonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74566097


Fibonacci sequence. Yes, now we're getting somewhere.
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If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it!
[/quote
Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it.

Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy
In itself.
[/quo

Ha ha cox gotchya
[/quot
This proves
Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!!
[/quot

And it proves reality is reality
Apart from observation
[/quot

Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called
[/quot
[/quo
So much for the most idiotic premise of qaunum physics
Which is nothing exists unless observed is proven to be a rediculous lie

[/
lmao COX !!
[/quot

The eventual fruits of science so called
Have shown themselves and they are EVIL
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74473196


Simple answer...there is NO tree, there is NO woods...it's all just virtual..rendered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74473196


“Only effects are rendered.” Seems most reasonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74566097


Fibonacci sequence. Yes, now we're getting somewhere.
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The veil is almost down.
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Science is unscientific
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Tell that to companies who send me unexpected solicitation every day in the mail from somewhere that is obviously not real in 'your world/opinion' because Im not aware of them so therefor they don't exist. But some how get there mail to me.
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Simple answer...there is NO tree, there is NO woods...it's all just virtual..rendered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74473196


“Only effects are rendered.” Seems most reasonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74566097


Fibonacci sequence. Yes, now we're getting somewhere.
 Quoting: Zantrick


The veil is almost down.
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Yes it is! We are so close
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This video sounds more like collusion with Hollywood and media/food and Chem trailing to help us meld into Elon musks version of mankind's future...the man is talking bollocks!
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truth is truth apart from observation
Reality is reality apart from observation
Scirnce so called is unscientific
And quantum physics is bullshit



If noise is vibration...and a falling tree made vibration. Whether you were there or not it made noise. You just weren't there to hear it!
[/quotek



Yes, it still creates sound waves regardless if someone's ears are around to receive it.

Yes a d this rpoves the scientifc method to be a fallacy
In itself.
[/quo

Ha ha cox gotchya
[/quot
This proves
Truth is truth apart from observation!!!!!
[/quot

And it proves reality is reality
Apart from observation!,

[/quot

Lol so much for so called gnosis science so called
[/quot
[/quo
So much for the most idiotic premise of qaunum physics
Which is nothing exists unless observed is proven to be a rediculous lie

[/
lmao COX !!
[/quot

The eventual fruits of science so called
Have shown themselves and they are EVIL

[/q
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jesus is the truth and truth is a reality
He holds all things together by his powerful word
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
No, if wouldn't. It would produce sound waves, but without an instrument like a brain to interpret and convert the waves to sound they would remain just sound waves.
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
Did you say 'sound waves' in the same sentence as 'it not producing sound'. You may want to think your argument. ;)
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
You have to be present. lmao what rubbish! Then you typed it on a computer...you disnt physically say it. Therefor whether I was present or not to hear your opinion, I wouldn't of heard anything. So you don't exist so neither does your opinion. And neither does mine..nothing to see here (or hear)
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Re: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, dose it make a sound?
It really is a strange Paradox.
Just trying to wrap my mind around it with the added effect of the loss of all sensory information.

Thanks for everyone's input.
^^
Bushido





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