Jesus the solar deity. Sun God, sun in Pisces.Religion Comes From Ancient Astrology and Sun Worship

You mean Gilgamesh in Sumer

Noah is not a sumerian name

I have met other people on earth that have beliefs that are similar to ours. Rare, but exists!

Well first i will tell you that i don't like Christianity...

BUT if i were going to argue the Christian side of this, i would talk about Paul, scholars believe he is authentic, most of his writings came from him personally and he was alive at the time, if you go by his own dates, you can work out that Paul must have known about a historical Jesus in roughly 32 AD.

There is no reason to doubt Paul.

Then i would talk about independent sources outside of the bible who also confirm that Jesus really did exist...

Those would be Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, the Talmud and Lucian.


If i were going to speak against Christianity...

there would be a lot i could say, but i would probably start with the fact that none of the NT authors ever met Jesus while he was alive, Paul is the only NT author we can actually put a name to, and he didn't meet Jesus either while he was alive, the closest he ever got was meeting James (brother of Jesus) and he had a vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus (after Jesus was crucified), every other author in the NT is anonymous and the consensus among critical scholars is that none of them ever met Jesus.

i could go on forever about the NT and OT but i would never try to say that Jesus never existed or that he was a sun deity...

I would pick my battles more carefully, there is no evidence to support the sun deity theory and a lot of evidence proving Jesus existed.

other interesting thing bout Jesus, he was a symbolist, a metaphorist... he spoke to the crowd in parable...

he wanted us to figure things out on our own, to decipher the parable, that's how you truly gain knowledge, when you figure something out on your own.. the parable leads you to the truth, you have to decipher it

too funny
scriptures go back to day one
witness accounts and oral tradition passed down from Adam.
can't get any older than that.

read the solomon apocryphals
explains roots of astrology in great detail

its all demons

now the number 12 and all the scriptural associations to it are all God

just dont get it twisted

jesus's existence really isn't an issue

lots of historical figures have existed in fictitious books / stories, again, shakespeare wrote many historical figures into his fictitious plays and many modern movie involved people who actually existed, but that doesn't mean the movies are historical documents

all that matters is the teaching

whether or not christ or buddha or krishna or quetzacoatl or zeus actually existed is not the point, the point is what those stories are teaching



the point is the teaching

Day 1.... so on what day were the dinosaurs then?

and when did the Sumerians come into existence?

And if it happened on day 1 how come there's all these other religions that existed before christianity came into existence?

astrology is all demons now is it!!!

of course it is, it's always demons

you can read about dinosaurs in the book of Job
and the prehistoric sea creatures, too

man walked with the dinosaurs

explain how astrology is all demons? except of course for the number 12



and doesn't genesis tell us god put the stars in the heavens as signs for seasons and for days and years? Meaning use the stars for astrological as signs for the seasons and for the days and years? Seems like god was telling us to be astrologers and astronomers. Doesn't sound like demons to me

King James Bible
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Genesis 1:14

20) 8472nd vs. 2 Samuel 17:22 Then David arose, and all the people that were with him, and they passed over Jordan: by The Morning Light there lacked not one of them that was not gone over Jordan. ~~~~ Masoretic Hebrew Total 4717

+100 numbers of pi (17+22+25+36 = 100)

120) 7898th vs. 1 Samuel 25:36 And Abigail came to Nabal; and, behold, he held a feast in his house, like the feast of a king; and Nabal's Heart was merry within him, for he was very drunken: wherefore she told him nothing, less or more, until The Morning Light. ~~~~ Masoretic Hebrew Total 4717

120) 7898th vs. 1Samuel 25:36 And Abigail came to Nabal; and, behold, he held a feast in his house, like the feast of a king; and Nabal's Heart was merry within him, for he was very drunken: wherefore she told him nothing, less or more, until the Morning Light.

121) 16783rd vs. Proverbs 14:10 The Heart knoweth his own bitterness; and a stranger doth not intermeddle with his joy.

122) 12320th vs. Nehemiah 2:12 And I arose in the Night, I and some few men with me; neither told I any man what my God had put in my Heart to do at Jerusalem: neither was there any beast with me, save the beast that I rode upon.



120) 25:36

121) 14:10

122) 2:12

(36 = 14+10+12)

(12 = 2+10)

(14 = 2+12)

Blind followers... so easily tricked like the sheeple you are. I just need blow flute like pan and you would follow.

Mark 14:51

I don't need to explain myself.

What was this boy doing?

Your disgusting Romans that pervert our children.

If you would circumcise your minds for just once.

He called David.. God's most righteous Dwd a theif. He hated his mother.. violated the temple.. and stole the bread of presence.

Even he said I won't go to hell for calling him out.. even he asked why would they come for a theif with staves and swords..

WHY? Ask the apostles..

To SIN In Hebrew.. is to miss the MARK.. mark wasn't even a listed apostle.

He called ALL of your apostles SATAN.

He raised the dead? Where are they now?
Did they have to die a second time?

He fulfilled NOTHING..

Your fighting Islam.. why? Because they KNEW Abraham? I trust ESAU and ISHMAEL over Julius Caesar any freaking day..

Count the number of the beast.. TARSUS.


Why did Jesus need a naked boy covered in linen to talk to GOD?

Why was he in the temple?

Why did he denounce his mom?

Why did NO one from where he was from including his brothers know him?

Why did all of his apostles die?

Why couldn't he cure SIMON?

Why does his cousin John the Baptist NoT know who he is??

Your only mathematics are STOLEN!

Your tithes? He told you to purchase something for yourself.. he hated churches and shrines and religions of coin. No one had to die for you.. your disgusting damning people to fire. He said he never said that.

You have NOTHING without his children. Listen to your Jesus as you eat that yeast.. your books are testimonials to a crime scene. You don't see it because you have no light in you. Your Jesus came for war.

No your no different than Islam. You defile the name of the HOLY ONE.

You answer why your Jesus had a naked boy with him while he prayed to remove his "cup".. and I will show you how HE.. the HOLY ONE uses bees to drive your asses away. There is nothing new under the SUN.

What the authors wrote only matters if you know who they were...

The difference between Shakespeare and the author of the Gospel of John for example, is that Shakespeare didn't claim that they were historical events, the author of the gospel of John does make that claim.

Then there are other problems with just accepting the "teachings" as they are, they contradict each other...

You HAVE to look deeper if you want to know which account is true, that means looking at the author and trying to figure out if they could have known what they are claiming to know. We can't do that with any of the gospels because we don't know who wrote them, but what we do know suggests that they didn't know what they were talking about...

Paul/Saul, Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, and Lucian allow us the opportunity to look deeper.

Paul is the hardest to dismiss, he wrote most of what is attributed to him and we can confirm that he lived in the right place at the right time, and he would have been in a position to know what he was talking about, i can't call BS on Paul based on what we know about the author... with Paul it comes down to whether you believe him or not.

The rest of the authors of the NT are almost certainly full of shit, do you see the difference?

I will let you keep this.

Davinci Code..

Last supper retards

5 loaves fed 5000
7 loaves fed 4000

3 loaves broken apart left over..

Eat Me...

Marvel on..

The READER UNDERSTANDS.

Your books aren't written by the original apostles.. because they were poisoned.

Big Bear and little bear

The total ignorance of my comments proves again ppl are more interested in perpetuating their existence via the smell of their own shits than seeking something true

Instead of posting this spam shit why don't you just post a link to the movie.

The truth about this place will break them so I prefer not to call out Christians and just work on a solution to send them to their conception of Heaven with or without the Spirit. I mean if they're humans with souls.

"Jesus" is the program of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. It's like the "turn you into Jesus" program. You're not actually supposed to complete it, you're supposed to die and get recycled back into the simulation (they call it "harvest" this is "gang stalking") either in human state or animal state depends on what happens.

lol

Verse?

Common unbelief believes anything else...

Why?

What really is your objection to Jesus Christ?

Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?

Because then you are free to see Him as you want to see Him

as your soul seeks

and that is to Him

or away from Him.

You can see Him and hear Him and read His words

and never really see Him, never really hear Him, and never really know Him or His Word.

He chooses you for Himself or He does not choose you for Himself

as you do what you do for yourself...

You are Free to Believe Him

or you are Free to not believe Him

and to believe anything else you want to believe about Him.

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853)

Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen.
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In examining the evidence of the Christian religion, it is essential to the discovery of truth that we bring to the investigation a mind freed, as far as possible, from existing prejudice, and open to conviction. There should be a readiness, on our part, to investigate with candor to follow the truth wherever it may lead us, and to submit, without reserve or objection, to all the teachings of this religion, if it be found to be of divine origin. "There is no other entrance," says Lord Bacon, "to the kingdom of man, which is founded in the sciences, than to the kingdom of heaven, into which no one can enter but in the character of a little child." The docility which true philosophy requires of her disciples is not a spirit of servility, or the surrender of the reason and judgment to whatsoever the teacher may inculcate; but it is a mind free from all pride of opinion, not hostile to the truth sought for, willing to pursue the inquiry, and impartiality to weigh the arguments and evidence, and to acquiesce in the judgment of right reason. The investigation, moreover, should be pursued with the serious earnestness which becomes the greatness of the subject--a subject fraught with such momentous consequences to man. It should be pursued as in the presence of God, and under the solemn sanctions created by a lively sense of his omniscience, and of our accountability to him for the right use of the faculties which he has bestowed.

In requiring this candor and simplicity of mind in those who would investigate the truth of our religion, Christianity demands nothing more than is readily conceded to every branch of human science. All these have their data, and their axioms; and Christianity, too, has her first principles, the admission of which is essential to any real progress in knowledge. "Christianity," says Bishop Wilson, "inscribes on the portal of her dominion 'Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, shall in nowise enter therein.' Christianity does not profess to convince the perverse and headstrong, to bring irresistible evidence to the daring and profane, to vanquish the proud scorner, and afford evidences from which the careless and perverse cannot possibly escape. This might go to destroy man's responsibility. All that Christianity professes, is to propose such evidences as may satisfy the meek, the tractable, the candid, the serious inquirer."

"The credit due to the testimony of witnesses depends upon, firstly, their honesty; secondly, their ability; thirdly, their number and the consistency of their testimony; fourthly, the conformity of their testimony with experience; and fifthly, the coincidence of their testimony with collateral circumstances.

Let the evangelists be tried by these tests.

And first, as to their honesty. Here they are entitled to the benefit of the general course of human experience, that men ordinarily speak the truth, when they have no prevailing motive or inducement to the contrary. This presumption, to which we have before alluded, is applied in courts of justice, even to witnesses whose integrity is not wholly free from suspicion; much more is it applicable to the evangelists, whose testimony went against all their worldly interests. The great truths which the apostles declared, were that Christ had risen from the dead, and that only through repentance from sin, and faith in him, could men hope for salvation. This doctrine they asserted with one voice, everywhere, not only under the greatest discouragements, but in the face of the most appalling terrors that can be presented to the mind of man. Their master had recently perished as a malefactor, by the sentence of a public tribunal. His religion sought to overthrow the religions of the whole world. The laws of every country were against the teaching of his disciples. The interests and passions of all the rulers and great men in the world were against them. The fashion of the world was against them. Propagating this new faith, even in the most inoffensive and peaceful manner, they could expect nothing but contempt, opposition, revilings, bitter persecutions, stripes imprisonments, torments and cruel deaths. Yet this faith they zealously did propagate; and all these miseries they endured undismayed, nay, rejoicing. As one after another was put to a miserable death, the survivors only prosecuted their work with increased vigor and resolution. The annals of military warfare afford scarcely an example of the like heroic constancy, patience and unblenching courage. They had every possible motive to review carefully the grounds of their faith, and the evidences of the great facts and truths which they asserted; and these motives were pressed upon their attention with the most melancholy and terrific frequency. It was therefore impossible that they could have persisted in affirming the truths they have narrated, had not Jesus actually rose from the dead, and had they not known this fact as certainly as they knew any other fact. If it were morally possible for them to have been deceived in this matter, every human motive operated to lead them to discover and avow their error. To have persisted in so gross a falsehood, after it was known to them, was not only to encounter, for life, all the evils which man could inflict, from without, but to endure also the pangs of inward and conscious guilt; with no hope of future peace, no testimony of a good conscience, no expectation of honor or esteem among men, no hope of happiness in this life, or in the world to come.

Such conduct in the apostles would moreover have been utterly irreconcilable with the fact, that they possessed the ordinary constitution of our common nature. Yet their lives do show them to have been men like all others of our race; swayed by the same motives, animated by the same hopes, affected by the same joys, subdued by the same sorrows, agitated by the same fears, and subject to the same passions, temptations and infirmities, as ourselves. And their writings show them to have been men of vigorous understandings. If then their testimony was not true, there was no possible motive for this fabrication."