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Jesus the solar deity. Sun God, sun in Pisces.Religion Comes From Ancient Astrology and Sun Worship

 
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List of gods born on December 25 (most were "virgin" births)

-Chrishna, of India, born on December 25, 3228 BC
-Mithra, of Persia, born on December 25, before 1500 BC
-Horus, of Egypt, born on December 25, before 2500 BC
-Buddha, of India, born on December 25, 563 BC
-Beddou (Fot), was a god of the orient born 1027 BC
-Quetzalcoatl, a god of the Western Hemisphere, was born of a virgin around 900 BC
-Hercules, son of the god Zeus, born around 500 BC
-Attis, of Phrygia, born around 1200 BC
-Tammuz, born before 2600 BC

Get the picture? Nope I guess it's all just coincidence.

You religiotards are going to be very useful for the elites' final global conflict. Albert Pike was right..
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Hey derpy

jesus wasn't born on December 25th
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Oh look another tard. Let me guess you also go to church on SUNday right?
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Well it's the true. Sorry it doesn't fit with your indoctrination.
Did jesus name the days of the week too?
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Sun Sun Sun Here We Come

sun sun sun sun sun
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Jesus was an historical figure. Even the Israelites do not dispute this fact. He is mentioned in their own texts. (They state that Christ was killed for "sorcery".)

Not one of Jesus' own words, nor those of his disciples, claim that Christ is the sun god. In fact, Christ went well out of his way to condemn such beliefs.

OP, you are drinking in lies, and nothing good comes of that.
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Religion is belief in someone else's experience. Spirituality is having your own experience.

You can believe in a book or ask yourself the answers you seek.
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Well said indeed.
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Jesus was an historical figure. Even the Israelites do not dispute this fact. He is mentioned in their own texts. (They state that Christ was killed for "sorcery".)

Not one of Jesus' own words, nor those of his disciples, claim that Christ is the sun god. In fact, Christ went well out of his way to condemn such beliefs.

OP, you are drinking in lies, and nothing good comes of that.
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that's too far into the book for a super investigator like OP 5a

can someone put up the verse? or keep the thread going longer? deut
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I don't like Christianity either...

BUT those Zeitgeist videos are full of made up BS.

I could give you many, many reasons why the OT and NT are full of shit, but there is no way that Jesus was a solar deity.

We have no idea who any of the NT authors were, they were all anonymous authors who never met Jesus in their life...

All but one, there is one author who really is authentic and that author is the earliest Christian author... Paul.

We know that Paul must of known about the historical Jesus around the year 32 AD, there isn't much proof of anything in the NT, but Paul is proof that Jesus lived (even though he never met Jesus while he was alive), we also have a very good source outside of the bible... Josephus.

Critical scholars of the NT don't agree on many things, but there is a strong consensus that a man called Jesus/Yeshua really did exist.

Even Atheist NT scholars like Bart Ehrman will tell you that there is no debate on this among critical scholars.
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List of gods born on December 25 (most were "virgin" births)

-Chrishna, of India, born on December 25, 3228 BC
-Mithra, of Persia, born on December 25, before 1500 BC
-Horus, of Egypt, born on December 25, before 2500 BC
-Buddha, of India, born on December 25, 563 BC
-Beddou (Fot), was a god of the orient born 1027 BC
-Quetzalcoatl, a god of the Western Hemisphere, was born of a virgin around 900 BC
-Hercules, son of the god Zeus, born around 500 BC
-Attis, of Phrygia, born around 1200 BC
-Tammuz, born before 2600 BC

Get the picture? Nope I guess it's all just coincidence.

You religiotards are going to be very useful for the elites' final global conflict. Albert Pike was right..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Hey derpy

jesus wasn't born on December 25th
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


Oh look another tard. Let me guess you also go to church on SUNday right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Well it's the true. Sorry it doesn't fit with your indoctrination.
Did jesus name the days of the week too?
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As expected you didn't get the question. I even tried to use capitalization to help you.
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
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MAY THE LORD STRIKE DOWN THE SINNERS WHERE THEY STAND!

BURN IN HELL!

AMEN.
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And then we've got clowns like this, who do the work of Satan, but are too stupid to realize it.
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WORSHIP THE LORD, SINNER!!!

Bless the Lord, O my soul!
O Lord my God, you are very great!
You are clothed with splendor and majesty,
covering yourself with light as with a garment,
stretching out the heavens like a tent.
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The lord that you worship is not who you think he is.

You have been sold a pack of lies and falsehoods.

Your bible is really the story of the Annunaki's manipulation of the people of earth.
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The creative and destructive principles in nature are part of a cycle of death and rebirth. Only religions would seek to make one evil and the other good. lol ignorant fools.
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Even Muslims acknowledge Jesus. Just remember, He will deny your existence to the father .
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The Muslim Jesus, Isa, is NOT the same christian Jesus.

Compare the two, and they are totally different. Not the same person at all.
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
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Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
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List of gods born on December 25 (most were "virgin" births)

-Chrishna, of India, born on December 25, 3228 BC
-Mithra, of Persia, born on December 25, before 1500 BC
-Horus, of Egypt, born on December 25, before 2500 BC
-Buddha, of India, born on December 25, 563 BC
-Beddou (Fot), was a god of the orient born 1027 BC
-Quetzalcoatl, a god of the Western Hemisphere, was born of a virgin around 900 BC
-Hercules, son of the god Zeus, born around 500 BC
-Attis, of Phrygia, born around 1200 BC
-Tammuz, born before 2600 BC

Get the picture? Nope I guess it's all just coincidence.

You religiotards are going to be very useful for the elites' final global conflict. Albert Pike was right..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Hey derpy

jesus wasn't born on December 25th
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


Oh look another tard. Let me guess you also go to church on SUNday right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Well it's the true. Sorry it doesn't fit with your indoctrination.
Did jesus name the days of the week too?
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The Bible does NOT say that Jesus was born in December. In fact, just by what it says was going on at the time of his birth, there is NO WAY it was in December.

This December birth was MANMADE doctrine, and is false.
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
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Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
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Look if you want reasons to call Christianity BS, all you have to do is watch a youtube video of Bart Ehrman, he is one of the worlds leading NT scholars and he is Atheist, he does a brilliant job of pointing out all the fuckery and lies.

Your claims of Jesus being a sun god are laughable...

At least get the truth if you want to show Christians up, Zeitgeist is pure BS, it's like trying to get facts about Christianity out of the "Da Vinci code" book.
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You didn't watch the vid and it has nothing to do with the vid you posted. I appreciate comments but only after you have watched vid. Otherwise don't bother.
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Half an hour?! Sum it up in 3 sentences or less, otherwise the internet will have its way with you..
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Debunk Your masonic cult religion sun worship.


...is Jesus.
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The Muslim Jesus is the same Jesus /yawn
The nation of Islam follows all of the Christian apostles and testaments.. they simply have added the Quran.

What is NOT the same.. Christian Islam and the Judaism.

There is a much greater debatable argument that Hinduism is more liken to Judaism.

In fact.. if you actually understood the fundamentals of Judaism.... You would understand what the insight of this post is.

Your Jesus violated every law and covenant with Israel. Yet it claims to hijack their God.

You want everyone to accept this Queen mother and her virgin sun concept yet again that requires human sacrifice..

Once your done washing your hands you can get out your holy book. Even his mother said he was crazy. Guess she had the Mandela effect.
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The Muslim Jesus is the same Jesus /yawn
The nation of Islam follows all of the Christian apostles and testaments.. they simply have added the Quran.

What is NOT the same.. Christian Islam and the Judaism.

There is a much greater debatable argument that Hinduism is more liken to Judaism.

In fact.. if you actually understood the fundamentals of Judaism.... You would understand what the insight of this post is.

Your Jesus violated every law and covenant with Israel. Yet it claims to hijack their God.

You want everyone to accept this Queen mother and her virgin sun concept yet again that requires human sacrifice..

Once your done washing your hands you can get out your holy book. Even his mother said he was crazy. Guess she had the Mandela effect.
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Blah blah blah, sum up OPs video in 3 sentences or less..
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Hey derpy

jesus wasn't born on December 25th
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Oh look another tard. Let me guess you also go to church on SUNday right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Well it's the true. Sorry it doesn't fit with your indoctrination.
Did jesus name the days of the week too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217



The Bible does NOT say that Jesus was born in December. In fact, just by what it says was going on at the time of his birth, there is NO WAY it was in December.

This December birth was MANMADE doctrine, and is false.
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Never said he was.. ive known that was bullshit for... 20 years now? maybe more
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
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Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
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I don't celebrate the sun god

Where do you get this bs from?
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Look if you want reasons to call Christianity BS, all you have to do is watch a youtube video of Bart Ehrman, he is one of the worlds leading NT scholars and he is Atheist, he does a brilliant job of pointing out all the fuckery and lies.

Your claims of Jesus being a sun god are laughable...

At least get the truth if you want to show Christians up, Zeitgeist is pure BS, it's like trying to get facts about Christianity out of the "Da Vinci code" book.
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No no, atheism is equally wrong. It's as much an act of faith as theism. An atheist asserts there IS no god, which is just as equally impossible to prove as the existence of God. The best any intelligent person can claim in "agnosticism". It's impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God.
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Look if you want reasons to call Christianity BS, all you have to do is watch a youtube video of Bart Ehrman, he is one of the worlds leading NT scholars and he is Atheist, he does a brilliant job of pointing out all the fuckery and lies.

Your claims of Jesus being a sun god are laughable...

At least get the truth if you want to show Christians up, Zeitgeist is pure BS, it's like trying to get facts about Christianity out of the "Da Vinci code" book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74537662


No no, atheism is equally wrong. It's as much an act of faith as theism. An atheist asserts there IS no god, which is just as equally impossible to prove as the existence of God. The best any intelligent person can claim in "agnosticism". It's impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God.
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No that is BS, how many people have you ever met that are Agnostic about Zeus?
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Religion is belief in someone else's experience. Spirituality is having your own experience.

You can believe in a book or ask yourself the answers you seek.
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norespect Nice!
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
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I don't celebrate the sun god

Where do you get this bs from?
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So investigate for yourself why you go to church on Sunday. Or just put your head back in the sand. I don't care either way.
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who would you worship if you would worship?

the sun dummies

without the sun there is no life in the universe

people now worship saturn

they worship a pussy
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Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Look if you want reasons to call Christianity BS, all you have to do is watch a youtube video of Bart Ehrman, he is one of the worlds leading NT scholars and he is Atheist, he does a brilliant job of pointing out all the fuckery and lies.

Your claims of Jesus being a sun god are laughable...

At least get the truth if you want to show Christians up, Zeitgeist is pure BS, it's like trying to get facts about Christianity out of the "Da Vinci code" book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74537662


No no, atheism is equally wrong. It's as much an act of faith as theism. An atheist asserts there IS no god, which is just as equally impossible to prove as the existence of God. The best any intelligent person can claim in "agnosticism". It's impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God.
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No that is BS, how many people have you ever met that are Agnostic about Zeus?
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I don't think you know what the definition of "agnosticism" is.
Agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
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Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14102964


Look if you want reasons to call Christianity BS, all you have to do is watch a youtube video of Bart Ehrman, he is one of the worlds leading NT scholars and he is Atheist, he does a brilliant job of pointing out all the fuckery and lies.

Your claims of Jesus being a sun god are laughable...

At least get the truth if you want to show Christians up, Zeitgeist is pure BS, it's like trying to get facts about Christianity out of the "Da Vinci code" book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74537662


No no, atheism is equally wrong. It's as much an act of faith as theism. An atheist asserts there IS no god, which is just as equally impossible to prove as the existence of God. The best any intelligent person can claim in "agnosticism". It's impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God.
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No that is BS, how many people have you ever met that are Agnostic about Zeus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74537662


anyway... Bart Ehrman started as an Evangelical (he believed that the bible was the infallible word of God), after studying the NT for over 30 years he is now Atheist.

He can tear through all the Christian BS beautifully but even he laughs at people claiming that Jesus never existed or that Jesus was a sun deity.
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Ok I get it, you think sun= son

yawn
hooray for engrish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


Ha you still don't get it! SUNday is the day you celebrate your sun god. Get it now? Why do you think the historically Saturday sabbath was moved to the pagan SUNday? Have you ever read the book you supposedly believe in called the Bible? It clearly states the Sabbath is Saturday not SUNday. You are a pagan in reality believing in the state religion of the Roman Empire.
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I don't celebrate the sun god

Where do you get this bs from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74545217


So investigate for yourself why you go to church on Sunday. Or just put your head back in the sand. I don't care either way.
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I do? If you don't care, shut the fuck up chuckle

I know, you're trying to validate your beliefs. Its ok,.
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People have controlled and manipulated by religion for far to long. Time for the truth to come out.
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[link to heliofant.com]
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Jesus Christ came to end/replace Baal (sun/son of El) worship.
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Baal was an apostasy of Bel, the Blessed Mother
Mary. That was propaganda against our Virgin
Mary.
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Bella Aqua
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Look if you want reasons to call Christianity BS, all you have to do is watch a youtube video of Bart Ehrman, he is one of the worlds leading NT scholars and he is Atheist, he does a brilliant job of pointing out all the fuckery and lies.

Your claims of Jesus being a sun god are laughable...

At least get the truth if you want to show Christians up, Zeitgeist is pure BS, it's like trying to get facts about Christianity out of the "Da Vinci code" book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74537662


No no, atheism is equally wrong. It's as much an act of faith as theism. An atheist asserts there IS no god, which is just as equally impossible to prove as the existence of God. The best any intelligent person can claim in "agnosticism". It's impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God.
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No that is BS, how many people have you ever met that are Agnostic about Zeus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74537662


I don't think you know what the definition of "agnosticism" is.
Agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
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LOL i know what it means...

so you are trying to say that it is possible that Zeus is a real God? it's un-knowable?

what about the Zenu of the Scientologists?

are you also not sure about that god?

lol so you are not willing to call BS on any deity, no matter how stupid the claim is?





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