3 out of 3! Each time Bitcoin reaches parity with Gold, it fails. Here's why! | |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/10/2017 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand why it's being viewed on parity with an OZ of Gold. Why not as a Gold Kilo Bar, or even the full 400oz bar size? Quoting: gcxd 1786840 In reality, nothing is more valuable than physical Gold! But this reality is controlled by the Deep State. The Paper Gold price, keeps the physical Gold price way below its real value. And so what is the real value of Gold. The Debt Clock says; $7,768.00 per ounce. See for yourself, in the lower right hand corner; [link to www.usdebtclock.org] Last Edited by ~ Prof. on 03/10/2017 10:38 PM Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/10/2017 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: bigD111 Bitcoins are in a limited supply, the Chinese love the idea of a transferable currency, and Bitcoin will survive today and grow stronger in the future. Alternative currencies such as Bitcoin, Dash and even Litecoin are the future of money! There is some talk about a National or Federal coin being created to challenge Bitcoin, because Cash, as we know it, is becoming a collectors item. Last Edited by ~ Prof. on 03/10/2017 10:58 PM Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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User ID: 65945302 United States 03/10/2017 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: bigD111 Bitcoins are in a limited supply, the Chinese love the idea of a transferable currency, and Bitcoin will survive today and grow stronger in the future. Alternative currencies such as Bitcoin, Dash and even Litecoin are the future of money! There is some talk about a National or Federal coin being created to challenge Bitcoin, because Cash, as we know it, is becoming a collectors item. It has, there is no denying it! I own land and run an ag enterprise, I have a hard time making money. I am very diversified, yet, it is a struggle. It is very difficult for me to look at an asset that is on paper only, that could have any value! deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74348621 United States 03/10/2017 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, the current value of Bitcoin, after this latest pull back is $18,442,807,078. The value before the pull back was well over $20 Billion Dollars. Money in a jar, or a bank account brings you nothing. Quoting: EFFING DEPLORABLE! You gotta get involved! Digital currency is here to stay. The question is, are your digits making you digits or are you working harder and harder to create digits?! There are a limited number of bitcoins that can ever be made. Fail. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/10/2017 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, the current value of Bitcoin, after this latest pull back is $18,442,807,078. The value before the pull back was well over $20 Billion Dollars. Money in a jar, or a bank account brings you nothing. Quoting: EFFING DEPLORABLE! You gotta get involved! Digital currency is here to stay. The question is, are your digits making you digits or are you working harder and harder to create digits?! There are a limited number of bitcoins that can ever be made. Fail. 21 Million Bitcoins is the maximum. 16,208,687 Million Bitcoins are in the Circulating Supply right now at a value of $1150.00 each. Alt-Coins are in our future! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74375830 United States 03/10/2017 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3 out of 3 times, when Bitcoin neared, or reached parity with Gold, Bitcoin failed to make the leap! Consider Bitcoin when reviewing this statement by Mr. Greenspan. Quoting: EFFING DEPLORABLE! Here's an excerpt from his book "Gold and Economic Freedom": "In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold." Now look at what happened with the Exchange Traded Funds deal today. Bitcoin was at $1292.00 and fell to $999.99, in an instant, upon the announcement of the rejection of the EFT deal, by the powers that be! Is the price of Bitcoin set by a conspiracy or what!? Here is a great Bitcoin/ETF rant... U got to be crazy to buy bitcoin up here!!! Buy gold or silver or ethereum for the price levels Btc is toast Even china might outlaw it |
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User ID: 73775755 United States 03/10/2017 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has, there is no denying it! I own land and run an ag enterprise, I have a hard time making money. I am very diversified, yet, it is a struggle. It is very difficult for me to look at an asset that is on paper only, that could have any value! Quoting: bigD111 Comes a time when people realize you can't eat gold! Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
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Gcxc User ID: 1786840 United States 03/11/2017 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, the current value of Bitcoin, after this latest pull back is $18,442,807,078. The value before the pull back was well over $20 Billion Dollars. Money in a jar, or a bank account brings you nothing. Quoting: EFFING DEPLORABLE! You gotta get involved! Digital currency is here to stay. The question is, are your digits making you digits or are you working harder and harder to create digits?! There are a limited number of bitcoins that can ever be made. Fail. 21 Million Bitcoins is the maximum. 16,208,687 Million Bitcoins are in the Circulating Supply right now at a value of $1150.00 each. Alt-Coins are in our future! How many of those coins are 'lost' due to wallets failing or being forgotten? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69198262 United States 03/11/2017 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets go back to what value is, shall we? Value = what someone will pay for said item. Said item can be anything. Say someone produced an Elvis stool. What would that be worth to you? I wouldn't pay for a turd. But to an Elvis collector it would be the Holy Grail. So he would pay a LOT. It's all perspective. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by ~ Prof. on 03/11/2017 12:34 AM Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets go back to what value is, shall we? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69198262 Value = what someone will pay for said item. Said item can be anything. Say someone produced an Elvis stool. What would that be worth to you? I wouldn't pay for a turd. But to an Elvis collector it would be the Holy Grail. So he would pay a LOT. It's all perspective. Today's perspective equals $18+ Billion in U.S. Dollars! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by ~ Prof. on 03/11/2017 12:36 AM Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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User ID: 68730242 United States 03/11/2017 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has perceived value by its acceptance of online markets. People pay money into bitcoin which gives it the perceived value. Bitcoin also being outside of the central banking system it isn't taxable, this is why china and japan have jumped on board over the last year leading to its dramatic rise in value. But like the stock market bitcoin can be hyper traded and so you see dramatic swings in it's value. Also as it rises people pull there profits out of bitcoin so when it gets to a high it drops as they pull their profits, then they let it rebuild. If the dollar/credit system ever dies, you won't be able to email gold or silver, so this another reason people like bitcoin it's the likely future of internet money. Quoting: Dredrum If the economic system fails, there won't be any internet. Your best bet is: gold, silver, food, ammo, and vice items (alcohol and tobacco) That's right! I've been stockpiling booze for years now. I'm up to one bottle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74385005 United States 03/11/2017 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has perceived value by its acceptance of online markets. People pay money into bitcoin which gives it the perceived value. Bitcoin also being outside of the central banking system it isn't taxable, this is why china and japan have jumped on board over the last year leading to its dramatic rise in value. But like the stock market bitcoin can be hyper traded and so you see dramatic swings in it's value. Also as it rises people pull there profits out of bitcoin so when it gets to a high it drops as they pull their profits, then they let it rebuild. If the dollar/credit system ever dies, you won't be able to email gold or silver, so this another reason people like bitcoin it's the likely future of internet money. Quoting: Dredrum What a con job all that shit is. You'd have to be a true moron like in Idiocracy to buy into it. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, the current value of Bitcoin, after this latest pull back is $18,442,807,078. The value before the pull back was well over $20 Billion Dollars. Money in a jar, or a bank account brings you nothing. Quoting: EFFING DEPLORABLE! You gotta get involved! Digital currency is here to stay. The question is, are your digits making you digits or are you working harder and harder to create digits?! There are a limited number of bitcoins that can ever be made. Fail. 21 Million Bitcoins is the maximum. 16,208,687 Million Bitcoins are in the Circulating Supply right now at a value of $1150.00 each. Alt-Coins are in our future! How many of those coins are 'lost' due to wallets failing or being forgotten? Honestly, I figure at least 3 Million coins are "lost", since 2010! A guy posted a video about losing 4K in Bitcoin with one accidental, unrecoverable button push, this week, on youtube! When Bitcoins were first traded, they had almost no value, $2-$8. each! When someone dies, if their family don't know what to look for, they will never know about the lost Bitcoins. Of course, I am guessing! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73533979 United States 03/11/2017 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has perceived value by its acceptance of online markets. People pay money into bitcoin which gives it the perceived value. Bitcoin also being outside of the central banking system it isn't taxable, this is why china and japan have jumped on board over the last year leading to its dramatic rise in value. But like the stock market bitcoin can be hyper traded and so you see dramatic swings in it's value. Also as it rises people pull there profits out of bitcoin so when it gets to a high it drops as they pull their profits, then they let it rebuild. If the dollar/credit system ever dies, you won't be able to email gold or silver, so this another reason people like bitcoin it's the likely future of internet money. Quoting: Dredrum What a con job all that shit is. You'd have to be a true moron like in Idiocracy to buy into it. You'd have to be a complete dumb-ass to not be. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74412270 United States 03/11/2017 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except for some intrinsic value that the ordinary person doesn't use, gold has zero value, practically speaking. When you get right down to it, labor is the only thing that has value. That is what brought Germany out of the Great Depression. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73533979 United States 03/11/2017 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has value. Shit tons more than fiat boys and girls. Even more than Gold. Most people don't understand it and like everything else its all emotional. Why is bitcoin more valuable than fiat? Fiat is limitless and printed by governments willy-nilly. It's printed on nearly worthless paper or fake coins (zinc vs copper pennies). There is no end to the supply and the only value it has is 100% perceptual dependent upon the common perception of the world markets, but it's true value is negative given the continual printing and exponential debt to actual money. Bitcoin on the other hand is finite and actually quite scarce. This element of bitcoin is similar to Gold - however gold is also infinite in supply just simply harder to obtain through finding or yes manufacturing with science. Eventually gold will be mined on other interstellar objects such as the moon, mars, and asteroids. Bitcoin however will run out and never another made after 21 million are minted. You wont find new ones on the mars or moon. It is 100% finite given the integrated functional math. Thus it has inherent true scarcity, even more-so than gold and well its obvious that fiat is anything but scarce. Fiat is way too loose. Now another thing that people just don't understand is the tremendous value in the hardware used to actually support the bitcoin network and the energy used to do so. There is millions if not billions of dollars being invested into the bitcoin network, applications, hardware and businesses that drive value into the digital currency. It costs the governments very little to just spit out new coins - while every newly minted bitcoin costs a lot of money just to create factoring in hardware and electricity costs. This cost also drives value into the coin. The greatest value of all is that the coin represents FREEDOM to each and every individual on the planet. They are free to essentially be their own bank and to be their own stock broker free of the control imposed by those that run the world markets that are in collusion with world governments. Digital currencies are the safe haven for the average Joe, everyman. Of course the value will fluctuate - but over time it will simply continue to grow as the populace becomes more awakened to the fact that they no longer need to be under the wing of the bankers and that as more individuals own parts of the coin the higher the value vs fiat becomes. The returns are far greater than any other market - at least for the past 2 years straight and as scarcity increases so will this continued growth. |
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User ID: 72367877 United States 03/11/2017 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has value. Shit tons more than fiat boys and girls. Even more than Gold. Most people don't understand it and like everything else its all emotional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73533979 Why is bitcoin more valuable than fiat? Fiat is limitless and printed by governments willy-nilly. It's printed on nearly worthless paper or fake coins (zinc vs copper pennies). There is no end to the supply and the only value it has is 100% perceptual dependent upon the common perception of the world markets, but it's true value is negative given the continual printing and exponential debt to actual money. Bitcoin on the other hand is finite and actually quite scarce. This element of bitcoin is similar to Gold - however gold is also infinite in supply just simply harder to obtain through finding or yes manufacturing with science. Eventually gold will be mined on other interstellar objects such as the moon, mars, and asteroids. Bitcoin however will run out and never another made after 21 million are minted. You wont find new ones on the mars or moon. It is 100% finite given the integrated functional math. Thus it has inherent true scarcity, even more-so than gold and well its obvious that fiat is anything but scarce. Fiat is way too loose. Now another thing that people just don't understand is the tremendous value in the hardware used to actually support the bitcoin network and the energy used to do so. There is millions if not billions of dollars being invested into the bitcoin network, applications, hardware and businesses that drive value into the digital currency. It costs the governments very little to just spit out new coins - while every newly minted bitcoin costs a lot of money just to create factoring in hardware and electricity costs. This cost also drives value into the coin. The greatest value of all is that the coin represents FREEDOM to each and every individual on the planet. They are free to essentially be their own bank and to be their own stock broker free of the control imposed by those that run the world markets that are in collusion with world governments. Digital currencies are the safe haven for the average Joe, everyman. Of course the value will fluctuate - but over time it will simply continue to grow as the populace becomes more awakened to the fact that they no longer need to be under the wing of the bankers and that as more individuals own parts of the coin the higher the value vs fiat becomes. The returns are far greater than any other market - at least for the past 2 years straight and as scarcity increases so will this continued growth. Beautiful explanation You said "Of course the value will fluctuate - but over time it will simply continue to grow as the populace becomes more awakened" I'll add to that; it will continue to grow AND stabilize. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has value. Shit tons more than fiat boys and girls. Even more than Gold. Most people don't understand it and like everything else its all emotional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73533979 Why is bitcoin more valuable than fiat? Fiat is limitless and printed by governments willy-nilly. It's printed on nearly worthless paper or fake coins (zinc vs copper pennies). There is no end to the supply and the only value it has is 100% perceptual dependent upon the common perception of the world markets, but it's true value is negative given the continual printing and exponential debt to actual money. Bitcoin on the other hand is finite and actually quite scarce. This element of bitcoin is similar to Gold - however gold is also infinite in supply just simply harder to obtain through finding or yes manufacturing with science. Eventually gold will be mined on other interstellar objects such as the moon, mars, and asteroids. Bitcoin however will run out and never another made after 21 million are minted. You wont find new ones on the mars or moon. It is 100% finite given the integrated functional math. Thus it has inherent true scarcity, even more-so than gold and well its obvious that fiat is anything but scarce. Fiat is way too loose. Now another thing that people just don't understand is the tremendous value in the hardware used to actually support the bitcoin network and the energy used to do so. There is millions if not billions of dollars being invested into the bitcoin network, applications, hardware and businesses that drive value into the digital currency. It costs the governments very little to just spit out new coins - while every newly minted bitcoin costs a lot of money just to create factoring in hardware and electricity costs. This cost also drives value into the coin. The greatest value of all is that the coin represents FREEDOM to each and every individual on the planet. They are free to essentially be their own bank and to be their own stock broker free of the control imposed by those that run the world markets that are in collusion with world governments. Digital currencies are the safe haven for the average Joe, everyman. Of course the value will fluctuate - but over time it will simply continue to grow as the populace becomes more awakened to the fact that they no longer need to be under the wing of the bankers and that as more individuals own parts of the coin the higher the value vs fiat becomes. The returns are far greater than any other market - at least for the past 2 years straight and as scarcity increases so will this continued growth. Beautiful explanation You said "Of course the value will fluctuate - but over time it will simply continue to grow as the populace becomes more awakened" I'll add to that; it will continue to grow AND stabilize. Both of you guys are correct and AWESOME! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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User ID: 72367877 United States 03/11/2017 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin has perceived value by its acceptance of online markets. People pay money into bitcoin which gives it the perceived value. Bitcoin also being outside of the central banking system it isn't taxable, this is why china and japan have jumped on board over the last year leading to its dramatic rise in value. But like the stock market bitcoin can be hyper traded and so you see dramatic swings in it's value. Also as it rises people pull there profits out of bitcoin so when it gets to a high it drops as they pull their profits, then they let it rebuild. If the dollar/credit system ever dies, you won't be able to email gold or silver, so this another reason people like bitcoin it's the likely future of internet money. Quoting: Dredrum Relies 100% on internet = doomed to failure. That would be my opinion! If the doom you're thinking about is ever encountered, internet will be one of or the first restored functions after the essentials and order. Plus, you don't even necessarily need full-spectrum wwww access to use bitcoin, if you are among/around enough computers with the blockchain, and at least some of them are also connected elsewhere. That's the beauty of the bitcoin network, it is one entity confirmed by thousands upon thousands of individual nodes spread over the globe, spread all over your very own communities and elsewhere. These are not the dooms you're looking for. Last Edited by Rest on 03/11/2017 06:10 AM For my yoke is easy and my burden is light |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're suggesting there's some sort of mathematical correlation? E.g 21 million ounces of gold to 21 million btc (1:1)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73044536 I'd like to see your research. I am not suggesting that, you are. I am saying, that each time Bitcoin reaches parity with Gold, the price gets knocked down. Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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User ID: 72367877 United States 03/11/2017 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're suggesting there's some sort of mathematical correlation? E.g 21 million ounces of gold to 21 million btc (1:1)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73044536 I'd like to see your research. I am not suggesting that, you are. I am saying, that each time Bitcoin reaches parity with Gold, the price gets knocked down. It has been so historically, but this last time it passed ppo of gold for quite some time. Definitely something to note, but it should also be understood; the value "one ounce of gold" is entirely arbitrary in regards to bitcoin, as we have no notion of how much gold there is in the universe, and so no notion of what one ounce of gold is relative to itself. We do however know the value of 1 bitcoin, as it is precisely 1/21,000,000th of whatever value is added to the bitcoin network wealth prior to calculation. Last Edited by Rest on 03/11/2017 06:32 AM For my yoke is easy and my burden is light |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74416997 Seychelles 03/11/2017 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin won't last and I will tell you why.. The Rothschilds don't control it. They only let something un-taxable go on for so long to see its effects and how it works. They will force your politicians to make it illegal to own bitcoin eventually. Right around the time they launch Fitcoin. The federal international trading coin.. Controlled 100% and taxed by Rothschild. If your holding bitcoin, you can equate that to holding a lit stick of dynamite.. Its just a matter of time before it blows. Unless you see the rothschild collapsing soon and losing their monopoly on central banking currencies? I don't see them letting bitcoin go on much longer.. This is evident by the rejection of it on the Etf. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin won't last and I will tell you why.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74416997 The Rothschilds don't control it. They only let something un-taxable go on for so long to see its effects and how it works. They will force your politicians to make it illegal to own bitcoin eventually. Right around the time they launch Fitcoin. The federal international trading coin.. Controlled 100% and taxed by Rothschild. If your holding bitcoin, you can equate that to holding a lit stick of dynamite.. Its just a matter of time before it blows. Unless you see the rothschild collapsing soon and losing their monopoly on central banking currencies? I don't see them letting bitcoin go on much longer.. This is evident by the rejection of it on the Etf. The Banksters do not like Bitcoin, but they do like the Blockchain! And I am saying, that the Banksters are somehow crushing Bitcoin at the Gold parity price, until they can create and control their own Alt-Coin. Is Dash their coin?! . Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 03/11/2017 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by ~ Prof. on 03/11/2017 07:12 AM Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |