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Message Subject Moon HOAX CONSPIRACY - LEM HATCH TOO SMALL! BEST DOCUMENTARY IS 1 OF OLDEST DOCUMENTARIES
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I WATCHED the moon "mission" with my brothers, father & mother, LIVE on TV in July of 1969. We were all passed out in our den when my dad woke us up near 4am to tell us to watch as Neil Armstrong (allegedly) took the first steps. There was no one in the world MORE PROUD than myself & my family & nearly every family in America also watching. I wrote NASA a letter asking for the 'Moon Photos' they provided for free to school children (plus p&h, naturally). I hung those photo posters all over my room, alongside my National Geographic full Blow-Up posters of the moon and the maps of the moon. There is NO ONE ON EARTH WHO DRANK THE KOOLAID ON THIS STORY MORE THAN ME. So please, no that it took MANY MANY YEARS for my to buy "that B.S. that we did not go to the Moon", as i would snap at every single conspiracy theorist who came down the pike....UNTIL I started to do my own, independent reasearch, as you all should do, especially those WHO NEVER QUESTION THE OFFICIAL STORY. Let me ask you this... WHAT ARE THE PROBABLITIES OF NASA JUST HAPPENING TO LOSE ALL THE VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM THE APOLLO 11 MISSION? That is what they are telling people for decades now... THEY LOST ALL THE FRIGGIN FOOTAGE. Ok, if that is credible, what if they told you they just HAPPENED TO LOSE ALL OF THE FRIGGIN SCHEMATICS FOR THE L.E.M. spacecraft, the moon lander? Starting to sound funny? What about the moon rocks which were tested and were found to be ALL FROM EARTH?


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4am? Armstrong took his first steps at 2:56 UTC which would be 10:56 pm Eastern or as early as 7:56 pm on the west coast. So you started your story with a lie.

It is also a lie that all the footage from Apollo 11 is lost. We have copies of all the footage and all that is lost is the original video piggybacked on the telemetry tapes from the EVAs only. That is likely because the tapes were written over when Memorex had a tape shortage in the 70's and NASA was then faced with the choice of reusing tapes they had copies of or not collecting data from ongoing missions and probes.

The schematics for the LM are not lost either. NASA does not own them as they didn't build it. Grumman has the schematics.

No rocks have been found to be from Earth. On the contrary they have been found to have been formed in low gravity, exposed to millions of years of cosmic rays, and have never been in contact with liquid water. Perhaps you're thinking of the rock in the netherlands? It was not given by NASA. NASA didn't give out any rocks at all in 1969. At best it was given by the US ambassador to the former prime minister. But even that can't be proven. All that is known for sure is it was found in his estate after his death and his family ASSUMED it was a Moon rock.

LOL at Collier claiming they couldn't fit through the LM hatch when there are pics and videos showing them doing just that.

Apollo's path DID take them around the thickest parts of the belts. The recent NASA video is specifically talking about testing the electronics of the new craft which are more sensitive than Apollo's. The path around the belts is also not available for interplanetary trips.


Funny how NASA claims the Van Allen Belts were not a problem for the Apollo astronauts IN 1969-72 -- they went through them about 7 times. Yet as recently as 2012, NASA spent a millions of dollars to build & send a probe to study the Van Allen Belts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62070845

There were 9 trips there and back. And again, their trajectory took them around the thickest parts of the belts. But thanks for proving that hoaxies know the least about the subject.




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799

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I grew up on Mather AFB in Sacramento, about 2 miles away where McDonnell Douglas built and static tested the Saturn V third stage engines. I remember feeling the ground shake when they fired those engines and this was the third stage, not first stage of Saturn V rocket. Then they'd transport it across to the flight line at Mather AFB and load it into a "Super Guppy" plane for its flight to Cape Canaveral.

Another 5 miles away was Aerojet, where they manufactured the LEM and Command Module thrusters.

Afters I graduated in the mid 1980's, I worked with some Aerospace Engineers and Technicians who previously worked at both of those facilities. All of them were proud of what they achieved as a team and what we achieved as a nation.

Anyone who believes the Apollo moon landings were faked are the same type of people who believe the Earth is flat.

On a side note, I heard rumors of a secret underground facility at this same McDonnell Douglas facility. So I asked one of the Engineers who worked there about it. He told me that certain areas of the facility were off-limits to him (he had TS clearance). Him and co-worker were walking during lunchtime one day and accidentally wandered into one of the off-limits areas. He saw ventilation pipes sticking out of the ground. When he got back, he was called to his managers office, where he was verbally reprimanded him. Then his manager did something that really freaked him out. The manager told him about the conversation that him and his coworker were discussing. He said there was no one else around but him and his coworker.

Since this facility was above his TS clearance, it was rumored to have been staffed for developing black budgeted space program technologies. Ring any bells (Solar Warden)?

Edit: Watched the video. Note the astronaut aboard the ISS said, "We can't go beyond 230 miles" in PRESENT TENSE. In other words, we don't currently have the capability to place crewed flights beyond that limit. That is what ORION project will accomplish. To get crewed flights beyond low earth orbit once again. This includes the Earth's moon, asteroids or Mars.
 
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